2013 and earlier-Subaru Outback Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • greenicegreenice Member Posts: 41
    A Subaru dealer in Springfield, MO has about a dozen used 2005 Outbacks for sale (base model, automatic). This seems to be a big inventory given that MO is not exactly Subaru country, and Springfield is not a big city.

    They have between 12000 and 18000 miles. Maybe rentals ??
    The dealer is asking $19,788. Given the fact that new 2005 Outbacks are advertised at $21500 in St. Louis, this seems
    a bit high, but probably not by much.

    What should I offer?

    greenice
  • wmquanwmquan Member Posts: 1,817
    Are there additional incentives on 2006 models beyond the $1,000 customer rebate?

    www.fitzmall.com shows prices on LL Beans that are about $1,600-$1,700 below invoice. With the $1,000 rebate part of that savings, are they really letting go of most of their holdback?

    Is there an additional incentive that Edmunds does not list? Or is there a catch here?

    Thanks in advance.
  • rparkrpark Member Posts: 14
    Mid-to-late November bought an '06 bean (list $33120) for $28974 including all dealer fees, but before tax & tags. Started with the internet, and all dealing over the phone, worked with 3 dealers. Two were just under $30K but the third was lower by about $900, so went with them. This was much easier than going to the dealers in person, saved time, gas, and aggravation. I thought it was a fair price.
  • bspisakbspisak Member Posts: 1
    Where?
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    There must be some sort of bonus if they reach a certain quota, and they must expect to meet that. I know that's the case for the Tribeca, they only get a $1000 incentive if they sell a certain number, and someone there told me they expect to meet it.

    Not sure if that exists for the Legacy, but the price sounds more than fair either way. They basically are giving the entire holdback.

    -juice
  • raybearraybear Member Posts: 1,795
    The Tribeca bonus was for last month, they pulled it.
  • desertrat5desertrat5 Member Posts: 85
    As a long time member of Edmunds, I value the input of all. I was just recently transferred from Phx to Colorado Springs and am now looking for a SUV. The list of candidates include

    Mercury Mariner
    Nissan Murano
    Toyota Highlander
    Toyota RAV4 (new 2006 w/ V6)
    Subaru Outback Turbo with auto
    Subaru Forrester Turbo with auto

    I welcome your experience with any of these vehicles as well as with the Colorado Springs dealers of the same.

    Thanks much

    Bob
  • prosaprosa Member Posts: 280
    Neither the Outback nor the Forester feel like they are true SUV's. Their handling and use of space is more similar to a tall wagon's. If you're looking for a vehicle with the SUV feel, you'd be better off with the B9 Tribeca.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    At altitudes where you'll be much of the time, a turbo can really carry an advantage - they can compensate for the thin air and not lose power like N/A engines do.

    06 Foresters make 230hp (conservative estimate) plus get 21/26 mpg, not a bad power/economy balance for mile high places.

    -juice
  • desertrat5desertrat5 Member Posts: 85
    Hey prosa

    Thanks for the words. I really like space but I also prefer something that handles better than a sofa on soft springs. Hence the consideration to the Subarus.

    I had a 96 Jeep GC and while it was wonderful off road, it was not at all fun on road. Since I don't anticipate any heavy duty off road from here on, I think I will put more emphasis on handling. Also economy is important today. And lastly, the air molecules are far apart up here in Colorado Springs - the turbo pretty much eliminates that issue.

    Happy holidays
  • desertrat5desertrat5 Member Posts: 85
    Thanks

    Couldn't agree more about the turbo. I had a Passat with the 1.8 turbo and it didn't care if it was a sea level or at 10,000 asl. Would buy another but like the higher clearance of the Subaru and the Passat is all new this year. I have been burned on first year models twice now and one of them was a VW.

    Bob
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Not to mention a V6 4Motion costs about the same as my first house...prices are up there.

