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So, every time my wife complains that her Solara convertible doesn't ride as smooth as my Lexus SUV (RX 300), I remind her of two things: 1. How the Mustang and Chrysler drove 2. How little space there was in the Audi and BMW 325, and what they cost versus the performance differences. I then offer to trade her my Lexus for her convertible and she looks at me like I am crazy.
WHen you buy a convertible, you have to make tradeoffs verus a hardtop of similar cost (ride, visibility, etc.). If you want the best ride for $30K, look at a Lexus or Accura sedan. If you decide that the benefits of the open sky are worth it, then you have to start comparing convertibles to convertibles. EVERYONE interested in this car should drive the Sebring and Mustang for comparison of similarly priced vehicles. They should also test drive the Audi A4 and BMW 3 series to see what the differences are with cars that cost $45-50K. It will make for a much better informed decision.
Regarding "Firm" versus "smooth", the Mustang is more of a sports/performance car. Some sports car enthusiasts prefer to feel a more direct linkage between the car, the road, and themselves. The SLE is more of a scaled back luxury car or a cruiser.
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It is very difficult to explain but on these cars you can feel the tires hit a bump without the whole car reacting. On the Toyota the whole car seems to shake and bounce. I'd be interested in a consumer's (not a professional automobile tester's) opinion of the ride between the three convertibles. Anyway getting the tires down to 30 lbs of air in the Solara made the ride bearable for me. I'm not happy but I can live with it for awhile.
Cut the roof off of anything and you are going to get shake, I have driven most of 'em and trust me, it is there....Go rent a Chrysler or Ford at the local airport for the afternoon and you will come back skipping to the Solara....I never even drove the coupe (or even our convertible) before we owned it, and while it is not absolutely perfect, I would never think to say it rode poorly...
Admitttedly, I do not have ANY wheel time in a Malibu..perhaps I am missing something?
Thanks!
Agree with the XLR...great lines but a lousy interior and no storage space to think of. I actually gave up my hunt for a '93 Northstar powered Allante when I finally found one and realized it wasn't as I remembered it to be. It was a 12 year old car that had an oil leak.
Yes, the radio blows in the car, we have the nav/radio and it gets NO reception. And the nav system, you can keep it as far as I am concerned. You piloted the '63 Impala with a map or directions and I think that same "type" of navigation is still best today..
Apparently, none of you have ever ridden a motorcycle. Talk about picking the nits..So you get a little rain on you when you open the door, carry a towel! So you don't have 10 locking compartments, put valuables in the trunk! So you actually have to turn your head to look around while backing up or changing lanes? Should be doing that anyway! So the stereo isn't as good as XXX. If you want audiophile, build a room on your home and drop moola til it sounds good in there. If you want to ENJOY your music, find a road you've never been down before, or one you know and love. Put in Yes-Fragile, followed by Steve Miller-Fly Like an Eagle, then maybe some Steely Dan-Gaucho or Jimi Hendrix-Blues. Drop that top, crank up the tunes and enjoy! When you're done, use the NAV and pick a different route to go home. Quit over analyzing everything and ENJOY!! Every car has positive and negative traits. Don't run the Solara down for being what it is, a mid size, mid priced, comfortable, roomy and dependable platform for dropping the top and watching the world go by! Concentrate on wringing all the enjoyment out of your Solara you can. I went joyriding Sat, Sun, and I'll be going again today. And you can bet I won't be worrying about my rearward visibility as opposed to umpty scrunch. Nuthin but highway ahead of me, nuthin behind me but history!
Later!
Mark(me)
2. Should I wait and buy the 2006 or is the 2005 good enough? What's the difference anyway?
3. Anyone know of getting a lower price than the sticker price, I was just quoted for a 05 Solara conv SLE for $31,026, I'm wondering if I should go lower and continue haggling?
I appreciate anyone's input.
Every day you wait is another day without a convertible, BUY IT NOW! AFAIK the 2006 MAY have better rearward visibility and is about 60 bucks more. I heard that somewhere, I don't know for sure tho.
I bought mine for sticker, dealer wouldn't go lower, and I didn't want to hassle with it. I figure 1-2K more or less isn't gonna change my standard of living one iota. It's mind over matter-If you don't mind, then it doesn't matter! (I did get 1.5K over what I owed on my trade tho!)
Later!
Mark(me)
Thank you for the advice. I actually don't mind the sticker price myself and like you I can't get any dealer to go any lower. The problem is my trade in car, I still owe a lot on it and (dealer) doesn't want to give me any more money for my trade in. I'll go to a few more dealers and see what other dealers will want to offer me for my car and I'll just have to go to the dealer that will give me the best price for it.
Still undecided about the red vs. black issue but i' m hoping that I'll be able to decide once I see more of them.
Ron from Jersey City, NJ
whatever you pick Black or Red you will be happy both color are ok, i personally own a 2004 Lunar Mist with a black top and gray interior and I can begin to tell you how much i love the car.
Good luck with your purchase and hope you enjoy it as much as a lot people are enjoying it to date.
Bill J
Thanks for the info. I will definitely check this out. Regarding the new car I'd like to purchase some of the dealers are saying that it's harder to maintain (keep clean, and from stains) the tan top. So the dealers is definitely recommending a black top either on the red or black exterior. This would mean I would have to also get a dark gray interior.
ANYONE having trouble in maintaining their brown soft top in any convertible? I live on the East Coast...and I'm planning to keep the car for a long time esp. since it's a toyota it will probably last me longer than I'd like to keep the car.
Ron from Jersey CIty, NJ
Thanks for your input.
Ron, JC NJ
Didn'trealize that the car max locations are only in certain states. The closest to NJ is VA and that's not going to work if i want themto price my car. It's a 97 Boxster/white/black interior and black top and the highest trade in i got is $13,000 so far. I 'm still going around to other dealers.
thanks again for the suggestion.
