Dental floss works great. Wd40 will get the adhesive off.
So, what exactly is the procedure??
Spray with WD40 to get it loose, then floss, then more WD40 to get rest of adhesive off. I just don't see the letters coming off that easily - the paint job won't be effected?
This whole discussion is interesting. However, there's another school of thought, something that could cost $$$$ at trade-in time. Sometimes when logos, letters or trim-designations are missing on a pre-owned car, this can be construed as evidence that the vehicle has been in a serious wreck, and wasn't repaired "completely". Just a thought.
The dental floss is put between the emblem and the body and in a see-saw manner it is pulled under the emblem which will come off easily. If possible get it between the adhesive and the body. The WD40 is used to loosen the remaining adhesive that can't be removed with fingernails. 3M makes a emblem remover liquid that works and removes the adhesive quickly. I've never hurt the paint doing this. Some people do use fishing line.
I am interested in replacing the cassette deck in my 2006 Avalon with another audio device. Has anyone done this? I found an adaptor online called a "DF toy" that is supposed to allow me to interface any device that has an audio out into my existing radio. Has anyone used this device? Will the DF toy device interface with my existing radio without having to disconnect the cassette player?
I know I'd like to yank that waste of real estate and install a simple storage pocket..... Unfortunately, for the book on tape crowd it's a necessity. Remember that the demographic on this car is 60 + years old.
Check with your Toyota dealer's parts department, there is a pocket type piece made for the tape player hole. You have to take the center console apart to remove the tape player and install the pocket under the cover. I was planning on doing this because I think the tape player is a waste of space and weight but decided I really didn't need any more storage space and it probably wasn't worth ripping the console apart to do it.
Report: Recalls and quality issues may slow rollout by as much as six months. August 25 2006: 6:08 AM EDT
TOKYO (Reuters) -- Toyota Motor Corp., Japan's biggest auto maker, is considering delaying the introduction of some new models by as much as half a year amid a series of recalls and quality problems, the Wall Street Journal said Friday, citing people familiar with the matter.
Toyota, which has built its reputation on offering safe and reliable cars at reasonable prices, is plagued with a rise in vehicle recalls and faces a legal probe into its past recall practice.
"I have given an order to pay more attention on safety issues, but we as a company are not stalling," Toyota President Katsuaki Watanabe told reporters on the sidelines of a safety technology briefing in Shizuoka Prefecture, west of Tokyo.
"We always work flexibly on each model though," he added.
On the same day, China's quality watchdog said Toyota would recall over 20,000 locally made cars in the country due to a faulty rubber seal used to fix the windscreen, although no accidents or injuries had yet been linked to the defect.
The paper said Toyota is considering adding as much as three to six months to development lead time, which is usually two to three years to improve quality, affecting a relatively wide range of projects.
The next Sienna minivan, Solara sports coupe and Avalon sedan are among models that could be affected, it said.
Toyota spokeswoman Shiori Hashimoto said the company would not comment on its strategy and the timing of product introductions.
So far this year, Toyota has recalled more than one million vehicles in Japan and 627,000 units in the United States, its single-biggest market.
It is also being investigated by prosecutors in Kumamoto, southern Japan, over whether its quality-control managers wrongly delayed a recall filing that could have prevented a road accident in 2004 that injured a couple and their three young children.
Mitsubishi UFJ Securities analyst Shotaro Noguchi said financial impact from the quality issues would likely be limited for Toyota.
"We are not expecting any surprise in earnings from all this," he said. "It is a fact that Toyota has been busy in investments, so it is good to take time to check."
Toyota has forecast group-based global sales of 8.85 million units and production of 9.06 million units for 2006 -- figures that could soon see it overtake General Motors Corp. as the world's biggest auto maker.
Vehicle recalls have been on the rise at most auto makers as they use common components across more models to save costs, and pile on advanced features requiring more electronics parts to add value to their products. Shares in Toyota fell 1 percent to close at ¥ 6,250, underperforming a 0.1 percent decrease in the Nikkei average.
