2013 and earlier-Acura TL Prices Paid and Buying Experience

avaguy

A salesman at Chevy Chase Acura in the DC area mentioned "$2,000 Dealer Cash" in an email to me. My regular salesman at Radley Acura in Falls Church, VA mentioned "new incentives just announced until the end of the month. I'm researching an 08 TL w/o navi. Got one quote of $31,705 but that was before this announcement.

23109vc

can you get the $2000 incentive if you lease or is that only on a purchase?

charles12

I forget to tell you it is 100% money back for the $1476 after 7 years/10000 miles, if the car does not have any problem - no service.

Does it worth to buy the extra coverage?

eprailick

$31,705 is $1.00 under the total dealer invoice price for that model of $31,706. It's still $1,012 more than the invoice price less the dealer holdback, so the price you've been quoted is 3.2% more than the dealer's bottom line cost. Not bad, but I'm still trying to understand the "$2,000 dealer cash." If that's a legitimate incentive above and beyond the holdback, the dealer's actual cost would be $28,694, and your quote of $31,705 would be a 10.5% mark-up - not a great deal.

lockgiants

i think acura gives the 2k back to the dealer after a purchase

davewolfs

Hello everyone,

The recent incentives for the TL have my wife and I looking at purchasing a new TL.

We are planning on leasing and require 15k miles per year.

What kind of pricing should we expect?

We are looking at either the Standard TL or S type.

As you know, the standard TL right now is going for 2k down + 1k cap cost and the monthly payment is 359 a month + taxes. Should I expect to do a lot better then this? Can some of you throw out the numbers that you have recently gotten with your purchases?

Thanks,

Dave

smack518

Has anyone had any recent experience buying a 2008 TL+Nav in the Philly/South Jersey area? Hoping to buy one before year end, and wondering what prices people are seeing.

Also does anyone have any experience dealing with Piazza Acura in Ardmore or Elite Acura in Maple Shade?

Thanks!

laurasdada

You still lose the use of your $1476 for 7 years. With a little luck/skill you can double your money in 7 years. However, if it will allow you to sleep at night, buy the warranty.

Just be sure that it covers everything that may actually be costly ro repair! And, as I'm not familiar with the extended warranty details, if you make any kind of claim against it, even for a couple of hundred $, can you still get all your money back? The money-back feature would almost seem to be a dis-incentive to make a claim, unless it was big ticket item...

I'd keep my money and invest it. But that's just me, YMMV.

mpw407

Does the $31,705 include the destination charges?

avaguy

Yes ... the $31,705 included the destination.

oc2020

That includes the $250 destination.

socalif714

Here is CURRENT PRICING from Southern Calif: SIERRA ACURA (in Alhambra, CA):

CLEARANCE SALE ON ALL NEW 2008 TL'S IN STOCK. HURRY IN! SALE ENDS ON SUN DEC 16, 2007:
MSRP ------ SALE PRICE

2008 TL PREMIUM, NO NAVIGATION: ...... $34,440 ........ $29,208*

2008 TL WITH NAVIGATION: .................... $36,940 ........ $31,448*

2008 TL TYPE-S WITH NAVIGATION: ....... $38,940 ........ $33,258*

These prices include the Destination Charge and the following Dealer installed options: Wheel Locks and Splash Guards. Also, your 1st OIL change is on us.

* Prices quoted are before any government fees and taxes, any finance charges, any dealer document preparation charge, and CA tire disposal fee. Prices quoted cannot be combined with any AHFC Special financing or Special Leases. Prices quoted are valid only through the Internet Dept., for vehicles in stock, and are subject to change at dealer's discretion.

We also have Special Rates and Special Leases on all TL's, please stop by for details.**
** Special offer financing rates as low as 2.9% for 36 month and 4.9% for 60 month. Subject to credit approval, and are not available for the prices quoted.

bif

I'm in New York. The best quote I've been given on a TL with nav is 34,400. Nobody has mentioned anything about an incentive, other than 2.9% financing, so I think I'll wait till after the first of the year to buy.

eastbayacura

Hello ,

I got quote for a 08 acura TL in phoenix area for 30500 . Is this a good deal ?

