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SAme with oil changes.
Please email me the sales person and price info. I am in So Cal and looking for a EX-L.
My email address is qin_fang@hotmail.com
Thanks.
Those prices sound very high. You might want to check: honda.autowebaccessories.com/store
I've been offered running boards installed for $549 at a dealer that already discounted the vehicle to $500 over invoice. The only reason I haven't jumped on the deal is that I'm still considering a GX470. At $50,000, but with a gross vehicle weight of over 6,000 lbs, the "after tax" cost to me is exactly the same as a 5,950 gvw Pilot. That should tell you how much I like the Pilot, that I haven't jumped to the GX yet.
Did your homework for you (below) - top pricing is your dealers price installed, middle is hondacuraworld w/ shipping and bottom is handa-accessories w/o shipping. I have installed the cross bars and running boards myself and were relatively easy. Don't have the fog lights so can't comment on the installation, although I would expect it to be a little more complex.
fog Lights, $689.00
$299.00
$276.00
running boards, $699.00
$453.70
$418.80
crossbars, $207.50
$133.90
$130.80
cargo tray, $96.50
$70.20 (on special right now)
$94.80
cargo liner, $220.00
$159.90
$147.60
I'm trying to price out now a 04 EX-L with NAV. Sticker on it is like 333260 or something. The first dealer I went to has an "upfront lowest price" hahah, they gave me a whopping $500 off sticker, and won't budge. $2800 over invoice? I don't think so. I've sent out quote requests to dlr's all over the NE area...No way I'm paying anywhere close to the first figure. Will let oyu know...
I think you're getting a Mega- where a Kilo- should have been (assuming your user name is associated to your job). But, hey, if an order of magnitude one way or the other doesn't bother you, then I've got a house here in North Texas to sell you for 2,500,000 or something! ;-)
However, I must make mention of two huge short falls regarding this dealer.
On the 7 yr extended warranty, they offered my a price of $1510. I found it on my own at another dealer (out of state) for only $980 and it is good at any Honda dealer in the U.S. This extra more than 50% gouging is outrageous.
Secondly, I could not believe the difference in treatment between their sales people and service people. The service department was so unprofessional over the phone that I will be having my car serviced at another dealer.
The woman I first contacted refused to speculate how long I would have to wait at the dealer for the SRS Control Unit recall service to be performed. When I told her that my schedule was fairly tight the day I had reserved (a few weeks out), she refused to change the appointment and became belligerent. I had to speak to someone else to get an estimate of the time involved.
Two working days before the appointment, the woman called on my answering machine to say that the appointment was cancelled due to a virus in their computer and they would call back shortly to reschedule. That was about 2 weeks ago.
Well I am not holding my breath. Got an appointment at another dealer in the meantime.
Yonkers Honda service department is obviously not much concerned about my family's car's safety recall. So I am not concerned about going to a competitor.
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I was told by a dealer up in VA that Florida, where I live (Miami area), is, in fact probably the cheapest place to buy a car. I don't know why that is. But I guess for once, I got lucky <g>.
We do love the car and love that Nav package. It has some funky menus to get around in, but I think I have them figured out.
Getting an aftermarket dvd put in on the ceiling on Friday. 10.4 inch. Ended up getting a separate dvd player instead of an all in one unit. If anyone wants to know why, I'll be happy to go into detail..
Again, congrats sysadmin!
For those of you in the East contemplating a trip to Ohio, it might be worthwhile to check with this store in addition to those mentioned in other posts in Cleveland, Akron, and Canton. There are three Honda dealers in Columbus (Hugh White, Roush, and Honda East) located fairly close to the airport.
IF you are interested in the company that does it its vizuallogic.com. They color match the interior and ship out two headrests with the screens pre-installed, two wireless headphones, rf adapter to play through stereo, couple of a/v boxes (small) to connect cables too, and all the other install stuff. BB sells this for $1440 and only $150 to install. And, sine you have two screens, one kid can play PS2 or something and the other can watch a movie. Thats what the extra a/v boxes they send are for.
I priced out a 7" and 9" ceiling mount unit with dvd and headphones, and both shops wanted $1600 and $1900 respectively to do it. The best buy option is cheaper, and I think cleaner cause it doesnt hack up the interior or headliner and you get two screens...just my 2c...check them out..
You can find them on the web.
Watch out for their, Dealer Fee. Let me explain this baloney, this Dealer Fee stuff.
They have two, "Dealer Fee's" on the window. One is the Dealer Prep fee that we are all used to seeing. The baloney of scotch guard, undercoating, and so on. They took that off right away, no hassle no bother.
Now, the other Dealer Fee, that one is a problem. And it was for me, initially. And only through much much much teeth nashing was I able to get it removed.