Ron, JC NJ
The lighter the color the better. Even a medium gray can absorb and retain a lot of heat. Black leather requires sheepskin covers to be bearable on a sunny day - unless you put the top up every time you get out of the car.
Light tan, ivory, very light gray and white interiors are cool enough to sit on unless it is a really extreme day.
I've decided to get the black with tan interior and tan top. For my taste and personality I think the red is "not me"... Now if I can just get a dealer to pay me off a higher price on my trade in boxster. I went to a dealer yesterday and got a quote of $13K for it and today got one for $15K, I guess I should have just gone for the deal but I'd like to try at least 2 more dealers and shop around my area before plunking down my hard earned money. Not like I'm in a big rush.
Later, and thanks guys.
Ron, JC NJ
I have had enough experience with (old) Mustangs to know that they are a pleasure to admire, but that is about as far as it goes...Ride and drive..you can keep it....
In fariness, he will do just fine on a trade or retail road...imagine trying to unload a three-month old $32k Caddy or Chevy..Holy drop-your-pants......
Happy driving to the Solara drivers and to those who are unhappy with their cars....ooopppsss that was a big mistake, should've test drove it more before your purchase.
I later found out there's a minor scratch on the back window glass on the soft top. I complained about it and Got the Customer Service person involved, he promised to have their glass guy fix it next week. I''ll keep you guys updated if they follow up on their promise. This car is from East Coast Mazda/Toyota in Woodridge, NJ.
Toyota Camry Solara: Prices Paid & Buying Experience
Thanks for any info.
http://www.autosportcatalog.com/index.cfm?fa=p&pid=1005&resetcar=on
ron
I am cognizant of the fact that someone within the 5% of the population that does not like this vehicle will offer a scathing rebuttal. However, as they must work for Chrysler it should not appear until tmw's workday! Seriously, do not hesitate and I hope you enjoy your purchase.
Enjoy!
That was a great message. I couldn't have said it better myself. I recently sold my black 2001 Ford Mustang and picked up my red 2006 Solara SE convertible. It is fantastic and I haven't stopped grinning. Months ago I was considering getting a Subaru Outback XT and I am so happy that I completely changed my mind and got a convertible. After it stopped raining, I put the top down and enjoyed the scenery. The ride is great and the cowl shake is not bad at all. I agree that the ride is just right...not too soft and not too hard. The seats are 10 times better than the Mustang seats. Everything is easy to use and the car is wonderful. I would personally recommend red because I think that it will be a little easier to keep clean than black and it looks great in red. My wife calls it the "babe mobile." I am looking forward to enjoying this great vehicle. Solara convertibles trump them all!!
1. Washing the car: Any bad experiences taking it through a gas station car wash or other auto car washes? I'm not a major car perfectionist but I don't want the top to wear out unnecessarily or to mess up any seals.
2. Parking with the top up or top down: I was surprised to see some recommendations to park with the top down. ("If someone is going to steal the radio it's better that they not tear up the top" seemed to be the logic). Curious what others typically do.
3. Blind spot mirror on right side: Has anyone put a blind spot mirror on the right side mirror to improve visibility? Did it help?
4. Wind Screen users: does it make a difference?
A final comment on the visibility. Some have said that the 2006 made the rear seat headrests smaller. If they did, it isn't that much of a difference I don't think. I test drove a 2005 and while I don't have anything empirical, it doesn't seem much better with the 06. As far as I'm concerned it's just part of the deal.
Oh, and I got it through a broker for $500 over invoice. Out the door was less than MSRP.
Thanks, I look forward to the feedback.
I'm lucky to live in Maine, not spoiled by high crime, gang violence and all that other big city crap YET! Here's my rule of thumb.. I leave my top down if I'm just going in somewhere where the car is going to be out of my sight for a few minutes, not more than 1/2 hour. I put everything out of sight in the car, lock the trunk handle, roll up the windows and lock the doors. This should be enough to keep the casual thief out of your vehicle. I put the top up for longer periods just to keep the elements out of my interior. I got a news flash for ya, NO car is safe if a thief is really determined! You ever seen a cop or tow truck driver use a slim jim? 2 seconds and your door is opened, don't think a thief can use one? Alarm? How many times you heard one bleating away in a parking lot? did you run over to see what was going on? Only takes a second to pop the hood and cut the battery lead! From there what is the thief's pleasure? I would load it on a flatbed and take it somewhere to really strip it.
A blind spot mirror is a good idea. You'll be able to see if anyone is lurking in the black hole created by the back area of your top when changing lanes. Might even be a good idea to put a little larger one on the passenger side. There are small rectangular ones that won't take up much of your regular mirror space. They aren't going to help you much when backing, they don't improve your rearward visibility, and you can't really judge distance of objects you can see in them. They're designed to eliminate the blind spot, and you aren't going to hit anything there when backing anyway. Just bear in mind, situational awareness is the only dependable way to ensure no bad things happen. DRIVE your car and pay attention to your driving, instead of doing the hundred other things people think are O.K. to do on the open road. If you are unsure of the area behind you when backing, get out and LOOK! Make sure your intended path of travel is clear. That's the best way to be totally sure it's safe.
I can't speak to the ease of the windscreen installation, mine was installed when I bought my car. It does make a tremendous difference while driving. It doesnt allow so much air to sweep in on the back of your neck and swirl around in the cockpit. This helps keep you warmer and cuts back on wind noise, making it much more pleasant with the top down. The netting extends over the back seat to the headrests, which keeps things in the back seat from blowing out of the car, althought they do still blow around. Plus it just looks cool! A worthwhile investment in my opinion!
Hope my answers help, happy driving!
Mark (me)