Chrysler 300/300C

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  • jcz1jcz1 Member Posts: 36
    Review of Dodge Magnum, of interest to 300 owners because:
    1) Reason given for no map pocket on back of front seat is that items in that pocket could fool weight sensor for passenger air bag.
    2) Sidebar has an update to original bad review of 300's handling (the only bad review I remember seeing).

    www.usatoday.com/money/autos/reviews/healey/2004-07-01-magnum_x.h- - tm
  • intrepidspiritintrepidspirit Member Posts: 662
    Gang bangers are not as discriminatory as you suggest. A lot of innocent people have been killed in L.A., including children in their own homes. Many of them have been the victims of mistaken identity. They didn't get shot because they "didn't belong there."

    The gangs have been spreading out from central L.A. and many outlying neighborhoods and communities are becoming increasingly dangerous. It's hard to know where you "do belong" and where you "don't belong."

    It is incredibily easy to turn on the wrong street in L.A. I have done it several times -- thankfully not often after dark. When it happens again, I don't want to be mistaken for a rival gang member.
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    Um, I'm thinking it's time to leave the stereotypes and the off-topic commentary aside and get back to talking about the car now ...
  • 581955581955 Member Posts: 18
    Thanks for the tip on the spoiler,(Dawn Enterprises) they don't sell to the public, but they did direct me to Sportwing.com who retails for them. Ordered this morning and should have on my 300C next week sometime. As you said, they are very reasonable and they offer one of the longest warranties I've seen on spoilers.(By the way Crispiegee, you should take a look at this low profile spoiler, you might change your mind.) Getting back to bigmike, thanks again, now if you know where I can look to find nice 18" chrome wheels, I would really appreciate that as well. I've tried most of the obvious, like the Tire Rack and as many of the major wheel co. etc. Don't want to go to a 20" wheel in fear of looking too Pimped out. Chrysler had a nice 5spoke wheel which was discontinued before they were produced.Thanking you in advance.
  • jcz1jcz1 Member Posts: 36
    Sorry, apparently that URL was too long. Let's try this again (combine the two lines below):

    www.usatoday.com/money/autos/reviews/healey/
    2004-07-01-magnum_x.htm
  • fooefooe Member Posts: 21
    thanks for the tip on the metallic window tint.Just wondering if it would still affect the reception even though the tint is on the inside of the window and not on the outside blocking the reception. I got a quote to remove the tint and retint on the back window at 175-190 bucks.Then he couldn't gaurentee not wrecking the defroster lines at the same time. I want to get it taken off and before they put new tint on again see if there is a difference.Is there anyone else who tinted their back window and has this bad am reception.
  • itshemiitshemi Member Posts: 32
    My 300C

    http://photos.yahoo.com/jlsy2001
    Got about 24 @ 50mph From Springfield Va to Dover Del
    Get abut 17.0 around town.
    Got 21.5 on trip to West Virgina about 70
    Currently have 1500 miles
  • nmatsonnmatson Member Posts: 17
    Very nice - trust you have many happy miles in her!
  • corkfishcorkfish Member Posts: 537
    Anyone seen the 2 door coupe version in the latest Car and Driver?
  • soozpksoozpk Member Posts: 205
    Just got back from a mini-vacation, and now with 3700 miles on the C, we actually got 25.1mpg at one time at 60, with an average of 23.8 at 75 mph. The Hemi loves steep hills on cruise, just chewed them right up. I even carried my conventional spare in the trunk, and still had plenty of room for a large suitcase, and all the crap the the old lady picked up. Didn't even have to fold the seats down.
  • cobragmikecobragmike Member Posts: 21
    I do have the metallic tint on the back window. I do get reduced AM reception only. FM is OK, and Sirius Sat. is unaffected (obviously). Most of the AM Talk Radio shows are on Sirius now so not big deal for me. Really like the sat radio.

