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Never did this before so bear with me if my posting ability isn't up to forum standards. (What can you expect from an old "ground pounder")
I have to admit being a little concerned after reading all the other posts reporting problems! Almost wondering whether posting this will JINX me! Knock wood it won't!
Have been running a 2003 Murano since June of that year. Have 41K plus miles on it. In city driving, stop & go, I'm getting 18.5 mpg on regular gas - when I take the trip down to Charleston SC and my Beloved Citadel, I get over 20 mpg. And boy, that CVT is a powerhouse! Best pick-up of any of my trucks or other vehicles. (Takes a while getting used to NOT feeling your transmission shifting up and down the gears. I love it!) Still running on the first set of tires. Had the brakes done around 30K.
I'm a big guy. 6'4+" 275lbs., so I'm bigger than your average bear and comfort is critical to these 54 year old bones! The "ride" inside is comfortable and more relaxing than any other vehicle I've ever owned. I get out down in Charleston feeling no aches or pains, whereas with my Grand Cherokee or even my huge Chevy Silverado I felt like I'd been through the war again! The BOSE sound system works great - except for an intermittant skipping problem. The skipping stopped after I cleaned out the CD unit.
Those heated seats work wonders in cold NW "New Joisey." Snow driving is a dream in the Murano, only better car was my old Jeep Cherokee that could scamper up off-road tracks around Elk Mountain PA. like they weren't even there. (But then again my Cherokee didn't have the style and pizazze of the Murano!) But the Murano has taken me up the mountains and around stuck vehicles and trucks since I've had it. Haven't been stuck once.
My ONLY problem is that neither my mechanic nor I can figure out what's causing the noise in the front end of the vehicle ONLY when I make a "moving" right hand turn. Doesn't occur when I turn after being stopped. Last week I thought it was fixed when my ace mechanic adjusted my stabilizer bar. Stopped it for a day - but now it came back. It sounds like a "rubbing" caused by the weight shift when I turn right while moving. After the turn, it's silence as usual.
Any ideas or suggestions from Forum readers would be appreciated.
Regards,
bigeasy51
At the time I bought the car, my husband pressured me to buy it over the Lexus RX330. I have regretted my decision since the engine replacement (dealer kept the car 6 weeks and gave me a Kia Rio to drive).
Here's my dilemma - I have someone who wants to buy the car, for $27K including tires and warranty.
I don't think the Murano is a reliable car anymore. I think I would be happier with an equivalent RX330 and the great customer service I hear you get at Lexus.
Does anyone have any thoughts or advice for me? I need to decide soon. Thanks!
sierralady
sierralady
As I have posted before, I will be right here straight-honest when the Murano turns on me...I am on a 36 mo. lease, 14 months into it. If when 36 comes, and the Murano has proven as reliable as my 01 Pathfinder, I would buy it, maybe. However, no matter what modern car you buy in 2006...down the line, repairs are huge dollar amounts...a simple window motor goes to about $800 in a Honda, Lexus, Nissan...near $1,000 for an Audi or BMW. With complexity like they all have, extending a warranty on even a "loyal" vehicle makes sense. My 01 Audi blew its turbocharger in warranty at 6,000 miles. Out of warranty...try $5,000 dollars and a couple weeks in a KIA.
On that note...KIA makes a Murano look-alike...inexpensive and comes with 10 year/100,000 mile warranty. At some point, those Koreans will bankrupt GM and Ford. And, watch your local dealer for the Chinese "Chery" coming soon...starting at about $7,000 with warranty. Don't laugh...they laughed at Datsun, Toyota and Hyundai/Kia....
Lisa..go to your dealer and get the TPS fixed. Tell them you can get killed and your kids with you. Put that part in writing, describing your incident and your subsequent dealer "fixes"...you can tell them you read the posts on Edmunds.com...most dealerships are very aware of this real force. In legal terms, telling them in writing that there is a problem, is called: "Proximate liability". Once warned, if it happens again and someone is hurt, you have them dead in the water. As a cardiac surgeon, I am very familiar with this concept, in pump technology, in nursing instrumentation and in simple things like slippery floors. It makes sense and it will push them. Post again on what happens. I apologize for being long on this post, but the disasters described and the frustrations some owners are having really disturb me...particularly the often-cited dealer ignorance and unconcern. In my business, like theirs, diagnosis is crucial to a good result.