My car has NAV ('05 XLS) and I had them install Sirius at the dealer without any problems. I have the JBL sound system, not sure if it makes a difference.
larrymit: First, CHECKOUT the Nav System--its a JOKE!! I have an 06 limited with Nav and XM. Seriously, go and operate the Nav system. Check www.thegadgetguru.com great insight into the Nav!! Love the XM radio. I thought the Nav System was the same as the Lexus--touch screen. I'd turn in my Nav and go buy an $800 Garmin unit if I could. Good luck! Bob
My last post said I was waiting for Toyo to call me. After waiting two weeks for the promised call, I called them again and started over with another service rep. Three days later the customer service rep called me with their offer: a $750 credit that I could redeem from Toyo as I pay for maintenance, repair, tires, etc. Anything from a dealer. I must use the $750 within 2 years. It's not quite clear to me from their letter whether I can submit individual claims or must wait and submit the claims when they total $750.
It's chump change for Toyo but I'm just tired of dealing with them.
Yes but most of the existing books on tape are on cassettes, and many people also check them out from the local library which typically are all cassettes.
Most after market remotes dont shut the car off when you open a door. Lets say you choose to remote start the car for other passengers who will be sitting in the car, or may briefly get out and get back in the car? Many times I have remote started my car from a distance to allow passengers to relax in comfort until I got in. Does it make sense to have a system that shuts the car off just because a door is opened??? Some remote systems, allow the driver to set the remote start function with the key in the ignition.....so the key can be removed. If the system is designed to shutoff when a door is opened, then the driver has to remote start the car again. None of that makes sense.
The remote start should be designed to start ,run it's program or shut down by the drivers action. Not when a door or trunk is opened.
Thank you, finally someone that realizes this is plain STUPID. I believe this is another GOOF by Toyota as the unit is made by Denso, the same supplier that provides the NAV system that customers are constantly complaining about.
The Toyota Cares so-called customer care is another joke, they had no idea what I was talking about and when asked about re-programming the unit, was told by their Tech (?) Dept it was an anti-carjacking feature and would not re-program it because of liability, go figure. My reason for writing was to save my fellow travelers from purchasing this USELESS accessory. My old after market worked just like your present unit and as other writers have stated the sales people need a crash course in their products. My salesmen nor sales manager knew anything about this unit or so they said. And again thank you for your input.
Oops, more dead horses getting beaten to death. I have been lucky, when I bought my last four cars, an Olds, Buick, BMW and VW, I asked and I was allowed to sit down and read through the owners manual before I bought the car.
Have an 05 XLS and edges of a couple of wheels have gotten scratched. My dealer says Toyota does NOT make paint for wheels. Has anyone found a sourch of touchup paint for wheels? It would seem since Toyota paints the wheels, they should offer paint.
hardly a dead horse. what we are witnessing is an increase in complexity by engineers that need a good course in human factors and usability analysis.
i'm sure you come across many products everyday that do not operate intuitively, naturally, or per all your prior learning.
you are an exception w.r.t. sitting down and reading the entire manual before purchasing the car. unfortunately, the typical owner doesn't read the manual AFTER buying the car (that's stupid).
but it is not unrealistic to believe that the premier automaker has their ducks lined up w.r.t. ergonomics and man/machine systems. and yet, here and there, we can see them missing the boat. :surprise:
Hi folks. We've just completed a major reorganization of the Avalon board in order to have more specific topics of discussion instead of the mega-huge umbrellas that we've had in the past.
The posts from the Problems & Solutions, Accessories & Modifications and Care & Maintenance discussions have all been redistributed to smaller topics and those three discussions have been removed.
What you will want to do, if you haven't already, is go to the top-level of the Avalon board by clicking here, then click on the Track this Group link (on the right just over the discussion list). Then you'll want to use Read New Posts to keep up with current posts and any new discussions that will be created in the future.
At first, all of these new, smaller discussions will appear as unread to you, but you probably have seen all the posts in their original discussions. Just use the Recent Msgs link to get caught up.
Please note that in this process some discussions were recreated (like MPG, Transmission, Audio and maybe a couple of others). If you were tracking any that were recreated, you have lost that track.
This will make searching our Forums for meaningful information much easier for those who get here using internet search engines, as well as make it easier on all of us to keep up with the subtopics that truly interest us.
