Honda Accord Coupe

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  • gee35coupegee35coupe Member Posts: 3,387
    I'm waiting for the Scion Tc to come out. That looks like my next car.
  • carguy58carguy58 Member Posts: 2,303
    I have heard about Check Engine lights go on in the Mazda 3. It sounds like a first year bug to me. I have heard Mazda 3 owners post the "check engine light" going on in their cars.
  • emaleemale Member Posts: 1,380
    hey guys,

    any of you wish your accord coupe had height adjustable front seat belts? this has always bugged me about my car. seems it always catches me near my neck...any comments?
  • z71billz71bill Member Posts: 1,986
    I saw the CEL posts over on the Mazda 3 board - only a few cars have the problem and most are in Canada - anyway it only happens when the temp is below zero - I live in Houston!
  • tblazer503tblazer503 Member Posts: 620
    put in in neutral or push the clutch in. =o)

    Kidding aside, I personally have no big issue with the vibrations in the car. Most likely it has to do with the speed sensitive rack and pinion or something like that... either that or the torque converter is pulling harder causing the vibrations from the engine to transmit thru the driveline and into the arm from the rack... i dunno....

    I like the Mazda 3 and 6 both. IMHO, the Mazda 3 won't hold any resale though(I know, time will tell)... but realistically compact cars tend to take a bigger hit on resale than midsized cars. The mazda 3 is overpriced for what it is. If you get the 2.0 w/ AC, SAB/SAC, AT, Moonroof/6CD, and the power package it is MSRP at 18,830. For the 3s MSRP is 20,600 w/ leather, ABS/SAC, and moonroof package. I know I bought my Accord 2.4L EX 5MT for 20,4(MSRP of 22,100) if you go to autosite, they let you compare both cars. If anything, you can almost get a 6 loaded up the same for a couple thousand or so more, but there is a rebate available(or was).

    Of course, it's all my opinion.
  • brianl0202brianl0202 Member Posts: 26
    not a big deal for me, but i did notice right away that you could not adjust the seat belts. i agree, definitley something i think the accord should have.
  • ltmarksltmarks Member Posts: 28
    I just bought my accord coupe EX v6 with Nav. Awesome car, but i was wondering a couple things:

    1. The XM satellite is always on the preview channel, I thought it came with 3 months free?

    2. Is it strange that the passenger seat is not power? The car has almost every other option? Do they do that to save weight? Or so that you can put things in the back seat more easily? or are they just cheap?

    Thanks
  • blaneblane Member Posts: 2,017
    ltmarks:

    You can change the radio to any XM channel for a preview for some number of minutes. After that number is reached you can do the same on another channel.

    That's as far as I've bothered to go with XM. There's no way that I'm going to pay ten bucks a month to listen to a car radio. Yes folks, I know that its slightly less expensive if you want to pay for a long term commitment.

    As to the lack of a power passenger seat in the coupe... the seatback flips forward and the seat does an express trip forward when you pull the lever to permit access to the rear seat. I.e. the whole seat has to move out of the way and return to its original "memory" position quickly when you need to seat someone in front. There is no way to put a slow moving, electrically driven, mechanism under a seat that's not anchored in position.
  • sleepysteve1sleepysteve1 Member Posts: 7
    If you are are only getting the preview channel
    then it needs to be activated. Call Xm and give
    them the 8 digit code that flashes on channel 000
    You have to wait 15 minutes on channel 001 after
    talking to xm then you should be ready to go. My
    dealer told me it was activated but it wasn't. Honda pays the activation fee and you get 3 months for free.
  • z71billz71bill Member Posts: 1,986
    I agree with most of your post.

    The Mazda 3 will have a lower resale value than the Accord - but IMO - not because its a compact - but because its NOT a Honda.

    Even knowing this I bought the Mazda anyway.

    Let me say in advance - that I know my logic is NOT correct - but it makes me feel better so don't slam me too bad.

    I paid $3,800 less for the Mazda 3 than the best deal I could Find on an Accord. $20,300 VS $24,100. I figure that after 4 years the Accord will still be worth 50% of what I paid so about $12,000 - the Mazda will only be worth 35% of what I paid or about $7,000. So I would have "paid" $12,100 for the Accord VS $13,300 for the Mazda 3

    $1,200 over 48 months is only $25 per month and an extra year of warranty - may be worth something.

    In the end the Accord vibration played no part in the decision.
  • aggie1995aggie1995 Member Posts: 318
    Congrats on the new car. I hope it serves you well.