John B from Twain Harte, CA
I'm curious about other Murano owners transmission maintenance experiences. The thing I really hate about Nissan is they make the customer think their "suggested Maintenance and check up" schedule is necessary and mandatory. I haven't done anything but change the oil and get my alternator recall taken care of and my car is fine. Sometimes I think when you follow these ridiculous maintenance schedules and let some green mechanic tinker with your new car every 7.5k miles you are just asking for problems. Not to mention the $300.00 to $600.00 they charge to look your car over. My brakes were squeaking and they ended up re-surfacing my front rotors. it was a warranty issue. Then I looked at the suggested maintenance list and "adjust brakes", "transmission service" all that stuff is on there. It's under warranty, you shouldn't have to pay the dealer to take care of these things. Jump in with your thoughts on this matter, I would love to hear other opinions. I won't buy another Nissan but as long as my Murano keeps cruising along I like it.
Side comment. These boards can scare the stuff out of you if you take it too serious. Sure cars have troubles, but my 03 has 44k & has run very well. Consumer Reports still rates this car as a recommended buy, new or used. My service rep says they have only replaced 1 trans & 2 throttle sensors, the 2 most commented on items on this site. The trans was changed because the wrong oil was put in it. I have posted a warning label next to my dip stick stating that this trans uses CVT oil only.
I made about 7 phone calls and two dealers were good enough to provide me those information.
According to the recall, DEFECT:On certain vehicles,due to the location of the forward edge of the fuel tank,in the event that a vehicle front tire runs over a small, sharp object in the road, catches it and propels it towards the rear of the vehicle, it may strike and puncture the fuel tank.
CONSEQUENCE: A punctured tank could increase the risk of a fire.
REMEDY: Dealers will install protectors in front of the tank free of charge.
"Suggested Maintenance." A friend of mine
is in the auto parts distributorship. He
always tells me not to have any work done
at the dealership, that they're there to
make a profit. I have followed his advice
and gone to independent shops that he knows
and is familiar with their workmanship. And
I have saved money on work such as brake work
and small stuff. I drive a 2002 Nissan Maxima
and all I've done in four years is had the oil
changed every 3,000 miles, one set of tires
and front brakes done. Car has 56,000 miles.
On fluid for timbo04 and easym1: as you know, the dipstick is purposely difficult to remove to discourage adding STP, conventional ATF or just plain oil. The CVT is NOT sealed as some posts have indicated,and is/can be checked as to fluid level/burning, etc. In the Service and Maintenance Guide you can look up CVT change intervals. There are 3 levels of service: Premium: CVT is changed every 30,000 miles. Schedule 1: never mentioned
Schedule 2:(barebones)never mentioned...except that in both, it should be "Inspected" and footnote #4: "changed if towing trailer, camper or cartop, or rough/muddy roads." This at 30, 60, 90 (like Premium). So, you pick it...seems like it probably shouldn't go 100,000, and probably not over 60,000. (Most vehicles change ATF at 30s.) As in, never a rough or muddy road? Seems to me, if changing at 30K would prevent even a 5% chance of CVT failure, it would be worth it. I didn't ask how much it takes or how much it costs...sorry.
The in-cabin microfilter...easy to change for them...tough for a doityourselfer...Took them fifteen minutes...got to remove the under-glove box panel to get at it...$29.95. It was original and was dirty and had our beloved dog's hair in it along with California freeway dust and fur. Make sure they do this every 15K.
Finally, the fuel tank thing mentioned by platinumbird1 is beautiful: how many thousands of cars are out there that could throw a nail or rock from the front tire to hit the tank...? a million? Somebody must have done that with a Nissan, and bingo...recall. Frankly, I will take my chances on that one...seems less than being rear-ended in the Great Valley by an illegal without a license or insurance. That really hurts the tank way more.
Total drive off for Premium 15,000: $272.79. OK, not cheap, but the car cost $35,000 and this is 0.7% of that cost..and is only every 15,000...which for me is once a year. In between, there are three changes...any or all of which can be Jiffy Lube ("leave the ATF stick alone, please) for $29.95 or the dealer whom I trust for $39.95.
Still love the car...hey, I touch the button and keep the keys in my pocket; I can adjust the headlights higher or lower; in deep Yosemite snow, it performs like it has chains on; on ice, the VDC package really senses which tire is not driving in a flash; the seats heat up and I am getting 23 highway. And, I am lucky...our service place is smart and competant.
