I was quoted invoice for a new 2007 TSX of $27,612+TTL.
The dealer also has a 2006 TSX with 50 miles on it. They offered the 2006 for $1,000 below invoice, or $26,612+TTL.
Considering that in a couple months the new 2008's will be out, and the 2006s will drop in value by roughly $3,000, I'm not certain that getting the 2006 is a very good deal. Should I be asking for $2-3K off invoice?
I'm not having much luck in the Twin Cities area. I drove an '07 TSX 6MT non-navi (white/parchment) this weekend and I really liked the car. The dealer I was working with said they would have to order a 6MT to get me the configuration I wanted (silver/ebony, 6MT w/navi) and that it would take 3 months. I figured they might have to order, which is why I'm looking now (my lease is up in ~80 days), so 3 months is perfect.
For pricing, though, things aren't as rosy. I asked him for a price on the car and he said he could do ~30,200. I said I was surprised, having seen lower prices here and on other sites. He asked me what I had seen and I (of course) said the lowest I had seen was $27,500. He questioned if that was with navi and I confirmed. He said that was lower than even what they are selling their hail-damaged cars for. The lowest he would go was $29,647. So, I left.
I went home and submitted an Edmunds dealer quote request to all 3 dealers in the Twin Cities. I've heard back from 2 of them--from 1, it was the same guy I'd just talked to (d'oh!) and he wouldn't budge. The other dealer said $29,495. I haven't heard from dealer #3 yet.
Any ideas? From going back and reading this forum from early March until now, it appears that the lowest confirmed price w/navi is $27,500; common prices are in the $28,300-$28,500 range. I think part of the problem might be that there aren't any more '07s available and we'd have to look at ordering an '08--what does everyone think? Thanks!
Hmm, maybe you should get some quotes from dealers in the Chicago area. There are likely more dealers there than in MSP and likely more inventory and competition so you might get a lower price. IF you get lower quotes, you could either buy it from a Chicago dealer or use those quotes to beat on your local dealers and try to get a better price out of them. Just a thought.
And please let us know what Dealer #3 comes back with.
I just got off the phone with him. Nice guy, said the most he could do was $1500 off. I told him what my research was showing and he said maybe in SoCal or Chicago, but that our market isn't that competitive. He specifically said with only 3 dealers here that they don't compete against the Chicago market (his initial email to me even had a distance limit of 100 miles for price matching). The dealers all have said their benefits in terms of niceties like loaners for service even after the warranty ends, etc., are only for people who buy from them--the savings of buying from Chicago vs. the hassle of not getting a loaner is probably not worth it for me. I'm still trying to work on all three of them, though!
Yes, I understand your desire to stay local and your cost-benefit analysis. Good luck, and please keep us all informed on how things go. I'm enjoying my new 6MT TSX. I hope you find yours soon!
Hi Everyone - I am very close to making a purchase and the price that I have for a 2007 TSX with Auto is 25,700 + TTL and doc fee was 54 or something. I can buy it for 3.9 APR 60 months or lease it for 36 months 36k miles for 2000 down (plus $480 for first month payment, doc fee and plates. tax is included in the 2k down) and 293 a month. This is from woodfield acura in chicago land. Is this a good price for the automatic TSX? Thanks for your time and appreciate your responses.
Yes, that is a good price. Read the last couple of weeks worth of posts in this forum, and you'll see that yours is on the low end of quotes that have been reported. You might want to go over to the TSX leasing forum to read up a bit on some leasing issues too.
At that price though, make sure you also get an out-the-door price. Some dealers tend to quote you a below-invoice price and then try to make it up on the sly.
I talked to the third dealer some more--he was willing to either a) give me $1500 off and locate an '07 6MT navi (which he did--in Boulder, CO--then said it would be at least $800 to ship) or b) order me an '08 out of their initial allotment. I asked him if he would do $1500 off on an '08--he laughed and said, "No, there's pretty much no dealing on the new ones--they aren't even on the ground yet."
I decided to take another tack and found that there's a car buying service/broker that's partnered with the company where I work. They don't charge fees direct from the customer--they work it out with the dealer. They ended up using a contact from the first dealer I went to and he agreed to order me an '08 for $900 over invoice (whatever that turns out to be). Given my experience in this market, I felt that it was a fair offer and I accepted. I talked to the guy today and it looks like I'm getting one of the initial '08s, Silver over Ebony, 6MT navi in mid- to late-August. I think it's the best result I could have come up with here, so I'm happy. It's going to be a long 2.5 months, though!
