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Ford Mustang (2004 and earlier)



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  • john324,

    u mentioned to clean the convertible top with a good carwash solution... do you use any conditioner on your top? to protect it from the sun?

    my top started to peel a little.. i dont know if i could bring it somewhere and get it fixed... =(
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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 57,815
    I'd sell it in a red hot minute for $45,000. Take the money and RUN. You'll never see another offer like that, if it's serious. That's way over market value for the car IMO, regardless of mileage. It's probably worth about $15K-20K tops if it's in fantastic shape (but don't tell the buyer that--LOL!) You must remember that they made a huge number of these cars in 1965 and that the coupe was the cheapest and most common of the models.

    "California car" really doesn't make any sense if it's a RHD automobile.

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  • thanks for the advice. this reference to a 'california car' is a bit of a mystery but is hardly a influencing factor when seeking insurance.
    we have taken your advice and will not convert the brakes to disc or convert it to RHD. the car was purchased new overseas and shipped into australia at the end of one of dad's tour's. i guess he saw the investment value in it as well. the plasic used to cover the car in transit was neatly folded up in the boot and still displays the shipping notes on it. he never could throw anything away! the original purchase docket was stapled to a mustang brochure we found in his box of special papers in his office.
    it seems that dad must have opted for the pony interior.
    i think the US$45K price offered reflects the fact that the car comes with it's original rubber and rims. dad put the original tyres and rims in the corner of the shed and used falcon rims and tyres for the 6500 miles it travelled. it also comes with it's original number plates (no longer available). the other attraction might be that it was owned by an aussie music legend.
    the price of mustangs in australia is rediculous. to get a fastback in concours condition would be about US$35K and in some aussie states they are dificult to register for road use unless converted to RHD and that costs another US$5K.
    once again thanks for the advice. hope to be in the states again next year for your MTV awards.
    cheers Noddy. I like that name I might keep it!
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 57,815
    Yes but a fastback is a more valuable car, at least 50%, perhaps 100% with the right equipment. So that puts a concours '65 coupe right where I said, more or less.

    I realize you have great sentimental attachment to the car and may not wish to sell, but if that $45K USD offer is real, you are never going to see it again until maybe the year think it over! You may be walking away from $30,000 "extra" dollars.

    Oh, I see. The car is LHD, so "california car" is probably the usual remark made about cars that came from California, where the climate is generallyl quite benign. It implies that the car isn't rusted. In terms of value, I don't think it means anything but it may re-assure a buyer who worries about cars coming from the US "rust belt".

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  • rorrrorr Posts: 3,630
    I know that here in the US, a concours '65 coupe would be a $15k - $20k car, but since these cars are (relatively) rare in Australia, I wonder just what the market is there? Maybe not $45k, but I would imagine that it should certainly be higher than here.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Sonoma, CaliforniaPosts: 57,815
    There really isn't an "Australian" market or a "European" market anymore, mostly due to the Internet, incredibly efficient shipping, etc.

    Besides, it's just a Mustang coupe, it's not a rare car, and it's LHD in a RHD country. What's interesting about it is the low miles and originality, which is good, but not 5 or 6 times market price.

    Shoot, you could buy a decent Shelby 350GT for $45K!

    I'm telling ya', if he wants to sell he should grab that $45K so fast it would be a blur in the buyer's hands.

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  • mlmmlm Posts: 2
    I currently have a 05 GT on order, it was ordered back on June 4th. The dealership reports that the status shows the car build and released to convoy for over two weeks. I have heard two stories; one is that there was a problem with the V-8s and they had to hold them up; the other is that some dealers are receiving the GT V-8s. So which is correct?
  • john_324john_324 Posts: 974
    There seem to be a few GTs out there at least....stangnet is abuzz with stories of them, inc. one by a dealership tech about 2 guys arguing who was going to buy the only one the dealership had in stock... :-)
  • tacoboytacoboy Posts: 25
    Anybody driven a new 05 V6 yet? I'm a Honda convert waiting for something American to convince me to trade in my Si. My biggest fear is that the new Mustang , with all it's great looks , will still handle "big".
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 8,030
    It IS a big car, compared to some of the imports at least. But all the reports seem to say it's very light on it's feet and handles great for a car of it's size.

