Volkswagen Jetta 2006+

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  • avenger1avenger1 Member Posts: 90
    Remember this when reading a CR review...

    From what I understand, CR worded the Suzuki roll-over to drum up fear, because they had completed the construction of a new company headquarters and needed to sell more magazines.

    Both sides admitted no wrong doings, yada, yada. But considering this almost sank Suzuki (they are still struggling to gain ground even today), I'm sure a LOT of money (or future favorable reviews) were involved. Suzuki stated they were "pleased with the result of the settlement." Hmmm....

    Consumer Reports, Suzuki settle lawsuit

    By The Associated Press
    07.09.04
    DETROIT — The publisher of Consumer Reports magazine and Suzuki Motor Corp. have settled an 8-year-old lawsuit in which the Japanese automaker claimed the magazine doctored road tests in 1988 that found the Suzuki Samurai tipped over too easily.
  • dudleyrdudleyr Member Posts: 3,469
    Read below and you will see no money changed hands and no retraction was made. Does not sound to me like CR did anything wrong. Funding a new building is jumping to some mightly large conclusions.

    "July 2004 NEWS UPDATE:
    Suzuki and Consumers Union Agree on Dismissal of Lawsuit
    We want to thank our readers who have supported Consumers Union throughout the course of this litigation. The case has been dismissed by joint agreement, and it cannot be re-filed. We no longer suggest that you write to Suzuki or General Motors about the case. CU continues to stand fully behind its testing and report on the Samurai, has issued no retraction or correction, and has paid nothing to Suzuki. Click on this link to see the full text of the Joint Public Statement announcing the resolution of the case."

    http://www.consumerreports.org/main/content/aboutus.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=457057&ASSOR- TMENT%3C%3East_id=456975&bmUID=1110230823091
  • avenger1avenger1 Member Posts: 90
    CR later revised their statement about the case listed in the CR press release, the next day...

    "The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration declined to declare the vehicle defective and has criticized Consumer Reports' tests because of driver variation. Consumers Union said it disagrees with NHTSA's position.

    Consumers Union also said it has never questioned the safety of any other Suzuki model it has tested. It said its statement that the Samurai "easily rolls over in turns" was limited to severe turns in Consumer Reports' short course avoidance maneuver.

    "CU's use of the adverb easily' may have been misconstrued and misunderstood," yesterday's statements from both sides said. "CU never intended to state or imply that the Samurai easily rolls over in routine driving conditions.""

    CR basically hid the fact that they tipped on "severe" stress...which most SUV's at the time would (and some cars, too). As I said, they both agreed to say that there was no mistake made, but even CU felt the need to pony up on the omission.

    So what I wanted to point out is...take everything with a grain of salt. For example, although the reviews are based on long term tests, the reliability ratings are done by cards mailed out to readers. It depends on who fills out the cards and sends them back (we all know that people who have problems with cars are the most vocal). Most VW owners were VERY vocal about the coil packs - which were all replaced by VW, by the way. Hence, the low rating for VW in reliability from CR.

    Sorry to take this off topic...I believe that most reviewer allow their own judgments get into their reviews, including "unbiased" reviewers. The jetta, like suzuki, has taken some unfair beatings, most likely due to the country of manufacture (which shouldn't really matter).

    The new jetta should be a nice care, although pricy (it does include things like AC standard). I look forward to the TDI wagon, which I am in the market for.

    Now I have to decide to wait for the new model wagon TDI (in one year) or try to get a bargain on a 05 jetta wagon (cheaper, but smaller/less refined). Any thoughts?
  • jeffyscottjeffyscott Member Posts: 3,855
    "...the reliability ratings are done by cards mailed out to readers. It depends on who fills out the cards and sends them back (we all know that people who have problems with cars are the most vocal)."

    True, except in the case of Honda and Toyota owners I think it is the opposite. They "never" have car problems and will tell you about it all the time. When they do have problems I think they keep quiet. :-)

    I think the Edmunds data on repair costs, based on the cost of an extended warranty is a better guage. When you look at that, Toyota and Honda are not significantly different from some "unreliable" brands like VW.
  • alpha01alpha01 Member Posts: 4,747
    I disagree.