Thanks for the response. I am just coming back after signing the documents. The car is just off the truck and they need a PDI done and I can pick it up only tomorrow. I paid 25,700 (includes destination) plus a 595 acquisition fee since it is a lease. Its 2000 + 495 (first month, title, doc, plates) down and 293 a month for 36 months and 36k miles. There were no other fees except the tax which was around $1825.
When i paid 29,800 Drive out couple of months back when there were no signs of 2008. My TSX has black on black with navigation , window tints and wheel locks. 29,800 including all fees, registration, title and 8.5 % sales tax. try to negotiate more those who are planning to buy one in near future. I know someone who bought the same car last month for 29,400 out of door and everything that i got was included in that with 8.5% sales tax. He could get benefit of 3.99% APR but i had to go for 5.89% APR from honda as the APR offer wasn't out there when i bought mine....
Good luck to all who are going to be proud owner of TSX !!!
I am looking at purchasing an 08 TSX. Does anyone know what the changes are and when they are scheduled to come out? Will the '08 be a re-hash of the '07, with a major change coming in the '09 model? Any information about the 2008 TSX would be helpful!!!! Thanks!
08 essentially the same as 07 - slight increase in MSRP - arriving June-August
09 - major change - arriving in the first half of 2008, perhaps as early as March
May I ask - why purchase an 08 instead of an 07? Prices on 07's are low right now (08's won't be discounted much in the early going) and AHFC has some attractive low-rate finance and lease programs which likely won't be available on the 08's until much later in the model run.
I can tell you why I went for an '08--no availability of 6MTs w/Navi. Dealers up here were offering $1500 off '07s, but then wanted $800 or more to ship the cars in. Closest available was in Colorado.
Plus, if you take a long-term view, people buying '07 cars now are, in a sense, buying 1-year-old cars when it comes time to sell down the road. If 2007 models become available in August of 2006 (which most do), when you go to sell your car in, say, 2010, people generally look at a 2007 as being a 4-year-old car. You buy it today, you get 3 years out of it by 2010 and people are treating it as a year older.
Buy a 2008 when they first come out, you get the benefit of the whole year.
Plus, who knows? Maybe they'll add DRLs or traffic on the nav or something else cool--they aren't likely to take any features away.
when I bought my 06 milano red/ebony 6spd/w nav in Nov. 06, the 07's were not available yet. In January 07 when I had to pay the personal property tax my car was considered a year old which saved me money along with the end of that model year sale. Since we put alot of miles on our cars having the 06 helps based on the date it was manufactured.
I am not in NOVA (No. VA?), I'm in CT, but I thought I'd share anyways. Low inventory in my area seems to be a problem. I do not know how it is near you.
I have 2 internet quotes from separate dealers on base TSX that are substantially the same.
To test the waters, I approached another dealer who was not as forthcoming w/ its internet quote as the other two dealerships w/ a 1k down payment which would include upfront costs, 360/month including sales tax. The guy wrote back calling my numbers unrealistic given the low inventory. And invited me to come in to speak with them if i was ready to consider "REAL" numbers.
In my area, the dealers seem to be pointing the inventory shortage (although I believe they will be getting in one more shipment of 2007s).
Does anyone have any suggestions on negotiating when the car isn't in stock - at any of the local dealerships? I do not want to go out of state.
Just purchased a non-navi '07 TSX for $27,200 OTD in Falls Church, VA. I probably could've haggled a little more, but they actually had the color combo I wanted (royal blue pearl/ebony), plus I suck at bargaining.
How much was the price before TTL? Hard for us to know exactly what state and local taxes/fees you paid. I suspect you got a pretty good deal though since even with Delaware's low tax you probably paid less than 28k before fees.
I really think I should get 500-700$ off these prices, should I just wait until the end of June? I've been seeing navi models selling for 27,500-27,900 recently on here.((inventory is low though))
We were able to get very close to invoice, but i noticed that there is a manufacturer to dealer incentive of 500 here in MA. I was hoping to get this car at invoice minus the 500 incentive....