    -juice
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  • garandmangarandman Member Posts: 524
    Mid-to-late November bought an '06 bean (list $33120) for $28974 including all dealer fees, but before tax & tags. Started with the internet, and all dealing over the phone, worked with 3 dealers. Two were just under $30K but the third was lower by about $900, so went with them.
    Is there a reason why you didn't post the name of the dealers?
    I found Manchester (NH) Subaru beat all the MA dealers, without a lot of haggling.
  • rparkrpark Member Posts: 14
    Bought at Carmart Subaru in Wilmington. Acton wouldn't budge off $29.7 before any dealer fees, and IRA was the highest at $29.9K. Carmart was $28.8K before dealer fees (which I think is a last chance a picking of my pocket). Even after the papers were signed, IRA admitted they couldn't have met the price; I think they thought I was lying. We bought in MA because of the convenience factor; Carmart & IRA are close to home. Haggling was not an issue; Carmart was up front with their price; via email and phone, I gave the other two 2 chances each to bring their price down, but they declined. I was not interested in going to their dealerships and going through the grind. That's a waste of my time, and time is money. Someone else may have done better, but probably not by a whole lot; we are satisfied.
  • snowbeltersnowbelter Member Posts: 288
    Just browsed Van Bortel Subarus website and they are advertising (until Jan 3), invoice minus any factory rebates minus $800 from their online coupon. Current factory rebates for an 06 Outback are $1000.
  • grace_gtgrace_gt Member Posts: 14
    Concordville Subaru in PA
  • urnutsurnuts Member Posts: 15
    Well, I have a 2005 Ford Escape (Mariner clone). A piece of junk beyond belief. MSRP was $27,500, paid $22,500 Worth about $18K... tops.
    Any of those are good choices, except the Mariner.
  • tzarinatzarina Member Posts: 6
    I just purchased an '06 VDC Outback Wagon with Nav at Manchester Subaru in New Hampshire. I paid $31,233 for the car. This price is less than the invoice minus the holdback and minus the $1,000 incentive! All other dealers were easily $1,000 more (including Fitzmall). My understanding is that they have contests and get money from Subaru for meeting their quota and giving good service. They ask that you give them an excellent rating when you get the customer satisfaction survey from Subaru. Got an excellent price with no hassles whatsoever and did this entirely via internet and phone. And they even ordered the car for me. Strongly recommend them to folks in the New England area.
  • garandmangarandman Member Posts: 524
    Ditto. I bought my 3.0R there. $1,500 less than Wakefield (MA) Subaru - where I'd bought two previously. And it was the same car - there was only one Silver 3.0R in New England at the time.
  • ravilynravilyn Member Posts: 6
    I did not get as good a deal as tzarina. :cry:
    I paid 23.2K for a Legacy 2.5i Ltd Sedan
    with spoilers and dimming mirror.

    Invoice = 23,947
    Rebate = 1,000
    Spoiler+mirror= 510.

    Works out to 250 over invoice in my book.
    (I count the spoilers and mirror as free. )
  • ravilynravilyn Member Posts: 6
    The area is Pittsburgh, not New England.
  • bpacbpac Member Posts: 4
    I'm thinking of getting an outback when my Jeep Liberty Lease is up. Does anyone know what a lease on a 2.5I cost with 2 k down. Does Subaru give good deals.
  • outbacklmtoutbacklmt Member Posts: 3
    I don't remember what the invoice was but my Outback Limited MSRP was $28,669 and I paid $23,434. $5,235 off sticker. No trade in and 2.9%.
  • raybearraybear Member Posts: 1,795
    I was just talking about you with someone on another thread!
  • bpacbpac Member Posts: 4
    I hopes it was good. Im looking at a 36 month lease with 2k down at $300 a month.
  • doccacdoccac Member Posts: 2
    I got an 06 Outback/Manual/2.5i with no options 20,750.....Albuquerque. :blush:
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    That's cheap, did you have to hold a gun to the dealer's head? ;)

    -juice
  • grace_gtgrace_gt Member Posts: 14
    That's a really good price, was that a one at this price type of deal? Congrats! i am really enjoying mine!
  • doccacdoccac Member Posts: 2
    Galles subaru...Advertised, but had several. Probably an enticement with idea that you might upgrade once you got there. But, fit my needs perfectly. Had several, of different colors to choose from. No pressure. Good experience.
  • kzhangkzhang Member Posts: 3
    where are you located? which dealer?
  • maxheadroommaxheadroom Member Posts: 6
    I have an offer on a new 2005 Outback XT:

    MSRP = 31,151
    Price = 23,393 (includes 2,500 manu rebate)
    OTD = 24,499

    Car has only 108 miles on it but its been sitting at the dealer for over a year. It looks great and I love the turbo!

    Thanks for any thoughts on this deal.
  • raybearraybear Member Posts: 1,795
    Looks good, cheap tax rate where you are too!
  • maxheadroommaxheadroom Member Posts: 6
    I'm in Texas - 6.25%. I doing a trade in of 10,500. Btw, I mistyped the MSRP, it should be 30,151 (not as sweet as it looked!).
  • wmquanwmquan Member Posts: 1,817
    Car has only 108 miles on it but its been sitting at the dealer for over a year.

    Has it really been sitting there for over a year? Why? Does the dealer look like it keeps a lot of inventory around?