    Also, from what the Tint installer said, the none metallic tint will turn purple and fad over time. So, really recommends sticking to the metal tint (SoloGuard) is what was used on mine.
  • fuzzywuzzyfuzzywuzzy Member Posts: 958
    Wow your AM radio is worth $175? Ditch that dude. ALL window tint effects AM reception if your antenna is on the rear window.
  • rooneyrooney Member Posts: 5
    Any comments on the Continental tires that come standard on the C.
  • fuzzywuzzyfuzzywuzzy Member Posts: 958
    This should put to rest the 300C cop car issue...
    http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/features/strangenews/wabc_62504-bb-co- pcar.html
  • intrepidspiritintrepidspirit Member Posts: 662
    As you requested, I'll refrain from this commentary. However, for the record, I consider it very relevant to the topic, as it has seriously influenced my decision on whether or not to buy a 300C. Maybe it's just a geographical consideration...
  • bigelmbigelm Member Posts: 995
    Definitely nice for K9 units...
  • bbraddockbbraddock Member Posts: 46
    I can tell you from experience, I had them on my '99 Passat and found them very good tires. They hold well and wear well. Up here in Michigan winters they had great traction on the snow. I was thrilled to see they came on the Hemi but they put "bad" years on the touring and limited models, and I would assume the base as well. I've never had a good set of Goodyears, but I know some people swear by them. The Continentals in my opinion are a great tire that you'll be very happy with. Enjoy the ride>
  • motormannmotormann Member Posts: 20
    I have a Chrysler 300 Touring that I purchased in mid-May. My car had the Continental self-sealing tires (17"). It is the only aspect of the car I didn't like - I think the Continentals handle sloppy and seem to make the car "wander". I decided to purchase new tires with 18" wheels - one of the smartest decisions I've made. I purchased BF Goodrich g-Force KDWS tires (245/55/VR18's)on TSW Q-5 18"x9" wheels. What a difference!! They handle very crisply, and the tire/wheel combo fills the wheel wells nicely. Got the tire shop to buy my Continentals and stock Chrysler alloys. A sweet deal all around - I highly recommend it.
  • yak54yak54 Member Posts: 72
    Thinking of doing the same thing when my 300C arrives at the end of the month, How much did they give you for the Continetals? How many miles did you have on them before you traded them in?
  • microrepairmicrorepair Member Posts: 508
    I would be cautious about jumping to another brand based upon motomann's changing his tires to a larger size AND a different brand. 18" tires will handle more crisply than 17" tires of the exact same brand and model. It may well be that the Goodrich tires are "better" than the Contis, but I would prefer to see a side by side, apples to apples comparison of the same size tire in the two brands, or the same brand in two different sizes. I'm not knocking motormann's experience or either of the two brands mentioned (I've never owned either one!), just suggesting a better comparison. Has anyone out there had any experiences with just changing the size or just the brand/model but NOT both at the same time?
  • justgreat47justgreat47 Member Posts: 100
    get goodyears...the 3.5's get conti's...jackg 90seville 94k
  • kinglabkinglab Member Posts: 25
    I just got the call today that the Cam bolt kits are finally in. I will make an appointment for next week so the dealer can install them and re align the car for the third time. I sent your dealer an email in Windsor asking exactly how they corrected the dreaded pulling problem. Of course they did not respond, so I am sure since it is your car you can tell everyone what they did?
  • emaleemale Member Posts: 1,380
    kinglab,

    you'd be better off calling that dealership and talking to the service manager directly...
  • rayk1rayk1 Member Posts: 10
    I took my car in yesterday and they installed the cam bolt kit and re aligned the car and when I picked it up the problem was fixed, I am definatley happy with the results.
  • kinglabkinglab Member Posts: 25
    What dealer and where please? I may to call them for thoughts just in case
  • rayk1rayk1 Member Posts: 10
    I went to Benoy Motors in Woodstock, IL they alinged it per TSB 02-003-04, hope this helps.
  • motormannmotormann Member Posts: 20
    They gave me $40 per wheel and $35 per tire with about 1000 miles on the tires ($300 total). Not exactly like winning the lottery, but better than nothing!
  • motormannmotormann Member Posts: 20
    Micro,

    I definely wasn't trying to imply that the BF Goodrich tires are "better" than the Continentals - its a matter of personal preference and driving styles.

    I posted due to my personal experience that finding tires and wheels for the Chrysler 300 / 300C is difficult due to the unusually tall sidewall for this size tire and the RWD configuration. Most tires and wheels currently on the market that will fit the car were designed for trucks and SUV's. The 245/55/18 tire size is wider than the stock 300C but retains the overall wheel diameter within a 1/10 of an inch (for speedometer accuracy) and the wheel/tire combo I chose has no binding, rubbing, or clearance issues.

