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I phoned Lawrence Cannons office today and was advised there has been no announcement or policy change. I am waiting for Andrew Walasek who has been assigned the file to return my call.
I also left a voice mail for Pierre Tremblay Chief of Import and Audit Inspection, he has not yet returned may call.
The Transport Canada employee named Moussa I spoke too this morning said the issue still remains unresolved and he no no idea when TC would be making a statement. he thought maybe some time in the middle of December
This is not true for MPV vehicles. The form that was listed on the RIV site on Oct 26, 2007 - Nov 1, 2007 has Section 5.3 listing that All MPV’s are admissible except for a few listed inadmissible. Nobody needs to make any assumption... It's listed there in black and white.
Check out the RIV lists at http://www.carswithoutborders.com/resources/riv-lists/
There are also people who exercised due diligence by actually calling and emailing RIV when the change was made after there purchase. There are a number in this thread that have additional proof in writing, from RIV saying they should have no problems importing their vehicles. Now they find out that they CAN'T register these cars. I would say the bulk of the people in this thread that are having problems fall into this category.
Did she specify when/how to get this "pass"?
Was there an email address TC gave you to submit your documentation? How did you go about opening a case number?
I think you were in fact referring to your post #2675...correct me if I'm wrong...
netdog
You'll save a huge wad of money doing it this way, even after the refitting.
As far as that goes, it's possible to retrofit ANY car to pass in the U.S. or Canada that was sold that year - just it will require a lot of little bits and parts and a few thousand dollars. Be persistent, get an itemized list, and grind away at it, realizing that you'll be paying for essentially the pright sticker on the same part.(ie - the guy with the Mercedes, just buy the Canadian bumper from a parts store or via an auto repair shop. (Bypass the dealer entirely here if they want to gouge you)
Get the auto shop to install it, like they would with any collision repair. Rinse, repeat. (this may require a lot of parts as I mentioned) Sell the old parts on Ebay to recover some of the cost.
I have hit a brick wall trying to get info regarding the extra costs associated with the import of a ML320CDI. MB Canada does not want to provide any info without a 350$ payment. Do you have the exact info regarding the required changes?
thanks
one guy checked the immobilizer part numbers on two Siennas - one manufactered for Canada and the other for the states - and found the part numbers to be identical. The canadian one was installed in a different hard-to-reach location than on the us model in order to comply with the CMVSS 114 requirement that it take at least 5 minutes to defeat the system versus 3.5 minutes for the us standard. This might not be the case for all makes and models declared inadmissible but it supports what a lot of people've been thinking: this immobilizer thing is pure BS. If this is really the only difference then why is it not possible for Joe Public to retrofit the vehicle with a compliant one or simply just relocate the existing immobilizer?
netdog
I also thought that the reason why one can not "get an aftermarket kit" to fix this is because the immobilizers are the same.
My impression that the RIV has to still provide a specific reason why the immobilizers don't make the grade. If there really was one, they would say so. So it looks like it is up to us to demand this information and point it out to Transport Canada and the RIV.
Cheers
Picture a scene from Apollo 13: a dozen geeky engineers sitting aournd a table. The boss comes in with a box of immobilizer parts. "Gentlemen, here is your challenge: you have to put all of these parts on this vehicle in two configurations. One that can be disabled in 3.5 minutes and one that takes at least 5."
I suspect that the "admissable" vehicles were produced at a different plant where they didn't have the luxury. Maybe the Japanese models of Lexus?
They likely also have a "service" for their customers who are moving to Canada to make their vehicles valid in Canada.
PS - Form2's in on both new (pre Sept1) honda's in the driveway. Trying to book in for DTRL install this week - the installers in Calgary are backed up big time. Book ahead!!!!!
Does somebody have a copy of the Export Worksheet for exporting vehicle at Blaine WA.
cheers!
John
PM
The DRL requirement is easily found on this forum and the RIV site. While doing your due diligence and research before you imported you must have heard about this requirement. What I don't understand is how you can complain about $170 when you just saved thousands by importing a vehicle?
