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the geolander was being driven at 65mph, totally flat and showed NO adverse tire ware. incredible. and it handled well even totally flat.
long live the geolanders....
http://www.caravanclub.co.uk/News/Current+Club+News/24+Sept+2003+- TCOY+2004.htm
Bob
Oh by the way, what does HAL stand for?
-Frank P.
Clarke know someone at Apple?
TWRX
(Who has never had Windows on his HAL 9000 or iBook for that matter)
HAL is just IBM if you replace each letter with the one preceding it in the alphabet.
tidester, host
But then, it was IBM who went way dark side by allowing Bill to market his yet-to-be, to-be-bought-elsewhere OS on their hardware.
Then there was Unix/ Linux, and now Apple is, too.
Arthur was then/ still is cool, so is the XT (time to stay on context).
- D.
PS 2020 - and counting up; designating the number of times I have seen this movie
IBM contributed advice about computers of the future, but insisted that their logo's be removed from the on-board computer once they realized that it was to become an errant device. IBM were even less pleased when it was realised that HAL, the name of the computer, was IBM's name with all the letters displaced by one character. The producers maintain that this was coincidence, but the conspiracy theorists maintain that it was Kubrick and Clarke having a swipe at the computer monolith.
The HAL 9000 did not in fact fail but was only acting under programming to ensure that above all else the mission was to carry on to Jupiter at all costs. HAL was given details of the true purpose of the mission, which was withheld from the crew, but was also programmed never to lie to humans, and to administer psychological tests to determine if the crew were in danger of jeopardizing the mission. In his book "2001 - filming the future", Piers Bizony asserts that in the original script there is a dialogue between HAL and Bowman that makes this dilemma and the subsequent actions clear, however this was cut from the final edition of the script.
My transmission had the same problem while in traffic but not applying the accelerator. I was hoping it truly was a fluke. Now I'm concerned it's a systemic problem with the XT and we're on a relative timeframe before it happens to us (and possibly me a second time).
Bummer.
Anyway, I got 23.9 mpg with again, mostly hwy driving. For those "rolling their eyes" in skepticism, I wonder if it would help if I also reported my mileage? I only went 346 miles on this last tank but the one before I milked all the way to 359 on the trip odo (and even then I had a gallon and a half to spare).
-Frank P.
It's only happened a few times, and probably more of a Computer generated Issue. I thought the Diagnostic Computer the Tech uses can tell how many times the Engine has redlined etc.. (it's History) and would be upset if accused of abusing the Engine when it can hit near the 8K Range with this reported problem. It all happens so quickly , everything happens so quickly in the XT. The good news I learned today, the XT's computer can't turn you for enjoying it!
Your problem is the same problem I had.....the transmission would disengage from the engine which could (and did once in my case) cause a redline / rev limiter situation. Without the feedback of acceleration it's pretty easy to end up pushing the tach way up very quickly.
It's a dangerous flaw, one that I wasn't willing to live with. At first they thought it was the ECU, then a solenoid valve, then finally after a week with their mechanic putting 200 miles on teh car they admitted it was time for a whole new transmission.
If you're dealer is having a hard time repeating the problem have them get the car up to cruising speed then take their foot off the gas for a few seconds and then try to accelerate. That was what I told them to try and they successfully replicated the problem at the dealer.
I worked with SoA to get a replacement XT instead. I wish you much luck....for me a replacement transmission on a new car did not sit well with my conscience considering the price I had just paid.
How are you getting these high MPG numbers? Is your XT an MT or an AT? At what altitude do you live? What's the temperature outside? What speeds do you drive at? Are you pushing it hard? How many miles on the odometer? What brand/octane gas do you use? What's your tire pressure? A lot of questions...lol
I'm averaging about 21. Highest ever was 23.0, lowest was 19.2 with about 7,000 miles on the car.
Each of your numbers is about 5% better than I'm getting. I have no doubt that Frank is accurately reporting his results, but I can say with certainty that they're unattainable on my XT.
