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The $2000 rebate has been on the books since at least the end of April. I doubt it will go away until the cars do.
I was quoted $17,700 (and they were offering to go lower) for a base model 08 forester from a Denver dealer over a month ago. (I would have done that deal, but have opted for the 09 instead.)
Re: putting money down when you have the option of the 0% financing.
I'd recommend only putting the minimum amount down. (I think this is $0 with that deal, but not sure.) Put your $12k where it can earn some interest and make your payments for your subie from that, as they are due. It may not be a lot of interest, but you will be money ahead. You will also have an extra year to save up (plus the interest on that "newly saved" money) before you have to start pulling from the "newly saved" money (ie the money you don't have now to pay for your car) to pay off the rest of your car.
The only reason not to do this is if you think you are not a good saver. but you have already saved $12k, so that doesn't seem to be the case.
MSRP (incl destination): $21,434;
Invoice: $20,043;
Price: $19,533 ($510 under invoice).
I got dealer installed leather seating added to it from Classic Soft Trims- paid $800 for it (got quoted $1425 directly from CST, and $1299 from all the Subaru dealers I asked in Austin). I paid for the leather in Houston- but will get it installed at the Austin CST tomorrow.
Total $20,333 plus TT&L (no unreasonable/ marked up charges). 2 year maintenance (at any Subaru dealership) was included at no extra charge.
Closest quote from Austin dealers was from Georgetown Subaru at $500 under invoice and $1299 for the aftermarket leather.
West Houston Subaru was hands- down the best price I ran into- and amazingly- the friendliest experience I had. Most of the negotiations were over email- with a final 15 minute phone conversation to close the deal. Highly recommend these guys- well worth the drive from Austin and/ or Dallas especially if you want to take the family for a mini vacation now that schools are out.
We pick ours up today! :shades:
Newport Blue Pearl Limited model, PZEV! I'll get pics when I get the chance.
I'm excited, we've been waiting a while for this special order to come in.
The exception is the VIP program, but they're prices are below invoice anyway.
I'll get my exact pricing tonight when we pick up ours, but to be honest I doubt the VIP will end up saving us any money.
Maybe it's worth it in some regions where pricing tends to be higher. Alaska for instance.
It'll be worth the wait.
I wish I could get the PZEV model here.
5 extra HP, plus it's cleaner. :shades:
So I'm in the market for an '09 Forester X Limited, and I'm in NJ so its also PZEV. My '05 Outback lease is up and here is what my local dealer, Wayne Subaru is offering...
Forester X Limited PZEV
$400 out of pocket
12 K miles a year
.00175 money factor
$399 a month.
I don't know if this is in line with what everyone else is paying, but I was a bit shocked it was so high. Back in May of '05 I must have gotten a super deal on my Outback LLBean b/c I did 2K out of pocket with a trailer hitch and I"m at $345 a month. Let me know if you think this is a good deal.
This is the current lease deal that Subaru is offering my my neck of the woods:
SPECIAL LEASE OFFER* ON 09 SUBARU FORESTER (9FA)
Now through June 30, 2008 - $249 per month for 39 months with $1,299 due at lease signing. $0 security deposit. Tax, title and registration fees extra. Other leases available on other models. Cannot be combined with any other incentives.
This is from Subaru website...put in your own zip code to see what is offered and don't forget to read the * part down below: http://www.subaru.com/tools/financialsolutions/special_offers.jsp?from=topNav
Good luck!
I did see that lease deal and it does apply for me locally as well....only problem is that deal is for the base X Forester and I'm shopping for the X Limited which throws off the equation.
To make matters worse nobody has any X-Limited in stock and dealers are saying the wait is 6 to 8 weeks which is really bad....thankfully I have time left on my outback lease, but subaru is really dropping the ball here...they release a new model and don't have inventory available to buy! Furthermore the price is not exactly attractive at 400 a month for a forester and now they are making me...a loyal subaru owner... consider other manufacturers --like a RAV4 --where there are some sweet deals right now.
Subie you need to step it up !
It's worth it, trust me! You get exactly what you want.
And on that note....
We were under the VIP program so it was 2% below invoice, which came out to $25,023 after adding the PZEV option, bumper cover, cargo cover, cargo liner, and mud flaps. It didn't come with cargo nets so they deducted that amount. I may install them myself later.
Dealer was Fitzgerald Subaru in Rockville, MD, AKA "fitzmall.com" for the famous web site.
Big kudos to the dealer, they really took care of us. We were in and out of there in less than one hour. 355 Toyota could learn from them, that deal took about 3-4 hours and was like a dentist's office visit compared to Fitz.
We had $1600 Subaru Bucks, so the price paid came down to only $23,423, pretty amazing.
Add 6% MD sales tax, and tags, of course.