- A

23109vc

went by the local dealer today on my lunch break to see what they had.

they have 5 on the lot. internet manager greeted me and I told him I was looking at the TL-S

he said they will do one at invoice. that was without any haggling or anything.

makes me think you could get them to go even lower....

and this was when I told him i would lease...not buy....

what is the cheapest i could expect to get a TL for if I leased it.

for a 2008 TL-S : what is the price (before TTL) at which I should think - they are NOT making any money on the car....because obviously there is a point at which they will say no. there is anothe rpoint at which they may be making someting, but it's pitiful to where they are just moving a vehicle..and are getting screwed.

given how slow the market is, and how slow it is on the TLs right now...what with the 09s around the corner....what price should I shoot for as the "i really screwed them over" price.???

julianne7

I got quotes from 3 different dealers over emails. I am in northeast region.
Then went to the first dealer today... by the time I got out of the shop.
I got a quote of $33,900 + tax and fees on 08 TL Type S with some accessories (floor mats, cargo mats, wheel lock..)
Is it a good price? or should I go to the next dealer? (or wait more)

23109vc

was this for a lease or purchase? and was it using their special interest rates or were you just giving them a check?

i am under the impression that invoice on this car is around 35,500 ish...it's posted elsewhere on these boards...and that most people who are LEASING are getting the cars AT invoice, or marginally over, but not UNDER.

if you BUY and do NOT use Acura's special interest rates, then you can get another $2000 OFF so you could negotiate down to around 33,500. if that is the case, then you are withi a few hundred bucks of rock bottom.

given what I have read so far, I am assuming your quote was NOT for a lease and NOT for their low interest rates, but just to buy it..and you are brining the money from elsewhere...you either financed on your own somewhere else or are just pyaing cash for the car.

??

julianne7

Yeah,
they said either take $2000 off (with 6.9%) or special financing option (2.9% up to 36 mo, 4.9% up to 60 mo). I can get the $2000 off and get a better APR at my bank.

brunna

I posted my thoughts on the G on the other forum, but I am hoping to drive the TL-S tomorrow for comparison. I have always been a "Honda" guy, so I have high hopes. I just got off the phone with the internet manager at Radley, who told me that today they announced you can take the dealer cash AND the 4.9% financing over 60 mos. Now that's what I'm talking about! He gave me the internet price (no haggling yet) for the only remaining 2007 TL-S of $33,137. They have 16, 2008's in stock right now and the price is only $700 more ($33,837). I think we can eat into the holdback a little bit more to get down to $32,900, don't you? Has anyone driven both of these vehicles recently and can give me your opinion please? Thanks.

23109vc

the trick is to try and get THAT price, eating into the holdback AND get a lease with the .00081 MF!

peednas

1. I am planning to buy acura 2008 TL S with navigation either from San Diego or Minneapolis. I am moving to Minneapolis in two weeks. So either I can buy it in San Diego and negotiate locally, and get the car shipped to MN or I can buy it in MN, the problem with that is I think won't be able to negotiate much over the phone in my opinion. What do you suggest?

2. Secondly, I was trying to get the invoice price on 2008 TL S with navigation, but I couldn't get the exact figure anywhere. If you can help me with that, it will be great. I have heard about $2000 dealer cash, is it true?

3. I have made a folder with credit report, financing documents. But I have quote from only one dealer from San Diego. What else do you think I would need?

4. What should be the offer price for 2008 TL S with navigation according to you?

Your opinion will really be helpful in making a decision. Thanks - Sandeep

skinnytony

According to Edmunds the incentive is actually $2,500 factory to dealer cash on the '07, not the '08. My hunch is that a combination of factors is pushing dealers to offer discounts on the '08: end of year, sales aren't great, and the TL will be redesigned for '09. But that's just speculation. I've been shopping the new Accord but was shocked when quoted well under invoice on the base TL. Now I'm just trying to decide whether the base TL is worth $3,500+ more than the new Accord EX-L V6 (on which my best current offer is $300 over invoice).

wolveseatsheep

Now I'm just trying to decide whether the base TL is worth $3,500+ more than the new Accord EX-L V6 (on which my best current offer is $300 over invoice).

I thought the same thing until I test drove the newest Accord. I don't like it - they've made it too big for me. And petty as it seems, I can't get over the oversized spaceship command looking console with one big huge knob in the middle that isn't the volume and radio/satelite preset buttons that extend 10 inches wide.