Here is their latest scam on the consumer in this area. The Dealer Fee, here in Florida, is something that they MUST charge you. That is what they will say to you. They HAVE to charge you for it. The Dealer Fee covers fee's for taking delivery of the car and setting it up, for advertisement, and so on. It is in addition to the $490.0 destination fee.
Whereas in fact, what occurs is that whatever Dealer Fee that THEY REGISTER WITH THE STATE OF FLORIDA, is what they have to charge. No more, no less. So, they do have to charge you this. BUT...THE TRUTH IS THAT THE DEALER FEE THAT THEY REGISTER WITH THE STATE OF FLORIDA COULD BE ONE DOLLAR! But no, it is $499.00 at Rick Case Honda. Other dealers in the area charged differently. Some were $275, or $350, or $550. It is whatever they have registered with the state that they have to charge.
So, what does that mean to you if they have to charge it to you? Again, as I have said before on this msg board, it is a shell game with the dealer. They don't care what title money is under. As long as in the end, they get more profit per car. So the shell game would include price of the vehicle, any fees they can successfully pass off to you, trade in pricing, accessories, etc.....
The more shells they can bring into the game, the better for them.
And make no mistake about it, the Dealer Fee is a profit center for them. They make money off of you in this category.
So what did I do to get this dealer fee taken off? They had already given me a good price on my trade in ($1200.00 for 1989 Honda Accord in fair condition). After much struggle, they changed the price of the trade in Accord to $1700.00.
And that was how it ended. I purchased the pilot at this point, believing that $1700 for my old Honda with 152k on it was about $500 over the value of the car in a trade in situation. And to sell it privately, well, the factory sun roof leaked. And me as a consumer, if I were looking for a used car, I would have walked away from anything that leaks. Water where it is not supposed to be is a baaaaaaad situation. So at $1700 for the trade in, I was very satisfied.
So in the end, the paperwork still reflected the Dealer Fee of $499.
And that is how the shell game worked in my case.
Price of the actual pilot EX-L w/ Navi was $30,400, including destination fee. Then the Dealer Fee of $499 was added to that. But the trade in value of my old honda was bumped up 500 to offset it.
It's all a shell game.
You will not be successful in getting it (the dealer fee) taken off the paperwork as according to them, by law, they HAVE to charge it. But you try to get them to come down in other areas to offset that as part of the shell game.
And again, the Dealer Prep fee, they will take that off right away. But not the Dealer Fee. Both are $499.
I hope that helps as I have tried to approach and re-state from a few different angles.
Good luck and let us know how it turns out!
haha...confused? Yes, a little. And even the dealer told me, when I asked him, well, which do you like? He said, personally, that he liked the headrest ones best. The ones you are getting. For their versatility and clean install. I can't argue with that.
So....that being said, I am getting the ceiling mounted one. Dvd player will be at the bottom of the radio stack, in that little cubby-hole. Mounted to the underside of the radio stack. Not sitting on the floor of the cubby-hole.
Price for a 10.4 inch screen, auxilliary audio adapter cable (this is something you might look into. My system will not use an fm modulator. It will use a hardwired cable to the back of the radio. This will alleviate any noise you hear from an fm modulator over the speakers. It sets up kind of a ground loop resulting in a huummmmm. So you get cd quality sound instead of an fm signal sound through the air. And no hummm possibilities. You will get less hummm if they shield it correctly. But you will not get rid of it. The auxilliarly audio adapter cable is like hooking up a component to your stereo system. That is the idea of it), extra cable for future gaming stowed under the seat, and dvd player is $1800.00 installed and including 6% sales tax. That is the out the door price.
I hope I don't regret doing the ceiling mount. My wife likes it. And you know how those situations go!
Good luck and tell us how you like it!
So Blitz I think is the name/manufacturer.
I would think that any installation shop would know about this adapter.
Yes, when you want to hear the sound over the speakers, you would select the cd button and utilize the, "chg" portion of it. If not over the speakers, then of course the wireless headsets.
We re-addressed the headrests that you are getting. We ended up staying with the overhead unit because of price. The $1800 out the door price includes everything (as I said earlier), including the wireless headsets (2x). With the same brand that you are putting in your machine of video headrests, you have to buy everything ala carte. Aux audio cable, tv tuner, headsets are all extra. So that would have brought the price up another 500 bucks. So we stayed with what we have..
I have not received any of the equipment yet. They are installng this Friday.
You are absolutely right, in my opinion that the nav is the cleaner way to go. You cannot in-dash install a nav system in the pilot. The only way is from the factory. So if want both nav and dvd, you have to do the nav system from the factory. And anyway, you can get a better dvd system aftermarket than Honda offers, for less price. In most cases, anyway.