    True, except in the case of Honda and Toyota owners I think it is the opposite. They "never" have car problems and will tell you about it all the time. When they do have problems I think they keep quiet. :-)

    I understand thats tounge in cheek, but you should reference some of the mediocre showings- such as for the Lexus GX470, for example, or last years V6 4Runner which was rated well below average due to a fuel system recall. And why then would Nissan have had the big swing it did- its customers are strong proponents of the brand as well.

    ~alpha
  • jeffyscottjeffyscott Member Posts: 3,855
    OTOH, one would also need to explain the conflict between CR ratings and Edmunds. Edmunds indicates that if I buy a 2001 Jetta I can expect repair costs to be the same as a 2001 Corolla or Camry. And maintenance costs of the VW are actually lower than the Toyotas, according to Edmunds.
  • avenger1avenger1 Member Posts: 90
    Perhaps the good people (our hosts) can explain how they rate repair costs to compare to other makers.
  • jeffyscottjeffyscott Member Posts: 3,855
    "This is the estimated expense for repairs not covered by the vehicle manufacturer's warranties over the five years from the date of purchase, assuming an average of 15,000 miles are driven annually. This expense is based on the cost of a typical "zero deductible" extended warranty for the vehicle, minus the estimated amount of that cost that consists of the warranty provider's overhead and profit."

    http://www.edmunds.com/apps/cto/about.jsp
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Administrator Posts: 11,242
    Whew, glad you did that. I was going to have to dig to find the info :)

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  • venus537venus537 Member Posts: 1,443
    our local dealer received two jettas on monday. i'm scheduled to take a test drive this thursday evening. i'm pretty excited.

    now about the absurdity i read since i was last here.

    CU did nothing wrong. period. any person with any intelligence at all would know that CR didn't imply that a suzuki would roll over in routine driving. they didn't hide anything. bottom line - suzuki wasn't going anywhere with their lawsuit.

    there's nothing unfair about the jetta's reliability record and VW in general doesn't hold a candle to toyota and honda in this regard. it sure in the heck isn't only CR that comes to this conclusion and VW itself acknowledges their quality problems.

    i sure do hope they're serious about their new stringent quality program.

    what should be taken with a grain of salt are the LMAO conclusions that have been drawn.
  • jeffyscottjeffyscott Member Posts: 3,855
    I have no idea what you mean by "what should be taken with a grain of salt are the LMAO conclusions that have been drawn." Can you explain that because it is not clear what "conclusions" you are refering to.

    Agree that it seems to be common knowlege that VW reliability is not good. And I am not claiming that this is not true. But why is that not reflected in the price of extended warranties? Are the differences really less than many seem to think? Or do the extended warranty sellers just like VW owners so much that they subsidise their warranty cost? Or???

    Last fall we were looking at Jaguar X-type and Passat. My credit union has an extended warranty program, so I asked about the price. For Jaguar it was hugely expensive, Passat's (to my surprise) was quite reasonable. I think I may have even asked for a quote on a Camry or some such car for comparison, and there was not much difference between it and the Passat...but I am not positive that I did that.

    Since we are now considering the Jetta and the Volvo S40. Perhaps I will ask for extended warranty quotes on these and then get a quote on a Honda Accord for comparison.
  • bamacarbamacar Member Posts: 749
    How much were the Passat and Jaguar warranties? I know when I was car shopping there were big differences. The Honda Accord extended warranty was $700 for 7years 100k miles. Others were from 900-2500. Since the Accord comes with a minimal basic warranty, that cheap of an extended warranty says a lot about its reliability to me especially when the warranties are profit centers for the carmakers.
  • ivan_99ivan_99 Member Posts: 1,681
    I’m not sure, but reliability ratings may not take into account the type of reliability problems.

    I’m not saying this applies to the Jetta, but I would take two window regulators and a blown out tail light to a corrupt transmission. I believe in this scenario the Jetta would have 3 problems to the other car’s one problem.

    Therefore the car with three repairs compared to the other car’s one would make it seem much more unreliable, even though the total cost may be cheaper to fix.

    Or not…
  • avenger1avenger1 Member Posts: 90
    Actually there have been no conclusions listed here. We actually have posted from CR OWN press releases that they (CR) admitted that they worded the flipover warning too strongly and down-played the "only in extreme maneuvers" bit. Both Suzuki and CR have made up, so there is no reason to "take sides". The case is over, let it go.

    As I said, no conclusions were made, just a common sense advice to look at all options before making a decision. I do hope that everyone makes well educated decisions in everything they do, and not take the word of one person/publication/entity as gospel.

