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  • ariellearielle Posts: 9
    The height of the X3 is 66". Does anyone know what the ground clearance will be? Does it sound as if it will provide a high enough vantage point?
  • I think that 167.4 cm translates to more than 71" doesn't it? Taking my trusty ruler to the picture on the following link, I got about 12" which is of course ridiculous.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    I hope that it won't cost $38K even. At that price- just run to the Acura dealer and buy an MDX. BMW will sell some, for those who like premium compact. I'm one of those people who like premium compact, but if it's going to cost me $38K, why should I buy it?
  • I'm interested in whether anyone cares that BMW is having the X3 made in Austria by Magna, the company that also makes Saab convertibles and the Jeep Grand Cherokee for Europe. The X3 design was done by BMW, but it will be the first BMW that won't be made in a BMW plant.

    I'm a reporter at a major newspaper. Write me at -- happy to swaps IDs once we connect.
  • kdshapirokdshapiro Posts: 5,751
    It's going to be very easy to tell. When these vehicles are produced the plant code will be on them. There is a list of plant codes for BMW manufacturing facilities.
  • bmwgurubmwguru Posts: 51
    It's more accurate to say it is the first mass produced BMW not built in a BMW plant. The M1 was made for BMW by Italdesign.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    looks fairly handsome in the blue color. No iDrive. This may be the last BMW without iDrive. (sources say the next 3-Series will have a decontented version of iDrive) (The 1-Series isn't expected to have iDrive, so that may be the last before BMW goes iDrive crazy in every car they make and they'll screw up. Look at the 7-Series)
  • mkarpmkarp Posts: 22
    I have heard the x3 will be available "early" in 04, does anyone know what that means? January? or April? or later?
    Is it me or does some of the photo's resemble the forester a little?
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    should be on showroom floors by March at the latest. Some will pop up Feb or Jan. It does look like a raised Forester.
  • Has anyone been able to locate specifications for the interior of the X3? Legroom; rear cargo cu.ft. with seats folded down etc.?
  • I live in LA and as I was driving westward on Santa Monica Blvd to the 405 freeway, I followed a BMW X3 prototype. In fact as we were waiting at a traffic light, along came a X5 to compare them both. So the X3 next to the X5 at traffic Light, the X3 looked nearly as wide and not as tall as the X5. As time went on to the next traffic light, I pulled along side of the X3 and shouted to the driver, nice real nice. We talked shortly, he said it was a prototype X3 with a 3 liter engine, I asked if they needed more drivers. He was having a lot fun driving the X3. Final impression, the X3 looked larger than a CRV-RAV4 I did not see the front of the car, I was always trailing the vehicle, but it was very good looking, not too tall, or too station wagon looking but sporty. Great start for BMW X3
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    not bad. I may be in the market for a good used one in a few years.
  • mkarpmkarp Posts: 22
    michanth, while comparing the x5 to the x3 were you able to notice if the storage area behind the back seat was larger in the x3 or the x5. The x5 seems to be very small and I am hoping the x3 has a little more room. I need the room for my husky, she would not be comfortable in the back of the x5, besides the extra $ for the 5...thanks
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    I think that it will be Honda CR-V, Toyota RAV4 size, if not just a little larger.
  • "michanth, while comparing the x5 to the x3 were you able to notice if the storage area behind the back seat was larger in the x3 or the x5." from message 46..................

    MKARP, I did not notice the back seat room, although by memory it looked ample, but until the official dimensions are released we will never really know.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    should be smaller than the X5. Otherwise, why buy the X5?
  • riri23riri23 Posts: 15
    "should be smaller than the X5. Otherwise, why buy the X5?"

