2015 Toyota Tundra Crewmax Limited lease

lhaymondlhaymond Member Posts: 13
edited March 2015 in Toyota
Can you help me with the money rate and residual on a 2015 crewmax limited? I'm getting a crazy payment figure of $750 per month-can't make sense of that?! Thanks

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  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 206,217
    lhaymond said:

    Can you help me with the money rate and residual on a 2015 crewmax limited? I'm getting a crazy payment figure of $750 per month-can't make sense of that?! Thanks

    We need a bit more information in order to help you ....

    Where are you located?
    What lease term and how many miles per year are you looking for?
    Do you know the MSRP and the negotiated price of the truck?
    Is there a trade in involved?
    4x4 or 4x2?

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  • lhaymondlhaymond Member Posts: 13
    Atlanta 36/12 or 48/12 they are using an MSRP of 48k
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 206,217
    lhaymond said:

    Atlanta 36/12 or 48/12 they are using an MSRP of 48k

    Well ... in Georgia, the entire selling price is subject to an "ad valorem" tax of 6.75%, so that hurts your lease payments right there. Most states only tax the monthly payment.

    I'll assume 4x2 ... 36/12 residual is 61% and the 48/12 residual is 52%.

    I don't have a 48 month money factor, but for 36 months it's either .00188 or .00199 ($0 down).

    We would still need to know the selling price to model a payment.

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  • lhaymondlhaymond Member Posts: 13
    Thanks for the help Michael!
    I now have a deal in the works - MSRP $44077 offered at $40607
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 206,217
    lhaymond said:
    Thanks for the help Michael! I now have a deal in the works - MSRP $44077 offered at $40607
    $492.28 pre-tax for 36/12.  Remember the entire selling price is subject to sales tax in Georgia. 

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  • johnd25johnd25 Member Posts: 7
    What are the June numbers for 24/10 and 36/10? Thank you. 
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 206,217
    johnd25 said:

    What are the June numbers for 24/10 and 36/10? Thank you. 

    4x2 or 4x4? What state is this?

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  • johnd25johnd25 Member Posts: 7
    4x4, WA
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 206,217
    johnd25 said:

    What are the June numbers for 24/10 and 36/10? Thank you. 

    johnd25 said:

    4x4, WA

    24/10 - 72%

    36/10 - 63%

    .00125 MF

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  • eb10eb10 Member Posts: 1
    Can you provide the 36.12 sr5 4x4 numbers for pa?
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 206,217
    eb10 said:

    Can you provide the 36.12 sr5 4x4 numbers for pa?

    64% and .00125

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  • leatherman1leatherman1 Member Posts: 2
    Can you provide the MF and residual for 24/10, 36/10 & 24/12, 36/12 for an SR5 4x2 4.6L Double Cab and Crewmax in Mississippi? I am trying to figure out what is the best option. I was quoted $458 for 36/12 based on $41,200 msrp and $35900 advertised selling price with $3K down for SR5 Crewmax 4x2 4.6L with TSS package and I thought it seemed high. Thanks
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 207,825

    Can you provide the MF and residual for 24/10, 36/10 & 24/12, 36/12 for an SR5 4x2 4.6L Double Cab and Crewmax in Mississippi? I am trying to figure out what is the best option. I was quoted $458 for 36/12 based on $41,200 msrp and $35900 advertised selling price with $3K down for SR5 Crewmax 4x2 4.6L with TSS package and I thought it seemed high. Thanks

    .00188 MF and 64% residual for 36mo, 12K/yr. 73% for 24mo, 12K/yr.

    I don't show SETF offering 10K/yr. Above numbers are for either model.

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  • lucyredlucyred Member Posts: 95
    Hi, can you give me the residual and money factor for a 2015 tundra limited in NY. 3 years 12,000 miles per year. 4X4. THanks
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    lucyred said:

    Hi, can you give me the residual and money factor for a 2015 tundra limited in NY. 3 years 12,000 miles per year. 4X4. THanks

    Which cab style, just to confirm?

