2013 and earlier BMW 3-Series Prices Paid and Buying Experience

ilovedogs

FYI, BMW has special incentives on 3 series coupes and convertibles (only) till end of February on GROUND units only. Must be financed or leased through BMWFS.

lovebmw330i

Does anyone have any experience or opinion on the Portable Navigation System offered by BMW for $650. Thanks

andynn002

Hi,

I got the following offer from a dealer:-
2008 328i coming in Black/Black with Navigation/Premium pkg/Auto/heated seats. The lease for 36 months / 12k and $2,500 out of pocket will be $488 monthly.

I would require maybe 10k every year lease.So please let me know if this is a good deal.The lease will come to $20068.
Also how much will be the insurance rate(comprehensive) for a new BMW 328i
Thanks a lot for all the help.

Regards,
Andy

x021627

i read on the bimmerfest.com website that there is $1500 cash for 3 series for lease/finance for on the lot cars from 2/15-2/29. You might want to look into that. Good Luck!

cooljc74

Fpham,

Sounds like a steal.
I am in the market for conv as well.
Can you email me contact info?

Thanks!

cooljc74

Can you provide more information as I am in the market for conv?
There is no speacial financing available for conv - only for cpe on edmunds...

Thanks!

dsasi

You will have to ask your dealer about the incentive.

See attached thread for details.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=263315

fchin1

lovebmw330i
can you e-mail me the dealers info?
Thanks,

gplayerjr

Not quite right, the $ is available for units that arrived in dealer inventory BEFORE Feb 14 2008. priority 1 cars do not qualify either!

gplayerjr

I have one, it's a Garmin Nuvi 360...I just put one in my wife's 08 328, and we both LOVE it....easy to use and touch screen rocks!

lovebmw330i

Thanks for the reply. Did you buy it thru a BMW center and have them install it? Is the LCD screen 3.5" or 4.3"? Also, how is the "custom" mounting bracket.

lovebmw330i

You should shoot for $2,500 off MSRP! If that dealer doesn't want to give you that discount just get up and walk. Shop around and negotiate and you will find a dealer willing to give you this deal.

blueguydotcom

Actually, just email around. No sense in wasting time in person. Write down what you want, the price and what you price you want to pay.

AFTER they agree to price ask for their exact lease rates: mf, residual, miles, fees, etc.

Also, if there is cash in the trunk, then the price - in my eyes - should be very close to invoice on a coupe. On a sedan with trunk money, I expect a sale price below invoice.

andynn002

This is only for coupes and convertible...
I guess thats a good deal for me then..any guys have any thoughts please let me know...
else im planning to take the car this weekend...

jetblack exterior /black interior
Navigation,Premium package and Heated front seats,Auto transmission

$3000 down and 458$ per month for 36 months...
Its a steal rt?

sedmund

There is a video in youtube that gives an idea about this:

Garmin GPS BMW Nuvi 360

andynn002

Hi Guys,

The final figures are below:-

MSRP - 40300
Base Cap Cost/Lease Price - 38000
Bank fees or any other fees included - 825
Lease End Residual Value for the Car - 25389
Lease Money Factor - .00190
Cost for Additional Miles( > 36000) - .20
$2500 down includes first payment+bank fees+DMV+Taxes
He said security deposit is included in the price,0.00175 of the money paid..I didnt get that but jus didnt bother...
Please let me know if this sound good....experts here put down your thoughts please..I need to confirm ASAP..
Thanks a ton...

Andy

drrocket

Any advice on an alarm system for an '08 328i SP sedan with Comfort Access? Is the optional BMW alarm system decent, or is there an especially good aftermarket alarm system recommended for the car?

Any extended warranty advice? How do BMW's extended warranty options compare with the ones offered by WarrantyDirect or similar aftermarket company?

Thanks in advance for any info or advice.

amir

hi guys.i am new to leasing since i always financed in the past. i want to know that if the residual value of a lease car is based on msrp of the car or negociated price of the car? lets say a $50k car with 60% residual will be 30k. but if the negociated price is $44k then the same cars residual will be 26400. i wana know which amount will be the residual value on which the lease will be based? thanks

blueguydotcom

No point in getting an alarm on a BMW.

ocautoseeker

The residaul value is based on the MSRP (including destination charge). If you have a $50k car that carries a 50% residual for 36 months, then the residual would be $25k. You have a spread of $25k known as the depreciation. On a lease, you pay the difference between those two numbers + interest and sales tax.

