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Mine's doing the same thing ... turning itself off when I push NO buttons ... so it's not you. I'm going back over to the Verizon store in a bit ... see what they have to say for themselves. Unfortunately my salesman and his manager haven't sold a unit prior to mine so their familiarity with it is marginal at best. I'll keep you posted by e-mail :shades: ... and thanks again. :shades:
Hope you can get it worked out.
Bart
I'm heading to Verizon tomorrow morning. I was told by the sales rep (the store manager) that there will be a WM2005 upgrade later this year (he didn't know if it would be free - from Verizon, I would assume not!), so it's important to report that problem *now* for Samsung to fix the issue before the release. Thanks again!
Raises the question of returning the present i730 for a full refund and waiting for the correction to buy again ... beats being stuck with the badly programmed present units. My guess is that there's a chance the sales force might offer the software upgrade free when offered if threatened with loss of a $700 sale + service contract. Given their 15 day trial period I'm tempted to try and return phone after phone after phone ... at no cost to me ... until they get it right. We're buying their top of the line equipment ... they owe us top of the line performance. :shades:
Bart
Bart
For what it's worth, this forum has confirmed everything about the car that I thought it would be after driving it a few times. Thanks to all who have contributed.
Although the phone is not supported on Infiniti's web site, I called Infiniti, talked to a "Bluetooth Expert", and confirmed it's not supported because it hasn't been tested yet. They told me to check the compatibility list next month as it will be updated. He also told me that Infiniti has no current plan to upgrade the Bluetooth firmware on the car, which also runs BT 1.1.
So for today, there's no apparent solution. My recommendation: if the fact that the i730's BT is turned off when you turn the car off is a bother to you, don't go with the i730.
I hope it gets better for you, but so far you are the first on this forum to complain about this.
P.S. I didn't like the RL either. The M hands down beat BMW, MB, Acura, all!
I have the V710 and it functioned perfectly ... with one exception. You can't import the phone's phone numbers into the car's sound system; you need to enter each of your frequently dialed numbers into the car's system and from then on it's hands free. Bart
The seating has been the single largest complaint registered about this car since I've been on this thread ... almost three months. The driver's seat is a bit stiff but the power adjustments make it the most comfortable seat I've ever had. The beef, however, is the poor adjustability of the passenger's seat and the comment was repeatedly "for a car in this price range the passenger's seat is an Achilles heel". Some have actually posted they didn't buy an M because the wife couldn't get comfortable in that seat. Bart
I turned BT on and started the car. I played with M35 phone controls a bit then shut the car off. bluetooth stayed on. I did this twice same result. Thats the good news.
The bad news (IMHO) is we have a nother half baked gadget.
While it preformed for the above test the phone was disconnecting, connecting and other crazy things all day. The user interface sucks. This unit is a PDA with an emergency use phone attached. Worse it is always trying to connect to the Verizon 1X data connection to do an active sync. I did not buy the 45.00 per month data plan (and never would) so it bills you on the pay as you go data plan everytime it hooks up!! ALSO be careful with the holster. that tiny piece of plastic holding the phone in the holster has let go of my phone twice with it landing on the floor!!!!!
I still have the Treo I bought 13 days ago and it looks as though I may switch back the service to that unit and return the samsung.
I wish I had better news guys!!!
Craig
Craig: can you confirm that Bluetooth is still on 30 seconds after you turn the car off? In my case, when I turn the car off, the i730 is activated/awaken, and Bluetooth is turned off approx. 15 seconds after.
Thanks!
I turned BT on and started the car. I played with M35 phone controls a bit then shut the car off. bluetooth stayed on. I did this twice same result. Thats the good news.
The bad news (IMHO) is we have a nother half baked gadget.
Craig ... As mexibec states, it's taking ~ 15 - 30 seconds for the BT to auto turn off (at least for us; we've been in contact via e-mail). I'm getting more comfortable with the unit but there's a piece of me that says "why?" I don't (and likely won't) use most of the functions and my primary reason for getting it was to decrease by one the number of pieces of "stuff" I shlep around every day. As much as I'd like to be a high tech kinda guy, truth be known I'm a "KISS" kinda guy (Keep It Short and Simple). I'll give it a bit more time (I have until the end of next week) but if I don't see a significant amount of value added I'll turn it in and get the best phone I can and carry that and the Palm. Bart
Aren't you getting carried away, my friend? Chill out, dude. The original post was about Sirius not your beloved XM.
> ... but to say that there is repetition on the music channels is silly since the author 'sampled' so few of the stations.