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  • lucyredlucyred Member Posts: 95
    The crewmax short bed limited.
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    lucyred said:

    Hi, can you give me the residual and money factor for a 2015 tundra limited in NY. 3 years 12,000 miles per year. 4X4. THanks

    lucyred said:

    The crewmax short bed limited.

    62% and .00140

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  • jcw5020jcw5020 Member Posts: 3
    Can someone help me? I can't figure out how the dealer is getting the lease payment they are for a 3yr/36k. I am looking at a 2015 Tundra Crew Cab Limited 4x4 (MSRP - 45,500). The dealer stated that the sale price would be 42,567.

    The Residual they quoted was 64% meaning the the price at the end of the lease would be 29,120 (45,500 * .64)
    The money factor was quoted for August 2015 as .00110
    My county tax is 10% per month.

    So I have the following:

    42,567 - 29,120 = 13,447
    13,447 / 36 = 373.5278
    42,567 + 29,120 = 74,620
    74,620 * .00110 = 82.082

    So I have 373.5278 + 82.082 = 455.6098 * (.10) = 45.56

    For a total of 455.6098 + 45.56 = 501.17/ month with 0 down.

    The dealer is quoting me at 569/month with 0 down. Am I missing something? What could possibly cause the payment to be 70 off?

    Any help would be appreciated!
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 206,217
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    jcw5020 said:

    Can someone help me? I can't figure out how the dealer is getting the lease payment they are for a 3yr/36k. I am looking at a 2015 Tundra Crew Cab Limited 4x4 (MSRP - 45,500). The dealer stated that the sale price would be 42,567.

    The Residual they quoted was 64% meaning the the price at the end of the lease would be 29,120 (45,500 * .64)
    The money factor was quoted for August 2015 as .00110
    My county tax is 10% per month.

    So I have the following:

    42,567 - 29,120 = 13,447
    13,447 / 36 = 373.5278
    42,567 + 29,120 = 74,620
    74,620 * .00110 = 82.082

    So I have 373.5278 + 82.082 = 455.6098 * (.10) = 45.56

    For a total of 455.6098 + 45.56 = 501.17/ month with 0 down.

    The dealer is quoting me at 569/month with 0 down. Am I missing something? What could possibly cause the payment to be 70 off?

    Any help would be appreciated!

    Using your numbers, I get $497.62/mo with tax. Pretty close to your calculations and nowhere near the dealer quote.

    Ask the dealer what the net cap cost is .. I suspect there are fees being added into the selling price that accounts for the difference. Make sure you understand what those costs are.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 207,825
    Acquisition fee? Registration/title/document fees? GAP insurance?

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  • jcw5020jcw5020 Member Posts: 3
    Michaell said:

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    jcw5020 said:

    Can someone help me? I can't figure out how the dealer is getting the lease payment they are for a 3yr/36k. I am looking at a 2015 Tundra Crew Cab Limited 4x4 (MSRP - 45,500). The dealer stated that the sale price would be 42,567.

    The Residual they quoted was 64% meaning the the price at the end of the lease would be 29,120 (45,500 * .64)
    The money factor was quoted for August 2015 as .00110
    My county tax is 10% per month.

    So I have the following:

    42,567 - 29,120 = 13,447
    13,447 / 36 = 373.5278
    42,567 + 29,120 = 74,620
    74,620 * .00110 = 82.082

    So I have 373.5278 + 82.082 = 455.6098 * (.10) = 45.56

    For a total of 455.6098 + 45.56 = 501.17/ month with 0 down.

    The dealer is quoting me at 569/month with 0 down. Am I missing something? What could possibly cause the payment to be 70 off?

    Any help would be appreciated!

    Using your numbers, I get $497.62/mo with tax. Pretty close to your calculations and nowhere near the dealer quote.

    Ask the dealer what the net cap cost is .. I suspect there are fees being added into the selling price that accounts for the difference. Make sure you understand what those costs are.
    Thank you for the response. I am glad I understood everything correctly. I went back to the dealer and negotiated some more and ended up getting a 2015 Tundra Crew Max 4x4 Limited down to 490/month with nothing down (just plates at signing) so I am very happy with that! It is still a 3yr/36k mile lease.

