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As for retarding the engine timing - that's where most of the extra power comes from in the first place, so why bother installing it? Unless you need it to compensate for the other stuff as mentioned above.
I think they are well worth it even on totally stock car. They claim like 8 to 12 hp on a stock V6 or V8. With intake, and Magnaflow I gained 28hp and 35lbs of torque on the dyno. The SCT Excalibrator, which I have, gives me the option of four tunes on the unit. So I choose 87, 93, and 100+ octane tunes as well as factory as your fourth. Just plug the thing in, takes about a minute to re-flash the computer and you’re off. Plus it’s easy to flash back to the stock for any dealer warranty.
By the way the supercharges are out for the V6!!!!!!!! WHOO HOOO 400+ to the wheels, throw a little nitrous on there and blow that motor up. Well maybe wait on the nitrous lol . I hope this is somewhat helpful. :shades:
Drive safe,
Daniel
the quietest vert I had was a 96 Sebring with a premium top, the fabric was like a twill which does reduce air noise, it also had a headliner that also dampened the sound. The noisiest vert I had was a 84 Mustang GT black top, white exterior with the boss stripe. Not long after that car which was my wife's i bought a 87 GT coupe and it was the best driving and handling car I have ever owned, The new style and interior reminds me of my 67 Cougar 289! (I t was a luxury stang).
There's a roadside barbeque stand near me. They do great BBQ, but I was planning on grilling my own ribs. One thing I can't duplicate is the sauce that this roadside stand makes. I've bought plenty of food there before and "kind of" know the guy who runs it. He's been needling me about giving him a ride in the 'Stang.....this day it was no different. I always tell him to lock down the stand ane we'll take off. Of course, he always turns me down since he's usually the only guy working the counter and the smoker.
Today, he had a couple of his kids with him working I said I'd trade him a couple of bottles of his BBQ sauce for a ride. In no time flat, he had his apron on and was sitting in the passenger seat, caressing the dash. I jumped in and took him for a 3-4 block ride. His eyes were big as saucers. On the way back to the stand, I stopped, flipped him the keys and told him to take over. He giggled like a school girl, but took me up on the offer. He drove back to the stand and had an ear-to-ear grin, with the only word coming out of his moth was "WOW!" over and over again.
We get back, he gets out, running his fingers along the slope of the 'Stang....giving the grill and tail a good, long stare.
He put his apron on, put a couple of bottles of BBQ sause in a bag, and threw in a rack of ribs, handed them to me and said...."NO CHARGE!".
I've got to start offering rides from now on to keep me fed.
OT -
You wouldn't happen to be a Buckeye fan, would you?
Nope, not a buckeye fan. I'm a Miami alum. We're really 'redskins" but were forced to change our name to "redhawks" (whatever it is those are).
Better watch where you put your bag of ribs; stuff will soak right through a paper bag. You didn't get any on your seats did you? :surprise:
More off topic.....no boiled ribs.....they have to be smoked.....sllooowwwwly!
We've got a few good BBQ restaurants around here. Bob Hope and President Reagan used to send for ribs from a place called Montgomery Inn. The best come from these little roadside stands, though. They usually are set up in a parking lot or on the side of the road. NOthing more than a pickeup truck with a smoker attached to the hitch when they set up for business.
That's the way the guy I was referring to does his. He starts at 5:00a.m. every morning to smoke his so they're done by the time lunch time hits.
I keep telling him he needs a permanent location. He won't set one up, however. He sets up shop in the same place every day. When he runs out, he just packs everything up and goes home.
Sticking to Mustang content.....smoky BBQ and Mustangs seem to complement each other.
The weekend drive sold me!
I'm not familiar with MMR or SCT Excalibrator? Can you give more details?
Thanks,
Brian
Further, there's no problem negotiating well below MSRP on the '05s - without looking too hard, a Ford dealer was advertising a new '05 GT (manual) at US$3K below MSRP. Other dealers have 5 or 6 '05 GTs ready for delivery.
Just located a new '05 GT that is optioned the way I want - manual, leather, IUP, anti-theft & cast aluminums. I was actually waiting to get a new '06 in the Spring, but with up to $3K discounts on in-stock '05s, now may be the time to act. I'm planning to keep this one for a while, so the fact that the '05 will have depreciated (one year) doesn't bother me. The 18" wheel availability for the '06's are tempting, but...
Can anyone suggest why an '06 GT would be preferable over an in-stock '05 at $3K below MSRP?
A Mustang GT isn't going to sound like a Vette. Different engines and exhaust systems have different sounds. Add to that the valvetrain configuration and different engines have a signature sound. For instance, the 3V 4.6 doesn't sound like the 2V 4.6 at idle. The 2V actually sounds better at idle. On throttle, the 3V almost sounds like an exotic, IMO, and certain aftermarket systems make it sound even more exotic. I believe Borla or Magnaflow comes to mind.