Im going for the non-navi version.
Has anyone had luck getting the car for under invoice?
I am looking around to get 2007 TSX w/nav AT. The best price I received was 29,000 OTD. I am in northern VA. Do you guys think it's a good deal?? OR should I wait for a better deal. I got a quote for 26,700 + TTL for non navi. What do you guys think??? Thanks
For that price, I'd buy two! :shades: Don't forget there is also a $500 Manufacturer to Dealer incentive as well as some low APR financing through Acura. See if either is applicable to you through Edmunds or Acura's web site. Good luck!
I looked at that... there is nothing in this area I think. But I am not sure. Can someone check that for zip code 22152. It would be highly appreciated. Thanks
Just made a deal on an '08 TSX. Here are the numbers:
$29,000-Dealer will absorb fist $200 of any price increase -$13,000-'03 trade in Rav-4 with 50,000 miles =$16,000 + $960-PA sales tax 6% + $118- Licence, tag transfer and doc. fees =$17,078- Total OTD Price also included one set of all season mats. Shopped 3 dealers and considered this deal was fair with a trade in. Piazza Acura in Reading, PA very nice to deal with. Car should be in sometime in Aug. Silver w/ ebony. Does anyone have any figures on '08 pricing.
Considering that you are going for 2008, i would say it's good deal. Its excatly 1000 more than what i paid for my 2007 . blck with navi and ebony interior. i have window tints and wheel locks....but a little high sales tax and other fees. Congratulations for the car....Enjoy!!
I have have bought this car in month of April..It's amazing to ride this beauty but have been feeling that the brakes sometimes are very deep pushed in. I mean when i apply break i feel as if it touched the ground. Does anyone has the same issue?? What can be done about this?
P.S. : I know there is a separate forum for issues and all but since mine is 2007 model, and i couldnt find any issue over the car in that forum....i am posting it here....Thanks.
Hi all experts, Just started shopping. The first offer: $379 monthly lease payment (including tax) for 47 months, 0 down, 0 TTL, no money up front - all included in monthly lease. Residual value 51%. This is basic TSX, auto, dealer throws cassette player and all-weather (is that how it is called?)floor mats. Good deal? Oh, I am in Austin, Texas.
In Texas do you pay sales tax on the full purchase price of the car, even tho it's a lease? If so, do you then also pay sales tax on your monthly lease payment?
What's the selling price of your car? This is critical, and it's the key thing you can negotiate.
What is the money factor? Usually, the mf is significantly higher for a 48 month lease than for a 36 month.
Can you list the various amounts for tags, title, doc fees etc that are being rolled into the lease?
If you want to buy your car in Northern VA, try Radley in Falls Church. Stay as far away as possible from Pohanka in Chantilly, unless you have a burning desire to pay more for your car than everyone else does. Pohanka is the closest dealer to where I live, but there was no way I would give them my business. They quoted me invoice, and then tried to convince me that they were giving me a great deal. Oh, and they insisted on adding the $670 destination fee that the other dealers are no longer including in their price. Did they think I have the word "idiot" written across my forehead? Ugh. I live in Northern VA, but bought my TSX in MD. You will have to pay 3% tax if you buy in VA or MD, 3.17% if you buy from Radley. VA processing fees vary by dealer, but average about $250. MD is capped at $99. Good luck!
i notice that in your price quote the dealer will absorb the first $200 of any price increase. How high will you go?Are you still using the rav-4. will the trade-in value then change. do they know for sure they are getting the 08's in august. I bought my 06 tsx from lehigh valley acura in emmaus, Pa. they have a excellant service department, especially the service manager, very pleasant.
I have a price quote for auto, w/o nav of $25,945 and with nav of $27,745. Is that a good deal????? Is there any room for additional negotiation???? They are offering 3.9% financing for 60 months. Any comments will be appreciated.
Yes, those quotes are a good deal. What state are you in?
If you go back and read the posts in this forum from about June 1st on, you'll find some quotes lower and some higher. If you're in California, for instance, you might decide there's room for a bit more negotiation* - if you're in New Jersey, on the other hand, you're thinking about buying two at those prices!
*even if you're in Calif. those quotes are excellent, and if they've got the color you want - enjoy!
kris2,congratulation on buying TSX. I am also in the market for similar car. Will you please let me know the name of a salesperson at Woodfield Acura. you can e-mail me at bhagwsa@yahoo.com thanks again.