    I get a whiff of the VW versus Honda vibe in the above post. My take - if you enjoy what you drive, you should care less what the other person drives. A better man/woman can turn the other cheek if something is said about what you drive (it's ONLY a car). Arguing over the 'net is so pointless, and life is too short to quibble about which car is more reliable. Besides, we have other forums for that kind of discussion. Can we get back to the Jetta?
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Administrator Posts: 11,242
    We're talking about the Jetta here - not about other manufacturers' warranties or even comparisons. Stick to the 2006 Jetta... ONLY.

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  • jimlockeyjimlockey Member Posts: 265
    My prediction is that current Passat owners will go for the new size Jetta. It has a back seat. I figure the new Passat will become to pricey.

    My second prediction is the currenct price of fuel will slow down the sales of muscle cars and big SUV's. Last but not least, the price of fuel will not go down very much if at all.
  • jeffyscottjeffyscott Member Posts: 3,855
    "price of fuel will slow down the sales of...big SUV's"

    I sure hope so, I am really tired of having my life threatened by those. I won't mind paying $2.50 or $3.00 per gallon for gas, if it results in the extinction of that species of vehicle.
  • merc1merc1 Member Posts: 6,081
    I was at a traffic light the other day and I was surrounded by them. I mean in back and on both sides and in front of me. I really got annoyed for the first time in my life, about SUV being on the road. I mean bigs ones too, not just Rav4s and such. Yuck.

    M
  • avenger1avenger1 Member Posts: 90
    At first I felt jilted that VW took the arrogant stance that "if you couldn't afford the passat anymore (because we want to raise the price), then you can always get a jetta". I felt that VW wanted to punish it's bread-and-butter customers because VW covets the luxury segment (with higher prices and profits). I also felt VW assumed it's fans would stick to VW, but many have fled to Subaru (the new VW) for fun to drive cars/wagons, and Honda (for reliability).

    After seeing the new jetta, I feel somewhat less jilted because the new jetta is a step up from the old jetta. But even if you settle for a jetta, you still get punished for getting a lower model. For example, you get a lesser TDI engine. I understand the price points are different, but if I want a bigger TDI and willing to pay for it, why isn't the option there? And yes, the bigger TDI is available in the Jetta everywhere else, just not the US.

    My point? I hope VW rethinks it's stance towards budget minded VW fans, before they leave for competing brands that are starting to offer euro style and performance (the new saturns will be opels, even new fords/mazdas are sharing with volvo, etc). VW needs to remember what VW stands for.
  • jeffyscottjeffyscott Member Posts: 3,855
    We will be test driving the new Jetta soon. We will probably decide between the Jetta and a Volvo S40 after driving them both. Those were our top two choices after looking at and sitting in many cars at recent auto show.

    Not wanting vinyl or leather seating surfaces, if we were to decide to buy one we would wait for the value edition to appear. The problem is if we want the S40 we will have to order one within the next month to get it configured the way we want it. So we will have to decide between the two before we get to actually see the value edition, if we want to get a car this year.

    I know from the brochure that I picked up at the auto show that the Value edition does not include:

    Dual-zone Climatronic automatic climate control
    Multifunction trip computer with compass
    Rain sensor with automatic wiper speed control
    Heatable front seats

    Not having those features is not a problem for us. But I am wondering what other differences there are (aside from cloth instead of "leatherette").

    Does anyone know of any reliable pictures of the US Value edition Jetta, especially of the interior? Is their any other reliable information on what the differences will be?
  • venus537venus537 Member Posts: 1,443
    have no idea what you mean by "what should be taken with a grain of salt are the LMAO conclusions that have been drawn."

    it was nothing you wrote. :)

    in my opinion the new jetta blows away the volvo40. i too have considered the volvo s40. unless you like the styling of the s40 way much better than the jetta i'll be surprised if you pick the volvo.
  • venus537venus537 Member Posts: 1,443
    I'm not sure, but reliability ratings may not take into account the type of reliability problems.

    CR does apply different weights to problems (unlike JD Powers).
  • ivan_99ivan_99 Member Posts: 1,681
    JD Power…that must have been it…I remember reading a few years ago that a faulty transmission and a glove box latch would both be counted as “another” problem.

