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Hope you get everything resolved.
BTW, this dealer said that December is the end of Lexus' fiscal year, such that December is the best month for savings. Favorable interest and lease rates don't suggest much in the way of savings to me,unless they're talking 0.9% interest rate,which I doubt.
Are you saying you can get the car for 35 K? Seems like a pretty good deal to me.
$38K does not sound like a good deal at all.
2004 Lexus ES 330
4dr Sedan (3.3L 6cyl 5A)
Premium Package, Wood, Silver, Philly zip
Total with Options
MSRP $33,250
Invoice $29,475
TMV $32,285
$33,250 MSRP - $2,500 = $30,750 + tax, tags, etc.
Why do I see so many CPO '02s with 15k+ miles for like $31-33k with little/no discounting???
I got a price of $34,400. for my car with Nav/ML. I was pretty happy with the price. I was extremely happy with the salesman and dealership. They made the buying experience very non-stressful. I'll have it for the holidays which is nice! Good luck to everyone with their purchase.
Sounds like you got a great price on yours with the Nav/ML.
Just curious...did yours come with VSC? If so, what part of the country are you in?
Thx...
Mike...
i'm assuming this is just another way for the dealer to make a profit on a high mark-up item, but don't know for sure. does anyone have any thoughts on this sealant protection purchase, and if it's a good idea? we could still do it if it makes any sense. thanks!
$440/month
15,000 miles/year,
48 month lease,
Navigation System
Premium Package,
No money down except tax,tag,title,
Also, do you all pay the acquisition fee and Disposition fee? I was told to negotiate them out of the lease agreement.
Thanks for any information
a)Leasing a vehicle is always a lower monthly payment
b)They own a business, where you can write off most of it for tax purposes
c)They trade in their vehicle every 3 years or so anyway
These are reasons to contemplate leasing a vehicle. If you drive tons of miles a year, keep your cars until they die, or can pay cash, I wouldn't lease
Please see the ES300 thread for my topic. Thanks.
If there is , they should let us in on it !!
I got the ES 330 with Premium Package and insisted they change the wheels to CHROME wheels. This means everything EXCEPT Nav, ML Sound and VSC on my car. I had to do a bit of maneuvering and deflecting as they attempted to tell me first what the maximum they could subtract off MSRP was, and then suddenly it switched to the minimum they could do over invoice when I held firm (but polite) ground. That change of angle is usually a good sign.
I offered $35,000 bottom line "out the door" and they eventually accepted after standard resistance over the course of 25 minutes. This comes out to $32,040 before tax, tag, and doc fee is added. No charge to change the wheels either. Boy, they sure add additional good looks to my car!
My two cents: Engage your salesperson in the exact same manner he engages you and do not let any uncertainty pass by if you do not understand something he says, or if he says it too fast. Back him up frequently and ask him to restate if needed, or call him out politely if he morphs something you just said into something that is not quite what you meant or wanted. Show him you are listening and processing everything he says and represents. It will cause them to focus more of their engery on the actual facts of what they say rather than "sales speak"... a better quality of dialogue in my view.
But the most important thing I did (and you can do) has to do with timing. I walked into the lot after-dark one hour before closing time on the LAST day of the month. I knew exactly what I wanted and the lowest reasonable price I wanted to pay. In a nutshell, everyone (except me!) is tired, hungry and wants to go home... yet every sales organization will ALWAYS want their monthly numbers as shiny as possible, especially the volume-style dealers. Not only does this establish a firm quicker end to what is often by design a draining and drawn-out negotiation process (whether or not you are successful by the way), but it also helps to weigh things more in your favor precisely at the time of the month they are most eager to do a "close to unreasonable" deal. Try it sometime, its worked for me well in the past. Let me know what you think. By the way... just why does the credit/finance guy always tower over you in the height of his chair? Coincidence?
Overall, it was an extemely good experience and I am more than satisfied with my salesperson, dealership and of course my shiny new Lexus!
I love the car and would love to have one but I will probably go back to my Honda dealer who treats us with respect for our intelligence and doesn't play 'car salesman' games.
Not a good experience.
The original MSRP of my car was $34,734. The Chrome wheels added an MSRP of $1700 for a total MSRP of $36,434. I drove off "out the door" at $35,000. The base sale price before sales tax, doc fee and license was $32040. According to my math this is $4394 below MSRP. Hope this helps.
Invoice might matter a lot more (as a basis of price assessment) if you lived in Detroit, Michigan where you have limited ability to dealer hop for a good deal.
2004 ES 330
Opt 1
Premium, HID, Wood, etc.
$35,170 MSRP
$33,370 Sale
Opt 2
Nav, ML, etc. (Everything but Gold Package and AVS)
$37,930 MSRP
$35,910 Sale
Comments?
Not sure if that is a stand alone option on the '04, but it was on the '03ES. It's an important safety feature and saved my "b..." once.
My wife and I are seriously considering the ES330:
Would like to get the following Options Package:
Navigation System/Mark Levinson® Audio Package with Additional Options
$5,390.00
- Navigation System/Mark Levinson® Audio Package
- High-Intensity Discharge Headlamps (HID) with Rain Sensing Wipers
- Heated Front Seats
- Vehicle Stability Control (VSC)
- Wood and Leather Steering Wheel
- All-Season Tires
- Power Rear Sun Shade
MSRP from the lexus.com = $37,740.00
Edmonds TMV = $36,308
I just emailed back a dealer letting him know essentially that we are looking for an offer below 36k (this would include destination, processing, handling).
Am I on drugs? Or would this be a good price for the dealer?
I am trying to gauge if I am realistic or not negotiating all-that-well.
Thanks in advance for any advice/input,
Jason
Toydriver - thanks for the tip on the VSC. It's included in my Opt2.