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Bob
Congrats to Lindsey, nice deal too.
Congrats to Bill. Wow, you got the top model and loaded it up. I'm a bit envious. Under $29k ain't bad, given a few compact SUVs get in to the $30s and aren't any better than yours.
Finally, congrats to Tiny. You drove the turbo, you bought the turbo. See? That was your mistake. The base engine is fine, but you sampled the turbo and that was that!
willy: maybe next time. I was going to say, prices are unlikely to go up, so not having the deal in writing wasn't a big deal.
If you're shopping again a year from now, who knows? Perhaps some small incentives will appear by then.
I'm not holding my breath, though. Demand is hot. Period. Up 49% in April and does anyone really think May was any slower? Look at all the congrats going around.
Someone asked, well we ordered a Limited model (replaced the LL Bean) with mud guards, cargo liner, cargo cover, 2 cargo nets, bumper guard, and a few other minor things.
We paid a couple hundred extra for the PZEV, which makes 175hp instead of 170hp, plus it's cleaner. :shades:
Newport Blue Pearl over Titanium leather.
SoA says it's been built (I have a VIN) and it en route, should arrive on the East Coast the first week of January. They have to install all the accessories we ordered at the port, then ship it down to Fitzgerald Subaru.
Funny thing is we don't even have a final price yet. We will be getting VIP pricing, so basically 2% under invoice. If any incentives appear by the time it arrives, we get 'em. I wanted it that way, though I'm not that lucky, I doubt incentives will appear.
Price came in right around $25k with the options/accessories and freight included. Subtract $1600 Subaru Bucks, and it will be around $23.4k or so. Plus 6% MD tax, tags, etc.
I looked and the left over 2008 LL Bean models are only about $500-600 cheaper, that's why I do not expect incentives. With a $500 rebate the price would be flat from 2008 to 2009, so I doubt that.
Hmmm...
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Either that or he told them to row slow to increase his chance of getting an incentive.
No, I meant June 2. That's the date SoA said the boat would arrive.
Maybe they added a turbocharger to the boat's engine.
They did not offer to order the correct car. They vaguely referred to the fact that this car has a higher MSRP than the one they quoted me. I have no idea what the MSRP is as the sticker was removed before I got there. $145 for an Ipod interface raises the value of the car by $1000. I don't think so!!! I walked out. They flat out lied to me. At no time did they indicate that they wanted me to pay a higher price until I saw it on the paperwork. What is with that!!! Hoping I would miss it, and just sign???
On top of that, the car that they quoted me originally is less than 20 miles down the road. The dealership manager told me on Saturday, that the other dealer would not trade for it. It is still sitting there! Bait & Switch.
All I can say is: DO NOT SHOP VALLEY Nissan/SUBARU IN LONGMONT, CO.
Tomorrow I am calling our local TV troubleshooter to have them investigate. Avoid Valley Nissan/Subaru in Longmont Colorado like the plague. Bait and Switch and they just expect people/me to accept it. They tried to "show" me how they were taking a hit at that price. I really don't care. I was given a price without being shown the "real dealer prices" and I accepted it. I want the car they quoted me at the price they quoted me. Or another of equal or better value. They made no suggestion that they had made a mistake, so I wonder if this is how they do business on a regular basis. They didn't even tell me that this was a differently priced vehicle until I saw the price I was paying. What is with that!!!
I might stay away from Subaru's because of this. I have to start looking for another car all over again. I hope you all have better luck than I did.
The second update is that there are at least 2 vehicles matching the original specs within 30 miles of this dealership. Why did they have to transfer one from Silverthorn, over a hundred miles away? Why did not the sales manager, when he spoke to me Saturday not tell me that this vehicle was not identical to the one that I got the quote for??? This is the dealership sales manager. Not some newbie.
Liars ALL!!!
What are the best quotes people are seeing on this vehicle?
You can get it for invoice or better, I've seen them being advertised for $400 below invoice. Go to Fitzmall.com and do a search for a new Subaru with your package, that'll give you a good idea of what a good price is. You could even print it out and show the dealer: hey, this is the same car being advertised on the internet for THIS price. Worth a shot, good luck.
dark grey metallic 2.5x with premium package, plus auto-dimming mirror w. compass, and all weather mats: $23,412 all-in. we're having the ipod interface and dog-proof cargo liner installed. we also got a 4.5% apr from subaru.
our first ever subaru. let's hope we stay in love with it.
I think you should look at other subaru dealerships before cutting them out.
I think the dealer underestimated the popularity of that model.
Still, I would have walked just like you did.
The other dealer wasn't been able to give me the price I was offered at the first dealer. Neither was my local dealer, although, I spoke to them both earlier in the month. This time of the month, they may have more incentive. Today is the last day for the "best deals" so I am told. So I may just call around and see if anyone wants to meet that price today.
"How much did they want you to pay for the car with MSRP of 24, 041?"