Promise: if it turns on me, I'll tell you. Not yet.
John B. Twain Harte, CA
My question is, does anyone know how to make the new 06 taillight work on older Murano (03-05) models?
NHTSA Recall Campaign Number: 06V054000
Component: FUEL SYSTEM, GASOLINE:STORAGE:TANK ASSEMBLY
Details: ON CERTAIN SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES, A FITTING FOR VAPOR RECIRCULATION, WHICH IS WELDED ON THE FUEL TANK, MAY COME OFF THE FUEL TANK BECAUSE INCORRECT MATERIAL WAS USED.
Consequence: THIS COULD RESULT IN THE MALFUNCTION INDICATOR LIGHT IN THE INSTRUMENT PANEL COMING ON AND MAY RESULT IN SOME FUEL LEAKAGE. FUEL LEAKAGE, IN THE PRESENCE OF AN IGNITION SOURCE, COULD RESULT IN A FIRE.
Corrective Action: DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE FUEL TANK WITH A NEW ONE FREE OF CHARGE. THE RECALL IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN ON MARCH 21, 2006. OWNERS MAY CONTACT NISSAN AT 1-800-647-7261.
Units Potentially Affected: 14268
Recall Initiated By: MFR
Date added to NHTSA datbase: 02/22/2006
Internal use: 2/22/2006
In addition there is another recall affecting the rear seatbelts:
NHTSA Recall Campaign Number: 06V048000
Component: SEAT BELTS:REAR
Details: ON SOME SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES, IN CERTAIN HIGH SPEED FRONTAL CRASHES, THE WEBBING OF A REAR OUTBOARD SEAT BELT MAY CONTACT THE REAR SEAT BACK HINGE WHERE IT CAN BE CUT BY THE SHARP EDGE OF THE METAL PORTION OF THE HINGE.
Consequence: IF THE WEBBING IS COMPLETELY SEPARATED, IT CAN INCREASE THE RISK OF INJURY TO AN OCCUPANT IN A CRASH.
Corrective Action: DEALERS WILL INSTALL PROTECTORS OVER THE WEBBING OF THE REAR SEAT BELTS. THE RECALL IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN ON MARCH 21, 2006. OWNERS MAY CONTACT NISSAN AT 1-800-647-7261.
Units Potentially Affected: 203000
Recall Initiated By: MFR
Date added to NHTSA datbase: 02/14/2006
Internal use: 2/14/2006
I've been to the Nissan website but these two recalls are not listed.
I wish they would post which VIN numbers are involved in these recalls so we can know if our vehicles are affected. When I called Nissan last summer about the alternator recall I got someone who barely spoke English and I wasn't sure she even understood why I was calling. I gave her my VIN number but her assurance that my car didn't fall under the recall was not comforting. I had to check with a local dealer to be sure.
I phoned several dealers in my area and they gave me different and confusing answers. One dealer quoted me $267.78 Canadian for each tail lights plus our $15% tax. I would like to know if they are really compatible before I pay for that price.
The Murano has been out for over three years (going into fourth) and has had only these four recalls. Many other cars have had more or should have. You often see the Lexus RX330 given rave reviews but if you study their complaint lists, bulletins and investigations you will find a startling number of people who are not happy with their RX330.
For instance for the 04-05 years, the Lexus has had 143 official complaints, 2 recalls, 34 service bulletins and 6 investigations (none of which were addressed by recalls or bulletins). Many people have complained of brake booster failure, transmission problems and poor headlight visibility. These have not been addressed by Lexus.
For 04-05, the Murano had 98 complaints, 4 recalls, 24 service bulletins and 6 investigations (all related to the alternator failure and the gas tank protection problem). So you see Nissan has acted on the problems where Lexus seems to be reluctant to admit there are difficulties which could possibly indicate a recall is necessary. They prefer to try to deal with the situation on a case by case basis and keep it relatively quiet.
I've had my Murano for not quite a year and have had absolutely zero problems aside from almost locking myself out (knock, knock... you never know ). About the only difficulty I have is parking in some tight spots since I came from a much smaller car. But that's my problem not Nissan's. :-)
I will say that the dealer from whom I purchased the car is so screwed up administratively that I didn't want to take it to them for service so I went to another local dealer and received good treatment so they will do my warrantee work.
