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That would make sense than, that the Mazda5 is replacement for both MPV and Premacy (but only in Europe). NA will get a bigger minivan + as they promise the 5 too.
Few points to add from reading previous posts.
LE Sienna truly doesn't look like good deal for the money it costs. I notticed too, that they have a lot of LEs on dealers lots.
MPV doesn't have any star MPG, but the difference between competition if you add up the cost of gas is miniscule IMHO. Also if you check etc. Ody bopard, you will see that in the city a lot of Odys gets bad MPG as well.
Check it out!
Click on yellow tab at the bottom of the right column.
Then click on the bar underneath the Silver MZ5.
The video lasts 2 minutes and plays fine on Windows media player.
If you know Japanese, great. If not it is still fun to watch.
I think this is fairly new - I believe the Tokyo show was early November, but I could be all wrong. Note they are still the same silver and dark blue MZ5's. The sliding door on one of the vans is powered.
The previously mentioned site (wheelz4) implies the new MZ5 (Premacy) will be introduced around 1st week of January in the motherland.
I wish hp & torque #'s were a bit higher, but at least they come on a a much lower rpm (3500).
The price sounds bang on too....$20K to start, topping out @ $25K (That's Canadian $$$).
without "+1", i may think about "Toyota Matrix"
2. Wise price: 20k
3. Frugal gas consumption: better at 9.5L/7L range
if Mazda5 has all these merits, i'll buy it once it hits the shore.
1. We are not as fat as Americans;
2. we have consistantly increasing imigrants;
3. large portion of Acian population;
4. Majority are poorer than Americans
(thanks to 3 level government tax, and staggering federal surplus);
5. Gas consumption sensitive
6. more importantly, more family oriented. average at least 2 children in a family, frequent visits to gradparents, ...., but we are poor, dont forget. For a family, they will basiclly use the first two rows, use the third row for occation cases
Mazda is so sensitive to its "Zoom Zoom" slogan. But mazda5 is built for "Family",or "SpaceWagon Young Couples". It is the kind of vehicle that for a typical family in canada, which occupies the majority of working class Canadian population.
All these require the intelligent "+1" as an attractive factor for buying a mazda, not a "Toyot matrix" or "Ford Focus Wagon"
I agree with Rornard -- the +1 would have been popular in Canada. It would make us feel 'safe' buying the smaller van since we rarely need the space but want it just in case. Even the old Nissan Axxess came with 2 optional jump seats in the back to give 7-seating.
Execution and pricing will ultimately determine success, but this should be a big hit in Canada.
The center seat position is the best place to put a child car seat. Does that mean anything to the marketing forks at Mazda?
Please loud your voice there to let them bring the intelligent "+1" option, please.
Your decibel really counts!
At least I count it every day.
to see mazda5 specification and comparation
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Why not try and influence Mazda as the Canadians have done. Whilst there is no forum on the US Mazda website, you could email them to support availability of the "+1" second row option using the following link:
Yes - I mean nice NOT to always have one in the back when you have three kids.
I would be extremely interested in the vehicle if it had 3 accross in the middle (like my current 1996 Odyssey). I would not even take a look at it if I am forced to always have a child in the way back of such a small vehicle where his head will be less than a foot from the back window. I would prefer a standard sedan over the vehicle in that case. An Accord seats 3 kids very comfortably in the back.
I love the fact that it is available with a manual transmission though - very close to hitting the mark for me.
I also prefer regular doors on a vehicle this size, but that is not a deal breaker by any means.
Not much new except a Quick-time 360 exterior shot (actually a shot rotating from a spot on the floor, not a car-rotating shot) at the Paris Auto show and a 360 interior shot down by the Seine (actually I think the Seine shot was superimposed). Well, the pictures aren't that new then but they are new to me.
We usually wind up taking our CR-V when we need to carry 5 people. If Mazda offered the +1 in Canada, it would be a slam-dunk decision for me, especially since Honda appears to have abandoned its original Honda Stream/Latitude ideas (the FR-V leaves me cold).
Mazda has a real winner on its hands if they can let go of the fear that the +1 will sink the MPV. They are two very different market segments.
Seriously considering the Ford Freestyle, but would like something less bulky with better fuel economy and less $$. Mazda6 wagon? No seating for 7. MPV? Same dilemma as Mazda5-no seating for 3 in the middle row.
We still have some time to decide as long as I can keep our Windstar with a blown head gasket limping along. Believe it or not, our Protege5 is now our main family vehicle and is serving us well. SUV haters rejoice!
A Mazda5 with a manual transmission, seating for 7, nice MPG, and priced around $20k. Mazda - are you listening?
In regard to your inquiry, the Mazda MX Flexa is a concept vehicle, and Mazda has no plans on producing it for the United States market at this
The MZ5 will be available in Sport and Touring models and the major differences are described.
Durability05: Did you get to the LA show? They do indeed have a MZ5 showing from what I have read. I would have gone myself if it wasn't such a long drive (400 miles!)
Honda is talking about one of these, maybe they will offer seats for 3 in the middle. I am not too hopefull though, as this seems to be an unfortunate trend.
Without 6/7 seats, you may as well buy a Mazda6 wagon/hatch, Mazda Tribute (for those who like to sit high) or a Toyota Matrix or something like that.
I've just started reading this discussion, as my yearnings for a Mazda3 are starting to get a little competition from this model.
I currently drive a 2000 Protege ES with 87,300 trouble-free miles on the odometer. It's my third Protege since 1991. My wife drives a 2002 Protege5. So you can say we're a Mazda family.
We have one son, 3-1/2 years old. I'm into several hobbies and other activities that require me to carry cargo once in a while. The fact that this vehicle is a smidge bigger than the Protege5 and 3 wagon, yet is still based on the 3 and MADE IN JAPAN, makes it VERY APPEALING to me.
Anyone heard any inklings on price? I figure they'd better keep this vehicle a coupla thou under the MPV or they won't sell any. I'm guessing around $18K stripped/$20K "nicely equipped"/$23K loaded to the gills? Am I close?
P.S. Be prepared, when you click on the little camera icon beside each photo, to wait ... and to be impressed. BIG, high-resolution photos!
Toronto Star did a big show review in their auto section - no mention - even though, since Canadians tend to buy smaller cars, this will probably sell well in Canada.
In short, they don't "get" the Mazda5, thinking it is an SUV/minivan cross. Here's what they said...
The panel was only slightly more curious about the Mazda5, kind of a cross between an SUV and a micro minivan with rear sliding doors and seating for six.
"It takes the worst of both," Leneschmidt said.
"It doesn't know if it wants to be an SUV or a minivan," Samuels said.
"It's going through puberty," Tassi said.
"It's confused," Samuels added.
Going with sliding side doors is going to make this a tough challenge -- sliders (along with pointy nose) mean "minivan" to most people. Swing out doors would have suggested more sportiness (like the Matrix/Vibe).