Thanks for posting the link to the online owners manual, bluesman3! What I've done is moved your post to the brand new shiny Shop, Repair and Owner Manuals discussion.
They've made the Avalon forums more complicated than the Avalon NAV system. Ever since we purchased our 06 in January, I have found this particular forum to be quite interesting and informative. Due to the recent "reorganization", I doubt I will be back. Good luck to all owners. We love our Avalon, quirks and all. Bye. Indyres
"They've made the Avalon forums more complicated than the Avalon NAV system"
With respect, that's a silly statement. You can easily bookmark the global Avalon forums and select "Avalon 2005+" if that's the only form you're interested in. If you find this complicated, I can understand why you have trouble with the NAV system.
I think that the Avalon 2005=+ forums have been ruined. The origional forum may be complex with many topics but at least it was interesting. Who wants to go through 44 different forums to find something of general interest? Not I. The 2005+ forum has no new postings since the 28th. I will remove the Avalon bookmark from my favorites folder. Pity, as that was the first thing I checked every morning. Pat- Please don't try to explain how I am wrong as I know you will not revert to the origional format.Sincerely, H. Gallie
Re post 13122. Not a silly statement. NO new postings as this morning since the 28th of Aug.on the 2005+ forum. Who wants to go through 44 different forums to find something of general interest? Sincerely, H. Gallie
If you Track This Group - Toyota Avalon - and use Read New Posts after that, it will be exactly the same as when you came to this discussion for all of those subjects.
I'm really sorry that some of you are unhappy with the direction the Forums are going - I truly am. I have as much difficulty with changes as anyone else, actually more difficulty than most people I know. But it is what it is and there is an easy way to make it work for you.
The problem is that hardly anyone will post on the 2005+ forum as almost any subject brought up will belong in one of the 44 sub-forums. Look at the lack of posts in the 2005+ forum since the change. If one wishes to post an item now one must check all 44 forums to see which one it belongs in or start new one. I do not wish to pursue this further. As you said-"what it is is what it is> Sincerely, H. G.
Since 9/48 AM on 8/28 the only posts have been about the new structure and other than the Host all negative. Given the previous level of activity that alone should show that the recent changes have not been well received, or maybe someone will 'prove' that everyone went on vacation and lost internet access at that exact moment. I did click the Host's link and saw all the 'forums' and noted that dates of last posting, one had an 8/31 post, a couple had an 8/30 post and the rest were older than that.
Oh well, as was said, it is what it is, and it is now less than it was, so I also will not be back. I checked in every morning with my coffee 1st thing in the morning, and just read through the list, enjoying the diversity of topics and comments, (I think that was what was the best feature), and found several things of interest that now must be found by going from topic to topic. It's been improved to the point it is not friendly anymore.
Pat - Appreciate your efforts & I don't have a major problem with the reorganized topics - it only takes an extra few seconds to see if a specific topic that you want to read or write about has its own separate message board. But I do have 2 general questions about the reorg: First, I don't really understand the distinction between the message board for Avalon 2005+ versus the separate board for the 2007 Avalon. I wonder if that may be an unintended case of overlapping topics where some forum participants may become confused about where to look for postings of particular interest to them. Second, before the reorganization, it seemed that the various Avalon boards were listed in such a way that those boards with the most recent postings were all grouped together at the top of the list, and that arrangement seemed logical & helpful. Is that no longer the sequence in which the various Avalon topics will be listed -and if not, why?
I do not see the "read new posts" prompt on the screen so I can get my information in the "traditional" way. Please identify the specific location. Thanks.
Yeah, we're caught in a transition and some things may not make 100% sense, but we're working on it. The sort order of the discussions by last post date will straighten itself out over time.
The Read New Posts link is available in two places. One is under Forum Tools on the upper left side of the page and the other is between the page bar (gray) and the Post a Message bar (orange) just over the post box (assuming you are logged in).
Again, I am sincerely sorry some of you are unhappy with this. However, I cannot change what's going on; this is a Forums-wide paradigm shift.
Going forward, please post your comments about the reorganization in our Forums Software discussion or email the Help desk (link at the bottom of the page).
Thanks - I do appreciate your cooperation and your efforts to adapt to what is happening.
You can also email me with any logistical questions you might have. I'll be more than happy to try to help.
