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Mazda3 Maintenance & Repair

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  • canmaz3sportcanmaz3sport Member Posts: 1
    Hello folks, not a MAzda3 owner...YET, waiting for lease to end on car now. Anyways, My dad bought the Mazda 6 in march of 03 and has had all the problems you mentionned. The brakes also faded very quick at first. Had to change all for pads after 6 months. And he also had various warning light problems. Check engine, ABS, TCS, airbag, you name it. They reprogrammed the ECU twice and then gave up and canged it. It seems that the problems are of the same nature, is this the standard of quality we are to expect from Mazda ?
  • gandrigogandrigo Member Posts: 87
    89 323, 99 protege, and now 04 3Sport GT. The new car has so far been flawless. I wouldn't hesitate to make the same purchase again.
  • guskimguskim Member Posts: 112
    James,
    I certainly haven't noticed any true roughness in the transmission's operation, but I try to be *very* gentle on the tranny in the first 2 miles of driving, especially in winter. I'm not sure where you live, but low winter temps are transmission killers.

    Tranny fluid doesn't flow very fast at start up, and unfortunately it takes MUCH longer to warm up tranny fluid at startup than it does motor oil. This is probably what you are experiencing. Try not to push so hard on the accelerator just after startup. When first engaging drive, let the tranny stay in first gear as long as it needs to. I also have been tempted to switch it to 2nd gear manually after 5-6 seconds, but it's better not to..the car will shift when the time is right.

    The only way I can think of alleviating this situation somewhat is to idle your car about 1.5 to 3 minutes in the cold weather before taking off *with* your AC, Defrost, & Fan all off, and with the heater in the "cold" position.

    This will warm up your engine faster,
    *which will in turn warm up the coolant faster,
    *which will in turn warm up your tranny fluid faster,
    *which will in turn make it will flow quicker -
    *which will in turn leader to easier initial shifting
    (but it's still going to be a little rough)

    Jeez, look at this rambling message (yikes)...
    *To summarize, warmup your car longer in cold temps, and be very easy on the accelerator for 2 miles.

    And Gandrigo, I completely agree with you. I don't regret this car purchase for a second. It would be nice to have a car without some 1st year assembly-design bugs, but they haven't affected me, and I just love how confidently it drives, how it's packed with features (safety & amenities), as well as how beautiful it is in terms of looks and price.
    I intend to keep this one a LONG time...hey maybe even my baby daughter will be able to drive it, and not be laughed at by her high-school friends...who knows, by 2020, the Mazda3 could be well on its way to being a retro-classic!
  • imontoyaimontoya Member Posts: 29
    I must say I am really enjoying this car.
    I can understand some technical glitches on a new model; which I haven't had yet (fingers crossed). There is so much computing power and sensors in modern cars it's amazing.
    I am slightly concerned about the rear brakes and some slight scoring I am seeing.
    Car has been great though: no rattles, plenty of power, no leaks, no wierd noises and it handles wonderfully. Great value too.
  • jandd1jandd1 Member Posts: 35
    I noticed an earlier post with regards to the Floor Mat holder that came with the 3. One of the test cars we drove came with it and we assumed it came with the car...however ours did not. As a result the mat tends to slide around.

    Before asking the dealer if this was supposed to be standard equipment I want to ask the board. And if it is something you buy from the dealer if it is worth it or is it as flimsy as as was mentioned before.
  • guskimguskim Member Posts: 112
    My car is a Mazda 3 Sport GT Hatchback with leather/sunroof/AC package, and it has the floor mat holder.

    Why not just call up a dealer in your area and ask if its standard equipment...
  • wongpreswongpres Member Posts: 422
    jandd1:

    All Canadian-spec Mazda3's come with this driver's floor mat holder. The factory places it in the trunk (along with the license plate holders, antenna, and other stuff), and is the dealer's responsibility to install it during PDI (or PDE as Mazda Canada likes to call it).

    If you have the Mazda3 all-weather floormats (i.e. the rubber ones), then forget about this hook because the hole on these rubber floormats don't match the location of the hook.