The auxilliary audio adapter cable, I am pretty sure, is the name of the cable you want that plugs into the back of your radio. Your installation shop should know what that is, just based on the description you give them. If they tell you this is not available for the Honda Pilot 2004, they are mistaken (I had one shop tell me there was no cable available on the market). Actually, I am saying cable. That is incorrect. It is a little unit. An adapter. That plugs into the back of your radio with (of course), wires in and out of the adapter.
But this adapter will take care of all huummmm/feedback/engine noise/electrical noise, giving you cd quality sound.
The front Pilot headrests do adjust in the vertical only. You have to squeeze your fingers to the pole of each headrest and push the horizontal buttons on each pole.
Please email me the sales person and price info. I am in No Cal, but I have family down there and I don't mind picking it up while I'm down there if I can get a good deal. I am looking for a EX-L with Nav.
My email address is sungchang@hotmail.com
Thanks.
I think it is gonna' be the way to go to get away from that annoying hum.
WOOOOHOOOOO! As I said, I will post some pics!
As you said, concentrate on your out the door price. It's too easy to get bogged down on a line item and miss your bottom line target.
Get your price and let the dealer worry about how to allocate your dollars.
Happy holiday shopping!
Steve, Host
I got the same car but sage at Crest for 28,860. And DW wouldn't even budge on their price down in Franklin. Glad you got it; I guess most of the dealers in Nashville are willing to negotiate.
2004 Honda Pilot EX-L with DVD. Sagebrush Pearl with Fern Leather interior.
Webasto 749 sunroof
Black side step
Rear Splash guard.
for 31,550+Tax+Title+Plate.
Is that a good deal?
Anyone got something more. I am not sure if I can get better than this.
Final price out the door (on road): 31036 (includes price+tax+title+newplate+rear splash guards+cargo trey+ auto dimming mirror). All installed. Car was right off the truck - 3 miles on odometer. There would be couple of them out there but will be sold before they arrive. Even heard from dealer that a guy from California was coming to buy one.
Congrats on the new Pilot.
Steve, Host
The experience with Honda West has been very positive so far.
$29200 (includes $490 destination fee)
$31898 (includes dest fee, lic and tax)
I consider it a fair price, but I wished I waited 24 hours because I got a email from the dealer in Harbor City for a lower price. The "weekend special" runs from Dec 19 - 22. Here are Harbor City's prices:
04 LX: $25442
04 EX: $27572
04 EX-L: $28860
04 EX-L with NavSys: $30658
04 EX-L with DVD: $30208
I could have saved another $340. Oh well!! I hope somebody can take advantage of the great deal. If you want the email ad, let me know.
But the truth of the matter is, if taking their words as truth, that they only can charge you whatever fee in this "Dealer fee", that they have registered with the state. They could have registered a Dealer Fee of $100.00 with the state. And that is what they would have to charge you. No more, no less.
And that is what clued me in on the game. Because they make this, "dealer fee", sound like something that the state of Florida has set as a fixed price to all the dealers in the state. And it was only when I called around that I found out otherwise. That one dealer charges $250.00 for this dealer fee. Another charged $375.00. And as all the dealers had the same speel on the requirement of this charge by the state, I came to the conclusion that, again, they have to charge you what they have registered. No more, no less. They could have registered $100.00 with the state.
Whether the, "Dealer Fee", and their explanation is actually true or not, heck, who's to know.
In the end, all dealers were charging it in my area. All said it would not be taken off as it is a required charge. But, all also admitted it was a profit center for the dealer.
I liken this fee to the new fee that auto garages are charging. They have a $20.00 miscellaneous fee that they charge you now. It is such a load of crap. It is what they say they need to charge you for liquid disposal (oil, radiator fluid, etc..), shop rags, etc...
What a crock. Because the shops didn't lower their rates or parts prices when they decided to separate this charge. Nope. They just try to add it on top.
The last two times I have gotten work done, I was able to get this charge removed. But, as the public gets more used to seeing this charge, and the shops more and more psychologically get away from the reality of the charge being a ripoff, to the point where they think they should really be charging this extra, they probably won't take it off.
I liken the, "Dealer Fee", to the miscellenous shop fee I described above. Same bs.
Bottom line, is the bottom line. Same as you said. Not getting confused over the shell game that the dealer gets you into to try to confuse you on what that bottom line target price was originally.
bconsi wanted to know about this. To answer your question, bconsi, no, I dont think you will be able to view the headrest screen comfortably from the 3rd row. They might have to lean up. The salesman, as a selling point of the ceiling mount, talked about the third row viewing and how good it would be with a 10.4" or 9" screen. He said the 7", which is what the headrest monitors come with, are too small.
If you have the money, bconsi, the best....I mean THE BEST...way to go, would be headrest monitors in all seats. hahaha...I know, a lot of money. That's why I prefaced it with, "if you have the money". And ulitmately, in switching to the headrest monitors, I had to lose the tv tuner to keep the price the same. Read on.
