Mazda MX-Flexa / Mazda5
libertycat Member Posts: 593
edited March 2014 in Mazda
I hope the new MPV keeps its current features and adds AWD, more wood trim, power liftgate, and forward and backward moving second row seats. Oh, and more room than the new Sienna, Odyssey, and Grand Caravan/T&C. The MPV for 2004 is my second favorite minivan after the new Sienna. It has so many of the features I need, but the Sienna has them ALL. Every little one.
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(Oh, and what's different for 2004 with the MPV? Thanks in advance--we may buy an older one if there's not that much difference)
The only reason I can see now to go with an MPV is the vertical height, for taking big things every so often...which *would* help in taking things home from tag sales etc...
Maybe I'll wait until the end of July and get an '03 MPV...I *don't* want the Sienna--seems too big. I was asking about the 04 MPV...if any changes are on the horizon. I can't find any.
If you hear of any, please post!
Two other points, price and mileage. My '00 Sienna MPG is about the same as my '01 MPV and selling price of the Ody & Sienna is well (choke) above the current MPV - at least where I live.
Does anyone know when a 'new' redesigned MPV is coming out? is it 2006 estimate?
I saw the spy shots and auto show pics of the new Sienna just before we ordered the MPV, which clinched the deal. Once again, Toyota has "uglied-up" another one of their models (the 4Runner and Landcruiser being the trend-setters). I think the new Sienna is ugly and not at all aggressive-looking like the MPV or Town & Country/Caravan. Also, it's wheels and tires are too small, making it look goofy and out of proportion. Sure it has a lot of goodies, and is the first to copy Mazda by enabling the sliding door windows to go down, but for the price, it had better look cool too. It doesn't.
I'm not quite sure of the age of most of you who post here, but I grew up with wood grain interiors, and I'm sick of them. They can be tastefully applied to luxury sedans, but in my opinion, wood grain is not at all sporty. Carbon Fiber is very sporty. What do you see adorning a lot of great sports cars today? Wood grain? No. My wife and I prefer the modern and sporty look of carbon fiber, and I'm glad Mazda got with the times.
Now, for those of you who would prefer the old-fashioned wood look, I do sympathize, because I hate when manufacturers don't offer things as options or give more choices. I like to have my hard-earned $ buy exactly what I want, so I understand all of your frustrations. This is such a great van, though, that that shouldn't deter anyone from purchasing one. I hate to go down this road, but maybe anyone that can't live without wood trim should get an after-market kit to apply. There's a lot of them out there.
Anyway, I'm anxious to see what the next generation MPV will bring, because if Mazda keeps heading in the same direction, and offering such great cars as the MPV, Mazda 6, and RX-8, when we're ready to trade our '03, you can bet it will be the next generation MPV!
keyless remote starter
remote window feature (up/down w/ fob 4 hot days!)
passenger-side door lock control
more power (WASHU engine plz..would even settle
for MAZDA6 engine 4 right now)
rvw mirror w/ compass/temperature reading (sorry..
used to it now since buying my camry)
split-folding 3rd row (now standard 4 MV category)
stability control (in absence/instead of AWD 4
optional step bars (makes access easier for small
children/elderly despite currently low step-in
navigation (at least an option..dashboard sure is
REDESIGN THE FRIGGIN' SHIFTER NOW! (also make the shift detents firmer..currently too easy to shift out of gear)
trip computer, mpg reading, tire pressure monitor
panoramic-view interior mirror (a la Windstar/new Sienna..to C who is
telling the truth about who hit whom 1st!)
tracks on bottom of 3rd row seat (so that when its folded in the floor
2nd row seats can be adjusted fore/aft as needed.
power liftgate window (Toyota started it 1st by stealing roll down
side windows..[non-permissible content removed] for tat..'sides, Mazda started with front/side
windows..may as well finish the rest of the windows).
Split Fold 3rd seat
Fore/Aft adjustable 2nd row seats
backseats that recline more. (My Odyssey reclines less than my neighbor's 94' Previa and my friend's 04 Sienna has less recline than my Odyssey)
Roll-Down windows-all rows!!!!
Nav System (enough room for that)
Good Fuel Economy
I'm fine with the shifter
Move the back climate controls to the second row. (They're in the 3rd row now)
Keep the tailgate seat thing. I love it in my Odyssey.