    So definitely ask your dealer where your holder is. Speaking of which, which dealer did you get your car from, because my dealer is also in west Toronto (Westowne), so I was wondering if it was them.
  • waiting4thebuswaiting4thebus Member Posts: 14
    Hey all,

    In the early posts in this discussion board there was a lot of mention of excessive rear brake rotor wear and dust. PSYMN, mentioned that they had to replace the rear rotors and pads as they were already worn down after only 750 miles.

    I took a closer look at my car today and noticed that there is a build up of dust on my rear rims (when compared to my front). If anyone can provide any input as to the proper way to inspect brake rotors, this would be appreciated.

    Has anyone else had an issue with their rear brake rotor with regards to abnormal wearing and dust? Has anyone already brought their Mazda3 into their dealership for inspection (and repair if necessary)?

    I am probably going to give Mazda Canada a call tomorrow to see if this is becoming an issue. Also I will probably bring the car in this week so that they can perform a quick inspection.

    I’ll keep the board posted.

    GT Sport
    Titanium
  • ohsoribbyohsoribby Member Posts: 13
    *sigh after reading the posts here about the CEL and air bag light coming on I was hoping my car wouldnt have these issues but alas .. it does. Can someone who had this problem (specifically the air bag light) give me an estimate as to how long it should take the service dept to fix? Anyone in the boston area even own a hatch? I've seen two sedans but I havent seen another fellow hatch out on the roads! If you see one on the road that tends to stall alot .. that would be me!
  • x_typer_pilotx_typer_pilot Member Posts: 82
    I have this issue too. Apparently, it's a faulty air bag sensor. The part should take anywhere from a couple of days to 2 weeks from the time they order it to when it arrives at the dealer. The service itself should take about an hour - from what my dealer told me. I'm still waiting for the part to come in, it's been about a week now.
  • 3owner3owner Member Posts: 29
    I too have fallen to the Air bag sensor bug. I wish I had been on the site before I took it in. That way when the dumbfounded service tech told me of the problem I would have had some background info. Awaiting part for sensor change.

    The first snowstorm with the Mazda3 provided me with a huge surprise. When I went to open the trunk to get my snowbrush I filled my trunk with a foot of snow. I now leave the brush in the back seat. The gap is very large between the window and trunk, many times this freezes over and I spend time chipping away to access the trunk. I wish there was something to hold onto when opening the trunk, the rear has a great sleek look, but now I'm haunted by my first question to my salesman ... does it have a remote trunk release on its key? No was the answer .... I WISH IT DID! Anyone else find this a major nuisance?
  • ohsoribbyohsoribby Member Posts: 13
    Does your light stay on or does it go away after a certain amount of time? My light turns on when i start the car, but goes away after 30 seconds to a minute. Sometimes it doesnt come on at all. Usually the colder it is outside the longer the light will stay on.
  • dmg196dmg196 Member Posts: 6
    Have a Mazda 3 Hatchback my problem is on initial start must crank multiply times (I am not pressing on gas) have taken it to service dept were first time they could not fix and second time replaced battery. Still having problem. Car runs great when running and starting problem does not exist after it is warmed up. Anyone else having this problem.
  • lmp180psulmp180psu Member Posts: 399
    On another Mazda3 enthusiast board I follow, there have been complaints about this problem especially from people in Canada where it is normally colder than most U.S. areas. A couple of people have had/waiting to have their fuel pump replaced because the pressure in the pump was too low to supply the engine with sufficient gas. I can't tell you the website here, but if you want to know which website I follow, I can email you the address.
  • jandd1jandd1 Member Posts: 35
    It was supposed to be there - in fact it came in the mat bag, but they forgot to install it! I got one today

    wongpres - It is Westown, the owner is a hands on guy, his kids work there too. Been super to deal with.

    Note: The carpet ramp where you rest your left foot is unprotected. My other cars have always has a rubber/plastic piece on top of the carpet as this area is always being used and tends to whereout quickly.