    $24,100! Was that for the V6?
    I purchased my EX-L Manual (4cyl) for $20,100+TTL

    If it was the V6 why were you comparing it to a 4cyl MZ3? Or was that price a 4 cyl accord, auto, sales tax, tags, and paperwork all included?

    What did you give up in terms of features by not getting the Accord? What did you get in terms of features by buying the MZ3?
  • cstilescstiles Member Posts: 465
    You asked about the speakers I swapped out on my Accord 6spd. Yes, I put in BA FX6 in the front doors and BA FX93 in the rear. I left the stock tweeters in the a-pillars. The sound quality is no comparison. The $250 investment is well worth it. Good luck.

    Now I gotta change the tires on this car. These Michelin Pilot MXMs are weak. As soon as the weather improves it's time to put on some summer tires.

    Enough posts about 4 cylinder vibration already! Let's move on people.

    With the power seat adjustable for height, I have no problem with the fact that the seatbelts don't adjust up or down. I'm 6' 2"....I suppose if you are really short and can't raise the seat enough, the belt may rub your neck??

    This Accord is nice, but I wish they would have tightened up the styling up front just a bit more. The optional fog lights look really cheap...why couldn't they have integrated them into the lower fascia like the Solara?
  • z71billz71bill Member Posts: 1,986
    This was the drive out price on both cars - I gave up leather, power drivers seat, auto dim rear view, alarm alarm system, better ride and the reliability and resale of a Honda.

    I got one extra year of warranty, better handling, more passenger room, 17 inch wheels and - IMO a much more fun car to drive.
  • aggie1995aggie1995 Member Posts: 318
    More passenger room? I've got to go check one out to see for myself on that one.

    Have fun with your new ride. It sounds like you made the best decision for you.

    Besides I don't think you gave up too much on reliability side of things but only time will tell.
  • tblazer503tblazer503 Member Posts: 620
    anyway... congrats on the new car enjoy it, they look like fun cars...

    I'm guessing you got the (almost) fully loaded one then...

    The point I was trying to get at was that for the price of the Mazda3 you could have gotten a Mazda 6i fully loaded(leather, roof, 17", bose, etc. for about 1500 more since there is a 1500 rebate on the 6's.

    In my slight experience with auto's I have experienced that no matter what, midsized cars take less of a hit than the compact.
    For example, you can easily find one year old (02)Civic EX's for about 12-13k while '02 Accord EX's are about 17-18k in my local paper. Considering an '04 Civic MSRP's at ~19k w/ auto and SAB, while an '04 Accord MSRP's at ~23k w/ auto(both EX)... lose ~30% of the value of the Civic in the first year, while the Accord loses ~20% of the value. Both are Honda's.

    Same thing with Corolla vs. Camry, Focus vs. Taurus(bad example), Lancer vs Galant, etc...
  • lig1lig1 Member Posts: 8
    Back to the Accord V6 6MT, which I'm close to scooping up, one question-- why doesn't it have stability control....whereas every sports sedan has it. Is this a significant flaw, or minor glitch?
  • dust90dust90 Member Posts: 169
    Neither
  • h0udinih0udini Member Posts: 118
    I recently visited Gunn Honda in San Antonio to inquire about buying an Accord Coupe V6 with the manual transmission. Of course, they didn't have any with the manual transmission on their lot and told me the car would sell at or near MSRP if they received one.

    I haven't bought a new car since 1998 and right now am under the impression that very few people are buying cars at MSRP because of the economy and other factors. Gunn Honda has several new 2004 Accord Coupe V6s (automatics) on their lot which are being sold for around $24,400. I told the salesman I thought a slightly lower price than this should apply to the manual Coupe V6, being that the manual transmission costs less. The $24,400 non-negotiable price on the coupes the dealer has in stock apply to those which have remained on the lot for approximately two months. The longer the car remains on the lot, the lower the price drops. Gunn Honda adheres to a non-negotiable price philosophy.

    Am I mistaken in my thinking I should be able to buy a manual Coupe V6 somewhat close to the invoice price? Or is the manual version of this car so hard to find that the law of supply and demand takes over and dealers simply charge more for it?

    Thanks for any help and advice. I would be willing to drive outside the San Antonio area to make my purchase if doing so will result in substantial savings, so any dealer recommendations would also be appreciated.

    h0udini
  • aggie1995aggie1995 Member Posts: 318
    Check with John Eagle Honda in Dallas. Ask for Dean Oberg in Internet sales. He sold me my auto at invoice+$100. The 6 spd is rarer and would command a higher price I'm sure. But no more than invoice+$1000 premium is what i would pay.