For an extra $3,500, it's a no brainer for me. I'm hoping to squeeze one of the remaining 2007 TL's w/Nav from my local dealer (he still has 5 that have been there 2 months) for $31k the week after Christmas. I think I have a pretty legit shot, we'll see.

If we slip into a recession, I'd be willing to bet that 2008 TLs w/nav will dip below $30k by next fall. If we manage to fend off a recession, I still think $30k for one next summer isn't out of the question.

skinnytony

wolves, you said they've made it too big for me re the Accord, but is it any bigger than the TL?

I agree, the TL is clearly the better vehicle. I just don't know if it's $3,500+ better.

I also agree your chances are pretty good to get that deal. None of the dealers near me have any '07's left so not an option for me. But now that they seem to be going almost as low on an '08 I am considering it. I just hate buying cars in the last year before a design change!

wolveseatsheep

I don't know the specs but it certainly felt very large to me compared to previous generation Accords and to the current TL. Maybe it was my imagination. Just felt like a big ol' cavernous sedan to me. Bottom line, didn't feel right for me. Maybe it's because I'm a short guy at 5-9.

I also find the console way too big and very unintuitive.



The TL just feels almost perfect to me when I'm driving it, the (new) Accord does not. My old Accords did. It's worth 3500 or more to me.">

wolveseatsheep

Accord is definitely bigger (although, oddly, weighs less):

2008 Acura TL:
Exterior
Length: 189.3 in.
Width: 72.2 in.
Height: 56.7 in.
Wheel Base: 107.9 in.
Ground Clearance: 4.4 in.
Curb Weight: 3636 lbs.
Interior
Front Head Room: 38.7 in.
Front Hip Room: 55.6 in.
Front Shoulder Room: 58.3 in.
Rear Head Room: 37.2 in.
Rear Shoulder Room: 55.7 in.
Rear Hip Room: 53.8 in.
Front Leg Room: 42.8 in.
Rear Leg Room: 34.9 in.
Luggage Capacity: 12.5 cu. ft.

2008 Honda Accord:
Exterior
Length: 194.3 in.
Width: 72.7 in.
Height: 58.1 in.
Wheel Base: 110.2 in.
Curb Weight: 3616 lbs.
Interior
Front Head Room: 39 in.
Front Hip Room: 56.6 in.
Front Shoulder Room: 58.2 in.
Rear Head Room: 37.2 in.
Rear Shoulder Room: 56.4 in.
Rear Hip Room: 54.3 in.
Front Leg Room: 42.5 in.
Rear Leg Room: 37.2 in.
Luggage Capacity: 14 cu. ft.

mpw407

Yesterday I took back to back test drives of the 2008 Acura TL and the 2008 Honda Accord V6. Except for the road noise, the Accord is a great car. However, I also thought it was just too big. Looking over that massive hood just reminded me of the older American designs.

The navigation on the TL is also nicer. The Accord does not have touch screen and the backup camera is approximately a $500 option.

brunna

Last night I went to Criswell Acura in Annapolis and had a great test drive. I stated earlier that I have always been a "Honda" man, so when I got in this car I felt right at home. It just fit me perfectly, and wow!, what a fantastic all-around great automobile. It was love at first drive. Unfortunately, they would not give me one penny of the $2,000 cash from Acura toward my purchase price; they were dead set on "invoice". I called the guy from Radley Acura in Falls Church, VA as soon as I left Criswell and told him the color I wanted (carbon bronze over taupe) and they had it in stock. He quoted me $33,837 which equates to invoice minus the $2,000. I asked for a ballpark figure on my trade and what the doc fees were. He said "come in tomorrow and we'll get it done". Yes, they are open on Sunday halleluya! I went today and haggled a bit over my trade, but in the end saved almost $900 versus the best deal from Criswell. This is a GREAT car at a GREAT price right now. I paid $33,700 including destination because he misquoted the doc fees and I made him eat the difference (well half the difference to be exact, about $125). All-in-all, a great experience from Hadley and I am the happy owner of a new '08 TL-S! Thanks to everyone who posts and is willing to share solid information on these forums. I'll post my ownership experience after a few more miles, but I couldn't be happier.

turambar1

If it were me, I would probably buy it in San Diego as the market is more competitive with more dealers in SoCal than it is in MN where it's more of a sellers market.