    We bought generic winter mats yesterday and cut them so a flap covers the foot rest. I am not sure how I will protect it in the summer. Maybe an iron on patch?
  • wongpreswongpres Member Posts: 422
    Thanks for the info. I asked if it was Westowne because I saw in your post on the buying experiences board that your salesguy was bad. So how was your overall experience with this dealer, sales bad (unless dealing with owner)? And what are your impressions of their service given that they forgot to put in the hook?

    My salesguy was the owner's son and my experiences have been ok so far. My Mazda3 order was submitted to corporate about a month ago with April delivery.

    Regarding mats, I'm looking into Weathertech mats. Extremely expensive but the highest quality out there (but still doesn't protect the left footrest).
  • 1davao1davao Member Posts: 114
    Try a different gas station preferably a new one since their gas storage tanks are new. Water can infiltrate an old gasoline station storage tank and get into your car's tank. Water can cause starting problems too.

    1davao
  • x_typer_pilotx_typer_pilot Member Posts: 82
    The light comes on for a bit whenever you start your car. It does so for two reasons, one to show you that the the airbag system engages, and the second is to show you that the light actually works. If it turns off after awhile, there should be no problem. Mine stays on all the time now - it used to turn off after first lighting up when I started the car.
  • ohsoribbyohsoribby Member Posts: 13
    Thanks for the info x_typer .. unfortunately the light is staying on longer and longer everytime i start the car .. hopefully it will just go away ..
  • 3owner3owner Member Posts: 29
    I wouldn't count on the light going away completley unless you get it fixed. Mine stayed on for a few days ... then went off, then went on the next day for a few days ... its now been turned off by the dealer awaiting a new sensor. So the air bag will not deploy in an accident until replaced.
    I removed my fabric car mats the day after I got my car and put in rubber mats ..... the left foot however is very annoying. I had a rubber pad in my last vehicle. I don't know about Ironing something on? I was thinking of lining the whole foot area with plastic until the salt season ends.
  • stokkesstokkes Member Posts: 81
    Unlikely it will go away.

    As I first reported this problem a few weeks ago, I have since gotten my parts. The way it is supposed to function is this: You start your car, the light should go off almost automatically (if not 1-2 seconds later). If it's going off a minute later or quite a while later, there is definitely a problem with the sensor.

    Now, what I was told at the dealer is that due to the sensor being faulty, it was disabling the air bag system altogether (even though my light was sometimes off). I would definitely get this checked because you want to make sure your airbag system is functioning problem and not disabled in case (heaven forbid) you would need it.

    I'm glad to say that after this problem was fixed, everything seems to be working properly. Car runs beautifully, and I'm glad I got this fixed right now. Heck, my dealer even gave me my first 8000km maintenance for free because I had to bring my car in for service so quickly after buying it.

    -- stokkes
  • ohsoribbyohsoribby Member Posts: 13
    thank you very much for the info .. im just worried that when i bring it into the service dept if the light doesnt come up they are just going to assume everything is fine. I'll bring it in to the shop on saturday and i'll let you know what they say. Thanks again!
  • stokkesstokkes Member Posts: 81
    When I was having the problem, the day I brought it into the dealer, the light never came on. They could however to some tests and deduce that the sensor needed to be replaced.

    -- stokkes
  • dmg196dmg196 Member Posts: 6
    thanks for the feed back. I did find that website and called dealer who seemed interested about it. It is a shame that apparently I can get on the internet and find out what is going on within a few minutes and they are totally in the dark. Also have been experiencing the rear rotor problem with the grooves which they also said they will look at. Starting to become frustrated in my purchase of this vehicle. Been to service more in 1500 miles than my Toyota which ended up with 140,000 when I traded it in.
  • stokkesstokkes Member Posts: 81
    Seeing as this is the first year model, I'd expect some growing pains. Once the kinks are ironed out, I'm looking forward to a long life for my new 3.
  • x_typer_pilotx_typer_pilot Member Posts: 82
    I just got a call from my Mazda dealer...