    The V6 6 Speed has the exact same invoice price as the Accord V6 Auto.
  • aggie1995aggie1995 Member Posts: 318
    depends on the driver. the auto makes a difference also. Obviously you are a decent driver to keep up until 80.
  • hmurphyhmurphy Member Posts: 278
    Drag racing between stoplights isn't something most "decent drivers" bother with.
  • dust90dust90 Member Posts: 169
    I purchased my V6 couple last Nov and I searched in the northeast area and nearly everyone was selling the V6 6 speed for MSRP. Mine was discounted about $1000 because I have purchased several previous cars at this dealership.

    Another thing to consider is the V6 6 speed has some exclusive items other than the tranny. It is the only Accord to have a sport suspension, 17" tires & wheels, and the more powerful 180 watt stereo.
  • dust90dust90 Member Posts: 169
    I'll believe it when I see it!
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    post about street racing deleted as per Town Hall rules.

    Host
  • stevejaystevejay Member Posts: 1
    I looking to purchase a Honda Accord for my 19 year old daughter. She is going to college in the L-A area and does a lot of stop and go driving on the freeway. Can anyone share their knowledge/ experience for a young adult as it pertains to insurance costs for a 6 cylinder versus a 4 cylinder? Any imput would be appreciated.
  • gee35coupegee35coupe Member Posts: 3,387
    As was see it in the show room.

    There is no metal showing between the front of the fenders. Looks like it held together mainly by the bumpers.
  • zc1zc1 Member Posts: 34
    Yeah, I know where you're coming from. It sure looks like there's not a bunch of support but I suspect Mazda's just plastic-happy. I think there's a metal support in there (just based on the chassis diagrams) but it's just covered up by plastic...at least in the Mz3 Sport. I haven't seen chassis photos for the Mz3 sedan.
  • bfutm2006bfutm2006 Member Posts: 6
    when I checked the safety features on edmunds and found EX coupe has head air bags standard in addition to 2 front air bags. So what's exactly head air bags? Thanks
  • anonymouspostsanonymousposts Member Posts: 3,802
    Accord EX's have side airbags which are in the seat and optional curtain airbags which pop out of the pillars to protect your head in a crash.

    Click on Front Side Airbags at the bottom of the following page and it will show you the airbags deployed.
    http://hondacars.com/models/safety.asp?ModelName=Accord+Coupe
  • pgm17pgm17 Member Posts: 51
    Stevejay,

    At least my experience down here in the Miami area, when i asked my agent about insurance cost whether i got the 4 or 6 she said there would be no difference just b/c of the engine, what really may affect the rate was whether it was 2 or 4 door. You can always contact the agent, they provided a quote on whether i got a 2/4 door and which trim, the differnces weren't that much. Maybe b/c insurance is so high already here!
  • sandwichessandwiches Member Posts: 16
    Anyone notice that the rear bench (where you actually sit) is only held on by two small clips? There is a lot of free play when I pull up or push down on the back seats. Is it just my car?
  • bfutm2006bfutm2006 Member Posts: 6
    for the reply.
  • mitchfloridamitchflorida Member Posts: 420
    Is the center arm rest (covers the console storage) made of leather or vinyl on the EX model?
  • lig1lig1 Member Posts: 8
    dust90-- wow, you're incredibly articulate.
    I ask if lack of stability control in the accord coupe is a major flaw or minor item and you say, "neither." what does that answer actually mean?
    One word: "nothing." Good luck on the complex questions.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    I think he meant that it's just an option, and whether it is bad or good depends on whether you need it or not...so actually if you look at it that way, it was a pretty good answer I thought.

    He just twisted it in a clever way but that's what I think he meant to tell you.
  • lig1lig1 Member Posts: 8
    Host--dust90

    What I was trying to ask was how important, or not, stability control is--what would I be missing, or getting, since so many other cars have it; if I had that answer for myyself I wouldn't ask about it.
    I'm not sure how old the average participant is, but being cute and clever, not to mention obsessing about horsepower they can't use, seems to be the main deal.
  • lig1lig1 Member Posts: 8
    MRRRRshiftright-- I guess if you asked a doctor about the relative importance of one of your organs you'd be just happy as a lark with a one word answer. Especially since everything is optional when you think about it.
  • whitecloudwhitecloud Member Posts: 29
    I've seen some excerpts from TV auto shows where they talk about stability control. Seems to use the ABS and traction control to keep you from skidding. It seems to be only on relatively expensive vehicles. If I could afford it as an option, I would get it.
  • nw1997nw1997 Member Posts: 227
    lig1, whitecloud,