I contacted a Nissan Dealership in Richardson Texas (Courtesy Nissan) who had 06 LED taillight replacements and ask if they would work on the 04 Murano. I was told that they had installed the LEDs on an older Murano and the lights burned very dim. So, they do not work according to Courtesy Nissan. They could have sold me a set but they didn't. I think that's honesty. See my posting on this site 13 March, a little earlier than yours. If you find a way to make them compatible with the older Murano, please let me know thru this site and I will do the same for you.
Take Care
SilverMurano
I'm glad we have this kind of forum. Nissan will benefit the most if they would only pay attention to our concerns...the consumer.
Anyone had this problem or have any thoughts on what it could be?
Toyota Motor Company may not be the most reliable out there- but they definitely know how to make a very competent car without the fear of being stranded on the highway. Any car that has a history of leaving motorists on the side of the road is scary. I wouldn't want my wife or mother driving one of these cars from the hospital being on call till 2am then have them stranded in a less than perfect neighborhood while help arrives.
Nissan and Goshn (sp) has made a remarkable turn around in product line up- very dynamic products done very smart- huge amounts of platform sharing and one engine for 60% of Infiniti and Nissan lineup (awesome 3.5 engine nevertheless). However quality control comes at the cost of development cost and more time spent "at the drawing board." Even with the quality problems nissan has it is still profitable due to their dynamic styling. I expect Nissan quality to get back to 80's and early 90's standards once the corporate move away from California takes place.
I applaud the few owners out there that stand by their cars while most everyone else complains and contemplates selling- but truth be told- the Murano is primarily bought for the styling not for Lexus like dependability (JD POWER) and attractive affordability and incentives. Cheers to a nice car and good luck with all the problems!
AKA1
CONSUMER COMPLAINT: ODI Case Number: 10122016
Component: SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC
Details: ON JANUARY 17, 2005 I WAS INVOLVED IN AN AUTOMOBILE ACCIDENT IN MY 2004 LEXUS RX330. THIS ACCIDENT OCCURRED LESS THAN 1 MILE FROM MY HOME, ON MY OWN STREET, 1-2 MINUTES AFTER LEAVING MY HOME. IT HAD SNOWED THE NIGHT BEFORE AND THE ROADWAY WAS STILL SNOW/ICE COVERED, IT WAS A FRIGID MORNING. I WAS TRAVELING APPROXIMATELY 15 MILES PER HOUR AND THE VEHICLE BRAKES FAILED TO ENGAGE. I ATTEMPTED TO PUSH THE BRAKE PETAL TO THE FLOOR WITHOUT RESULT. THE ANTI-LOCK BRAKES DID NOT FUNCTION. THE DAMAGE TO THIS VEHICLE EXCEEDED $8000. DAYS AFTER THE DAMAGE TO THE VEHICLE WAS FIXED MY HUSBAND TOOK THE VEHICLE TO THE LEXUS OF TOWSON DEALERSHIP TO HAVE THE BRAKING MECHANISM LOOKED AT. DURING THE DRIVE TO THE DEALERSHIP (IN SIMILAR, SNOW COVERED/FRIGID CONDITIONS) MY HUSBAND WAS ABLE TO REPRODUCE THIS PROBLEM, AGAIN JUST AFTER LEAVING OUR HOME. THE DEALERSHIP (A 40 MINUTE DRIVE FROM OUR HOME) WAS UNABLE TO REPRODUCE THIS PROBLEM AND TOLD US TO CALL BACK IF THE PROBLEM OCCURRED AGAIN. TODAY, MAY 24, 2005, WE WERE INFORMED DURING A ROUTINE OIL CHANGE THAT THERE MAY BE A PROBLEM WTH THE BRAKES AND THAT A CAMPAIGN WAS UNDERWAY TO INVESTIGATE. I WANTED TO FORMALLY ADD MY VEHICLE TO THIS LIST OF COMPAINTS.