    They informed me that the airbag sensor part should arrive sometime next week. In the meantime, they said that 'they' were not comfortable with me driving the car since the airbag would not deploy in case of an accident. They also offered to obtain a free car rental for me until the part arrives and the problem has been fixed.

    Now, I have driven cars in the past that did not have airbags to begin with, and I ALWAYS wear my seatbelt anyway. So, I'm not sure whether or not I'll take them up on their offer. However, just the fact that they have gone the extra mile here, without me even making a peep is simply amazing customer service. If they can continue to keep this sort of customer relations up, I'll be buying 2 more Mazda's over the next several years to replace my current other vehicles.
  • x_typer_pilotx_typer_pilot Member Posts: 82
    My dealer is Avante Mazda in Richmond Hill.

    They have two locations - one on Yonge Street just south of Steeles, the other is also on Yonge Street just north of Major Mackenzie. I go to the second one, although the customer service should be equal at both since they are both owned by the same party.
  • nne3jxcnne3jxc Member Posts: 134
    You shouldn't have any problems getting the air bag problem fixed. I live not far from you in southern NH, My dealer (Talarico in Manchester, NH.) diagnosed the problem inside of an hour and got the new sensor the next day. They didn't want me to drive my car, and offered me a loaner. They had my 3s for less than 24 hours total.
    See my post #92 for more detail.

    Jim
  • rogerb7rogerb7 Member Posts: 13
    I have a M3 with 200 miles and already there is brake dust and shallow grooves starting to form on rear brakes. Airbag light also staying on longer, up to five seconds or so.

    Stopped at our dealer today in northern VA and service rep said this was first he had heard of either of these problems.

    My experience is, unless there is a TSB issued, they don't seem that concerned about looking into a problem.

    Anyone know of Mazda issuing TSB yet?
  • mst3kguymst3kguy Member Posts: 10
    Hi there,

    Am considering purchasing an M3 (no, not _that_ M3). Currently own a '94 Protege, before that had an '85 RX-7. I remember when I was researching for the purchase of the Protege, Consumer Reports or another consumer magazine recommended the Mazdas, but to avoid the manual tranny, I think more having to do with clutch probs than actual tranny probs.

    Does anyone know if Mazda has improved their reputation in this regard?

    Thanks!
  • bluong1bluong1 Member Posts: 1,927
    Does anyone know if Mazda has improved their reputation in this regard?

    No they don't improve their reputation. They just improved the reliability of their products, and in all regards but a painting problem for the N/A spec Mazda6.

    Currently, Mazda3 common problems are:

    - CEL issue (calibration problem, fixed),
    - airbag sensor problem (crack because too tightly fasten at the factory, fixed),
    - brake rotors wear strangely (unresolved issue).

    Bruno
  • dmg196dmg196 Member Posts: 6
    Have my mazda 3 in service for the 3rd time for starting problem they are finally replacing fuel pump. They claim there are no TSB for vehicle but on top of my paper work there is a notation each time to check brakes, tires. I have found on other websites where lots of people are having problems with rear brakes and fuel pump. Service Advisor claims Mazda says there is no problems with these items. Seems amazing so many people are having the exact same problem. Totally pissed at Mazda Service department would never recommend them to anyone.
  • z71billz71bill Member Posts: 1,986
    Please explain in some detail what you mean by hard starting. Does it take 2 - 4- 10 seconds of starter cranking before the engine starts?

    My Mazda3 takes a little more than a second before it starts, this is with a cold, warm or hot engine it does not make any difference.

