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Tom
re: post #160
I finally agree with you! I knew we must have something in common.
Barlitz,
You will always have friends here. We are all just goofing around because we have some half-insane passion about our vehicles. Keep your input coming.
Maybe you have the time to spend at home with your headphones on, but some of us spend a lot more time in out trucks than we do in at our houses.
Therefore we like a good stereo in our trucks.Toyota came up short in this regard. I have a 99 Limited 4-Runner that has twice the sound my Tundra has.In all respects I love this truck but will have to replace the speakers to see if that will help.
PS. Anybody thinking about buying the 6 disc indash. Pass on it and go to an aftermarket., your money will be better spent. My 6 disc jammed up three weeks ago and I am still waiting for a replacement.
Tuck
don't have to many friends at this site.I think you
all made a good choice in your tundra
trucks,although I will always buy an american
product"they are getting better".I will continue to
occasionally read this site but I will keep my
comments to myself."
Look, pal. You're alright with me. Even if you did practically call me a Degenerate Communist Atheist in an earlier post. We're all car guys, and everyone knows that you get a bunch of real men together talking about cars, some folks are going to be Mustang guys while others will be Camaro guys. In our case, it's the 'non-full size, vibrating, crappy-clock-having, hype-truck' Tundra vs. the 'proven' domestics.
If it's any consolation, Barlitz, my mom's boyfriend, a seriously loyal IBEW guy from Arizona blew a head-gasket when my mom told him I bought the Tundra. He called me at 12:30am on a Monday morning to chew me out about not getting an F-150 like his. Your disgust was nothing compared to his, and *he's* the guy boinking my mom.
And another thing: Personally, I believe domestic cars and trucks are practically equal or better than their Japanese counterparts. Both sides of the Pacific have made awful crap that should never have been built, as we all know.
The 1970's are over for American car-manufacturers.
... In fact, I'd have no problem choosing a Corvette over the best Japanese sportcars Japan has to offer. If I could find a fool with one, I'd trade him my Tundra without even considering the deal.
Stick around, Barlitz. Your F-150 Lightning-driving butt is welcome here.
I apologize.
--Prez.
Howevever, if you DO like the stock stereo look, which
I do, you may just want to add better speakers and a real nice amp. An independant audio installer CAN install a new, seperate amp that will work with most stock stereos.
John
from the "Toyota Tacoma Supercharger" thread
a few threads down from this one:
BARLITZ SAYS:
"Spoken like a true traitor I hope if we are ever
in war I don't have people like you behind me.
maybe you should use that tinfoil to line the doors
of that peice of #$* toyota you drive they aremade so cheap.
PS:I know where my american dollars go, do you
know where yours go lining some japanese exec
pocket.You're a loser and so are all your sidekicks
get the &^#@ out of this country"
Well, there you have it.
Barlitz is anti-everything.
the reason there's so much extraneous junk on this thread is...we don't have much to talk about. No reliablity problems or horror stories. Toyota trucks are boring...they run without trouble, look great and are basically that best friend you take for granted.
I just can't imagine spraying in some rubberized goop into my bed, waitng for it to dry, and calling it a liner.
I can also tell you that the story of how plastic liners rub off your paint is a falsehood. When I removed mine off the Nissan after 9 years of service, I found enough dirt to plant a palm tree along with some mud-dauber wasp nests near the tailgate. After I hosed it all out with a high-pressure hose, there were no wear marks to be seen and the paint in the bed looked absolutely brand new. I never had problems I have seen with other plastic liners -- ripples along the top of the rail where the liner seems to have warped a bit. Mine was always straight as can be. Maybe it was because mine was factory Nissan?
Anyway, if you want to line your bed, I emphasize getting the plastic liner over a bed mat or a spray-in job. I just don't see the point of a spray-in: If a skip-loader dumps a shovel-full of bricks into your bed, the bed floor will cave in and dent along with the spray-in liner. With a plastic liner, you'll get the resilience that will allow your bed to survive no matter how bad the plastic liner takes it in the shorts.
To save maybe $100 spraying the goop in over getting a shiny new form-fitting plastic liner makes zero sense to me. I know there's a topic already started on this issue, but I'll be damned if anyone in there made any sense at all.
So the downside to a plastic liner is you maybe lose a few cubic centimeters of cargo space at the sides?
Get the plastic liner: It even has a neat Toyota logo at the rear, too.