1. What is the VIP program, and I assume that I can't try and leverage that if I don't even know what it is!
2. I hope to be a subaru owner forever...hope... so for uture purchases I'd love to leverage the subaru bucks thing.....how does that work and how do I get signed up?
Thanks!!!!!
I know it has been a long wait. Let us know how it is after you have been playing with it for a while...
Subaru bucks comes from using the Subaru Chase card and you earn 3% from your purchases up to 500 a year toward other purchases, service, etc.
We got our Chase Subaru credit card about 2 years after we bought our 2002 Legacy.
Prior to that we had a Toys-R-Us card and used the credits to buy diapers!
The kids got out of diapers, so we got the Subaru one, and have accumulated $2000 so far. $100 was spent on accessories and $300 in the body shop, though we cashed out because insurance paid us.
I recommend it, if it fits your needs. You earn 3% back, limited to $500 per year, and the best part is you don't have to buy a new Subaru to use them. You can ue it for CPO Subarus, parts, accessories, mechanical repairs, service, even body shop repairs. They're not hard to spend. The trick is saving them up!
http://www.firstusa.com/cgi-bin/webcgi/webserve.cgi?partner_dir_name=subaru&page- =cont&mkid=60MN&msc=Z0003088
09' Forester X Limited
PZEV
Not sure of the other options (auto dim mirror, methinks)
Definitely had the rear bumper cover
Dealer added crossbars, no charge.
$25500 total
Seems a bit high after visiting here, but same as what other dealers quoted...after bargaining.
Oh...my first Subie,
And Bill, the manager there, worked with me for over 2 months... and never pressured. Excellent sales manager.
289 document prep
1296 sales tax
85 plates
$27,601 total
Autodim mirror with home link
Luggage compartment cover
Puddle light kit
Is this a fair price?
I didn't get the auto dim mirror, and those aren't cheap, so it makes sense that yours would cost a little more.
I also did not get crossbars.
I went back to the dealership on Friday. No autodim mirror. Included mudflaps, luggage cover, and aero crossbars and all weather car mats. I'm calling him tomorrow to add:
The door trim (to protect)
The cargo tray (I think its useful)
May add the autodim mirror. It's hard to justify almost $200 bucks for a mirror (I can always just use my own garage door opener, and the GPS navigation unit I have has a pretty good compass.
I'll ask for what price he can add those things.
djm
I shopped around and went to Liberty Subaru in Oradell, NJ and got the best deal I've seen around.
Got the 09' X Limited, PZEV, White with Mud Flaps and Rear Bumper Cover
They sold me the car for $25,000 even... then add in the price of the flaps/bump cover (not sure but that's like another 150 bucks or something.
Net out.. I leased the car for 36 months, 12K miles a year, 790 out of pocket, 370 a month.
We have a Ltd model as well. The Beans are all gone, I suppose.
We're all lucky because these models are hard to find. I special ordered mine, and even when I took delivery my dealer did not have a single Bean or Limited in stock (and they have 2 locations!).
I was torn between a Dark Gray/Platinum Leather interior X Limited and a Base XT, beautiful, black pearl, and mean... I had just driven both of them, and was leaning towards the XT, but had the wife there, being all practical, had that green PZEV looking at me straight in the eye, and my inner hippie whispering 'forget the turbo, you're a family man, now, and gas is approaching 5 bucks a gallon, with no end in sight.', so here I am today, with the anemic limited (I guess there's more to the name than they intended
Ah, well, don't let me discourage you... It's my modus operandi, I can't make any decision without remorse... it would have been the same if I had gotten the XT. I'd be thinking about it every time I filled up with premium, or every time I got a ticket. My 40 year-old foot can't resist kicking the butt of a young punk in a Japanese econobox with the CD sized exhaust, the momo stickers, the R-type badging, and the wing from a 747, by stomping the gas of whatever vehicle I'm driving, and watching their ground effected front spoiler become a speck in my auto-dimming rear-view mirror...I feel it's my 'Civic' duty to do this.
Yes, it came to this, refinement over performance. I didn't have to choose, I could have jumped on an identical XT limited I saw at another dealership a few weeks ago, in the color scheme I just bought my limited in. Or I could have been patient and ordered one. Maybe I would have gotten Newport Blue. Maybe not.
The Limited I bought is actually a fine vehicle. My first drive to my work (mixed farm road and suburban driving) got me 25 mpg my first time out today! Better than I expected. The car is slow (but I'm babying it), though it does accelerate smoothly and fairly quietly. Sneaky in a way, found myself exceeding the speed limit a few times... I know I will grow to love it. There are some minor annoyances. A rattling which I think is the 3rd rear seatbelt that I tucked into the roof, some roughness in the engine when I first ignite it (is this normal?), the transmission thatt always seems to be hunting at moderate speeds, etc. but overall I'm happy with my purchase, especially compared to others I looked at (and drove):
Acura RDX: Nice luxury, lousy fuel economy, fairly overpriced (though thinking about it, the limited I bought is not much less)
Acura TL: Beautiful, but I wanted a crossover
Honda CRV: Loved it when I drove it, excellent and well thought out interior, but hated it the more I thought about it. Also, too many of them on the road
Mazda CX7: Nice ride. Fuel economy and reliability killed it for me though.