    It seems to me this is slightly longer (cranking time) than the V8's I normally drive. But I don't see it as a problem.
  • dmg196dmg196 Member Posts: 6
    I live in Florida and there is minimal or no weather below 40 degrees at my local. I was experiencing the same start problem. Mazda 3 should start with turn of key not multiple tries. Found on numerous other websites the problem was the fuel pump. After 3 times to dealer they are finally replacing fuel pump(after replacing battery and telling me they had no clue). By the large numbers of people complaining of same problem there is no way Mazda does not know.Tell your service guy to check your fuel pressure because it apparently drops to low on initial start to crank over right away. I am presently waiting on my mazda and driving a loaner car.
  • ranga2ranga2 Member Posts: 3
    Discovered a huge river of coolant underneath my Mazda 3 Hatch (500 miles) yesterday. It must have leaked overnight. I had driven it about 20 miles or so the previous evening. Since the car is new I constantly check the gauges for anything abnormal and the temperature seemed fine to me. I checked the coolant reservoir and found the level below minimum so quite a bit of fluid was on the floor.

    Called Mazda roadside assistance and they dispatched a truck promptly and towed it away to the dealership. (Important: Mazda will tow to the closest dealership only)

    Anyway, they looked at it for 2 days and test drove it and found no problem.

    I am thinking that they fixed something but are just not saying what. Maybe something as simple as a loose hose connection or a leaking hose.

    Anyway I drove it after getting it from the dealership for about 40 miles and did not find anything this morning. So keeping my fingers crossed.

    But jeez 500 miles. Just my luck
  • rogerb7rogerb7 Member Posts: 13
    I e-mailed Mazda about the brake problems and airbag light. Here's a cut and paste:

    "If there are ever any concerns that the dealership is having difficulty with repairing at this time (such as you suggested), be assured that EVERY Mazda dealership will directly contact their Quality Assurance resources immediately. Each Mazda dealership has access to Mazda's Quality Assurance Department via a technical hotline. This is offered to each dealership should they need assistance from Mazda with diagnosing or repairing a Mazda vehicle."

    The problem is, my dealer, a large one in Va, claims the brake dust and rotor grooving is normal. They don't see any reason to contact Mazda about it.

    When you think about it, if all dealers have that attitude, Mazda won't bother with issuing a TSB although I'm sure they monitor this and other forums, where there are plenty of posts about brake and airbag problems.
  • justinjustin Member Posts: 1,918
    i had the same problem you had, on my 96 Protege that i bought brand new. only had a few hundred miles, and it overheated. turns out the factory or dealer didn't connect one little fingertip sized metal clamp to something, but it made my car smell AWFUL inside. that car was built in Japan too! i also had the infamous clutch issues with that car, and my 93 323. Mazda will get it together soon, they just always seem to have growing pains for a year or so on new release cars....

    all of the sudden i am seeing 3's all over the place here in DC/NoVA. i think Mazda is doing some marketing around here. i also keep seeing the same blue 6 HATCHback....

    anyway, the 3 sedan looks great in real life. the 3 hatch would look as good, if they would take off the ground effects. less is more! my opinion.
  • payopayo Member Posts: 2
    I purchased my 3 a week or two ago and for the most part I believe that it is a good riding automobile. However, if I hit a bump in the road with my front driver side tire I feel a knock coming from under my feet. If I hit a bump with both front wheels evenly I don't hear or feel this. I also don't hear it when I hit bumps at higher speeds (50mph or more). I have recently gotten out of a full sized expedition and thought that it might take some getting accustomed to the low profile tires or the sport suspension but I think it is more than that. I did take it into the dealership and as usual they found nothing. I was sort of expecting a motor mount or suspension problem. Can anyone make any suggestions?
  • pile_onpile_on Member Posts: 2
    My Mazda 3 is 2 months 'new' and has already gone into the shop twice. The latest was the airbag light. They told me that it was the sensor and it would need to be replaced. However, I should drive my car as usual but the airbag might not deploy. It could take up to 6 weeks to get a new sensor.

    I bought this car cause my old one was in the shop constantly, which was understandable because it was 10 years old. I wouldn't have ever thought my new Mazda 3 would have to go into the shop 3 times in the first 3 months.

    The Mazda 3 is a huge disappointment, as is my dealership that recommends I drive a car with no airbag!