    Thank you for your help!
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 206,217
    jcw5020 said:

    Michaell said:

    U

    jcw5020 said:

    Can someone help me? I can't figure out how the dealer is getting the lease payment they are for a 3yr/36k. I am looking at a 2015 Tundra Crew Cab Limited 4x4 (MSRP - 45,500). The dealer stated that the sale price would be 42,567.

    The Residual they quoted was 64% meaning the the price at the end of the lease would be 29,120 (45,500 * .64)
    The money factor was quoted for August 2015 as .00110
    My county tax is 10% per month.

    So I have the following:

    42,567 - 29,120 = 13,447
    13,447 / 36 = 373.5278
    42,567 + 29,120 = 74,620
    74,620 * .00110 = 82.082

    So I have 373.5278 + 82.082 = 455.6098 * (.10) = 45.56

    For a total of 455.6098 + 45.56 = 501.17/ month with 0 down.

    The dealer is quoting me at 569/month with 0 down. Am I missing something? What could possibly cause the payment to be 70 off?

    Any help would be appreciated!

    Using your numbers, I get $497.62/mo with tax. Pretty close to your calculations and nowhere near the dealer quote.

    Ask the dealer what the net cap cost is .. I suspect there are fees being added into the selling price that accounts for the difference. Make sure you understand what those costs are.
    Thank you for the response. I am glad I understood everything correctly. I went back to the dealer and negotiated some more and ended up getting a 2015 Tundra Crew Max 4x4 Limited down to 490/month with nothing down (just plates at signing) so I am very happy with that! It is still a 3yr/36k mile lease.

    Thank you for your help!
    Congrats! Enjoy your new Tundra!

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  • potstillpotstill Member Posts: 26
    Hello,

    Any lease rates for 2016 Tundra's? Specifically, 1794 or Platinum Crew Max 4x4 12K 24 and/or 36 months for CA?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 207,825
    potstill said:

    Hello,

    Any lease rates for 2016 Tundra's? Specifically, 1794 or Platinum Crew Max 4x4 12K 24 and/or 36 months for CA?

    Don't have any money factors for 2016 models but the residuals are:
    1794: 74%/65%
    Platinum: 72%/63%

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  • potstillpotstill Member Posts: 26
    thank you!

    BTW, how crappy is this deal:

    2015 Tundra Platinum

    Sticker = $50,300 sames as sales price as they won't budge

    36 month, 12k miles $1400 down-- claiming 61% residual and MF of .0014

    $759/month incl tax.

    I call BS
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    potstill said:

    thank you!

    BTW, how crappy is this deal:

    2015 Tundra Platinum

    Sticker = $50,300 sames as sales price as they won't budge

    36 month, 12k miles $1400 down-- claiming 61% residual and MF of .0014

    $759/month incl tax.

    I call BS

    It's really crappy.. Who would pay full MSRP for an outgoing 2015?

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  • potstillpotstill Member Posts: 26
    agreed. found the same truck, 1794 actually, at another dealer- same details except residual climbs +1% and purchase price was $45,125. About $598/month incl TTL rolled into payment.

    Not sure if I'll pull the trigger though as I have 3 months left on a Mercedes lease and not sure I want to pay out early. Hopefully there are programs on December leases by then.

    Thanks again for your input! I love this forum!
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    potstill said:

    agreed. found the same truck, 1794 actually, at another dealer- same details except residual climbs +1% and purchase price was $45,125. About $598/month incl TTL rolled into payment.

    Not sure if I'll pull the trigger though as I have 3 months left on a Mercedes lease and not sure I want to pay out early. Hopefully there are programs on December leases by then.

    Thanks again for your input! I love this forum!

    Sounds a lot more realistic than the last quote. I hate eating lease payments.

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  • 1sttimegmc1sttimegmc Member Posts: 13
    Hello, I'm potentially in the truck market, wife's lease is up in January on her 2013 accord, she may take my suv and I may lease a full size crew cab truck. It's mind numbing how many incentives are available only further convoluted by the restriction of cab configuration, engine, region etc.