I've owned my first Acura (MDX) for over 5 years now and am deciding to go back for a TSX (w/o Navi Auto), saves allot more gas I figured. Anyone in the St. Louis area getting any good offers from the 2 dealerships here? I got rocked in '02 when I had to pay MSRP for my gas guzzler, so hopefully I can get them back this time. BTW, I think Acura is offering 1.9% APR for 24-36 months. So I am hoping to get me one before the rates go up again. Thanks!!
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The dealer also has a 2006 TSX with 50 miles on it. They offered the 2006 for $1,000 below invoice, or $26,612+TTL.
Considering that in a couple months the new 2008's will be out, and the 2006s will drop in value by roughly $3,000, I'm not certain that getting the 2006 is a very good deal. Should I be asking for $2-3K off invoice?
Any viewpoints would be much appreciated. Thanks.
For pricing, though, things aren't as rosy. I asked him for a price on the car and he said he could do ~30,200. I said I was surprised, having seen lower prices here and on other sites. He asked me what I had seen and I (of course) said the lowest I had seen was $27,500. He questioned if that was with navi and I confirmed. He said that was lower than even what they are selling their hail-damaged cars for. The lowest he would go was $29,647. So, I left.
I went home and submitted an Edmunds dealer quote request to all 3 dealers in the Twin Cities. I've heard back from 2 of them--from 1, it was the same guy I'd just talked to (d'oh!) and he wouldn't budge. The other dealer said $29,495. I haven't heard from dealer #3 yet.
Any ideas? From going back and reading this forum from early March until now, it appears that the lowest confirmed price w/navi is $27,500; common prices are in the $28,300-$28,500 range. I think part of the problem might be that there aren't any more '07s available and we'd have to look at ordering an '08--what does everyone think? Thanks!
And please let us know what Dealer #3 comes back with.
This is from woodfield acura in chicago land. Is this a good price for the automatic TSX?
Thanks for your time and appreciate your responses.
At that price though, make sure you also get an out-the-door price. Some dealers tend to quote you a below-invoice price and then try to make it up on the sly.
I decided to take another tack and found that there's a car buying service/broker that's partnered with the company where I work. They don't charge fees direct from the customer--they work it out with the dealer. They ended up using a contact from the first dealer I went to and he agreed to order me an '08 for $900 over invoice (whatever that turns out to be). Given my experience in this market, I felt that it was a fair offer and I accepted. I talked to the guy today and it looks like I'm getting one of the initial '08s, Silver over Ebony, 6MT navi in mid- to late-August. I think it's the best result I could have come up with here, so I'm happy. It's going to be a long 2.5 months, though!
Thanks for the response. I am just coming back after signing the documents. The car is just off the truck and they need a PDI done and I can pick it up only tomorrow. I paid 25,700 (includes destination) plus a 595 acquisition fee since it is a lease. Its 2000 + 495 (first month, title, doc, plates) down and 293 a month for 36 months and 36k miles. There were no other fees except the tax which was around $1825.
Thanks again
Good luck to all who are going to be proud owner of TSX !!!
08 essentially the same as 07 - slight increase in MSRP - arriving June-August
09 - major change - arriving in the first half of 2008, perhaps as early as March
May I ask - why purchase an 08 instead of an 07? Prices on 07's are low right now (08's won't be discounted much in the early going) and AHFC has some attractive low-rate finance and lease programs which likely won't be available on the 08's until much later in the model run.
Plus, if you take a long-term view, people buying '07 cars now are, in a sense, buying 1-year-old cars when it comes time to sell down the road. If 2007 models become available in August of 2006 (which most do), when you go to sell your car in, say, 2010, people generally look at a 2007 as being a 4-year-old car. You buy it today, you get 3 years out of it by 2010 and people are treating it as a year older.
Buy a 2008 when they first come out, you get the benefit of the whole year.
Plus, who knows? Maybe they'll add DRLs or traffic on the nav or something else cool--they aren't likely to take any features away.
What additional cost can I expect to pay? (Acquisition cost, security deposit, etc)
What would be a good money factor for this area?
Thanks.
I have 2 internet quotes from separate dealers on base TSX that are substantially the same.