$21,800 which is $1000 more than the "no haggle, no additional fees" that they quoted me for the $23,985 vehicle. They also promised me $100 less if I financed through the Subaru 4.5% price. So, it is really $1100 off their quoted price.
Most if not all of the other dealers had quoted better prices than the $21,800 price.
I have called the owner of the original dealer and he was interested in learning what was going on at his dealership.
Oh well, 2009 prices are close to 2008 prices as is. Any rebates and they may end up cheaper, and then the last few 2008s would never sell.
how do you know if subaru will have June incentives yet?
The subaru guy I spoke to today said today (June 2) was the effective "last day of the month". And the 4.5% rate is good through today as well. So I assumed the new deals won't be out yet. Where were you looking?
thx
"Do you know what the dealer doc/convienance fee is around your area?"
I think it is about $50. I have never actually queried about it, but heard someone mention that number one time. I always ask for the total cost of the vehicle plus taxes only. I don't allow them to add on any dealer handling fees either, or, if they do, it is wrapped into the price that they are quoting me. It is the only way I can effectively compare prices from different dealers.
So the 20,800 was a plus tax only price.
There are 13 Subaru dealers in my area, so it is pretty competetive here on the prices.
I did ask the dealer I spoke with today, and they said everything was wrapped into the cost for them except $17.20 for the filing fee.
Then I have to pay $7.20 title fee for my county. And of course taxes and registration.
6.7% taxes in my town and approximately $500+ for registration.
Let me check again today, since it's the first day past that deadline...
Mysterious...they do not list Subaru yet. I gotta find out.
I have a dumb question-with the VIP program, do you get the accesories at 2% below invoice also? And does it make a difference to the final price depending on how they calculate it? Just want to be sure what to look out for when doing the final deal...i'm ridiculously wary of car salesman...they have to be the most unscrupulous people out there!
so, probably Edmonds is waiting on Subaru...
We ordered a bunch - 2 nets, cargo cover, cargo liner, bumper protector, mud guards, and a few others IIRC.
It arrived at the port yesterday, so hopefully they are putting on those accessories as we speak. Can't wait!
All weather package
Side body molding
Wheel arch molding
Mud guards
Rear bumper guard
Aero crossbars
Moonroof air deflector
Fog light kit
Puddle Lights kit
Cargo tray
Luggage compartment cover
Side cargo nets
All weather mats
Auto dimming mirror
With discount, hoping to get this at right around 24k plus tax, title, etc...
I believe they come pre-wired for satellite radio, so yes, dealer would only have to install receiver hardware. Received quotes including AWP and they didn't tell me I had to wait...the package was scheduled to be available in June, but arrived early so i've read. This is in WI, by the way...
Mark
Mark
http://www.cars101.com/subaru/rebates.html
No '09 Forester rebates, but I believe the rates have dropped.
I know that past history is no guarantee of the future, but the trend can be your friend. I hate to miss a good deal by a month even if its only a $500 rebate which could translate to $20 less in the monthly payment for a 24 month lease.
Luckily, I'm over 700 so no difference for me.
Ok, so I spoke to the owner of the Valley Subaru dealership in Longmont, CO this week. Your gonna laugh at his explanation that he his standing by with regard to the written quote that he wouldn't honor. (They had wanted me to pay $1000 more than quoted when I showed up.)
The explanation: A $1000 down payment is added to the quoted price to get to the "total price" that they wanted me to pay for the vehicle.
What a joke!
Again, please avoid Valley Subaru in Longmont, CO unless you want a similar experience. Honoring the commitment would have been much cheaper than losing customers... :P
So, please post the reviews of the dealers you have used. That way we can find the great dealers near us!
The only declining model right now is Outback, just entering the final year of the current design. Legacy is in the final year also, but its sales are up. The '09s should be released very soon, which may give those models an additional small sales bump. Those are the places most likely to see continued large rebates, and I suppose it's possible Impreza could receive a small ($250 more?) rebate increase if Subaru feels they need it to maintain momentum.
April was up 49%, and the 66% increase for May is correct.
No rebates for me, no way no how.
OTOH, the 2009 prices are only about $400 more than a similar 2008 LL Bean, so it's easily worth that much extra.
They are doing final inspections and PDI on our 2009 Forester, so we should have it delivered here in MD early next week! :shades:
Dealer said 2% below and I'm not going to question him!
Of course Fitzmall.com is at $300-600 under invoice even for non-VIP customers. I'll print those prices and ask for the lower of the two!
added up to $24,412. $1000 discount to $23,412.
Car is on the lot.
The dealer is a ways away, so will be driving down next week to check out my Forester.
Got the Premium with MT and the following components:
auto-dim mirror compass w/Homelink (Homelink says it will work with my old garage door opener!)
cargo liner
cargo cover
splash guards
rear bumper cover
tweeter
Will probably add the all weather mats, 3M clear bra, and possibly the side nets (thanks for comments from this group!) Just awaiting the dealer prices on these minor add ons.
I'll note price next week after all the paperwork is signed. (Don't want to jinx it after the last go.) Wish me luck!