Now, negotiating a lower cap cost simply lessens the spread (depreciation) and thus lowers your monthly payments. Make sense?

jaedlee

~ 2300 below MSRP or 400 over invoice (which includes maco and training) on 328i 4dr sedan w/premium, auto, nav, heated seats, ipod and xenon. After it's all said and done, why haggle over a 100 ~ 200 bucks on a car worth close to 40k. I think i can give up one Big Mac meal every month to compensate for the cost difference and makes the transition lot smoother for all involved; they make some, and i get a reasonable deal. Speaking of dealerships, i wasn't too pleased with Pacific Glendale who claimed car i was looking for was on stock when it actually wasn't. They did offer the lowest (which Southbay ended up matching) but didn't like the game. Southbay dude was straight up. thanks all for your posts/info.

J

elizariev

I posted in the lease questions, but thought I'd post here too and maybe get some feed back as to how well I did. Anyone?
I got a 328i today at $136 over the invoice. 63% residual, MF .00175, Drive off was $625 acq fee, $150 doc fee and 1st month payment.
Dealer was great, the best one to deal with in St. Louis metropolitan area. We had some really horrible experience with Suntrup BMW with our last lease, but O'Fallon guys were great.
Love the car!
Thanks.

amir

thanks.you cleared my confusion.

jezmia

Hi Harry,

I am looking to lease a bmw 328i in the south fl area. I have already been at Brahman in Miami, but did not get a decent deal. Some friends suggested to go to the bmw's at Broward, wanted to know if you agreed, also would you mind sharing the deal you got? I know this basically depends on the area where you live, also what did they charge you for inceptions? I read different things on different places.
thanks in advance.

drrocket

"No point in getting an alarm on a BMW."

Why is that? What about break-ins to steal contents? Wouldn't an audio alarm (triggered by vibration or glass breakage) serve as somewhat of a deterrent, or at least limit the amount of time a thief had to rummage through the car? And if the alarm had ignition kill, wouldn't it be more difficult to steal?

My CA is trying to convince me to get LoJack instead of an alarm, but if the alarm prevents the car theft, LoJack wouldn't be needed (except, maybe, for a carjacking), would it?

ericlau01

Anyone purchased the Extended Warranty and Maintenance pkg that covers up to 6 yrs / 100k miles during the new car purchase? They told me I can purchase this before my original warranty expires.

It will cost $2400 at the SF BMW dealership.

Anyone purchased this and what was the price?

jezmia

hi, I am looking for a 328i sedan in the south Miami area. I wanted to know if you could share the deal you got, I have read different posts for good deals, but I know it depends on where you are located. thanks!

jezmia

Hi,

I know this question has been asked many times over, but each case is different. I am looking to get a 328i automatic with power front seats and metallic paint. The dealer is quoting $35,920, MF .00175 residual factor 63% 36months 12k miles, inceptions $1215, I have asked a detailed inceptions, but still have not got it, he just said that he was not charging any Bank acquisition fees or Dealer Fees (which he said a lot of dealer add at the last minute to increase inceptions). monthly payments $460+taxes. This seems very high to me???

I also got this other offer $475 included taxes $0 out of pocket, $0 down payment, something they call sign and drive, but this one was for a 328i sedan automatic, basic paint, no extras. Now the salesperson was not that nice, so not sure if he was just bluffing and he game me a figure and can't really do it.

any suggestions on how I can bring the price of the vehicle down or the mf down or plainly get a good deal. Ideally I would like to get my payments $400 including taxes or maybe $400 plus taxes, $0 down, but want the automatic, metallic paint and power seats which are more money. is this realistic???

Normally, would you suggest doing $0 down inceptions only or sign and drive $0 out of pocket, $0 down ???

thanks for replying....

nyccarguy

Car alarms are the biggest joke. If somebody wants to steal your car, they're going to take it. When's the last time you heard a car alarm going off, stopped what you were doing, and immediately called the police?