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CONSUMER COMPLAINT: ODI Case Number: 10144183
Component: POWER TRAIN:AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
Details: THE AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION HAS A LAG IN IT AT LOW SPEEDS. THIS IS APPARENT WHEN RELEASING THE ACCELERATOR TO SLOW DOWN AND THEN ACCELERATING AGAIN. IN THIS SITUATION THE TRANSMISSION DOES ON ENGAGE OR IT LAGS CAUSING AN UNSAFE CONDITION BY ITS UNPREDICTABLE BEHAVIOR. THIS SITUATION HAPPENS ON A FREQUENT BASIS. I HAVE SEEN MANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT THIS TRANSMISSION PROBLEM. IS NHTSA GOING TO HOLD LEXUS ACCOUNTABLE FOR PUTTING A DEFECTIVE TRANSMISSION ON THE ROAD? I HAVE READ THAT LEXUS' REPEATED REPLY IS TO STATE THIS BEHAVIOR IS NORMAL. LEXUS CAN NOT WIN THIS ARGUMENT ON REPETITION, IT IS DEFECTIVE. IF THIS LAG IS *NORMAL* WHY DIDN'T LEXUS DESIGN THIS NICE LAG INTO ALL OF THEIR CARS? I'M SURE THIS WOULD BE A FEATURE THEY WOULD WANT TO RUN AN AD CAMPAIGN ON. *JB
Cause:
Result:
Occurrences: 20
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CONSUMER COMPLAINT: ODI Case Number: 10100372
Component: POWER TRAIN:AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
Details: TOYOTA/LEXUS NEEDS TO ADDRESS THEIR POWER TRAIN PROBLEM ON THE 2004 RX 330 INSTEAD OF SEEMINGLY IGNORING IT. THE REPROGRAMMING DOES NOT WORK. I'VE HAD IT DONE. SEEMED TO BE A BAND AID FIX FOR A MAJOR PROBLEM. WILL IT HAVE TO BE A DEATH BEFORE THEY RECALL THESE LOUSY TRANSMISSIONS. I HAVE BEEN IN SEVERAL NEAR MISS SITUATIONS BECAUSE OF THIS AWFUL TRANSMISSION SINCE PURCHASING THIS SUV BRAND NEW APRIL 15, 2003. AND AFTER PAYING CASH ($45,000) FOR THEIR SUPPOSED GREAT PRODUCT I WANT TO SUE FOR MY MONEY BACK. THE LAG BETWEEN GEARS, THE HIGH REVS BEFORE GETTING INTO A GEAR IS UTTERLY INSANE. CAN YOU SAY RECALLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*JB
Cause:
Result:
Occurrences: 100
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CONSUMER COMPLAINT: ODI Case Number: 10113045
Component: SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC
Details: VEHICLE HAS EXPERIENCED 2 TOTAL BRAKE FAILURES. WHEN APPLYING THE BRAKES , THE VEHICLE FAILED TO STOP. THE PEDAL WENT DOWN TO THE FLOOR. OWNER TOWED THE VEHICLE BACK TO THE DEALER AND HAD THE VEHICLE SERVICED AFTER BEING THERE FOR 10 DAYS. APPROXIMATELY 30 DAYS LATER THIS PROBLEM RE-OCCURRED. OWNER HAD THE BRAKE ACTUATOR ASSEMBLY AND PADS REPLACED. PROBLEM STILL OCCURS. *NM *NM
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CONSUMER COMPLAINT: ODI Case Number: 10104803
Component: EXTERIOR LIGHTING:HEADLIGHTS
Details: CAR IS A 2004 LEXUS RX330. IT HAS HID HEADLIGHTS. THESE ARE THE WORST HEADLIGHTS I HAVE EVER HAD ON A CAR. THEY ONLY LIGHT UP ROAD A VERY SHORT DISTANCE. ESPECIALLY ON THE DRIVERS SIDE. BROUGHT IT BACK TO THE DEALER. THEY SAID THERE IS NOTHING THEY CAN DO. THATS THE WAY THEY WERE MADE. THIS IS A REAL SAFTEY ISSUE. I NEVER WOULD OF BOUGHT THIS CAR IF I NEW THIS.*AK
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CONSUMER COMPLAINT: ODI Case Number: 10133137
Component: POWER TRAIN:AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION:CONTROL MODULE (TCM, PCM)
Details: 2004 LEXUS RX-330 AWD. VEHICLE HESITATES WHEN ATTEMPTING TO ACCELERATE. THERE IS A DELAY, ESPECIALLY WHEN GOING FROM A DEAD STOP SUCH AS PULLING OUT INTO TRAFFIC. ALSO, IF YOU ATTEMPT TO QUICKLY SPEED UP AS WHEN MERGING OR AN EVASIVE MANEUVER, THE ENGINE LAGS. WILL ALSO HAPPEN WHEN TURNING A CORNER, THEN ACCELERATING. I HAVE BEEN TOLD BY LEXUS THAT THIS IS A KNOWN PROBLEM WITH THE "THROTTLE BY WIRE" AND "INTELLIGENT TRANSMISSION". I CURRENTLY PULL THE ECU FUSE MONTHLY TO RESET THE PROCESSORS AND THAT APPEARS TO HELP FOR A WHILE. THAT IS THE "FIX" SUGGESTED BY THE LEXUS RX-330 FORUMS. NOW THAT 2006 MODELS ARE COMING, I KNOW THIS IS NO LONGER ON THE LEXUS ENGINEERS' MINDS, BUT THERE ARE THOSE OF US THAT FEEL THIS IS A SAFETY ISSUE AS YOU NEVER KNOW IF THE CAR WILL RESPOND RELIABLY, ESPECIALLY WHEN PULLING INTO TRAFFIC, CREATING A REAL HAZARD. *JB