Toyota bedliner in my Tundra. I also own a '92 Ford Ranger. Have had the bedliner for 7 years. I removed the liner a few months ago, had a little dirt but the paint look like new. The Toyota liner is not that overpriced. MSRP on it is $299. I purchased the aftermarket liner for my Ranger when new for $200, that was with a discount coupon from the Ford dealer at the time
and I absolutely love it. I traded a 1998 Z-71
extended cab for my SR5 2wd access cab.
Prior to my '98 Z-71, I owned a 1992 GMC
Sierra extended cab 4x4. In my opinion, there is
no comparison. The Tundra is the best truck
I've ever owned. I was able to negotiate a deal
for $800 over invoice ($25,900) at Milton Martin
Toyota in Gainesville, GA, approx. 40 miles
north of Atlanta. If you're undecided about the
Tundra, put your fears to rest. This is the truck
to buy!!
The dealer had 8-10 Tundras on the lot, but the only one with a bench front seat was blue, and I am not a fan of blue.
I saw someone mention getting some accessories online I think. A bug guard among other things. Does anyone know where I can find a website or catalog?
We are both exited to be getting rid of the Dodge, we both had a fit of patriotism awhile back and bought American cars. I know some people have great experience with theirs, but not us (I bought a Ford). Anyway, we've done our duty, and now it's on to better things.
Annette
We are both excited to be getting rid of the dodge.
I just wanted to say thanks to all of the information everyone has posted. I just bought my new SR-5 Access Cab 4x2 on Tuesday. It is Sunfire Red with Oak Cloth interior. I have the 3 in 1 cassette / cd combo; fog lamps; convenience package; 16x7 aluminum alloy wheels ; floor mats ; and the factory installed towing receiver hitch.
Sticker was $25,139. They installed an awesome alarm systen with keyless remote for $488 additional.
Unfortunately, I was not able to negotiate a discount from sticker but they made up for it by over allocating the money for my trade in. on the other hand, they were not adding additional dealer mark-up or any un-needed options that i have seen other dealers here in southern california do.
one dealer had his 3 tundras marked $5000 over sticker. another dealer was selling at sticker but had taken out the cloth factory seats and replaced them with leather at $1500 additional. they also added $1600 chrome wheels etc,... in essence taking a $25,500 tundra up to $30,000.
my dealer had 12 tundras in stock. 2 were demos not for sale, 8 were pre-sold before they ever came off the truck and 2 were available, from which i bought mine. there were 3 other families waiting to buy mine if for some reason i decided against it after my test ride....... fat chance!!
i have read other posts that talk about a rattling center console / divider...... well they are correct. It will need to go back for adjustment, i have to rest my arm on it to keep it from making noise. that does not seem up to par for the usually excellent fit and finish that toyota's deliver.
the v-8 is excellent, but the ride is a little bumpier than i expected. i'll deal with it, and i'm sure it will loosen up a little over time. i only have 180 miles on it.
thanks to eveyrone...... if i can answer any questions let me know and will reply as best i can.
NASCAR
P.S. I saw 2 limiteds there for the first time, although they were already sold, there had not been any on the west coast yet. I don't know if they are different enough, but it would be nice to have the option of a 6 disc factory CD. The tundra stereo is ok, but i think all the other posts got it right....... it should have a better factory stereo........ thanks everybody
As for the bug guard I have the Lund. Got it locally but I did the website mentioned above www.detailshop.com does carry it for about $55.
Regarding the fender flares I did see one at the dealership I bought my Tundra. It was an SR5 with black plastic flares. I did not really like them, seems rather large.
cwirth,
Was any drilling required with your Lund deflector? Also, does it have those rubber bumper type paint protectors? If so, are the bumpers on the Deflector itself or do they attach to the hood with double-sided tape? My Tacoma had the bumpers on the hood and I hated it.
The MR-2 had to have callipars replaced, the 1997 Camry had to have a "Gadget" replaced on the transmission, the 1999 4Runner has a vibration in the steering wheel which is being fixed by replacing the steering wheel with a heavier duty steering wheel. My 1996 T-100 had to have a $2500 part fixed somewhere in the steering and also had a recall on the head gaskets! AND ... now, Toyota has issues a TSB (Toyota Service Bulletin) for SOME Tundras! Not all! But some of them! Unfortunately, mine is one of them!!! The center console has a bad vibration! Toyota will TRY to fix this by replacing the old steering wheel with a heavier steering wheel. They also have to rotate and balance the tires! HELL!!! My tires DIDN'T even have WEIGHTS on them! This is a $30,000 vehicle for "Pete's Sake!" No wonder it rides so rough! Furthermore ... TOYOTA has to take my truck to ANOTHER tire store to balance the tires because the TOYOTA service departments in Oklahoma do not yet have the technology to do it accurately enough!!! WHAT? This is CRAZY! I almost hit the ceiling! Oddly enough ... the Tacoma's have a similar recall! They call it a "Rebound Vibration!"