    The small things don’t really bother me (if caught within warranty period)…it’s the show stoppers, i.e. being stranded on the side of the road, which is intolerable.
  • venus537venus537 Member Posts: 1,443
    Actually there have been no conclusions listed here. We actually have posted from CR OWN press releases that they (CR) admitted that they worded the flipover warning too strongly and down-played the "only in extreme maneuvers" bit. Both Suzuki and CR have made up, so there is no reason to "take sides".

    i'll let others be the judge that you didn't come to some absurd conclusions from the press releases you posted.

    since it was susuki doing the suing and then dropping the case and CR not retracting their position i would say CR was vindicated.

    FYI, my previous two cars were jettas and my next car will likely be a vw/audi product. however, my current car is an accord. accept for the replacement of the ignition coils with my last jetta i didn't have any reliability problems with my jettas.

    but it's just a little silly to say that the jetta's has taken a "unfair beating" in terms of reliability. i'm not saying the ignition coils were not a big part of the problem (heck even CR mentioned that) but there were times when there was a shortage of these coils and people had to have only the defected coil replaced and come back later to have the others replaced.

    also, the mexican plant and the workers who assemble the jetta do a first rate job in my opinion. i blame VW for not having better quality control over their suppliers.
  • jeffyscottjeffyscott Member Posts: 3,855
    I still wonder what that meant...

    And you were right we are going for the Jetta when the value edition comes. Liked it better and will save about $4000
  • venus537venus537 Member Posts: 1,443
    i'll get the negative stuff out of the way first...

    the 2.5 is more than adequate as a base engine but i'm used to much better. i think i would get tired of the not so pleasant engine whine.

    and what's with the wind noise at the A pillar. hopefully when it's my turn to get a jetta (if i get one) VW will have fixed this.

    the stalk columns feel somewhat brittle (along with the buttons on them) and three is one too many. the cruise control controls would be suited better on the steering wheel.

    now for the good stuff...

    the ride was fantastic! the jetta went down the road in an incredible ignot solid manner. add to that the great agility of the car and you have one premium ride. you would have a hard time knowing that the front wheels are both pulling and steering the car.

    nothing near the jetta's price range comes close in this regard. some may handle as well but not with the magic carpet ride. if you value superb driving dynamics then you'll have no problem with the prices.

    the six speed automatic was smooth and responsive. it could use a smoother engine to work with though.

    i was surprised by how much i like the leatherette in beige. my big concern would be how durable it would be after time.

    like the previous generation jetta, the new one comes with plenty of thoughtful features usually not available in this price range. some examples: the volume of the stereo adjusts depending on speed, the front passenger seat can fold flat and there's automatic headlights.

    while i don't like all aspects of the interior's quality/design it is overall an elegant place to be.

    i can't wait for the 2.0T engine w/DSG. you'll have one swEEEt car for under $30k. though many sources have said the gas turbo will be available as an option for the "regular" jettas i have yet to hear this from VW officially.

    the test car was the jetta 2.5 with package one. this equipment level would suit me find (with the 2.0t of course) if the leatherette would prove to be durable.
  • dl7265dl7265 Member Posts: 1,381
    A friend stopped to look at one, So I took a peak.Not unlike the A4 I think the New model looks much better in person that the photos I have seen.The vehicle was parked next to the former model and after a few looks it started looking long in the tooth .(never thought id say that). I happen to notice that inside the headlight bezel its a VW, lots of detail.For $20,300 with locking /folding rear seats, heated seats,6disk cd in dash changer ect...thats a lot of value .

    DL
  • byorkbyork Member Posts: 1
    I'm interested in leasing the Jetta 2.5 (value edition, manual) and I tried to find some pricing information (residual, money factor) but wasn't successful so far.
    Are any information out yet, or is it still to early?

    Thanks, Brian
  • cdstrawcdstraw Member Posts: 12
    I test drove an 05 Jetta TDI this weekend. Very nice! Salesforce stated that VW will not be offering an 06 Jetta TDI.

    I really like the fuel economy of the TDI, but I would like the amenities of the 06 Jetta. Anyone know if/when VW will offer the 06 Jetta with TDI?