"Value Van" model for $20K with the basics. (No NAV, no Power Liftgate, just one power door and a CD player)
All this for under $33K, Mazda. Don't go overboard like the Sienna. My friend payed $33K for his Sienna XLE FWD.
I know Nissan did a similar thing since the 04 Maxima is based on the Altima platform Nissan decided to move Maxima production to America since the Altima is built in Tennesee. 85-03 Maxima's were built in Japan. So is Mazda pulling a Nissan(Maxima) with the MPV?
I like some of the options mentioned but worry about price and option packaging. One of the things I love about the MPV is that you have some pretty simple packages in which to choose from. When you start adding all of these "toys" it will be.....
"Package A with numbers 1, 3 and 5 added in. Oh but wait if you want #1 you have to step up to Package B which will cost you more $$$. Oh and wait, #3 only comes with Package C. Now package C is our top of the line model but if you want #2 with Package C you can't have it. You can only get #2 with Package A"
When I was thinking of buying a Chrysler van that is exactly what happened and before I new it, I was up to a Town and Country for $38k.
Better gas mileage???? My MPV gets a steady 21 mpg around town and we have averaged 26 mpg on trips. Is that bad?
Power???? The MPV has ample power. Unless of course you are comparing it to a Corvette. I mean come on. I find the MPV has more power then the larger Ody.
Platform?? I think they need to keep the MPV on it's current platform. It's proven reliable and if they change it, then it becomes speculative.
Keep the size as it is. It's a minivan and it's perfect for those of us with small families. I don't need or want a large van. I also feel making it larger will make it a look like the rest of the vans; A box on wheels!
I would change;
Shorter shifter. 10 feet it too long!
Move the rear climate controls to the second row.
More interior storage. i.e. compartments
Split third row tumble under seat
Other then that, leave it as is.
I called Vicki, the fleet manager at Showcase Mazda she was out and never returned my phone call and thus she lost a sale... I bought from Larry Miller and got a good deal but Miller has sold the Mazda dealership to someone else.
Hope Mazda don't change the MPV very much, overall it is about as good as you can get. The milage is great on my 03 25mpg highway. The "fuzzy logic" tranny takes getting use to but it works smooth as butter...
I wanted to buy a mitsy eclipse to replace our old Expo but DW said NO WAY JOSE (Damn). So we are going to take a hard look at the 04 MPV. This time we will get a flushed out ES... (Maybe I can talk her into a Nissan pickup???)
I would like larger numbers and letters on the display and back lit all the time. With sun glasses on you cannot read it. We got a lot of good comments about the coastal blue color on the MPV.
I think I have DW talked into a Nissan Pickup(Q 3.5, thanks jchan2). Two MPVs is a bit much, although not a bad idea. But we have a grand daughter in college here and with a pickup I could help her move (that did the trick)...
Love our PEE VEE
In fact it would be really nice to get a MPV with only the two front seats, with a hard bed liner and use it like a pickup. To bad Mazda pickups don't have the Duratec engine. I would buy one in a heart beat...
I like the Mazda service warrenty. The service depts I have delt with have been great... Ford is a joke, so is Dodge and Toyota. Nissan is not great. Honda makes good machines but are A-Holes to do business with. (From experiences over 40 years)
The Toy vans are jokes... Gas tanks that leak and engines that seize up due to oil pump failure...
I try to stay away from them for they might seize up or blow up.. (Snicker...)
I gues you would like this one if they made it (photoshoped).
I really don't like the front end as much as the 03's, but I do like the rear lights more....look even more sportier than before.
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There's a GS, GX, and GT version in Canada. The Mazdausa site is down, probably for re-vamping.
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Well the Premacy is going to be replaced by Mazda4
Spy shots of new Mazda4 are here http://members.chello.nl/mel.rozeboom/Nieuws/nieuws22.htm
So only thing they need to do after MPV 2006 redesign, is to bring the Mzada4 on US market and you'll have exactly what you said.
Base stripper: $22.5k
ESX: $33k+$1.5k for some kind of DVD/stereo bundle. Would come with AWD, HID, leather, moon roof, dual power memory seats, and lots of other fancy goodies.
The ONLY reason we are not getting an MPV that its too small. It has the best driving dynamics in its class. If they could preserve that and make it bigger I would be really happy. I really dont want to sell my 01 Protege ES but I'm going to have to get something bigger.
Then, bring over the Mazda 4 and price the MPV $3K under Sienna and with everything the Sienna has, plus more. loaded. Sales hit right here!!