Yes, people DO expect things to work as they are supposed to. Turn on the radio and get music or news, AC should cool, heat should be warm etc.
Since I can't use certain words or they will yank my reply, lets just say neither I nor my wife worry about carjackers. What always amuses me is people who scream about their First Amendment Rights are the very ones who tromp on and try to ignore the next one. And I will stay with the forum as long as people respond intelligently and not with malice.
Hmmmm. After navigating the new Avalon forums, I've changed my mind and now agree with the majority who have posted negative feedback about the new Avalon forum structure. Previously, if I wanted to access a topic on an 2005,2006 or 2007 Avalon, it was a simple procedure to input a key word. Now, I have to guess in which forum to search a topic. Since the 05,06 & 07 Avalons are basically the same, I believe they should be in one global forum. I believe the very popular 2005+ forum will attract much less traffic buried in this new multi-form format.
The new multi-forum format is likely being driven by a desire for more revenue. More eyeballs on more pages will yield more ad dollars. After all, these forums are free only for users. Edmunds must sell advertising to pay for them and, hopefully, earn a profit in the process.
If that's what they have to do, so be it. I've read too many useful comments from informed people to complain about this minor inconvenience.
You do not have to guess at all. Just go to the top-level Avalon group - Toyota Avalon - and use the search feature on the right just over the discussion list. It will search all Avalon-related discussions for whatever keywords you have given it.
Folks, I'm sorry, but this debate is not useful - you are debating with someone who can do nothing but keep reposting the same suggestions . I gave you some options to continue your comments. Please take advantage of them.
We understand you cannot change things but remember the more catagories there are for the forum the more you are going to tell us were in the wrong spot or to "stick to the forum",I may write one paragraph about a 06 Avalon and it could possibly pertain to 4 or 5 catagories.
We have a 2006 Avalon XLS, that we ordered this year! We have driven around 1600 miles and WE LOVE IT! So far, no rattles,leaks,sueaks or gas pedal problems. We have NO COMPLAINTS! I do have a question thou, about our PARK ASSIST, that we ordered on our car. My question is to anyone that has it on their car and how does it work for them. When we back up, the sounding beep starts sounding off, when there is nothing behind us. On our Ford truck, the back up sensor does not sound off until you get near something and the closer you get, the faster it starts beeping. Where as, on our Avalon, it beeps PRACTICALLY ALL THE TIME, like a WARNING to other people that we are backing up, but the sound is on the INSIDE of the car, NOT on the outside for other people to hear. I am thinking that maybe it needs adjusting. We would appreciate any info on this. TexasRed :confuse:
Your problem may be that the sensors are picking up reflections from the ground. My guess is that they need to be tilted upwards so that their faces are horizontal.
To me it sounds as if you could have a shorted sensor, wiring or control module to cause the unit to beep as you report. A crooked sensor would be clearly visible. Alternatively, all the sensors may have been erroneously placed too low on the bumper and they are all tilted downward. Since the Park Assist system came with your Avalon it should be fixed or replaced under warranty, so I'd just ask the dealer to check it.
Glad to hear that the rest of the car is working well for you. My early 2005 XLS has now over 1 1/2 years and 32,000 km and all is good, including the Awell back-up sensors that I installed early on. My dealer fixed an intermittent squeak coming from inside the rear cabin, it was the hinge of a reclining seat back that just needed lubrication.
By the way, Pat, I'm surprised that there isn't a separately listed "Avalon -- back-up sensors" topic yet? (Never mind, I'm just kidding, eh!)
That sounds reasonable. I think my next step will be to contact our local Toyota repair shop. I was afraid that I would find out that that was the way that it is supposed to work and that there was nothing wrong with it. I have not contacted anyone yet, your statement gives me hope. Thanks again, TexasRed
It make me feel good that it sounds like I have a problem that can be fixed. I really LOVE the car and so does my husband. This was the only thing that I was a little disappointed in. So, I will definitely make an appointment, to get it fixed. Glad that you are still enjoying your Avalon as much as we are. Thanks again. TexasRed
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So, what exactly is the procedure??
Spray with WD40 to get it loose, then floss, then more WD40 to get rest of adhesive off. I just don't see the letters coming off that easily - the paint job won't be effected?