LoJack: If somebody steals my car, they can have it. I don't want it back. LoJack is very expensive and the cost doesn't justify the insurance reduction. The real pros know how to disable LoJack.

blueguydotcom

Why is that? What about break-ins to steal contents? Wouldn't an audio alarm (triggered by vibration or glass breakage) serve as somewhat of a deterrent, or at least limit the amount of time a thief had to rummage through the car? And if the alarm had ignition kill, wouldn't it be more difficult to steal?

1. No, it won't be a deterrent as alarms are ignored and even smash and grabbers know that. A smash and grab thief does the deed because he can see something to take. It takes 5 seconds to bust a window and take something. Nobody will even look at him or care. There was a video for awhile of a guy on youtube wandering around a casino smashing windows with a brick in a bag and pocketing stuff.
2. A professional thief is no more bothered by an alarm than you would be by an annoying children's toy with a visible off switch. And again, nobody will even glance at him if the alarm goes off.
3. BMWs have an ignition kill. BMWs are not stolen by joyriders; they like 91 Camrys. BMWs are stolen by pros who can turn off an alarm in seconds. And if they're taking BMWs then they have the necessary tools to fool your car's computer easily or they'll simply tow the car. Ever seen a towed car going down the highway with its alarm going off? Does anyone call the cops? Nope. You assume the tow truck has the right.

My CA is trying to convince me to get LoJack instead of an alarm, but if the alarm prevents the car theft, LoJack wouldn't be needed (except, maybe, for a carjacking), would it?

The alarm won't stop a pro and lojack just means you might get back your car - assuming you discover the theft soon after the car's been boosted - any later and the car is in pieces or on a boat out of the country. If your car is stolen, hope it never comes back to you as it won't be the same.

And never leave anything of value in your car. If you can't afford to lose it, it shouldn't be in something as vulnerable as a car. Glass windows aren't real secure. Ever used a slimjim? Scary how easy that is! Alarms go off everyday and nobody looks. Don't leave anything of value in your car and you'll never have to worry as the car's insured. Let it go...it's just a car.

circlew

If the alarm comes with the car, good. My '06 330 came without one and still has none. Alarms are a challenge for thieves. They like it and will get ANY nonetheless. The good ones just disable the alarm and hook up the car to a tow truck and go. Real fast and painless.

My motto: If your affraid it will be stolen, it will.

If you purchase BMW Assist, it's like lojack anyway. Save your money, IMO.

Regards,
OW

drrocket

I asked my CA why I would need LoJack, since the car comes with BMW Assist. He said they serve different purposes (I guess BMW Assist isn't supposed to find stolen BMWs, just accident-prone ones). He also said that BMW Assist works via GPS, so a satellite needs to be able to see it, whereas LoJack works via radio-waves, which can penetrate buildings and enclosures.

My concern about LoJack is, I can envision a high speed police chase resulting in the death of innocent people, and the BMW probably being totaled in the process. No thanks, I do not want any part of that, and I certainly would not want the car back afterwards.

I'm not really concerned about professional car thieves, primarily just the amateurs (teenagers and similar hooligans). Occasionally my small dog is left sleeping in the car while I am (usually) within sight and/or sound of the car. I would certainly want to thwart a dog-napping. Also, I don't know if amateurs are aware that a portable XM radio would be useless to steal because the XM subscription is linked to its serial number. I am planning to have a portable GPS hardwired in, but I know to remove that from sight after parking the car. I'm also planning to have a V-1 hardwired in, which would also need to be shielded from view.

On a tangent, I can't help remembering that, not long ago, a very popular local suburban high school boy was shot to death (shot in the back as he tried to flee) after his BMW 3-series was carjacked. I guess it sticks in my memory because it was a 3-series BMW. I don't know if there is any way to be protected from a situation like that, but I worry because in a few years I may pass the Bimmer along to my teenage daughter. I know it could happen with any car, but, in this case, it was a 3-series BMW, so I can't help relating.

gtli

I've been approved to assume a lease on a 2007 335i. Alpine white, premium and sports packages.
24 months and 24k miles left on lease.
$535/month.