    I like the tundra, ram, f150 in that order. What are the 3/36 money dacoits and residual %'s for each of these in crew cab form? And what do you feel is the best lease deal out there on a crew cab truck? Many thanks in advance.
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 206,217

    Hello, I'm potentially in the truck market, wife's lease is up in January on her 2013 accord, she may take my suv and I may lease a full size crew cab truck. It's mind numbing how many incentives are available only further convoluted by the restriction of cab configuration, engine, region etc.

    I like the tundra, ram, f150 in that order. What are the 3/36 money dacoits and residual %'s for each of these in crew cab form? And what do you feel is the best lease deal out there on a crew cab truck? Many thanks in advance.

    First, I'd recommend you posting specific questions for each model in the relevant discussion - that way, everyone can benefit from the information in the right place.

    Second, for the Tundra, what trim level (SR5, Limited, etc.) are you looking for? 4x2 or 4x4? What state? Toyota numbers are regional.

    I don't follow pricing all that closely so can't really tell you which is the best deal. But, I will say this - go drive them all and decide which one you like the best. A good deal isn't a good deal if you don't like what you're driving.

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  • 1sttimegmc1sttimegmc Member Posts: 13
    Thanks good advice. Prefer the Tundra Sr5 4x4 Crewmax MSRP $41,000.
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 206,217

    Thanks good advice. Prefer the Tundra Sr5 4x4 Crewmax MSRP $41,000.

    .00170 and 64% for the 4.6L, 63% for the 5.7L

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  • moutaineermoutaineer Member Posts: 6
    Hello. Are the money factors on the leases negotiable?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 207,825

    Hello. Are the money factors on the leases negotiable?

    The base rate is the base rate. You can't go any lower than that.

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  • moutaineermoutaineer Member Posts: 6
    The dealership is saying that the lowest money factor is .001735. That's a 4.175% interest rate. That's seems way too high. You can finance at 1.9%. There's no way to negotiate that money factor down to the buy rate? What's the incentive to lease if your going to pay that much interest?
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    The dealership is saying that the lowest money factor is .001735. That's a 4.175% interest rate. That's seems way too high. You can finance at 1.9%. There's no way to negotiate that money factor down to the buy rate? What's the incentive to lease if your going to pay that much interest?

    Each model has it's own base rate, set by the leasing bank.

    For Toyota pickups, that's always been pretty high. The dealership can't give you a lower rate than the base rate from the bank.

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  • moutaineermoutaineer Member Posts: 6
    Ok, so you think that looks like a good rate? Or rather, a standard rate on the truck? They are quoting me $680 a month. Here are the numbers they gave me for a 36 month, 15,000 mile lease on a 2016 CrewMax SR5 with upgrade package, safety package, and off road package. 
    MSRP: $43,630
    Negotiated Price: $42,600
    Residual Value: $28,392
    Money factor: 0.00174
    Tax rate 5% - I'm in WV
     
    Doesnt that $680 seem high? I mean, the depreciation is 14272. So the base payment is only $396. Where the heck is the other $285 coming from? The interest would be $123/month. Which I think is insanely high, but regardless. There's still a lot of other money unaccounted for. 


  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 206,217

    Ok, so you think that looks like a good rate? Or rather, a standard rate on the truck? They are quoting me $680 a month. Here are the numbers they gave me for a 36 month, 15,000 mile lease on a 2016 CrewMax SR5 with upgrade package, safety package, and off road package. 
    MSRP: $43,630
    Negotiated Price: $42,600
    Residual Value: $28,392
    Money factor: 0.00174
    Tax rate 5% - I'm in WV
     
    Doesnt that $680 seem high? I mean, the depreciation is 14272. So the base payment is only $396. Where the heck is the other $285 coming from? The interest would be $123/month. Which I think is insanely high, but regardless. There's still a lot of other money unaccounted for. 


