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Ford Ranger vs Toyota Tacoma



    I am playing with the idea of purchasing a late 93-95 5.0l and putting that into my Ranger. Seems to be a fairly easy conversion from what I hear. All I need is the drivetrain(Engine, Trans, rear end), and probably a specially fabricated driveshaft. Anyways that could all be done for about 3-4k, versus the cost of a brand new truck... :)
  • mjbwrtrmjbwrtr Posts: 172
    i will do that to my truck eventually...keep track of the work on it and post it on the guys will be glad to see it.
  • Well, all you Ranger fans will love this story. I didn't bag a buck this past weekend but I did have one hell of an adventure in the Great North Woods. Our buddy gave us the wrong directions to the hunting camp that we were supposed to be staying at. That is not difficult to do when you consider that where we hunt there are no street signs. Needless to say, we ended up going up a mountain on a very old logging road that had several very large washouts. In fact, we really put my Tacoma to the test. It was bitterly cold and snowing like crazy. Well, eventually we got to a point on this logging road where the mud was so deep that my Tacoma got stuck, and I mean really, truly stuck. The truck was buried in mud up to the top of the fender flares. Needless to say, my buddy and I were a little nervous considering that we were 20 miles into the woods on a dead end logging road at the top of a mountain with no way out and bitter cold temperatures (and it was 9 PM at night). I truly thought we were in for a long night of walking out of the woods. Just when I thought all hope was lost, I saw head lights come around the corner. And, lo and behold, it was a Ford Ranger. Another friend of ours in our hunting party was also given the wrong directions and he followed our tire tracks up the mountain. And, his little Ford Ranger was able to eventually pull us out (it still took about 45 minutes of work to finally get us out of the mud). I will never again bash a Ford Ranger since it was a Ranger that save me from a long, cold night of walking. It seems obvious to me now that both the Tacoma and Ranger are capable off road vehicles.

    It should be noted, however, that the next morning we inspected our vehicles and his Ranger absorbed a lot more damage from the off road experience than my Tacoma. I don't know if that was shear luck or not but again, both trucks were able to make it most of the way up an old mountain logging road that most of you city slickers wouldn't ever dare consider driving on. Take care and I'll see you in the most remote, muddy places on the face of the planet......Steelman.
  • sc0rpi0sc0rpi0 Posts: 897
    Heh....on my very first offroad trip (a week after I bought the truck), I pulled a Ranger out of mud too.
    He got stuck at the entrance to the park where we offroad in San Antonio, in grass. It wasn't even that much mud...more like wet grass and ground. I suspect it was the drivers' fault (While I was trying to pull him out, he had his parking brake on).
  • tbunder1tbunder1 Posts: 257
    got pulled out of a very dicey predicament by a suzuki. anything will get stuck.
    steel, what year and model was the ranger that pulled you out? specs please. engine, tranny, tires, etc.....
  • And kudos to you for sharing it!
  • saddaddysaddaddy Posts: 566
    anything will get stuck, In fact I pulled out a dozer from the mud the other day, didn't even have to lock the rear. Hehehe, I need the high spirits, fluid flow dynamics exam in 6 hours. Yikes!
  • Well this past weekend I finally got my new Tacoma. Reg cab, 2.7L 4, 4x4, bunch of other little goodies I didnt ask for but it had anyways. Beating up the clutch relearning my standard driving, but thats getting better. I absolutely love this truck! I can't believe it but it feels like it has the same power as my old rangers 3L 6. Plus it doesnt ping constantly. The same night I picked it up I also picked up a 10 point buck, I figured that was a sure sign I had made a good choice.
  • tbunder1tbunder1 Posts: 257
    congrats. those little reg. cab tacos are cute. i think the reg. cab truck is the coolest of all of them-ford, gm, toyota, nissan doesn't make a reg. cab 4x4. i think the reg. cab f-150 is way cool in 4x4 off-road trim. i wish to god i had never sold my '97 reg. cab light blue ZR2, but we had a baby coming. little did i know i could've gotten a 60/40 split bench out of a junkyard and did what i did when i had my last ranger. it'd been paid for by now too.
  • saddaddysaddaddy Posts: 566
    And a special congrats on the deer. Were you hunting with a bow? Gun season doesn't open here until the 23rd and i haven't had the time to put into coaxing one into bow range. Congrats, again
  • I almost went with one of the extended cabs. I sat in one and it was great, it was like sitting in a recliner. And that was so tempting cause I have really long legs. But the thought of paying 21 thousand for a pickup was too much. Anyway, with the tilt wheel, I still have more legroom than with my old truck.
    The deer was with a 30-.06, rifle season started here a couple weeks ago.
  • sc0rpi0sc0rpi0 Posts: 897
    On a sidenote, I'm finally lifting my truck, looks like it'll be done this weekend. Putting 2" Old Man Emu (ARB) coils, nitrogen shocks (N91s), and a long add-a-leaf to the rear, so after that I'll be able to clear 32s with no rubbing.
  • saddaddysaddaddy Posts: 566
    If so I got questions.
  • kbtoyskbtoys Posts: 62
    I plan on adding the same lift to my truck. I already add a 1inch body lift and if I add the OME's in front and downey in the rear I should be at about 3.5 inches of lift. I think I should be able to clear 32 no problem. Where did you get you OME stuff at?
  • sc0rpi0sc0rpi0 Posts: 897
    sad: I'm thinking of either putting 32s on when my 31s wear out, or waiting to put a BL on and go with 33s.