Then that would surely be unlawful on a post August 31, 2007 vehicle. Anyone doing so who then gets their vehicle stolen might have trouble collecting on their insuance. OK under the law on any pre Sept 1 vehicle though.
Thanks,
http://www.toyotaofseattle.com/default.aspx?html=canadian.html&s=new
You left out the part about failure not being an option!
tidester, host
SUVs and Smart Shopper
As we know Highlander is made in Japan, do you know how much duty the custom ask for if I import it from states?
Many thanks.
English RIV list - Version - June 1 to October 23 ( we have October 23).
French Version - June to October 23 ( we have a portion of Sept. and the October 23rd.
We really appreciate your help. Please email sergelbergeron@bergeron.ca. to be used by www.carswithoutborders.com - fighting for consumers
Because of the 72 hour rule and the fact that I won't be able to get the ownership until I pickup the vehicle, was wondering if I would be able to pickup the vehicle fax the ownership to US customs and cross the border with the vehicle back into Canada without doing the export first. After the 72 hour mark, go back with the car and do the export/import process?
Reason for this is obviously I am hoping to do this myself without having to involve someone else with a 2nd car to drive me back to pickup the vehicle. Thx
from the looks of the link above I don't think you can bring the car across.
I'm in the same boat as you. Picking up my CLK500 on Saturday and i'm going to have to leave the car at a friends place in Bellingham.
doesnt need 3 days notification.
For release - November 30, 2007
IMPORTATION OF U.S. VEHICLES BY CANADIANS: GOVERNMENT OF CANADA TO CLARIFY AND EASE THE PROCESS OF IMPORTING WITH AMENDMENTS TO REGULATIONS
OTTAWA — The Government of Canada is proposing an amendment to the Motor Vehicle Safety Regulations (MVSR) to clarify and make it easier for Canadians to import vehicles from the United States built as of September 1, 2007, which are already equipped with an electronic immobilization system or can be fitted with one.
The proposed amendment will be published in the Canada Gazette Part I on December 1, 2007. It would modify section 12 of the Motor Vehicle Safety Regulations as it pertains to importing new vehicles sold in the United States. Interested parties have 15 days to comment. The proposed regulation would take effect shortly after the consultation period.
"Our government is committed to ensuring safety on Canadian roads and highways," said the Honourable Lawrence Cannon, Minister of Transport, Infrastructure and Communities. "This amendment will simplify and clarify the process for Canadians importing U.S. vehicles, to ensure those vehicles meet our requirements with respect to anti-theft immobilizers."
As of September 1, 2007, the Motor Vehicle Safety Regulations require that all new cars, vans, light trucks and SUVs sold in Canada or imported into Canada come equipped with electronic, anti-theft immobilizers.
Canada requires these systems in response to the public's desire to reduce the trend of thefts for convenience and to protect innocent parties from serious accidents, injury and death.
The proposed amendment will offer more flexibility to Canadians wishing to import vehicles and maintains efforts to ensure safety on our roads. However, before buying a vehicle in the U.S., Canadians should check with the Registrar of Imported Vehicles (RIV) about the rules and process for importing vehicles (www.riv.ca).
Transport Canada's Registrar of Imported Vehicles program verifies that new vehicles sold at the retail level in the U.S. and imported for use in Canada meet Canadian safety requirements. Imported vehicles may have to be modified to meet requirements for daytime running lights, child tether anchorage systems and anti-theft immobilization devices.
Questions on duties and taxes on imported goods, including vehicles, should be directed to the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) at 1-800-461-9999 (in Canada) or 1-506-636-5064 (outside Canada).
While the provincial and territorial governments have jurisdiction for after-market additions to motor vehicles, Transport Canada develops standards and regulations for new vehicles manufactured or imported for use in Canada.
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http://canadagazette.gc.ca/partI/2007/20071201/pdf/g1-14148.pdf
I was wondering if anyone knows what the immobilizer part number is on either Cdn or USA 2008 Prius is?
THATS UTTER B.S.