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And as far as colors go, unless it's a very unique color like bright orange, I doubt it will effect the resale value.
In my experience, sales people don't even look at your car. They just follow the list price in their computer system, and then you'll have to fight them tooth and nail to get the value up while keeping the price on the new car down.
Thanks for any advice.
I'd advise against it for the following reasons:
1) The previous owner possibly abused the car, consequently affecting the rest of the vehicle's integrity
2) Honda trannies, for all their accumulated number over the years, appear to still be too tricky for the independent shop to fix. Not everyone knows, for example, that the original Honda ATF formulation is a must for these transmissions.
Man, I love this car!
Thanks
I really like the manual in the coupe -- smooth shifts with short throws, with the shifter at about the perfect location for the way I like to drive. I hear the 6-speed in the V6 coupe is even better. The question is: what do you like to drive?
I've owned manual cars all my life, never an auto, and never wanted to.
I've owned 5-speed Hondas from 92 until now, and they were the best cars I ever owned.
My 5-speed Accord Coupe is a 1990 , with 125,500 miles, and still going strong, with 32-37 mpg Highway (would get 40 mpg if I drove 55 mph).
My 5-speed Civic Hatch 92 is a lightweight, quick car with amazing MPG. Who needs an overpriced, complicated Hybrid. And it has a mere 40k miles.
I wish I had a 6-speed on the Accord, since on the highway, I have to run it at 3,000-3,500 RPM at around 75 mph. A 6th gear is clearly needed, for lower RPM, lower wear and tear, and even better economy.
In my experience, sales people don't even look at your car. They just follow the list price in their computer system, and then you'll have to fight them tooth and nail to get the value up while keeping the price on the new car down.
If you need to buy a new car, NEVER give your old one as a trade in, no matter how sweet the deal looks like.
Dealers make little $ from selling new cars, they make it from service and parts, and esp. from sellign used cars.
Trade ins are a part of their used car racket.
It is not a coincidence that used car salesmen are the most reviled professionals.
Sell your car YOURSELF, to another private individual, not to a dealer.
the old way of manual shift cars bringing less at resale is beacuse a few years ago manual shift cars had crank windows, no carpet, AM radio only, etc. Not true anymore.
There are fewer buyers for a manual car but the ones that want one WANT one and will pay top dollar for it.
I test drove a 5-speed automatic car and i hated the way if shifted. At WOT the engine either pulls timing or snaps the throttle closed during the shift, the end result is the car "jerks" as the engine cuts when it shifts. Not to mention the massive recall of honda (and acura) 5-speed automatics. I;m not sure they are durable enough to last. A quick check at www.hondaautomotiveparts.com shows a brand new honda accord 6mt transmission at 1100$. much better than an auto that is 3-4K at best, with dubious rebuild reliability.
also the glove box door rattles on occasion...anyone else have this problem?
Illuminated steering wheel controls are the only change that we know of at this time. Silver Frost Metallic will be the only new color and available on the Hybrid.
2005 Release Dates/Model Matrix
August Release - 4cyl & V6 Sedan (Hybrid not applicable)
Tranny options remain the same except for the Hybrid which is n/a at this time.
Lighter colors are much more UP and inviting, in my estimation.
The formulation I use for care has UV blockers in it and doesn't produce a gloss. The EX also has a feature that allows you to put the windows down before you reach the car.
My current deal is about 18k plus ttl for a 2004. So when you buy a 2005 at the start of the model year, what would you guess in terms of price increases and reduced discounting compared to buying a 2004 now, at the end of the model year.
Then how do you factor decreased resale value from having a car that's a year older (although I usually just keep my car until it doesn't drive anymore).
Thanks very much.
Thanks
Rich
OR
Toyota Solara SE V6 which is going for MSRP - $30,900.
If i went for a V6 Accord, the price jumps to $34000, which is over budget for me.
I test drove them both yesterday, and both drove really well. What are your opinions? (I know i posted on the honda board, so some of the posts may be biased
Thanks!
wayne
1) Of the $2700 TMV difference between the 2004 EX-V6 and LX-V6, you'll probably have $1500 of that difference 5 years/80k miles from now (basis: Edmunds 2004 TMVs and Edmunds used car appraiser for the 99 Accord).
2) Ultimately, you're paying a premium of only about $1200 for owning the EX within a 5-year ownership period.
3) $1200 buys you: alloys, leather w/seat heaters, moonroof, homelink, auto climate control w/dual zone temp control, metallic/wood accents, leather steering wheel, ambient console lighting, driver's seat lumbar support, and exterior temp gauge. Not sure if side airbags, which were only on the 03 EX, are on the 04 LX.
4) Come selling time, almost surely the EX will move faster.
All things considered, the EX's price premium looks highly justifiable.
Hope this helps.
I'm thinking of going with Kumho Ecsta 716s, which were dynamite on my Eagle Vision TSi.