    I suppose worse case is that it's had some issue that kept the dealership from offering it, and they took their time making the repairs.
  • raybearraybear Member Posts: 1,795
    It's not uncommon to "sell around" a particular piece of inventory...I just sold our oldest Forester and there's nothing wrong with the car.
  • maxheadroommaxheadroom Member Posts: 6
    Dealer still has 4 other 2005 Outback XT's. I guess they didn't sell as well as expected. I know of no issues with the car and dealer said there were none. I plan on getting extended warranty just to be safe.
  • raybearraybear Member Posts: 1,795
    Try to get a deal on the warranty as well, I've seen the high end Gold plans going for as much as 40% off "sticker".
  • dondfwdondfw Member Posts: 4
    What dealership are you buying from? I'm in Dallas, and plan to buy in a couple of weeks.
  • colonwkcolonwk Member Posts: 2
    I just bought an '06 Outback Limited for $25k even. Is this a good price? I called a lot of dealers and only one offered to meet this price.

    MY QUESTION:
    The dealership offered me the 6yr/60K extended warranty for a price of $986. They claimed they are offering it to me at cost. Can that be true? Is this a good price? Does anyone have any experience with Subaru extended warranties? Shoulg I buy this? (based on your experience).

    I am tempted to roll the dice and not buy it, would love to hear some other opinions. Thanks.
  • raybearraybear Member Posts: 1,795
    The car price looks okay, but they lied about the warranty cost...is it a Subaru Added Security plan or something else? Them most expensive 6/60 I found was $1100 list, cost isn't even close to $986.
  • maxheadroommaxheadroom Member Posts: 6
    I bought at Huffines Subaru/Chevrolet in Lewisville. First class all way - highly recommend.

    Price as stated above but I added cargo net ($33) and Gold 6/60 0 deductible ext warranty for $995. I probably could have talked them lower on warranty but the car was such a good deal I didn't have the heart. I plan to use this dealer for service so I didn't want to tick them off.

    Btw, I totally love this car already!! XC90 owners eat yer hearts out.
  • colonwkcolonwk Member Posts: 2
    Yes, it is the MFG Subaru Added Security warranty that extends for 6/60. It is not a 3rd party warranty.

    Are these types of warranty's generally worth it?
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    We have one. The nice part is you get roadside assistance the entire time, so we are covered for 7/100.

    See if you can get a longer term. Your 5/60 is really only adding the B2B portion for 2 years. The powertrain is already covered.

    The price seems fair, quotes often run $1400 or higher nowadays.

    -juice
  • raybearraybear Member Posts: 1,795
    Make sure that's what you need first...are you only driving 10,000 miles a year? It's a good plan if you want a little more peace of mind. If the car's a turbo the price would be okay, if not I'd look at one for a 25% discount off the suggested price.
  • jeg72jeg72 Member Posts: 18
    Where can I get pricing guidance for '05 models. Local dealer has two on the lot.

    Bean (MSRP 32870) with following accessories

    FLOOR MATS, ALL WEATHER
    SUBWOOFER/AMPLIFIER
    ARMREST EXTENSION (TAUPE)
    AUTO DIMMING MIRROR / COMPASS WITH HOMELINK UPGRAD
    CARGO NET, REAR OF REAR SEAT BACK

    XT LTD (32954) with following options

    AUTO-DIMMING MIRROR/COMPASS
    ARMREST EXTENSION (OFF BLACK)
    CARGO NET, REAR OF REAR SEAT BACK

    Are there incentives, deals, etc to be considered.

    Thanks for any help ......

    Sincerely, one who hates negotiating.
  • maxheadroommaxheadroom Member Posts: 6
    $2,500 manufacturer incentives on 2005's. I got 23% off MSRP for my 05 OB XT last week. you should look for a similar discount. 2007 models will be out in May so dealer's are motivated.
  • raybearraybear Member Posts: 1,795
    Offer the dealer invoice less rebate less holdback, then let them counter.
  • ray_palm_stray_palm_st Member Posts: 4
    We are close to buying a 06 Outback but maxheadroom’s #815 comment that the 07 Models are out in May really makes me pause. I have a 96 Legacy with 240K+ so another 3 months is not a major issue. We feel there are not a lot of color choices and have compromised on one :confuse: . Not totally overwhelmed with it since it is the same as our other car, a 02 Impreza. Is a May a good pick for the new models? Any info on what may be new? Same car with just a different mix of options and colors? What has Subaru done in the past on incentives at model launch? I expect I could always find a 06 in May at a dealer but don’t know if I will be paying more or less.
  • raybearraybear Member Posts: 1,795
    Early on the dealers will still have a good supply of '06's to choose from and the deals are usually better.
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