I DID ask about the engine catching fire problem that someone had mentioned and that is a FALSEHOOD! No truth to this at all!
Should ANYONE have to go through this after only owning a truck 3 weeks? Maybe I should look into buying a GM next time! If the Tundra has one more problem I might be done with Toyota! Did I mention that it took THREE phone calls, to different dealers before someone ACTUALLY wanted to help me?!
Then I ask about accessories in the Toyota parts dept. They don't even have a bugshield available yet! HUH? I feel like I'm in a scene with the "Keystone Cops!"
I hope others have better luck with there trucks! You should check on the TSB!
Todd~~~
Eating Crow!
There is no need for these on the Tundra shield, there is plenty of room for the flexing shield. Even at high speeds the shield never gets close to the paint.
Hope this helps, I too went to the Toyota dealer first to see if they had a shield, they were clueless so I had a local truck accessory store check it out and he found the Lund for me.
you couldn't be more mistaken about bedliners vs. spray liners. first of all, it is NOT a falsehood. the plastic bedliner DOES vibrate and take the paint off. i drove 5000 miles with mine, looked underneath, and plenty of worn spots through the clearcoat. (my liner is railless which looks cleaner, but the tailgate is fully protected...)
so i took some foam (canopy lining) tape and strategically stuck it all around the bed and then replaced the bedliner... we'll see if that does the trick (and it may stop the vibration which is what removes the paint and promotes corrosion).
anyway, spray liners are far superior (and MORE expensive) to bedliners. no slip, lifetime warranty, no corrosion, no cracking, no warping, no loss of space, no theft... just better. (sharp impact wise, maybe the liner is more resistant).
either way, they're both better than a bed mat.
that's my 2 cents.
I am a potential Tundra purchaser. Can you please tell us if there is a copy of the TSB for the Tundra vibration on the web or is this something you received at a dealership?
Thanks!
Joe
They have had my truck for SEVEN hours and still no word if the problem is fixed! Toyota can't seem to balance my tires without outside help!
The "Head Cheese" at the service department didn't even know about it until I brought it to his attention! GEEZ!
The TSB oddly enough is not considered a recall ... YET! If you have a vibration in the steering wheel or console OR your ride is rough ... NOTIFY the dealer ... IMMEDIATELY!
I hope this helps everyone!
I made a copy of the TSB! Demand one from the dealers service department!
Todd~~~
Thanks for the responses and information all have shared with their new trucks.
Did I get a good price?
1. Put clear vinyl tape on the top of the bed rails. 2. Put foam sticky tape on the underside of your bedliner where they will contact the bedrails. 3. Install the bedmat 4. Install the bedliner.
The foam tape makes up for the lift that the bedmat creates under the bedliner. You can also add clear vinyl tape to the top of the tailgate and lower edge where this may rub. So I've been accused of being detail oriented! The least I've gotten for my previous used Toyota's is $800. over high book! Taking care of your vehicles pays off in the long run.
Thats a good deal considering most dealers won't budge off MSRP!
Why did I have to see a Limited?? Why did it have to have leather?? Why did I sit in it?? Why wasn't it sold already? Why do I now have to come up with a few more grand? Someone shoot me!!
to be continued....................
and isn't todd the guy that reported getting 12mpg a couple weeks ago? see resp# 63. 12mpg? either he rode around with the brake on (as I suggested at the time of his post) or maybe his truck was set up for TRD full off road baja racing (with canted wheels)?...
or worse, maybe todd's another basher in poor GM disguise? do tell more, todd. i'm starting to smell something.
The TRD decal looks cool too.Black and red on a thunder grey background.
Tuck
The misses were; rear seat room, driver comfort, styling. Overall I agree with their observations but I am sure glad others like our truck of choice. Even if they didn't I still love it.
You better be at the dealer by 9:00 am, and ring up that Visa card for the difference, or you'll be sorry. Not gonna shoot you, but somebody should.