Is that a good deal?
Thanks

blueguydotcom

Dr. Rocket,

An amateur car thief simply can't steal a BMW. Unless it's a carjacking, a joyrider won't be able to take your car. You cannot hotwire a BMW. You can't screwdriver it like a honda/toyota/gm. The best defense against a carjacking - auto-locking (you can configure this in a 3 series) and being vigilant.

andynn002

Atlast got my dream car...
BMW 328 i with navigation,premium package and heated front seats...selling price is 38775 including destination and handling...hope they didnt screw me...
The lease was 3300 down and 460/month for 36 months/36k miles
Got the tire protection plan also so mnthly payment went to 473.
First annoying stuff was I can connect my ipod to AUX but cant change the tracks using the buttons in my steering wheel...
rest all the car is a beauty...
Thanks to all here for the inputs....

blueguydotcom

How could an aux port allow you to change anything on your ipod? It's a simple jack.

circlew

I understand your concerns but you need to let 'em go. If you keep worrying, you will attract exactly those events! Sorry for the psych stuff but I would just enjoy whatever car you have and be careful but not overly so. Alarm systems are close to worthless. I don't have one in my house either.

For the portable GPS, remember to wipe your window where the base mount suction cup leaves a mark if you use one. That's one of the ways they know you have one and assume you are hiding it somewhere in the car.

Regards,
OW

drrocket

Thanks for the advice. I know you're right, I just have that tragic incident etched in my memory because a 3-series BMW was involved.

Regarding the GPS, I don't use the suction cup. Currently I use the friction beanbag mount, which is easy to slide off the dash and cover up on the floor. Wait, I take that back, I do use the sucton-cupped FM traffic antenna (which I usually leave in place because it is such a nuisance to take down and reattach). My ultimate plan, however, is to have my Garmin nuvi 360 attached to a Kuda dash-mount and hardwired to the car, I purchased the BMW Garmin GPS mounting kit, but am too timid to cut into the dash, so I figured I'd attach the charging unit to the Kuda, and pop the GPS out of the holder whenever I park the car. I love the cover plate that is part of the BMW/Garmin kit; it hides the charger-mount so neatly. I'm not sure what, if anything, can be done to hide the FM traffic antenna. Any suggestions?

In the future, after the [voice-recognition] Garmin nuvi 880 becomes available and the prices come down, I plan to have it take the place of my 360, though I understand it has a different charging mount (I won't be able to re-use the coverplate ). That unit comes with MSNDirect, which I'm hoping an installer can hardwire out of view.

Thanks again for your advice.

circlew

The FM antenna issue is what it is. If I looked into your car, I know you have a GPS.

Outside of removing it each time, I am at a loss.

Regards,
OW

kalamazoo

Not really a good price. Does the payment include tax? any down payment? Any turn-in costs? At the price you mentioned, if it includes all of the above, you are paying over 50cents per mile to drive a used car.If the tax, down payment etc are extra the cost goes up per mile. Plus ,insurance. If the car was new, the price would be good. It is a used car. I like leasing, but it sounds like you probably should not be leasing, if looking at a used vehicle. I assume it is a lease assumption, but it is still used. Have you considered buying? Lots of good deals in this economy. Don't be dazzled by the thought of a Bimmer.

kalamazoo

Never,ever,ever put money down on a lease. No cap reduction ever. Many reasons for this. In your case,it helps to assess the real cost with no money down. First payment, acquisition fees are okay, but no cap reduction. Be sure to see a breakdown of the dealer fees. These are fairly arbitrary and in some states regulated by the state. But, dealers will pack a lot of profit into "dealer fees".The 475 sounds very good. But without knowing, how many miles on the lease, turn-in fees etc. I cannot tell if it is good deal. Is this an 08? if so, the lease sounds good. $400 with no out of pocket,no trade, an 08. no fees, will not happen. the money factor figures out to just under 5%.

manybmws

You would need to get the iPod interface that is an option for $400.

drrocket

I got the following quotes from my dealer:

The original owners extended warranty is available at a cost of $3,375.00. The warranty will extend the vehicle warranty to 72 months or 100,000 miles. The warranty has a $50.00 deductible per occurrence. [What exactly is an occurrence?] [Is airbag coverage included?]

The extended maintenance program is also available at a cost of
$1,695.00. The program extends the full maintenance program to 72 months or 100,000 miles.

WheelGuard tire and wheel protection:
Benefits:
100% reimbursement coverage (pro-rated)
Tire(s) repair or replacement
Wheel(s) repair or replacement
Labor charges
Valve stems
Mounting and balancing
Sales tax

WheelGuard is a reimbursement program and good at any tire store
throughout the country.
The cost is $697.00 for 5 years of coverage.