    The only way for you to really know if it meets your requirements is to drive one.
  • john_324john_324 Posts: 974
    I doubt it'll handle as well as or be as nimble as your comparably priced car of the Mustang's size really could. But torque is another story entirely; might be worth the tradeoff... ;-)

    But the new chassis is reportedly quite good, and light years ahead of the '78 Ford Fairmont chassis that's been used up until now. I'd expect the V6 Mustangs to feel more agile than the GTs though, due to the weight difference (that's how they feel now). Still a live rear axle, so that's not really going to help handling any...
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 8,030
    They put a lot of effort into that solid rear axle - it's more like an aftermarket design than a regular OEM design. Testers have actually praised it rather than complained about it. Don't be surprised if it handles as good as some other IRS setups.
  • john_324john_324 Posts: 974
    Well, that would be cool...people always complain about it. I personally enjoy the retro flavor it brings the car, but I've defintely felt the performance limitations of the current set-up on the track.

    Be a pretty neat trick if Ford were able to save money, provide performance durability *and* decent handling, all at the same time.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 8,030
    The only ones I've heard complain about it are the ones who haven't driven it yet. These are the same people who complain about the Corvette's pushrod engine or front strut suspensions. Look at the handling statistics and test drive impressions and that will tell you everything you need to know.
  • Gold101Gold101 Posts: 22

    Today I took the new 2005 V6 Mustang Coupe for a test drive.... I loved it!

    The handling was quite good(not quite as nimble as my RSX, but YEARS ahead of the prior model), and the steering offered up excellent feel and precision. The ride was also surprisngly compliant, and I was very surprised at the lack of wind noise/road noise... Overall, a refined package.

    The engine sounded a bit coarse when pushed, but the torque and power was very good... Obviously, the GT is faster, but I feel that one could get the V6 and be very pleased with the power.

    The interior was really nice as well, though I didn't particularly care for the plastic material used for the HVAC/Radio controls. The seats had very good lateral support, and I liked the driving position very much.

    Overall, an excellent car at an excellent price.
  • barjonbarjon Posts: 27
    Last week I noticed a dealer nearby had a base V6 2005 in the showroom, so, out of curiosity, I stopped in for a look. At 6'4" tall, I was very surprised at how much head and legroom there was, and how comfortable I felt behind the wheel. I was hooked!

    An online inventory search found a car in the color combination I like best (Sonic Blue with Dark Charcoal leather) with all the options...except for the factory-installed alarm another dealer where I previously purchased 2 Tauruses. I took a ride over this morning and found out the car hasn't yet arrived, but is expected any day. In fact, it'll be their first and only 2005 Mustang to come in this month. Sight unseen, I put down a deposit on it! The deal is pending my test drive of the car.

    As a loyal customer, the best they could do for me on price is sticker price due to the current supply and demand situation. I asked if they would install an alarm system at no charge. The answer to that was NO, but said they'd take $100 off their regular price and install the alarm for $249.