What about fishing line? Better than floss?
Steve
Not really worried about trade-in value. But thanks for the comments!
jb
Report: Recalls and quality issues may slow rollout by as much as six months.
August 25 2006: 6:08 AM EDT
TOKYO (Reuters) -- Toyota Motor Corp., Japan's biggest auto maker, is considering delaying the introduction of some new models by as much as half a year amid a series of recalls and quality problems, the Wall Street Journal said Friday, citing people familiar with the matter.
Toyota, which has built its reputation on offering safe and reliable cars at reasonable prices, is plagued with a rise in vehicle recalls and faces a legal probe into its past recall practice.
"I have given an order to pay more attention on safety issues, but we as a company are not stalling," Toyota President Katsuaki Watanabe told reporters on the sidelines of a safety technology briefing in Shizuoka Prefecture, west of Tokyo.
"We always work flexibly on each model though," he added.
On the same day, China's quality watchdog said Toyota would recall over 20,000 locally made cars in the country due to a faulty rubber seal used to fix the windscreen, although no accidents or injuries had yet been linked to the defect.
The paper said Toyota is considering adding as much as three to six months to development lead time, which is usually two to three years to improve quality, affecting a relatively wide range of projects.
The next Sienna minivan, Solara sports coupe and Avalon sedan are among models that could be affected, it said.
Toyota spokeswoman Shiori Hashimoto said the company would not comment on its strategy and the timing of product introductions.
So far this year, Toyota has recalled more than one million vehicles in Japan and 627,000 units in the United States, its single-biggest market.
It is also being investigated by prosecutors in Kumamoto, southern Japan, over whether its quality-control managers wrongly delayed a recall filing that could have prevented a road accident in 2004 that injured a couple and their three young children.
Mitsubishi UFJ Securities analyst Shotaro Noguchi said financial impact from the quality issues would likely be limited for Toyota.
"We are not expecting any surprise in earnings from all this," he said. "It is a fact that Toyota has been busy in investments, so it is good to take time to check."
Toyota has forecast group-based global sales of 8.85 million units and production of 9.06 million units for 2006 -- figures that could soon see it overtake General Motors Corp. as the world's biggest auto maker.
Vehicle recalls have been on the rise at most auto makers as they use common components across more models to save costs, and pile on advanced features requiring more electronics parts to add value to their products. Shares in Toyota fell 1 percent to close at ¥ 6,250, underperforming a 0.1 percent decrease in the Nikkei average.
Has anyone run into this? Can the XM be added after delivery if NAV is installed?
My car has NAV ('05 XLS) and I had them install Sirius at the dealer without any problems. I have the JBL sound system, not sure if it makes a difference.
Bob
It's chump change for Toyo but I'm just tired of dealing with them.
On the other hand, it does provide another connection option for an mp3 player (cassette adaptor).
The remote start should be designed to start ,run it's program or shut down by the drivers action. Not when a door or trunk is opened.
The Toyota Cares so-called customer care is another joke, they had no idea what I was talking about and when asked about re-programming the unit, was told by their Tech (?) Dept it was an anti-carjacking feature and would not re-program it because of liability, go figure. My reason for writing was to save my fellow travelers from purchasing this USELESS accessory. My old after market worked just like your present unit and as other writers have stated the sales people need a crash course in their products. My salesmen nor sales manager knew anything about this unit or so they said. And again thank you for your input.
i'm sure you come across many products everyday that do not operate intuitively, naturally, or per all your prior learning.
you are an exception w.r.t. sitting down and reading the entire manual before purchasing the car. unfortunately, the typical owner doesn't read the manual AFTER buying the car (that's stupid).
but it is not unrealistic to believe that the premier automaker has their ducks lined up w.r.t. ergonomics and man/machine systems. and yet, here and there, we can see them missing the boat. :surprise:
The posts from the Problems & Solutions, Accessories & Modifications and Care & Maintenance discussions have all been redistributed to smaller topics and those three discussions have been removed.
What you will want to do, if you haven't already, is go to the top-level of the Avalon board by clicking here, then click on the Track this Group link (on the right just over the discussion list). Then you'll want to use Read New Posts to keep up with current posts and any new discussions that will be created in the future.