Warranty Direct bumper-to-bumper extended warranty quote for same intervals as BMW plan:
6 Years / 100000 Miles, $50 deductible = $ 2,552; Add'l airbag coverage = $152

More suitable for my situation would be longer time / lower mileage, and $0 deductible:
7 Years / 75000 Miles, $0 deductible = $ 2,245; Add'l airbag coverage = $114

Any advice regarding advisability of bumper-to-bumper extended warranty (BMW?, Warranty Direct?), extended maintenance program, and tire/wheel insurance (RFTs and staggered wheels) would be greatly appreciated.

Are the costs of the BMW policies within reason, or have better deals been possible?

Thanks in advance.

maril556

Hi,
I'm be back on the market. My 545i lease expires in April.,
Can somebody post current residual and MF values on 335I and 335xi models,
for 24 and 36 m. terms, if possible. I will figure-out the actual payments myself.
Greatly appreciated

blueguydotcom

Yeah, I know. I'm just wondering why he would assume the aux input would control the ipod.

ocautoseeker

Not sure if you wanted coupe or sedan so posted both. You did not specify mileage, so the residuals reflect 15k annual miles. Add 2% for 12k and 3% for 10k.

2008 BMW 335i Coupe
24 – Residual 68% – .00245
36 – Residual 58% – .00245

2008 BMW 335xi Coupe
24 – Residual 68% – .00245
36 – Residual 58% – .00245

2008 BMW 335i Sedan
24 – Residual 71% – .00210
36 – Residual 61% – .00210

2008 BMW 335xi Sedan
24 – Residual 71% – .00210
36 – Residual 61% – .00210

jezmia

Kalamazoo,

what do you think would be the very best lease I could get for this type of car with the options I need? The Edmun's the invoice price is $33,130, this includes a $775 delivery fee. Even if you lease do you still have to pay for this?

one more question, do you have any idea on how dealers calculate sign and drive deals?

thanks!

nyccarguy

The original owners extended warranty is available at a cost of $3,375.00

You'd be better off taking that (almost) $3400 and sticking it in an ING savings account and wait until you need it for out of warranty repairs. If you prefer the piece of mind of an extended warranty or if your vehicle is in for service A LOT during the standard warranty period, you can always purchase an extended warranty from any BMW dealer in the USA for probably less money. It might also be a good idea for you to join the BMWCCA and get some names of good independent mechanics in your area. An independent mechanic charges less than the dealers do for the same work.

The extended maintenance program is also available at a cost of
$1,695.00

I'd offer you the same advice as above. If you plan on keeping your car for a while, I'd also advise to double BMWs scheduled oil change intervals. You pick up the tab on the 7500 miles oil change, BMW pays for it at 15K and so on. Have the transmisson fluid flushed and filled every 2 years as well.

WheelGuard tire and wheel protection:

This is completely unnecessary. The one thing it doesn't cover: You new BMW will come equipped with Run Flat Tires than cannot be fixed (flat or blowout, the tire is toast), so you'll have to replace 2 tires and your tire insurance won't cover the cost of the second tire. You can get tires from the Tire Rack much cheaper than the dealer will sell it to you for. If you crack a rim (doubtful as you live in the south where there are no potholes), you can get a new one from a place like bavarian autosport or one of the many dealers that give BMWCCA discounts (if you join BMWCCA).

Good luck!

drrocket

I am actually a long time member of BMWCCA; I'll be getting the member reward on the 3-series.

Contrary to common belief, there are some potholes in the south, and somehow my car seems to find them. The WheelGuard tire and wheel protection reportedly can be used with any tire dealer; hopefully that includes Tire Rack. Even Tire Rack gets a hefty price for run flats. I have my eye on the Conti SSRs when the Potenzas wear out (or blow out), but I'm somewhat concerned that the Conti SSRs sized for the rear have been on back order at Tire Rack for a while, with no ETA listed. That's disconcerting.

Thanks nyccarguy for your advice.

drrocket

What is covered by the extended maintenance program that they have the audacity to charge such a premium? Judging by the way BMW extended the routine service intervals, it would appear that they don't want to provide a lot of maintenance, or at least, not often. In years past, if you adhered to the current service intervals, it would have voided your warranty!