26,950 + 595 acq.
850-900 up front costs (conv. fee, 1st month, registration)
371/month (w/ 6% sales tax)
.00110 money factor
16,680 residual
To test the waters, I approached another dealer who was not as forthcoming w/ its internet quote as the other two dealerships w/ a 1k down payment which would include upfront costs, 360/month including sales tax. The guy wrote back calling my numbers unrealistic given the low inventory. And invited me to come in to speak with them if i was ready to consider "REAL" numbers.
In my area, the dealers seem to be pointing the inventory shortage (although I believe they will be getting in one more shipment of 2007s).
Does anyone have any suggestions on negotiating when the car isn't in stock - at any of the local dealerships? I do not want to go out of state.
I received an email this weekend from Acura of Mission Viejo advertising these prices (before TT&L):
2007 Acura TSX $25,649
2007 Acura TSX with Navigation $27,419
Feder's Acura---> 2007 TSX w/navi $28,788 (plus TTL)
Ramsey Acura----> 2007 TSX w/navi $28,614 (plus TTL)
I really think I should get 500-700$ off these prices, should I just wait until the end of June? I've been seeing navi models selling for 27,500-27,900 recently on here.((inventory is low though))
We were able to get very close to invoice, but i noticed that there is a manufacturer to dealer incentive of 500 here in MA. I was hoping to get this car at invoice minus the 500 incentive....
Im going for the non-navi version.
Has anyone had luck getting the car for under invoice?
does that mean everything including taxes, titles, etc?
Thanks
The best I can do here in NJ is $28,600-28,700 BEFORE tax. And i'm in a higher tax rate.
Maybe we can do better if we wait until the end of the month.
Don't forget there is also a $500 Manufacturer to Dealer incentive as well as some low APR financing through Acura. See if either is applicable to you through Edmunds or Acura's web site. Good luck!
Thanks
http://www.edmunds.com/new/2007/acura/tsx/100826499/incentives.html?vdp=off&setzip=22152&state=VA
Santa Monica Acura, but Power South Bay has it around that price as well
$29,000-Dealer will absorb fist $200 of any price increase
-$13,000-'03 trade in Rav-4 with 50,000 miles
=$16,000
+ $960-PA sales tax 6%
+ $118- Licence, tag transfer and doc. fees
=$17,078- Total OTD
Price also included one set of all season mats. Shopped 3 dealers and considered this deal was fair with a trade in. Piazza Acura in Reading, PA very nice to deal with. Car should be in sometime in Aug. Silver w/ ebony. Does anyone have any figures on '08 pricing.
P.S. : I know there is a separate forum for issues and all but since mine is 2007 model, and i couldnt find any issue over the car in that forum....i am posting it here....Thanks.
http://tsx.acurazine.com/
Just started shopping. The first offer: $379 monthly lease payment (including tax) for 47 months, 0 down, 0 TTL, no money up front - all included in monthly lease. Residual value 51%. This is basic TSX, auto, dealer throws cassette player and all-weather (is that how it is called?)floor mats. Good deal? Oh, I am in Austin, Texas.
In Texas do you pay sales tax on the full purchase price of the car, even tho it's a lease? If so, do you then also pay sales tax on your monthly lease payment?
What's the selling price of your car? This is critical, and it's the key thing you can negotiate.
What is the money factor? Usually, the mf is significantly higher for a 48 month lease than for a 36 month.
Can you list the various amounts for tags, title, doc fees etc that are being rolled into the lease?
If you go back and read the posts in this forum from about June 1st on, you'll find some quotes lower and some higher. If you're in California, for instance, you might decide there's room for a bit more negotiation* - if you're in New Jersey, on the other hand, you're thinking about buying two at those prices!
*even if you're in Calif. those quotes are excellent, and if they've got the color you want - enjoy!
I've owned my first Acura (MDX) for over 5 years now and am deciding to go back for a TSX (w/o Navi Auto), saves allot more gas I figured. Anyone in the St. Louis area getting any good offers from the 2 dealerships here? I got rocked in '02 when I had to pay MSRP for my gas guzzler, so hopefully I can get them back this time. BTW, I think Acura is offering 1.9% APR for 24-36 months. So I am hoping to get me one before the rates go up again. Thanks!!
Mike