    I hope that I didn't mislead anyone - just wanted to let those who are interested that this combo works for me and (so far) has no fittment issues.
  • rooneyrooney Member Posts: 5
    My C will come with 18 inch wheels. What other tire instead of Continental will be a good choice.
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Member Posts: 2,363
    The Touring I saw today had Goodyear Integrity tires, T-rated. These are not especially awful, in fact will give a good ride, but are certainly nothing special. The T-rating limits top speed to approx 115 mph or so...also not much of a problem on our roads...
  • ww300cww300c Member Posts: 1
    Athough I love my 300C, Chrysler has a serious issue they will not address. The headrest design in Chrysler 300C is offset by 2" from the seat back and tilted toward the passenger at an angle of 24 Degrees. This requires the removal of this headrest to avoid injury to the neck in trips over 20 minutes long. The industry norm as determined from my other vehicles appears to be a headrest bottom flush with the seat with an angle no more than 16 degrees.
  • hardhawkhardhawk Member Posts: 702
    I love the headrest as it gives far greater support and protection in case of a crash. Much better than the worthless ones that are 4-5 inches from the back of my head! If a headrest will not tilt forward or is not fixed in a forward tilted position like the one on the 300C, I would not buy the vehicle as it is not safe. That is why on all of the high dollar import cars (and a lot of lower dollar ones too) the headrests have a forward tilt adjustment. It is certainly not a defect!
  • dkrhardydkrhardy Member Posts: 134
    My DW (Darling Wife) also hates the headrest on the pssenger seat. So I took it out and reversed it. Just turn it 180 degrees and slide it back in. To me it looks strange, she thinks it feels better, and ask someone else if it looks weird and they never even notice it.
  • tornado25tornado25 Member Posts: 267
    It was my understanding (and perhaps I'm way off base here) is that head"rests" are not for resting your head. They are head restraints and are a part of the overall safety system of the car.

    That is, the restraint only comes into play in an accident to prevent whiplash and other head/neck injuries. It was my understanding that if your head does rest on it, it's improperly positioned. If such a premise is correct, there should be no "feeling" at all, that is, your head should not be touching the restraint and thus, no complaint about whether it is comfortable.

    Lastly, but I would NOT determine something to be an industry norm simply based on what exists in my other cars, because even I took into account every car I've ever owned, it's hardly representative of every price level, body style or design philosophy. Further, even if that WERE the industry norm, that doesn't mean the design is as safe as possible.
  • hardhawkhardhawk Member Posts: 702
    I keep mine adjusted to about 1 inch behind my head. It needs to be as close as possible in the event of a crash, but not something you use to rest your head while driving. That could lead to disaster!!! The 300 C headrest does not adjust, but is perfectly located for maximum safety on me. Perhaps on shorter people it is too close, but for me it is perfect.
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Member Posts: 2,363
    ...reversing the head restraint could result in a severe neck injury in case of a crash.

    It should be positioned so that the forward part of the "headrest", the part that would contact you in the event of a rear-ender, is above the base of the skull, roughly even with your ears. And it has nothing to do with "resting your head"...

    Most people have it too low, and too far back, to mitigate injury in case of a real heavy hit from the rear. I can tell you, having it properly adjusted has saved my bacon on at least one occasion.
  • tornado25tornado25 Member Posts: 267
    "Most people have it too low, and too far back, to mitigate injury in case of a real heavy hit from the rear."

    I thought as much. I previously owned a Neon and its "fully down" position, the top of the restraint was right the base of my skull. It seemed like my head would bend right over had I ever been hit from behind. I raised it several notches. It never touched my head, however.
  • dkrhardydkrhardy Member Posts: 134
    Re: headrests ..... My DW is very short, does that make a difference? To her, Yes! When in the "normal" config, it pushes her head FORWARD, so with it reversed it just touches her head in a relatively upright position. ?? Go figure. I see it and if I did that for my side, I'd feel "laid back". I agree that they should be positioned for safety, but having said that, not one way fits all. Thanks for your input, please be assured that I will NOT compromise my DW's safety. Hey, maybe in the forward position they need to be higher up for her!!
  • markcincinnatimarkcincinnati Member Posts: 5,343
    This post bears repeating.

    This post is life saving, or could be.

    Most folks do have their headrests set too low -- and that is dangerous.

    Headrests are not comfort features, per se, they are safety features, keeping them at their low point for most drivers is a bad thing. But, so are lima beans -- to me anyway.

    Seriously, this post 2861 is one of the most important posts ever.
  • tornado25atornado25a Member Posts: 25
    dkrhardy, I certainly didn't mean to imply you're compromising her safety to simply appease her. It was just from your post, it seemed to me you were saying your wife was resting her head on it and didn't like the way it felt, but when reversed she could rest her head comfortably. Perhaps I misunderstood. My only point is the head shouldn't rest on it, period. So, at least it seems that was accomplished here.

    Some head restraints, like those in Saabs, are engineered to be an active part of the safety system. In most cases, they are just "there", like crumple zones. In those cases, as long as the "bulk" of the head restraint is correctly, I suspect that it would still be functional, but I defer to jrct for a better response.

    In any event, if I stepped on your toes, I apologize.
  • barry626barry626 Member Posts: 78
    Anyone else receive notice? I did today.

    Recall notice: Front Shoulder belt adjuster turning loop bolts.
    May not be properly tightened?
    May increase the risk of injury to front occupants.

    Ordered my 300c on 4/6, built 4/21, took delivery 4/29.
  • ebarleebarle Member Posts: 2
    Aftermarket tires and wheels have been a true pain to find. In my area (SF Bay Area) I have had two "tire" people not even know what the 300C is! My question is, confirm that you were able to successfully put 18x9 inch rims with no problems, front and rear??? Or are they 18 x 8.5??