         The stability control works when cornering, taking sharp turns, etc. On straight roads it does not do diddly. Lets face it, on bad weather days, snow, sleet, etc. no one in their right mind will be blatsing or should be driving recklesly, use caution and common sense. The ABS is the same, these safeties are NOT gaurantees that you will not be in an accident. Its like some SUV drivers, they see the snow and continue to drive like mad people. What happens down the road, they are off the road, flipped, etc. A decent front wheel drive vehicle is great, add traction control and stability even better. They are all an assistance in an "attempt" to prevent you from getting into an accident. Use caution and common sense and you will be OK.
  • lig1lig1 Member Posts: 8
    white cloud, nw1997
    --thanks for the responses on stability control;
    I am trying to decide between a 6mt honda coupe and a TL. Obviously, there are many other things to compare...I was just surprised that Honda probably wanted to save some bucks and not bother with stab control. As you've said, better to have it than not, but I guess it isn't a deal breaker. The price differential between the two cars might be, tho.
    Also seems to me the driver's position and seats are better in the coupe; I wonder after a few months and all the interior tech toys in the TL lose their thrill factor, whether the car itself has anything over the coupe.
  • nw1997nw1997 Member Posts: 227
    lig1,

        I have read, for example some POSTS here that many drivers cannot utilize the bluetooth technology found in the TL as of yet. Some phone companies, like Verizon is planning to have this technology in their phones sometime this summer. If you are willing to give up some toys, u will not lose on the Accord, great value for the $$$
  • whitecloudwhitecloud Member Posts: 29
    I like my V6 Auto. I felt that it was just time to stop concerning myself with shifting. The V6 Man. IMO is a performance vehicle. I'm sure that outside of a race track you'll rarely use that 6th gear. That being said, I really can't see Honda carrying the V6 with manual past a couple years and then lucky you will have a vehicle that some will seek and I see the worth of the car going up.
  • johnny420johnny420 Member Posts: 473
    "I'm sure that outside of a race track you'll rarely use that 6th gear."

    How about on the freeway?

    Johnny
  • cstilescstiles Member Posts: 465
    The primary purpose of the 6th gear is for cruising, not for use on a race track. At 60mph the V6 is spinning at 2000rpm in 6th gear. Probably similar to the rpms on the 5-spd slushbox at 60mph. I've driven a manual all my life, and as long as you don't have a lot of stop and go traffic, it's the only way to go. Also makes you THINK while you drive.

    There is about a $6000 difference between the base price of a new TL and the Accord 6spd coupe. Besides # of doors and interior space, the cars are not exactly apples and oranges. And the price points aren't even close. I think stability/skid control is nice to have, but not essential when you already have ABS and traction control. The Accord also doesn't have a limited slip differential, which was standard on the now defunct Acura CL coupe. But other than that difference, the Accord coupe is pretty close to the CL, but $3000 cheaper. It's a good value.
  • whitecloudwhitecloud Member Posts: 29
    I cruised at 90 in 5th with my 4 cyl. Accord with
    a load at 3500 rpm. With my V6 the engine hardly works out. There are some places where 75 is the limit and people regularly do 85-90, but 5th gear is fine for cruising the highway and you might have to downshift (to 5th) to pass. So as I say I think one would rarely use that 6th gear, unless they're in wide open spaces.
  • johnny420johnny420 Member Posts: 473
    I guess my point is that I would always use a 6th gear in freeway-use situations, if only for the fact that the engine would be spinning at lower RPM's, thus burning less fuel.

    I would do this regardless of whether or not my cruising speed is 60 MPH or 90 MPH. In fact, I can't imagine why you would use 5th gear at 60 MPH (on the freeway, mind you) and not 6th.

    It remains to be seen whether Honda will continue to offer the 6 sp MT in the Accord Coupe into the future, but I suspect they will. They sell too well not to. My real hope is that they'll offer the EX V6 Sedan in 6 sp at some point.

    Johnny
  • gee35coupegee35coupe Member Posts: 3,387
    Is an overdrive. For freeway use. They used a 6 speed so they have a close ratio 5 speed plus overdrive.
  • dust90dust90 Member Posts: 169
    I'm in 6th gear anytime that I'm 60 mph or faster, on level or nearly level highway, unless I need the acceleration of a lower gear. The final drive ratio is about the same as most V6/V8 5 speeds, it just gives you an extra gear, so the spacing can be closer and you can keep the revs in the max torqe band. Plus you can shift more, which is fun, although if I'm loafing, as in heavy traffic, I'll quite often skip a gear or two.
  • whitecloudwhitecloud Member Posts: 29
    Thanks for the input and the education about that 6th gear.
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