Too much torque for the transmission?
Just kidding, I'm sure they'll sort it out. It is an entirely new transmission, a while back we asked Patti to look up what exactly they meant by "Direct Control" and she got a tech to list a bunch of new/changed components that make it up.
I'm sure SoA is as eager as you to sort this out. Good luck.
-juice
How dare you, Subaru. ;-)
-juice
C&D has the most circulation so no surprise they follow general market trends.
-juice
There are no words to adequately express how much I hate that rididulous fact.
you go "ballistic".
Cars are getting taller (SUVs), because everyone is prowling along on the roads, and they start to grow like trees in the forest....
Other than that, no AT issues noticed, but do hear a "tick" in the engine at low RPM's. Anyone else hear it, or is the 2.5 Boxer engine sounding "normal"?? My Outback seemd to sound somewhat like that, but not quite as pronounced.
Thanks.
I worked with Linda (and a little with Patti) at SoA. Linda knows my case very well.
I would dearly love to swap cars with Jack for a week or so just to see if I could replicate my mpg avg but unfortunately he’s 2,500 miles away ;-)
-Frank P.
'Twould be an interesting experiment, for sure.
We've had several multi-fatality crashes here lately, so da fuzz are cracking down on speeders. So, I've cut my cruise speed from 70 to 65. I'll be watching to see whether that made any difference at next fill-up.
Fight the Power!
Frank: just drive to JB's house, it'll only take about 3 gallons for you to get there. LOL
-juice
-Frank P.
John
-juice
When you list the dozen plus factors involved, you would expect lots of variability. However, when you mind all your P's and Q's, you would expect to be on the high end, not the low end.
John
Juice, HAL has no effect on me. I long ago decided to ignore the fact that the Forester comes with automatic climate control and to leave it in manual control mode.
I actually switched my wrx with a friend who consistently gets around 20mpg. My 25 mpg average wrx got around 25 mpg with my friend driving and I got slightly under 20 mpg driving his wrx. Now that's over 20% diff. Both cars are in great condition and both cars were driven under each driver's usual circumstances. The only fault with this experiment was that my wrx has a reflashed ecu., so we were comparing apples to polished apples (From what I have gathered the reflashed cars get about 0 to1 mpg better mileage) . It still surprised me with such a large variance.
Getting the a/c off is a pain but it turns itself off after the car has warmed so it doesn't bother me.
Not only that, but there doesn't seem to be any warm air directed at the left foot, so the temperature difference between the two feet can become large. One of these days I'm going to find a way to redirect part of the air toward my other foot.
The funny thing is, under a 0 mph to whatever speed at 6500 rpm, the engine is silky quiet - very smooth all the way up. Zero wastegate noise. If I tromp on it while I'm driving, i.e. for a quick pass, I definitely get the fluttering sound. Whatever it is, I'm not going to worry about it.
I decided to stop complaining about the OEM Panasonic battery and buy a WalMart deluxe for 39.95. The dragging starter when below 20 degF is now history. Plenty of spin. Maybe not all the starters are created equal for current draw. Glad it was only that.
For my XT-AT 75mph = 3000rpm on the dot. I finally got to use my cruise control for a delightfully long time last night and it is a joy to let take over. Rock solid on 75, needle never moved.
My personal slant on the mpg variations is that there are so many sensors in todays vehicles that have lots to do with the mileage that variation is unavoidable, especially when tolerances can be +/-10 to 20 % and still be called acceptable.
A car that has a set of sensors that all fall in the middle of the nominal range is probably going to get better mileage than one whose sensors are all over the place - Think of it this way - if my sensors are "worse" than someone else's by 10%, and that person gets 25mpg, its reasonable for me to get 22.5mpg. If they were "better" by 10%, then I'd be the happy guy getting 27.5mpg.
That's probably an over-simplification, but there are quite a number of sensors in our Foresters, and they all interact, ultimately with fuel delivery.
Larry