Congrats!
http://www.magnaflow.com/02product/shopdisplayproducts.asp?SID=4Ford&zone=American&id=140&- cat=Mustang
sorry.
daniel
My advice is to join a mustang specific messageboard and look for sound clips (remember they may be bad recordings) . Also try and go to cruise nights so you can hear the exhaust notes with your own ears so you know exactly what was done to the car and what to expect.
Then again, the cars there get twice the mileage of the cars here. For example, at 90 cents a liter, my GT was getting about 380km a tank. Pretty good in my book and the same as my 99 GT. In italy, my Alfa Romeo 156 Station wagon, with a 1.9 TD was getting 850-900km...while averaging 150km/h! A great looking station wagon, possibly the most beautiful that I have ever seen and torquey as well.
The last week, all I could think about was my Mustang on those autostradas, whipping by and causing minor ear damage as I would surely downshift right as i blowby by an unsuspecting Italian!
I did have the pleasure of being passed by a Ferrari Enzo on the A1 going to Rome, when you are surrounded by Fiat Pandas, little Citroens and punt Peugeots all day, to see a car that wide in Italy was shocking. To hear it is as it quickly disappeared was very memorable.
The Mustang was dusty after sitting for a month, but fired up like an excited puppy, wagging its tail the first opportunity I had to rip it....AAAAAGGGGHHHHH! There is no place like home.
Great car. Still rattles in front of the passenger side seat which will be hopefully fixed tomorrow. If you open the glove box and reach in, there is a bar that, when held, stops the metal on metal rattling. I always would press on the dash, or give it a thundering right hook, but the problem definitely seems from the metal bars holding the airbag. I am also looking forward to new tires. When I picked up the car I picked upa set of Falken FK451 255.45R18 and the tires has had a balance problem. They told me it was the springs. I knew it wasn't. Finally, they put wheels from a 04 GT on and the car was perfect. It was a bad batch of tires as I suspected. Falken has a new, fresh (?) set ready so hopefully that will fix that annoyance.
Other than those gripes, I love my Mustang and look forward to tinkering with it next summer.
In the used market, I notice some sellers are asking very close to the MSRP of a new '05 GT - not likely given you can get a new one at or near invoice price if you negotiate right. Can't argue with that kind of deal.
I will be in the market for a V6 in late '06. I was wondering if there are mods for some modest gains (50 - 75 hp). Maybe even a supercharger after a year to two (need to save up for it).
I like the GT but prices are too steep for my pocket book.
FYI - drove past a dealer today that had a red with white racing stripes (GT I think).
"mind if I borrow 7 grand, I'll pay you back next month I swear......."
lol
drive safe,
Daniel
I ordered a GT vert on 7/15, at a small dealer in MD and is currently C/U at x-plan pricing. Also The dealer has only sent me a DOC with only a retail price on it. My sales person insists he doesnt know the x-plan price or allocation. It has been a frustrating experience, both having to wait in the dark, and also the feeling that the dealer is either incompetant or jerkin me around. So I inquired for a deal at Yeomans, and was told I can order at x-plan and expect delivery in 8-9 weeks. Although I wouldnt want to get stuck canceling and finding out my car would have been built sooner if I wait patiently, I was told the two GT orders in front of mine have been serialized. Just looking for some feedback from other Pony lovers in a similar situation.
First when orders are entered into Ford's computer, they show both retail and invoice and if you place the order as x-plan it will show x-plan price as well.
X-plan is usally around 3% over invoice on the vehicle.
Personally I think the dealer just regrets letting you order a GT at x-plan price.
I know my dealer is not taking x-plan or a-plan on any Mustangs.
Mark
I would be! :surprise: :surprise:
And if 0-60 times of 4 to 4.5 seconds are what the buyer is seeking, why in the heck would you start out with a V6 and have to stress it a lot more than just starting out with a V8? :confuse:
Daniel
But if you're interested in going that fast (whether under 4 or under 5 seconds to 60), why not just go with a V8 in the first place? :confuse:
I guess I've never understood buying the least powerful motor and then spending a bunch of money aftermarket to make it faster......
Honestly what I will eventually do is find an 05 4.0 motor and build it like I want that way I could put 13 psi of boost if not more and have the motor be able to handle it. Save the original and have a backup. It's fun to play with what you have and I don't have a GT so I'll play with the V6. Why do people get darn honda civics to run 11's on the quarter miles on a 2 liter engine.....
Daniel
I was told by a friend this weekend that the V6 is not a good engine to put a supercharger on. Something about it being already maxed out for cylinder size/cubic inches/displacement (I did not understand everything he was talking about).
I guess I'll wait till I find a nice used GT. Should be plenty once the GT500's and other variations hit the market. I still have a year to go before I can buy. Just a little while longer to dream.
Thanks to everyone for their input. It was highly valued.
THX!
It could take anywhere from a week to 3 weeks for all of that to transpire.
Hang in there. You're coming down to the home stretch.
But, your estimate of about 3 weeks after the build date is more realistic.
You'll have to make do with an the Itrip FM transmitter.
Mark