    kb: 3.5" Should be plenty to clear 32s on 15x8 rims.
    I got OME from, Jeff Sharpe (he does not list anything on his site, email him directly)
  • kbtoyskbtoys Posts: 62
    If you don't mind. How much did he charge you for the springs and struts? You can e-mail [email protected]
  • sc0rpi0sc0rpi0 Posts: 897
    With shipping it came to $320, 881s and N91s
    A lot of stuff was on backorder (strike-related), but it looks like I've lucked out.
  • smgillessmgilles Posts: 252
    I run 32's what are your questions...?
  • saddaddysaddaddy Posts: 566
    Did you notice any changes at all when you went up a size? Gas mileage, pickup, ability to hold hiway speed, any of that? I want to step up to 32s, but if there is much of a downside, I doubt the extra $$$ will be worth it? What do you think?
  • smgillessmgilles Posts: 252
    I am also supercharged so the increase in tire size was hardly noticeable as far as power is concerned. The same also applies to gas mileage, it did not change at all. If you think about it the stock tires are 265/70/16 and I put on 265/75/16s. I didn't go any wider just taller and I think it handles a lot better with the 32's than it did with the stock 31's. I also put SAWs upfront so that may have something to do with that. I personally don't think there is any downside to running that size tire. I think you would be pleased with the look and the overall performance off-road, especially with a half-way aggressive tire.
  • Today I woke up and was about to hop in the truck to goto work, and found my drivers side door a little ajar. Opened the door to find my dash in pieces, my alpine cd player missing, a 400W amplifier ripped out,my steering column dismantled, and my automatic shifter seriously bent out of shape. Lost just under 1000 bucks in stereo equipment, and about 400-500 dollars in damage. They got through a window I had cracked (I have window vent covers) and somehow used the inside door handle to open the door.

    Funny they left the MTX 250W subwoofer amp, and MTX 10" Sub mounted in a pickup box.

    Looks like I'll be purchasing a new Edge this week, but like I said earlier, I will weight in all the makes and models out there...
  • eagle63eagle63 Posts: 599
    that sucks man. I've had my Explorer broken into twice. First time they got the golf clubs, 2nd time it was the CD Deck and subwoofer box. I feel your pain!
  • tbunder1tbunder1 Posts: 257
    sorry to hear man. i feel your pain though, as my first ZR2 reg. cab got busted into through a shattered driver side window. i lost a punch 200 rockford amp, two kicker 8's, enclosure, panasonic deck cd player, and most hurtful of all, two cd cases- that's personal. this happened at a government run facility where my wife works which has federal police officers patrolling round the clock.

    at least you're getting a new edge. i really miss my ranger. i saw a totally awesome FX4 level II in white lastnight driving. it was probably the coolest stock truck i've ever laid eyes on. the level II's say it below the fx4 moniker.

    are you going for 4x4? i think one can be had pretty cheap. you may want an ext. cab, as the extra room is awesome and will pay for itself in the long run. good luck and keep us posted.
  • stereo equipment is a waste - when it's in your car, that is. I wouldn't mind replacing my stock speakers with some high-quality drop-ins and a small amp - just something loud and clear enough to be heard over the road/wind noise when my windows are down. I don't want anything that advertises its presence to thieves.