So headrests vs. ceiling mounts comes down to a judgement call on the buyers part. 2 children or less, and the headrests have the advantage of one child being able to watch a movie, while the other one plays videos. Or one can watch tv (if you have a tv tuner). And so on. As long as there is are separate video sorces, each can flip the screen to what they want to watch. So, more options for the multiple children scenario, as each can watch what they want.
The other plus is that the headrests are a much cleaner installation on your new pilot (mine is now a month old), and for me, I wasnt really excited about cutting the headliner, for resale. Because with the headrests, you pop out the headrests monitor, send it back to the company (for a fee), and they send you a new headrest for the new car you have bought. You put the old headrest monitors back in your Pilot, and sell the car untouched and factory fresh.
Pluses of the headrest sytem:
-cleaner...more of a, "factory" look
-easier and less invasive to your car to install and uninstall
-better quality screen (the brand, "epic", that I am buying is a third generation screen. Much nicer than the audiovox one I was going to get.)
-more video source switching options. Providing you have the multiple video sources. If you just have a dvd player, then you only will have one video source and one screen on the ceiling would be fine. And you would be able to have third row viewing (9 inch screen or larger). But if you are planning on gaming, or having a tv tuner, or both, resulting in multiple video sources, multiple screens will allow you to switch around on video sources so one kid can do one thing, and another another.
Drawbacks of the headrest monitors
-more money
-third row seating viewing difficult
-7 inch screen is the largest offered, although supposedly a 9 inch screen is going to be offered in the near future.
-minor cutting will be required somewhere for the dvd player. If you buy the all in one audiovox one that I was going to do, then you wouldnt have to cut anywhere for the dvd player. But you would have to cut your headliner. I think the cutting for the dvd player is less invasive overall.
The dealer was very sincerely pro headrest monitors. Sincere as in he wasnt trying to make more money (price ended up being the same, but now didnt have the tv tuner. Adding the tv tuner would have been an extra 300-400, hence, the higher price for the headrest systems, you have to pay for everything ala carte. They dont come as an all in one package), he really thought the headrests were a better monitor, a much much cleaner installation with a 100% factory look (the Epic brand, as Im sure the other ones do, send you headrests that match your car EXCTLY in style and color), and the possibility of video source switching.
So, if you have the money, I think that the more headrest screens you put in, the better! That way, the kids arent fighting.
The price, as I said, ended up being the same. The all - in - one audiovox unit that mounts on the ceiling with a 9" screen, installed and with tax (the out the door price), was $2050.00 And that came with EVERTHING.
-two IR headsets
-tv tuner
-9 inch monitor
-fm modulator (see my discussion on aux audio adapters with sysadmin1. I swapped this out for an aux audio adapter and will not be using the fm modulator)
-dvd player
And I added a gaming wire for future use (L/R audio and video cables to be stored under the seat).
The Epic, as I said, is ala carte. So I have the same things above, less the tv tuner. So no tv capability. For $2050. It can be added in the future, for a price of course! And the headsets that I purchased with the Epic headrest monitors are much much better. They are not IR. They are RF. So you dont have to hold your head just so for the headset to pick up the IR signal. And it isnt necessary to have IR repeaters drilled throughout the car to receive the infrared signal. The RF is a radio frequency. So is not a line-of-sight thing. Go wherever and listen uninterrupted.
Oh, btw, I am putting the dvd player at the bottom of the radio stack. I have a navi system, so no room to mount the dvd player in the radio stack. It is in that cubbyhole at the bottom. But that trim piece that they will be cutting into, is replaceable. So if you replace the trim piece, and re-install the original headrests, your car in now factory, again. If you dont replace that cubbyhole trim piece, the holes will be on the top of the cubbyhole, and nobody will see them anyway.
DVD placement is a whole nother issue. And if anyone has any better suggestions, I am open. I have a navi system, as I said, so mounting it in the radio stack is not an option. And mounting it under the passenger seat isnt an option because of the navi computer under the seat. The drawback of putting it in that cubbyhole at the bottom of the radio stack is that my wife will lose most/all of that space, and, the cutting required for mounting and running the wires. Again, that piece is replaceable. So it comes down to the lost space. The wife wasnt real jazzed about that. But she did like the convience of putting the dvd disk in.
Sysadmin1, you keep saying RES. What does RES mean?
In the end, it is really a judgement call. Each system has its plus and minus. There is no clear cut.
It comes down to 2 systems. Either the all in one on the ceiling, or the headrests. Hopefully, the windy explanation(s) offered above will highlight some of the issues to consider in the choices.
www.handa-accessories.com
I think he said that is where he ordered them. And that is where I have ordered genuine Honda accessories.