    Thanks!
  • rivwguyrivwguy Member Posts: 6
    The VW dealer doesn't know their product. I work for a large VW/BMW/Mazda/Jeep dealer in RI and we have gotten word that the TDI's are about 6 months out. The only thing VW has discontinued for sure is the Jetta wagon in this market.
  • venus537venus537 Member Posts: 1,443
    the new jettas are trickling into the dealerships. you would think there would be more comments about the car since you can drive them now.
  • venus537venus537 Member Posts: 1,443
    there's a delay in the introduction of the new jetta TDI - available in May(?).

    i find it very hard to believe that any VW salesforce wouldn't know this.
  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,358
    I prefer the styling of the 2006 wagon posted a few pages back to the sedan I drove. The ride and handling is all there, but the rest came up short. Here is what I posted to Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous:

    Test drove one of these today. Fully loaded, $26,xxx was the sticker. No manuals available yet, so it was the six-speed automatic. Pretty nice, but I don't care for the styling. Some cost cutting from the previous generation--no more chrome sill around the trunk, no more illuminated vents (deleted in 2004). It has the hair-trigger throttle, just like my old VR6. 2.5 liter I5 was not as smooth as the VR6. From the short test drive, I'm not sold on it at all.
     
    I did the test drive at Neil Huffman Volkswagen in Louisville, KY. The salesman fit the stereotype. He recounted how, when he bought his last car, he looked at the lots at night, when the dealerships were closed, and narrowed it down to two cars before he involved a salesperson--and made some other remarks basically implying I was wasting his time. If VW doesn't completely kill itself with its quality problems, its dealers will finish the task with their poor salesmanship and service.
  • venus537venus537 Member Posts: 1,443
    i think you're getting a lot of car for the price. the one glaring exception though is the refinement of the 2.5l engine for a $27k car (jetta 2.5 w/pck2).

    VW should only have the pck 2 available on 2.0t Jettas. what good is it to be surrounded by all that "luxury" with an economy sounding engine?
  • venus537venus537 Member Posts: 1,443
    it was also nice that the previous vents were flushed when closed. and did you notice that the lining in the trunk was not as nice?

    the salesman response to my trunk lining observation - "but the opening is larger". i gave him the "that's hardly the point" look.

    you may want to consider the audi A3 - if you're not already.
  • bob317bob317 Member Posts: 1
    I took delivery of my new Jetta last Friday. I'm told it was the first one sold. It's the Package 2 edition, with leather, wood trim, XM radio, etc. The graphite blue with grey interior is really sharp.

    What's not to love about this car? The handling is super. I intentionally pushed the envelope on some windy hills and it really sticks to the road. The sport mode and the tiptronic feel really good too, if you're into the driving experience.

    Heated seats with position memory, dual climate control, 10-speaker sound system with 6-CD changer, front & rear disc brakes, ABS, sunroof... it's all good.

    I'll be happy to answer any questions here. -- Bob
  • fish8fish8 Member Posts: 2,282
    I am glad your happy with your new Jetta. It seems like a great car and I look forward to driving on.......enjoy!
  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,358
    ***you may want to consider the audi A3 - if you're not already.***

    I am. There's a new Audi dealer opening in Lexington, where I live. I need to find out which dealer group owns it, as there is one I will not give my business to. I'm hoping for some good lease deals on the new A3.
  • aokvwaokvw Member Posts: 3
    Can someone here tell me about this engine? Is it the old 5 cylinder engine Audi had, that sometimes was used in the late 80s Quantums? Is it 1/2 of the V10 engine block as used in the Lamborghini Gallardo? I saw one at the dealer today in PA- SWEET!

    Mike

    2004 Touareg, V-8
    1999.5 Jetta TDI GLS
    1992 Passat GL, 4 cyl
  • avenger1avenger1 Member Posts: 90
    I'll be in the market for a new car in the near future, and have been looking at the jetta for a while. My question is this -

    What is the rear room difference in the new jetta versus the 5 foor golf V? Do they have the same dimensions?

    I would prefer a hatch/wagon over the sedan. And the wagon version of the jetta will be a few years out.

    Anyone know much about the interior dimensions of the Jetta vs the golf?
  • cdstrawcdstraw Member Posts: 12
    May would be a good time frame for me to purchase an 06 Jetta TDI.
    I did go to a different dealership than the one that told me that 06 Jetta TDI's would not be available. I talked to the new dealership about the 05 Jetta TDI's. They had none on the lot. All had been sold the week before. Conversation with the dealer centered on that TDI's have instantly become very popular. The media stating that gas prices are going up and are probably not going down are fueling a run for a fuel efficient vehicle. (Pun's not intended)

    Regardless, dealer located an 05 Jetta TDI that I would probably like. They would like me to put down a deposit and they will have the 05 Jetta TDI transferred to their dealership for me. However now I am waffling because I like the look and amenities of the 06 better. Waiting 3 months for an 06 TDI would be acceptable for me. Waiting 6 months would be too long.