    Coincidentally, I find it ironic that after all the ribbing around here about where I live most of the time, I'm one of the few that haven't experienced a break-in...

    Speaking of stereo equipment, any of you guys know anything about the Onkyo HTS-650 home theatre system? I might buy one before X-mas.
  • kbtoyskbtoys Posts: 62
    Stang that just blows I have had my truck broken in and after I got it back from the body shop it just did not feel the same. I felt so violated. Sold the truck 3 months later. Also I don't know how you feel about alarms but after that my new truck I had in alarm put in and I know of two times someone has tried to brake in my truck. First time is when it went off and I looked out the window and saw some people jump in there car and drive off. Second time is when I was leaving to go to work in the morning and noticed my door handle. Someone the night before tried to pop my door handle off and from the looks just about had the handle off. I assume the alarm scared them away because it would have only taked about 10 seconds to pop it all the way off. Just some food for thought.

    Off the subject I learned something new this week. Toyota made a Hemi in Japan. Now only if the American Toyota's had a Hemi.
  • saddaddysaddaddy Posts: 566
    I want to just replace my stock speakers and wanted some input. 3-way or 2-way? Also, how much would I have to spend to get decent improvement over stock speakers. To me the stockers in Tacomas sound pretty good, but everyone I hear of that knows about sound says that Tacos suck as far as factory sound. What do you think man? I want to keep it below $150; could I get decent improvement after only spending that much, or will my ears only notice it if I spend much more? Thanx a bunch man!
  • I replaced the stock 5x7's in my 02 Tacoma when I bought the truck. The stockers are a single paper cone, and I couldn't hear voices very well(I listen to AM mostly). I had Alpine 2-way's installed and kept the stock tweeters connected in the doors. For $150.00, you could replace the front speakers only. When I replaced the rears(about a week later), it didn't make as much difference as the front replacement.
  • kbtoyskbtoys Posts: 62
    I don't think there is a big differnce between 2-ways and 3-ways. My advice is got to a place like best buy and listen to the speakers till you find the ones that you think sound good. Then found the model of the ones you think are good and look for them on the internet for them. Also I know some people that will replace the front speakers and use the stock front speakers to replace the rear speakers. The rear speakers have a filter on them which I don't understand why they do.
  • Could be a passive crossover. It filters the input signal into a more preferable frequency for the speakers. (I.E. Small tweaters receive only high's, and larger speakers receive the lows) Crossovers are needed when the same channel from the stereo drives very different types of speakers. 3-way vs 2-way is just two ways to skin a cat. Overall 3-ways would produce a more even sound through the frequency spectrum. The extra way is just another element in the speaker for production of a different range of frequencies. But a good quality 2-way can still out perform a moderate 3-way.

    Best way to start is to figure out the peak # of watts per channel your current radio puts out. Stock radios are generally pretty weak, and even new speakers won't operate to their fullest. Plan on speakers that exceed this rating (but not by much). Find out the dimensions of the speakers you have now, and then you have a list. The optimal way is to get an aftermarket head unit (stereo) with RCA outputs (4 channels + 2 for subwoofer if applicable). Run RCA cables to an amplifier (2 if adding a subwoofer) and have the amplifier drive the speakers. Then you have to be sure that the speakers can take the amplifier power per channel. Typically 40-50 watts is better than factory, 80-100 watts is REALLY loud. But again wattage rating still doesn't equal sound quality.

    You should also consider upgrading speaker wires as well. Stock wires are typically high resistance, with little or no shielding.
  • lariat1lariat1 Posts: 461
    I recommend going to crutchfield and looking at what they have. I bought a pair of JBL 2 way 6.5" drivers and a set of 6.5" component drivers for my Ram and I paid $160 for the package it came with the wiring harness for my truck, the adapter plates to mount the speakers and instructions for installation including removing the door panels. I ordered them on a monday and had them in my fat little hand on thursday and I live in Alaska. The only thing I would do different is get the bass blockers, they are a high pass crossover that filters out frequncies below 100Hz. Anything under 100Hz should be sent to a subwoofer for accurate reproduction.
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