    Not necesarilly, the 3 series wagon has more cargo/luggage space than the X5 and the X3 is on a 3 series platform. In fact, I believe they will no longer make/bring the 3 series wagon to the U.S. now that the x3 is in the mix.
  • HSYHSY Posts: 2
    Here are numbers quoted from BMW CAR Magazine (Aug'03 issue):

    Dimension X3 X5 Difference
    Length 4565mm 4667mm 102mm (4.0in)
    Width ** 1853mm 1872mm 19mm (0.75in)
    Height 1674mm 1715mm 41mm (1.6in)
    ** excluding mirrors

    Luggage 480-1560 L --
    capacity (17-55 cu ft) (16.1-54 cu ft)

    "The 3.0 X3 will accelerate from 0-62mph in 7.8 seconds (nearly a second quicker than the similarly equiped X5) on its way to a maximum of 130mph for the standard car, or 139mph for the Sport model."
  • bmwsellerbmwseller Posts: 200
    BMW simulcast says X3's will be arriving at centers day after thanksgiving. I'll be at the ride and drive in Irvine mid-november. We've already taken deposits on these. It will be interesting to see how many customers BMW will take from lexus. That's turned into there bread and butter sales leader.

    Thanks, for the information on where these will be built. I'm a little alarmed at that. I'll investigate.
  • riri23riri23 Posts: 15
    Thanks HSY for posting the dimensions.
    I can't wait to see the X3 in person and compare it side to side to the X5.

    Does anybody knows the prices for the U.S.?
  • bmwsellerbmwseller Posts: 200
    base price will be around 35-36. I'd expect a reasonably equipped one with auto, prem, be mid 40's
  • brock9brock9 Posts: 5
    Experience the X3 here:
    The X3 is the only vehicle I've been excited about in the last few years.
    I can't wait to see it in person!
  • BMW Financial Services website now lists the MSRP pricing on the X3. It is $30,995 for the 2.5 and $36,995 for the 3.0. You can access individual model price info under the lease/loan estimator.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 11,595
    Any cargo space #s out there?

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2015 Infiniti Q40 AWD, 2017 Honda Pilot Touring AWD

  • sopecreeksopecreek Posts: 203
    First, thanks for the info. I've been waiting for X3 but these reviews are quite disappointing.

    "Inappropriately cheap-looking fittings, unacceptable ride comfort, not as lively as expected for 3.0 litres, overpriced."

    "Ride is unrelentingly choppy and the fit and finish of the interior are way below usual BMW standards. Petrol engines are big, thirsty and costly to run."

    Will the US version be possibly different? Otherwise, I'll have to wait a couple of years for changes, hopefully.
  • riri23riri23 Posts: 15
    I was a bit disappointed too but you can't always trust the reviews. I still want to see it in person. I'm concern about prices; it might be too close to the X5 for me to consider the smaller one. BMWNA is keeping all the X3 info so secret that it is ridiculous

    I read on another site that the brochure offers little information. i. e. premium package is TBD (to be determined?), Weight, Permitted load, top speed, acceleration, fuel consumption, manual transmission, automatic transmission and fuel capacity all TBD.

    Hello!!!!! Why bother putting the brochure out?

    anxiously waiting... riri :)
  • I too have been waiting, and was told by my local dealer the x3 would be in late Feb. Today I received a brochure (small card) with info and lots of pics, and re ignited my interest - I am in need of a new car and have struggled between the Lex 330, highlander (not as plush but quite the deal) and the MDX, which did not fit in my (single) garage.
    I called the 800# which was a call center (obviously not well trained as the operator did not know what an X3 was), and she re directed me to BMW customer service - she did take my name for a brochure however, and said it would be in the mail tomorrow!

    BOW cuts service had no additional info today, so I turned to edmunds for more info (as if I am not already overloaded already)

    The international web site for BMW ( x3/x3/index.html) has the best pics of the inside and out (I hope the large sunroof is available here), and the BMW USA site has fewer pics, but as noted above, does state availability is 11/28. At least that is better than after snow season here in the Midwest!

    Anyone spoken to any dealers about test drives early??

    any other info gleaned from other sites????

    We'll see if I can hold out another 45 days!

  • bmwsellerbmwseller Posts: 200
    We were told here in Peoria that dealers will receive demonstration units the day after thanksgiving. We are planning a ride and drive event that week for our clients. I will be in Irvine, Ca for some X3 training and race track driving mid Nov.
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