Cause:
Result:
Occurrences: 50
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None of these problems have resulted in a recall by Lexus despite repeated complaints and have been continuous topics on Lexus forums for two years. When I was in the market for a new car last year it was these serious situations that made me afraid to purchase the 330, as well as the attitude encountered by many owners at their dealerships.
Again- Nissan makes very dynamic vehicles, best wishes with yours.
AKA1
I've read all your posts about TPS failure. I have an 04 Murano and I love it, except for the fact that I've almost had 3 accidents in it because it wouldn't accelerate. My Nissan service dept replaced the alternator(recall), then a month later it happened again. They reprogrammed the computer and told me it wouldn't happen again. A month later, it did it again and they replaced the throttle body, part# DAT 16119-8J103 and the throttle gasket, DAT 16175-AR000. This was last Monday and it hasn't happened again. However, I'm afraid to drive it because I don't trust it. My question to you is this, is the Throttle position sensor you've mentioned in your posts the same as the throttle body and/or gasket?
My car is in service again because two days after they replaced the throttle body, my battery died. It's corroded. Also, my car is leaking oil. It should be ready by Monday. I'm very aggravated at the service dept. because how do they not notice the corroded battery and oil leaking when they were servicing it 2 days earlier.
I appreciate it your input.
Thanks,
Susan ???:lemon:???
The TPS "unit" which foreman Bill at Central Valley Nissan showed me was aluminum, complicated looking and as big as a large loaf of bread. It came from somewhere under the hood...I got out the service invoice 9-26-05
part# 16119-8J103 "Chamber Assembly"...in the hand-written note was: "TP Sensor is bined open. Replaced sensor, test drove, check engine light off. Ok at this time." Not sure the tech could spell, but bined must mean for us folks...stuck. (as in past tense of "bound")...anyway, it was 4,300 miles, under warranty. The metal thing and labor could have been brutal otherwise.
Hope this helps.
Yep, the Highlander sure is a good vehicle, but I still love our Murano, which other than TPS is bulletproof at 15K
I don't think Highlander is a fair comparison to Murano...
Lexus RX or the Infiniti (Nissan)"murano" that's OK...
better to stack Highlander with Pathfinder...
Back to service...they used to call them "greasemonkeys" in my day...today, they have to be electronic engineers, and unfortunately, once again, as in my work, correct diagnosis makes for better repairs and happy customers. Hope you can get yours right. JB
Thanks again for all of your posts, they really helped me figure out my problem.
Susan
If anyone knows.
Let us know.
Right after this post, I am going over to look at KIA Sportage fixes page...a definite Murano copycat...and see how it is doing. I drove one, found it trucklike, the V-6 was 14city and 18 highway...but the 10 year/100,000 mile warranty will put KIA out front if they can perform.
JB
I suggest turning off your CAPS LOCK. People tend to ignore messages with ALL CAPS.
tidester, host
And you are correct, there is no reason why you shouldn't expect a 3 year old car to give you trouble free miles, no matter how small the problems- My 99 Acura CL has never been to the dealer unexpectedly or for anything other than oil changes. I wouldn't mind occasional problems as long as they fixed it right the first time.
Good Luck AKA1