Mitsubishi Outlander: Test drove the I4 SE though the lying salesman told me it was the V6 XLS. Then found a slightly less slimy dealership and drove the XLS. Actually liked the car (paddle shifters kinda cool, but a bit ridiculous on an SUV), but interior felt to cheap. I tried to ignore it, but in the end I couldn't.
Toyota Rav4: Drove the V6, I loved the power, I loved the ride, but the interior was bland. It made me sad. Boring as anything. Too many around, like Honda
Subaru Forester: The sunroof, the AWD, and the style sold itself to me. I couldn't resist that face
Too funny!
Here's the deal I got:
2.5x Premium, manual transmission with:
Homelink mirror (I've programed it already, works well)
Rear Bumper Cover
Splash Guards
Luggage Cover
Cargo Mat
Tweeter Kit
And, it came with the 2 different color lines of detailing on both sides (so I'll know which one it mine)...not something I asked for, but the MSRP difference was only $12.
MSPR: $23,997.00
Invoice: $22,382.00
Price: $21,258.00 This dealer did not raise the price quoted! Yeah!
Add all weather mats for $51.00
Sub Total $21,309.00 = $1,134 below invoice
Sales Taxes: 1,429.00 ah, the government...
OTD: $22,737.00
Loyalty Incentive: 500.00 = $1,634 below invoice
Total Paid: $22,237.00
Title & Plates will of course be extra...
The surprise of course is the mpg recorded on the car. It has 280 miles on it and it says the avg mpg is 35!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :shades:
I know it was mainly hiway driving, but isn't that fantastic! Is anyone else seeing those numbers? Or is it imaginary because the car is so new???
And one more question...Aren't we suppose to get 2 remotes to go along with the 2 keys that they give us??? How many remotes did you get?
I had to ask to assure I got the owner's manual & other paperwork, as it wasn't in the vehicle when I inspected it, so I want to be sure I have everything...
Heading off to Rendez-vous on Tuesday with the car loaded, Thule rack on top and dirt roads to drive just to get there....I'll let you know how it handles on back roads driving at 9-10,000 feet when I return...
WooHoo! First new car in 22 years! My last Subaru lasted that long (282,000), and would have gone another 5 years easily if someone hadn't hit it in a parking lot!
Still finding AWP to be limited but supposedly more equipped with it are coming in these days than previously. What is the Loyalty Incentive? We have 02 Forester which we will hopefully trade and are interested in this.
It came with the car, and is on most other premium's in my area. I probably wouldn't have ordered it...but, it does seem to brighten the music quite a bit, so it does sound better IMO. I only heard one vehicle without the tweeter, and it was a while ago...so I could be mistaken. Short answer, I'm happy I have it now as I can really hear the high end clearly & distinctively.
Re: Loyalty Incentive is not related to trading in a vehicle, but is something the main office gave me. It is atypical. I was just lucky (after being unlucky).
Also need to have someone fix the "rear seat recline button", as that basically just fell out of where it it suppose to be and doesn't work. The other side is fine.
$24,500 including delivery
$299 - dealer fees.
I still have to pay NY State sales tax and tags...
If your looking for a good deal then drop by Stamford Subaru. I went to other dealers in NJ and they wouldn't even touch the $24,500 price and that is invoice on the car from what I read. Additionally the Stamford dealer takes the base models and puts leather interior and heated seats in the car. They had a base X model in the showroom with heated seats and Leather. Not a bad choice for those who don't want to pay up for the LL Bean model. I am currently driving a 98 Jetta TDI with over 214k miles so an upgrade for sure.
Can't wait to get the new wheels!
Rob B.
35mpg holy cow! :surprise:
Nice to know that much is possible. They must have been driving 55mph while drafting a UPS truck!
So you might say they built incentives in, rather than offering rebates.
I bet residuals improve. In fact, they already have - 59% after a 3 year lease with 45k miles. That's great. Most Subies are 52-57% or so and many competitors do a lot worse.
I was at $600 out the door with $320 including taxes. I bet I could have gotten a little less, but Im think I can beat that to zero down and under 299 this month.
Anyone?
June was up over 40% compared to last year, and supply is still short. Don't expect incentives any time soon - they're just not needed.
Thanks for the input though!
A quick and easy one for generic options is: http://www.cars101.com/subaru_prices.html#Forester%20prices
The detailed one, where you can build your own car and then find the invoice is on edmonds: http://www.edmunds.com/new/2009/subaru/forester/100992079/options.html
They haven't changed things for July, so it is just the 4.5% financing for the forester.
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f178d36/1815