    I understand the price for the 06 TDI will be higher than the 05 TDI, but if I don't take the available 05 TDI, they may not be able to provide the 06 TDI within my time frame for purchase.

    Specifically, I want the Sedan, Platinum Gray Ex., Gray Int., Manual Trans (Stick Guy), ESP, TDI engine, Leather and cold weather packages. Already approved for financing through CU. Just a matter of getting what I want, not what the dealer has available.
  • venus537venus537 Member Posts: 1,443
    the new jetta TDI (i think it's still considered a 05 model) should be available in May 05 if not sooner.

    keep in mind that if you want leather you're going to get the top trim line (called pck 2). otherwise everything else you mentioned comes standard in the new TDI model. the standard upholstery is leatherette (vinyl) unless you get the pck 2 trim.
  • 600kgolfgt600kgolfgt Member Posts: 690
    The 2.5 liter is indeed 1/2 of the Lamborghini Gallardo V10, right down to the chain-driven overhead cams (as opposed to timing belts).
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    I drove an 05.5 new Jetta package 2 last night as part of the Jetta Road Show. I was suprised at how big it was. It had lots of nice features and drove solidly. Plenty of rear legroom.

    The 2.5 had plenty of pickup and power even with the slushbox - spent most of my time in the sport mode. Handling was nice. Trunk was huge and had the nice articulating hinges which was suprising as the next Passat has goosenecks.

    Misses:

    No rear seat power point. There is one in the dash, the console, and the trunk but one in the rear seat would be nice for my kids travel gear.

    Driver tunnel - my right leg was up against the console. A little uncomfortable but not a killer.

    Price - I realize it's a new vehicle with loads of features but $26K for a Jetta is a bit rich. Will this price jump be too much??
  • jeffyscottjeffyscott Member Posts: 3,855
    $26K is for the one loaded with every currently available option. Value Edition is about $18,500 w/MTX and 19,500 w/ATX.

    I believe this price range is similar to the current (too small) Jetta.
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    $26K is for the one loaded with every currently available option. Value Edition is about $18,500 w/MTX and 19,500 w/ATX.

    I realize that but whatever car I am going to buy will have the features available in the Jetta w P2 - leather, sunroof, 6 CD, memory seats, et al. The Value Edition isn't what I want. At $26K, it's in TSX territory which has a better reputation and longer warranty.

    I believe this price range is similar to the current (too small) Jetta.

    Current Jetta GLS loaded stickers at $23,200.

    I'm not saying it's not worth it to some people. I just feel that $26K MSRP for a Jetta isn't a good value for me.
  • maxamillion1maxamillion1 Member Posts: 1,467
    If you expect to find a car like the Jetta with Pkg. 2, expect to pay MORE than $26K for it.

    The Acura TSX is in a similar price range, but lacks the Jetta's memory driver's seat.

    Also, the price of the GLS you mention is pretty good, but it DOES NOT include climate control, memory seats or power seats for that matter...

    Only GLX models had these features and the GLX has LONG been retired.

    So, I get your point...it does seem crazy to have to pay that much for a Jetta, but it has features that no other car in its class has...

    And like you, I think the TSX represents the better value.
  • jeffyscottjeffyscott Member Posts: 3,855
    One correction the TSX does not have a longer warranty. VW has 4yr./50K mi full, 6yr/60K power train, 12 year unlimited mileage rust.

    You can get some version of the current Jetta up to over $26K. My point was that as of right now the price range of the current one is comparable to the new one.
  • robr2robr2 Member Posts: 8,805
    OK - I didn't realize the VW warranty was 4 yr/50K.

    As for the current Jetta hitting $26K - show me. I used Edmunds and other than adding a spoiler there wasn't anything else I could add to it.

    I just went to NADA guides and used a GLS Auto with CA/NE emissions, added everything including on-star (no longer offered) and every little do dad (spoilers, cargo mats, splash guards) and hit $24,217. It's still a 10% jump to $26K.
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