Invoice with destination on a 08 Type-S TL is $35,852 and there is $2k of trunk money for the dealer. With a little bit of leg work, you should be able to get to around $1,500 below cost if you get multiple quotes.

Good luck

23109vc

brunna-

did you use the Acura financing rates or did you just take in your own check? I was under the impression that you CAN'T use that $2000 dealer cash on a LEASE, but you might be able to do it and STILL use their low APR rates....

how did you do it.

nice deal BTW!

peednas

I finally got TL S with navigation for invoice price ($33998) - $1700 (dealer cash discount) = $32298 + tax + license .. this is inclusive of destination charge.. .. I did get 4.9% financing too..I hope this info is helpful to someone who is thinking of buying TL S.. at the beginning of the talks I mentioned that I went to other dealer and I gave him the figures.. Once he heard the exact invoice price, the expression on his face changed significantly..

23109vc

ok. i'm not a finance guy... so some of you may have to set me straight on what the "smart" "money savvy" people do..but here is my basic analysis.

i can buy the TL-S or lease it.

if I BUY it, I can get the $2000 off the purchase price and get the cost of the car down to $33700 or so. current rates are around 5%. I'd finance for 60 months.

If I LEASE, the MF = .00081. the cap cost would be $2000 higher since I'd be taking advantage of the super low MF.

so taking into account the difference in price vs whether I buy or lease...

I come up wtiha basic lease where I Put down $1000, finance at 4.9% over 60 months, and get a pyament of $675

if I lease, for 36 months, and put down $1000 only, I geta lease payment of: $489.

that figure is WITH tax.

so $489 for 36 months. OR $675 for 60 months.

if you add up all the payments over 60 months, the total paid = $40,500.

if you add up the 36 months of lease payments and then ADD in the residual value, you get $39021.

so it's actually $1500 cheaper to lease it than buy?!?

obviously, the guy who leases, and CAN'T pony up 21k over the next two years will have to pay even more in term sof fees/finance costs pushign the overall cost up to or more than the guy who just bought it over 60 months.

here has been my big "beef" with financing. and keep in mind, this problem only applies to people (like me) who are financing most of the purchase price. if you have 20k to put down, this doen'st really apply.

for the average joe to keep payments in the 4-500 range, you need to go out to 60-72 months for financing. so now you have this loan you will have to live with for 5-6 years, but the warranty runs out at around 4 years. so in year 4,5,6 you are paying FOR the car AND you will buy fixing stuff. even on an Acura, stuff is going to wear out and require repairs. some of these are not cheap. so you wind up spending an arm and a leg in the last few years of your loan. and usually, it takes you to this point to NOT be upside down...forget tryin to sell that car in your 2 or 3rd year of the loan..you are uspide down. so it's only when you are off warranty, and eating it up the you know what in repair bills that you can get rid of the car and not lose money.

the ONLY way you make out is to keep the car for a decade, and get it paid off, and then "enjoy" year 7,8,9 and 10 with no payments. those years you only pay to repair, and if they are small enough, you will come out ahead. problem is you also get to "enjoy" an old car. if you don't give a crap about cars, then that's great. if you like cars and constantly fantaszie about teh new stuff, more hp, etc...you'll be miserable driving your 8 year old POS that is "payment" free.

bottom line, I think leasing is better. but educate me as to where i'm wrong.

keep in mind i'm assuming the following:
you can drive 12-15k/year and be ok.
you love carsa dn the idea of driving an 8 or 9 year old car makes you puke

kyfdx

In the past, the lease deal wasn't that great, and I would've recommended buying..

But, with the current lease deal, it makes more sense to buy, than lease this particular model, at this particular time, assuming the lease term/mileage meets your needs..

regards,
kyfdx

chward93

Are you certain that's the TL-S? It appears you've given the invoice for a TL with Nav including the 715 destination charge.

chward93

What do you guys think?