    I realize I'll be paying for the prestige of being one of the first guys in town driving a 2005 Mustang. Does that sound reasonable?
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 8,030
    If you really want it and you can't wait - sure, it's a reasonable price on something that's in high demand and short supply. If you can wait a few months you could save a few hundred or even a thousand or so. Just depends on how bad you want it.
  • rkelonrkelon Posts: 17
    We picked up the 05 V6 premium from Garnet Ford in Chadds Ford, PA. Received 1k off msrp. Very nice people easy deal, no surprises/fees. We drove from DC to get the car and will return. We are in our 40s and think Ford hit the target with this car. We can buy what we want and I love the look of the this car, it makes a good foundation for a retro Shelby, Mach 1, CS, etc. However, Ford, if you read this, you need to do a little better on QA, the metal has some flaws on some cars. In any event, the V6 is a pleasant surprise. Good power, but need more performance related options for V6 like dual exhaust, rear sway bar, turbo...blah, blah, blah. Additionally, need a different rear spoiler like the Mach 1, but updated like the one on the BMW M3. Great job, whoever in the big Mgt chain that approved this for production. Chevy needs a retro Camaro (69), Dodge needs the Challenger (70) (not the thing I saw that is now going through the approval cycle, it will fail). If the Camaro and Challenger are approved... take a cue from Ford and not Pontiac...stay close to the originals. Let's reignite the muscle car wars...please?
  • rkelonrkelon Posts: 17
    It handles fine, drives great, but maybe a little too much road noise; I expected the V6 to be more tailored for the luxury group. However, this is not just a car to get your body and stuff from point A to point B. This is a car your soul helped you buy. It makes you feel that things are not so bad, and that maybe you will have a happy life, find the right soul mate. Get some 70s music like the Rolling Stones or Tommy James and the Shondells and take a drive in your new will find out what I am talking about. This is a chance for the 40 something crowd to buy what they could not, because you were too other age groups can buy the Mustang too if you must. We love it, reignite the muscle car wars!
  • I had a chance to inspect the new 2005 Ford Mustang today and I must say I was disappointed. For anyone that just bought one or is thinking of buying one, consider this. The front headrest are "pointed" in the front and therefore push against the back of the head. Very uncomfortable on a long ride. The back seat legroom is still too small for an adult to ride in the back comfortably. The trunk space is small. And finally, the glass door window moulding configeration is built on the cheap. By that I mean, when the rubber moulding ages and cracks, you are going to get water and wind leaks. This is possible in as little as five years of age.
  • rkelonrkelon Posts: 17
    This car makes an ugly person look good and an attractive person irresistible. Get a stick, you will need it to fight off all the attention you will get driving this car. I don't know how many near miss accidents we almost caused or neck injuries will result from us driving this car around town.

    Ford: if you are trying to cut weight, why use particle board for the spare tire cover? Plastic would have been lighter and probably would not mar the rear tail light covers like the particle board is doing to our may also be cheaper.
  • john_324john_324 Posts: 974
    Re the particle board spare tire cover, my '02 Mustang has the same thing...some things never change with Ford... ;-(

    I saw my first '05 this weekend...a red GT. Definitely looks even better in person & on the road than in pictures. Front end a homerun, but the profile doesn't really do it for me. Of course, I'm sure I'll grow to love it in time.

    Did strike me though how BIG the car is...we're clearly seeing Mustang size-creep like back in the early 1970s.

    And classic rock sounds extra good in just about any Mustang...though if you've got a Mustang II, disco is probably the better choice, esp. if yours is a Cobra II with the firesnake on the hood... ;-)
  • htwhtw Posts: 1
    Ford has been totally caught by surprise demand. The upgraded interior package, along with side airbags are no longer an option for V6 Mustangs - demand was too high - 80% of the initial orders had these options and Ford expected a more 50- 50 mix. Side-airbags, ABS, and traction control should have been standard on all models.

    Having said that, I purchased a V6 premium with the upgraded 500 radio system. I like the fit and finish thus far. The local dealerships are marking up the GT by $3000 but not the V6s.

    This might be a hit.
  • rorrrorr Posts: 3,630 long before the return of the Boss 302, given the fact that Ford Motorsports has already developed a 5.0l Cammer version of the 4.6l.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 8,030
    Don't hold your breath for the 5.0L Cammer - it's way too expensive. Cheaper to S/C the 4.6L and probably get more output in the process. Nice thought, though.
  • I sat in a 05 mustang recently and I found the headrests pushing against the back of my head. I found it very uncomfortable. Anybody else notice this quirk? It is not adjustable.
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