At first, all of these new, smaller discussions will appear as unread to you, but you probably have seen all the posts in their original discussions. Just use the Recent Msgs link to get caught up.
Please note that in this process some discussions were recreated (like MPG, Transmission, Audio and maybe a couple of others). If you were tracking any that were recreated, you have lost that track.
This will make searching our Forums for meaningful information much easier for those who get here using internet search engines, as well as make it easier on all of us to keep up with the subtopics that truly interest us.
Enjoy!!
Good luck to all owners. We love our Avalon, quirks and all.
Bye.
Indyres
With respect, that's a silly statement. You can easily bookmark the global Avalon forums and select "Avalon 2005+" if that's the only form you're interested in. If you find this complicated, I can understand why you have trouble with the NAV system.
I'm really sorry that some of you are unhappy with the direction the Forums are going - I truly am.
I hope you'll try.
I did click the Host's link and saw all the 'forums' and noted that dates of last posting, one had an 8/31 post, a couple had an 8/30 post and the rest were older than that.
Oh well, as was said, it is what it is, and it is now less than it was, so I also will not be back. I checked in every morning with my coffee 1st thing in the morning, and just read through the list, enjoying the diversity of topics and comments, (I think that was what was the best feature), and found several things of interest that now must be found by going from topic to topic. It's been improved to the point it is not friendly anymore.
Bye and happy motoring!!
Thanks for your comments.
Going forward, please post your comments about the reorganization in our Forums Software discussion or email the Help desk (link at the bottom of the page).
Thanks - I do appreciate your cooperation and your efforts to adapt to what is happening.
You can also email me with any logistical questions you might have. I'll be more than happy to try to help.
Since I can't use certain words or they will yank my reply, lets just say neither I nor my wife worry about carjackers. What always amuses me is people who scream about their First Amendment Rights are the very ones who tromp on and try to ignore the next one. And I will stay with the forum as long as people respond intelligently and not with malice.
If that's what they have to do, so be it. I've read too many useful comments from informed people to complain about this minor inconvenience.
Folks, I'm sorry, but this debate is not useful - you are debating with someone who can do nothing but keep reposting the same suggestions
I'm going to have to start removing these off-topic posts, so I hope that if you want to comment, you will indeed follow one (or more) of the suggestions here: pat, "Toyota Avalon 2005+" #13136, 31 Aug 2006 3:09 pm.
Thanks very much.
catagories there are for the forum the more you are going to
tell us were in the wrong spot or to "stick to the forum",I
may write one paragraph about a 06 Avalon and it could possibly pertain to 4 or 5 catagories.
TexasRed :confuse:
Your problem may be that the sensors are picking up reflections from the ground. My guess is that they need to be tilted upwards so that their faces are horizontal.
Dandydon
To me it sounds as if you could have a shorted sensor, wiring or control module to cause the unit to beep as you report. A crooked sensor would be clearly visible. Alternatively, all the sensors may have been erroneously placed too low on the bumper and they are all tilted downward. Since the Park Assist system came with your Avalon it should be fixed or replaced under warranty, so I'd just ask the dealer to check it.
Glad to hear that the rest of the car is working well for you. My early 2005 XLS has now over 1 1/2 years and 32,000 km and all is good, including the Awell back-up sensors that I installed early on. My dealer fixed an intermittent squeak coming from inside the rear cabin, it was the hinge of a reclining seat back that just needed lubrication.
By the way, Pat, I'm surprised that there isn't a separately listed "Avalon -- back-up sensors" topic yet? (Never mind, I'm just kidding, eh!)
havalongavalon
That sounds reasonable. I think my next step will be to contact our local Toyota repair shop.
I was afraid that I would find out that that was the way that it is supposed to work and that there was nothing wrong with it. I have not contacted anyone yet, your statement gives me hope.
Thanks again,
TexasRed
It make me feel good that it sounds like I have a problem that can be fixed. I really LOVE the car and so does my husband. This was the only thing that I was a little disappointed in. So, I will definitely make an appointment, to get it fixed.
Glad that you are still enjoying your Avalon as much as we are.
Thanks again.
TexasRed