    And, as all of the other posts have mentioned, it seems the only aftermarket stuff is the Over the Top 22 incher DUB class wheels that are, well, not the best looking set-up for the 300C, in my opinion.
  • dkrhardydkrhardy Member Posts: 134
    Nooo, not at all. There are times that folks (me?) need to be reminded of the actual reason for .... something. The headrest thing did not involve real comfort, but in the delivered position actually forced her head forward at an uncomfortable angle. I think someone here even mentioned that the "C" headrest is angled forward more than most cars. Soooo I posted what I did to try to correct that for our car. If I or anyone does something to cause an unsafe situation, cry out loudly. Then if I or anyone ignores it .... well then it is absolutely a stupid move. Thanks for your concern, but my skin isn't that thin. :-))
  • ctujackbauerctujackbauer Member Posts: 18
    I'm a big Chrysler fan (even if they are half German now), own a Chrysler PT Cruiser, and have been following the 300, 300C numbers in the paper. I looked through the July posts and didn't see anything about the June sales numbers. Hope this isn't a repost.

    The sales numbers were very good. May's sales numbers of about 13,000 units were nearly repeated for June, beating out BMW's 3-Series for the month of June. It's nice to see everyone talk about their 300's in this thread.

    It's also great to see that Dan Neil, the LA Times writer who bashed the 300, eat his words. I've been reading that guy in the paper for almost a year now, he's usually a bright fellow, but I'm ecstatic that he's wrong.

    Anway, from the online Wall Street Journal autos section, Pace Cars: Market Segment Leaders, Luxury, Entry section (it's a java popup so I don't have a link):

    The Chrylser 300 erased any doubts in June about whether its strong showing in May - 13,000 units sold - was an aberration, Mr. Libby says. The 300 nearly matched that number, outselling the BMW 3-Series, the midsize-luxury segment's standard-bearer, for the second month running. Trade-in data show that drivers are turning in their Cadillac Devilles and Lincoln Town Cars in favor of the 300. "It's a huge success," Mr. Libby said, adding that drivers are "hungry for a vehicle that makes a statement."

    BMW 3 Series - YTD through June 2004: 54,944
    Chrysler 300 - YTD through June 2004: 39,829
    Acura TL - YTD through June 2004: 38,901
  • soozpksoozpk Member Posts: 205
    Recieved a recall notice yesterday concerning the retightening of the "Battery Cable Bulkhead
    Stud Fasteners", which can cause the dash to go up in flames. Okay, the battery is in the trunk, and there are posts available up front to jump-start the engine....Thinking there's a bulkhead fitting someplace in the firewall that that feeds the fuse block. I'll go out this morning and have a look-see. Never recieved the recall notice on the shoulder belts.
  • microrepairmicrorepair Member Posts: 508
    I was just trying to make the point about comparing "apples to apples" and that changing the size of the tire as well as the brand/model makes it difficult to assess whether it was the size or the brand of tire that made up the improvement in handling. Having spent most of my career in the engineering field, I always try to analyze things one step at a time so I can pinpoint which change in parameter makes the most effective improvement.

    I certainly wasn't trying to critique your impressions or either of the two brands of tire and I sincerely apologize if it sounded that way. I hadn't realized that getting aftermarket tires/wheels for the 300C was so difficult and that sheds some light on your original statements. I'm used to searching for tires/wheels in the same size that my car currently has and my cars tend to use "popular" sizes of wheels and tires.
  • motormannmotormann Member Posts: 20
    ebarle,

    The wheels I got (TSW "Q-5" wheels) are definely 18 x 9". I was a little concerned about the width myself, but they work just fine! I now have over 2700 miles on the combo (BF Goodrich g-Force KDWS 245/55/VR18's) with absolutely no problems. You can check out the wheels I got at www.tsw.com. Hope this helps you out.
  • motormannmotormann Member Posts: 20
    micro,

    No problem. I'm an engineer myself so I can certainly understand your point of view as well. Hopefully, the tire manufacturers will note the popularity of the 300 and make some mid-grade and premium rubber to fit. Then, it will be fun to do that apples-to-apples comparo!
  • stephenstephen Member Posts: 131
    Caster/camber bolt kit came in and was installed on my 300C. No more drift to the right when letting go of the wheel. Yea!

    stephen
  • fuzzywuzzyfuzzywuzzy Member Posts: 958
    They must be selling in other parts of the country then. I have only seen a handfull of 300's here in S FL & none of the dealers have any C's, & only a few base & limited 300's. I did a search & came up with 6 in stock. If they get them in they are already sold to the suckers who have been waiting for them paying above MSRP.
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