Ditto. The repetition I observed was within a single channel #71 on Sirius not on XM. At least one of the songs got played 3 times within a 6-8 hr window on a long Sunday drive. Saying that there is no repetion on Sirius because the playlists are deep on XM and one can switch to other channels is lunacy, indeed. Sorry, could not resist.
As far as the quality of XM goes, I briefly tested it on a Mark Levinson in a new Lexus GS after a test drive. It also left something to be desired. Sorry, but from an all-digital music service for $13 or so a month, I do expect very-near-CD quality in terms of both the lack of compression artifacts and the ample audio bandwidth. But, I guess not everybody pays attention to such things.
Perhaps XM is really better than Sirius; I would like to hear from somebody who seriously evaluated the two services for quality (not only for contents) before I shell out money to switch the receiver front-end.
I stated Z18 claying was overrated in that it did not remove as much as was generally claimed. I also stated Z2 was somewhat overrated in terms of ease of application and removal, and the resulting gloss, even when compared to Z5.
An additional drawback I noticed a few days later was that Z5 had relatively poor swirl coverage (most of the work was done in the garage not in sunlight).
> Instead of seeing a layer of dust within the first day of cleaning, it generally takes 3 or 4 days for dust to become noticeable.
Correct. Z2 and Z5 are said to have anti-static properties.
I will report more upon the next application in late September (in preparation for the fall/winter season).
Craig :confuse: :confuse:
http://www.suntimes.com/output/auto/car-news-car11.html
Yet another glowing review! Only complaints were the angled dashboard controls (I think the angle facing up at you makes more sense than facing forward and away from your eyes as is typical). I'm surprised we have not seen this "ATM" layout before now. Also he did not like the push button engine start; I love it and think it would grow on those used to driving cars with keys for decades. Other than personal autos and boats I think almost everything else starts with a button or two. There are no keys to an F-14 or an Abrams M-1 are there?
With the Treo 650 (my initial preference) have you found a way to dial out hands free? The complaint posted here a couple of times is that the Treo receives well hands free but outgoing calls MUST be started from the Treo. That was the reason for opting for the more costly i730. You've used both. Would like to hear your experience. If all it takes is remembering to push a button before getting into the car to activate BT and be able to initiate calls through the car's audio system, then it's functionality is the same as the i730 for my purposes and it's a whole lot less cumbersome and less espensive.
Thanks.
111 here today; thankfully I'll be in the office all day.
Bart :shades:
I don't know what happen, but I guess I have to sit down tonight and re-enter all of the numbers.
Also when I'm driving at highway speeds, and talking over the speaker, people complain that they can't hear me to well.
My V710's sound was adequate at best. The sound through the i730 is superb .... loud, crisp and clear. Doesn't change the fact that the Samsung has a mind of its own and for that reason may well be returned tomorrow. As I posted yesterday, sometimes it turns BT off when turning the engine off. This morning it didn't. Then when I got home this afternoon it gave me a screen prompt "do you want to turn BT off?". I have several issues with the Samsung, not the least of which is it has much more capability than I can ever use and therefore more complex than I am inclined to learn. More important, however, is this goofy inconsistent BT function. Bart
Craig
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Craig ... mexibec opined that your lack of success with the Samsung may be due to the fact that you have an M35 and he has an M45. I have an M35 and the BT function is too erratic for me. It's illogical to assume that the M35 and M45 have different BT systems. Sound performance is wonderful with the Samsung, but not knowing when BT is on or off is a pain. If all I have to do is push a button on the Treo to start a voice call out ---- sheeeeeesh, that's not a biggie. Then again, given my lack of desire to be Mr. High Tech, perhaps I should get the best BT phone and keep carrying my Palm. The Samsung's voice capability is superb ... but not worth a king's ransom (nor stress on my aged coronaries). My better half is giving me grief about bailing out, but I'm the one who has to live with whatever I have and I'm unwilling to spend the next few months learning how to take advantage of all Samsung's abilities while still trying to remember to carry glasses with me to see what the little rascal's telling me.
Trivial, yet significant, is the plastic "holster". It's an invitation to dropping the Samsung. I'm paying a few bucks per month for insurance but I don't like worrying about a piece of cheap plastic protecting a $700 piece of hardware. That holster is only minimally secure. Two "clicks", the first of which is useless and the second of which locks it in. So so. Bart
My Motorola V710 was OK but somewhat muted, and my Samsung i730 is loud and crystal clear with no change in settings. I suspect the problem's with the phone, not the car's audio system. Interested to see what others have to say.
The Samsung's going back to Verizon today. It falls short of expectations, isn't sufficiently predictably functional, and far too complex for my tastes. I'll give the Treo 650 a shot ... even though an outgoing call can't be initiated from it. I make so few phone calls from the car that the little occasional nuisance of having to dial on the nav screen is acceptable.