2008 TL with Nav:
MSRP = 36940; which includes the 715 destination charge
invoice = 33998; determined via autos.yahoo.com, also includes dest. charge
factory to dealer incentives = 2000; alleged, but very likely true
"adjusted invoice" = 31998; from 33998-2000

My quote = 32308.05 + delivery fee + T + T + L + state battery/tire fee

I think it's pretty good.

23109vc

I think you MEANT..it makes more sense to lease than to buy??
right?

brunna

You can get both the cash and the financing. I ended up putting $4,000 on my credit card so I can get some more points (he wouldn't let me do more). I will pay that off at month's end of course, and then I put down $4,000 cash in addition to my trade, then financed the rest at 4.9% for 60 months. I got my payment to $343 per month this way by choice.

The price of the car INCLUDING destination was $33,700. Then I paid 5% tax in MD, and a couple hundred for tags and doc fees.

24 hours later and I am absolutely loving this car. Fast and furious and fun. Neat article in Car and Driver about the fastest sedans between $30-$40K this month. The TL-S comes in at #7. See this: http://www.caranddriver.com/features/14400/the-quickest-sedans-of-2008-30000-to-- 40000.html

skinsfan1

I went to two separate dealerships in the Baltimore, MD area today and was given the prices of $31706 and $30200. Neither included TTL. How much lower do you think I can get on the $30200 quote... If the vehicle invoice is $31706 (as was told by dealer #1), can I get the $2000 dealer cash back (that many have mention in this forum) on that price? or on the second quote? Has anyone else in the Washington/Baltimore region done better?
Thanks

kyfdx

Geez.. ever have one of those days? :sick:

Yes, the current lease deal is very good.... I would lease, rather than buy..

kaisu04

TL in Minneapolis is priced roughly invoice - 2k incentive. It is probably better buy it here than shipping from so.cal.

alphasux

Everyone is talking about these 2K incentives.

Are these regional?

Where do you hear about them?

Yahoo Auto's doesn't seem to list them and they often do list dealer incentives.

peednas

Turambar... You are right! Invoice for TL is 35852, I was wrong in my earlier post on two counts ..first I quoted the price for TL with Nav ..instead of TL S ..and second I said I have bought the car ..as I was under the impression that I have squared away everything (except my wife's approval :-) ...). !

Anyway, someone just now advised me to rethink about buying TL S as it is FWD and since it snows in Minnesota I should go for a 3 series with AWD.. this brings me back to square one and I am confused yet one more time! This just starts everything from scratch and I hate the whole process of buying a car even more .. anyway thanks a lot for your help guys! ...

23109vc

if you put down 4k cash, paid 4k on a credit card and had a "trade" that netted you a 343/month paymnet using 4.9/60 months, then your trademust have been worth something like 10,000?

so really, you basically put down 18,000. right?

no way am i putting down that kind of money.

23109vc

i've seen posts saying you CAN'T use Acura's special finance rates/ leases AND take advantage of the 2k dealer cash.

yet i see people posting that you CAN ge the specialfinancing..like 4.9/60 months AND get the 2k.

why not push for the lease AND the dealer cash? is that POSSIBLE? i mean, could the dealer do it if they wanted, or is that NEVER going to happen????

if they can do the low APR on the loan and dip into the dealer cash, why not on a lease???

chward93

I am almost certain that you can combine them.

In the quote I was given referenced above: "attached is a HTML document containing information about "dealership name"'s Acura and Special Drive Home for the Holidays promotional internet pricing for the TL Navi. Also, please see our web site at "..." for special financing options that are also part of this promotion."

I haven't spoken with this salesman yet, he's off today, but I don't see any reason why one can't combine them based on the quotation above.

kyfdx

The cash back isn't compatible with the special lease...

skinsfan1

I just spoke to a salesman at an Acura dealership in Laurel Md and he told me the 2k was also available for the special lease...

brunna

Your math is about dead on. I wanted the payment around $325-$350, so I put the extra cash down. I will never be upside down in a vehicle and I want to pay it off before the warranty runs out. I would've paid cash for the total price of the car, but they had 4.9%, so I went for it. Whomever is looking at the G35, BMW 3-series and the new CTS, stop by the Acura dealer and drive the TL-S, you will love it I promise.

kyfdx

Did he quote you a selling price and payment?

ohohohoh

Do you get the quote from the dealer in Laurel MD?