    I would ask the dealer what the net cap cost is - if higher than the negotiated selling price, ask the dealer what's been added.

    I get $545/mo with those numbers.

    Also, it's important to note that Toyota deals with residuals differently - the options on the window sticker are not 100% residualized. The residual number we have is for the "base" MSRP - dealers have to look up the 'true' residual on the paperwork for each unit in stock.

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  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 207,825
    Actually, I think Toyota changed that recently... .about the residual calculation. At least outside of the SET region. Normal residual calculation, now.

    To answer your question about if it's a good rate, or a fair lease payment. My answer to both is NO. But, not every vehicle comes with a cost-effective lease program.

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  • moutaineermoutaineer Member Posts: 6
    I didn't think it sounded fair either. Do you know of any 2015/2016 full size trucks that have better lease programs? I'm in WV and am not sure how to research. The listings on the car websites don't give many specifics. 
  • moutaineermoutaineer Member Posts: 6
    Sorry, my last question wasn't very specific. The other truck that we would consider is a Ford F-150 SuperCrew 4x4 with the 302A package. Do you have the residual and money factor for both a 24 or 36 month with 15,000 miles a year? 
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 207,825

    Sorry, my last question wasn't very specific. The other truck that we would consider is a Ford F-150 SuperCrew 4x4 with the 302A package. Do you have the residual and money factor for both a 24 or 36 month with 15,000 miles a year? 

    2.50% APR and 64% residual

    4.25% APR and 59% residual

    Still not a cheap vehicle to lease.

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  • shapedfutureshapedfuture Member Posts: 1
    Can you help me with a Tundra lease?
    Looking at a 2016 Tundra CrewMax Limited 4WD in California
    What can I expect for residual and money factor, payment?
    MSRP 47,758
    Agreed on price 43,440
    36 months, 12k a year
    8% tax

    Let me know if you need anymore info, appreciate it!!

  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 206,217

    Can you help me with a Tundra lease?
    Looking at a 2016 Tundra CrewMax Limited 4WD in California
    What can I expect for residual and money factor, payment?
    MSRP 47,758
    Agreed on price 43,440
    36 months, 12k a year
    8% tax

    Let me know if you need anymore info, appreciate it!!

    64% and .00170 for 36/12.

    With your prices, I get $492.41/mo with 8% tax, assuming the selling price is the cap cost.

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  • m3bmwcoupem3bmwcoupe Member Posts: 1
    Would you mind helping me out? I am looking at a 2016 SR5 4x4 Double Cab. MSRP is $40,760 and the selling price is $41,295 with tax and everything included. State is Maryland and looking at 36/12,000 or 48/12,000. Thanks for the help.

    I want to go in knowing what I should be negotiating for.
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoModerator Posts: 206,217

    Would you mind helping me out? I am looking at a 2016 SR5 4x4 Double Cab. MSRP is $40,760 and the selling price is $41,295 with tax and everything included. State is Maryland and looking at 36/12,000 or 48/12,000. Thanks for the help.

    I want to go in knowing what I should be negotiating for.

    Would need to know the breakdown of the selling price - I know MD charges sales tax against the entire selling price, which makes leasing comparatively expensive relative to other states.

    MF is around .00180. What engine does this have? Turns out there are different residual for the 4.6L vs. the 5.7L engine.

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  • sdlivin1sdlivin1 Member Posts: 2
    edited February 2016
    Hi looking for the MF and residual for 2016 crewmax 5.7 4x4 SR5 w/Off Road package in San Diego CA
    MSRP $42754
    Selling price $38250
    36 mths/12k miles
    8% tax

    Thanks in advance!
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    sdlivin1 said:

    Hi looking for the MF and residual for 2016 crewmax 5.7 4x4 SR5 w/Off Road package in San Diego CA
    MSRP $42754
    Selling price $38250
    36 mths/12k miles
    8% tax

    Thanks in advance!

    Just created a 2016 Tundra lease thread .. please repost here:

    http://forums.edmunds.com/discussion/39668/toyota/tundra/2016-toyota-tundra-lease-questions?new=1

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