It's annoying that none of these mobile carriers can "demo" a unit in your car without first activating service. I don't see anything that would stop them from having active units of their own that they can couple to the car's BT system for a "test drive". I guess they use this as a strategy to boost sales knowing that some will work better than others and their sales numbers might plummet.
Also, I'd like to get an idea of what people are paying for insurance. I got a quote from my Allstate agent for $545 per 6 months using the VIN #s from the car I will be buying, which is not a bad premium at considering the price of the car.
Let's hear it guys and gals.......
Nah it hasn't dried up; it just changed into a Bluetooth discussion
For those with Sprint, have they seen an improvement in Bluetooth compatibility?
Has anyone tried the update for unlocked GSM...on a Cingular phone?
And only a select handful of folks are interested in reading about Bluetooth and what phones work with it. Someone will come along with something interesting to talk about sooner or later and the topic will be back on track. ;-)
I could've sworn there was a dedicated Bluetooth forum on Edmunds...
PAT: is there's such a forum? That'd be great to have one so that this forum can stay focused on the M...
Enjoy!
Well, at least I can laugh at him next winter on the icy roads....and my kids in the back can laugh at his kids from their heated/reclining rear seats.
Oh, yeah, I really don't have any dislikes about my car itself. I look forward to getting into it every single drive (I'm almost as bad as that ad where the guy drives 30 feet to the mailbox and back--terrible for gas mileage).
Anybody in MI getting a good rate? A good auto insurance rate in MI is kind of an oxymoron--we've got this thing call unlimited catasrophic claims or some such nonsense. The effect is that every single dollar of medical care and long term care (for life) is covered. I'm not saying this is bad, but then we have people who don't want to obey seat belt and helmet laws--thank you very much.
Let's get some more feedback from owners' experiences. I too ordered the black car and I have seen very few on the road or even parking garages. I've started to see a bunch more RLs as well as the new Lexus GS, but the Ms have been scarce. I know my dealer in Barrington, IL is selling them as they come in, I just can't seem to see where these owners are driving their cars.
Things I like the most
Incredible power and acceleration and handling..even at highway speeds.(And this is with me taking it easy because of break-in) Everyone seems to disappear in the rear-view mirror..
Cooled seats. July, DC, Black leather interior. Need I say more?
Rear view camera. I'm getting use to it now and how to use it. It's a big help backing into parking places.
The audio system - OUTSTANDINGLY WONDERFUL...XM rules. And the MP3 CD changer is great. Can't wait to pick up a couple DVD-A discs..
Keyless entry/push button start. VERY convienient. Did not take long to get use to it.
Adaptive cruise control. Works well. I'm very impressed.
Navigation system. Has to be one of the best out there.
Bluetooth phone. I love just jumping in the car and leaving my cell in my pocket as the car takes it over. My Moto V600 works great.
Plus all the other cool electronic goodies.
Disapointments
No auto door lock when you put it in drive.(as discussed on this forum). I can't believe they missed this. I really miss it as I have had it on cars for 10 years. Now I keep forgetting to lock the doors. If they don't believe in it (like daytime running lights) they should have least given me the option in "Settings". I hope this can be updated via firmware in the future.
XM artist and title truncated in the display. Annoying. I hope they also can fix this via firmware.
No coin holder.(@ least on my model w/ my options). A nit I know, but I was looking for one. I use one of the cup holders instead. I shouldn't have to.
Power trunk closer. Would be nice for a $60K Lux car.
Passenger seat lacko adjustments. It should have the same as the drivers seat. I don't sit there, but I would like my passengers to be comfy....On the other hand this is a plus for the wife. Maybe she won't want to ride along...I can dream can't I?
That's it for disappointments so far...Oh yeah. I was not very impressed with my dealer. Felt like I was buying a Chevy not a premium luxury brand..
I considered all in class and have ZERO regrets not having picked a MB, BMW, etc...I only need to impress myself. I have. It's just a gorgeous machine with it's 6 coats of Zaino on it. SWEET!!
As one of the reviewed summed it up. "The M45 ROCKS!!...Game over".
Do not remember having this problem with any other vehicle. I do have to say that the car has amazing traction in the bad weather and flooded roads.
I have 1500 miles and love the car. I do need to get the rattle in the roof foxed. Seems to be a common complaint. I am glad to hear that there is an easy fix.
Still need to get into some features I have not explaored like blue tooth and need to master navagation. Can some on tell me how to get the correct street. First I choose street number, then OK then street name, then it lists choices but not the one I need, do you need to enter a town? HELP
thanks,
Jeff
Ted
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