    And that's my vent.
  • x_typer_pilotx_typer_pilot Member Posts: 82
    I don't really know why you had to bring your 3 in for service the other two times, but the AB sensor is really a little detail. Apparently, they were screwed in too tightly at the factory and if they are exposed to enough cold, they crack. No big deal. My dealership (near Toronto) offered me a rental at no charge in the meantime and have been very accomodating. To say that the 3 is a "huge dissapointment", in my view is a huge exaggeration.

    You should have known going in and purchasing a car in it's first year - no, it's first couple of months - of availability, that there might be some hiccups to deal with. So far, it's the only widespread hiccup we've had to deal with on this car - hopefully the only one. Personally, I'm not at all disappointed (even though I'm dealing with the same issue). In fact, I even turned down the offer of a free rental vehicle. Gee, do I drive a Cavalier with a working airbag system or my 3 without the airbag system...No brainer.

    I can see that you wouldn't be happy about it and you needed to vent, but I think you went a little too far.
  • 3owner3owner Member Posts: 29
    I totally agree with X_typer_pilot, the airbag sensor is not a big deal. I don't know why you had to bring it in on the other occasions but again its a 1st year model, there will be some hiccups ... if the airbag is the worst of our Mazda3 problems, thats pretty insignificant (I have heard the CEL, and Rear Rotor problems as well) All in all your driving a pretty sweet car at a pretty remarkable price. As for the dealership providing you with a rental car because the airbag may not deploy would be for a dealership to go way out of there way (I commend the dealerships who offered) its not really a big deal considering how many cars out on the road do not have any at all. I'm sure the problem will be corrected far earlier than the projected time and you'll once again have a smile on your face while driving down the street (hopefully :o) )
  • nne3jxcnne3jxc Member Posts: 134
    Pile_on,
    In your defense, I don't think you were too harsh. You just spent around 20k dollars and have a car that you are dissapointed with. You are entitled to be disgruntled -- it was your hard-earned money!
    I have had both the CEL problem and the Airbag Light problem inside of 1000 miles and am a little dissapointed myself. Of the 15 or so cars I've owned, the only other brand new car I ever bought was a (close your eyes, Petpad...) 1987 Ford Mustang GT and which was also the first year of a major redesign. It was in the shop exactly once in the 4 years and 65,000 miles I owned it. So, my Mazda is considerably worse. (Also, for what it's worth, My wife's 2003 Nissan Pathfinder has never been in the shop.)
    Anyway, I think it is inexcusable for your dealership to have not offered you a loaner -- mine did. And even more amazing is that they say it will take 6 weeks to get the new sensor. My dealer got one inside of 24 hours.
    My 3s is a really great car and I do expect it to get better once the bugs are worked out. I am more dissapointed with Mazda's cold-weather testing than with the car itself.
    And Pile_on, I would suggest that you find another dealer -- one that is willing to work with you not just brush you off.
  • dmg196dmg196 Member Posts: 6
    Brought my Mazda 3 back in for 4th try to correct same start problem they put in new fuel pump and put back on gas tank with bad gasket or o-ring. Tank leaks all over. Now they cannot locate part to fix. They have had car all week and still can not tell me when I will receive it back. Are others experiencing the same crappy, useless service from there Mazda dealer or is this an isolated incident. Sales dept was great, too bad service center sucks will never buy another Mazda due to this fact or recommend one to anyone I know. Yes I have owned Toyotas, Dodges, Chevys, Jeeps and GMC vehicles and never experienced this level of useless service. As far as loaner car it is included in your warranty when you have work done.I reccommened complaining to Mazda headquarters.
  • stokkesstokkes Member Posts: 81
    Sorry to hear that..

    However, so far, in the two months that I've owned my 3, I've had it at the dealer a few times to fix some parts (broken sensor, etc). Each time they were extremely courteous and even gave me a free oil change and free 8000km maintenance because my car was in the shop so early. I have nothing but praise for my dealership as they have gone the lengths to make me happy. Heck, they even rented a car for me for 2 hours so i could drive my girlfriend to work.

    For me, I have no problems recommending mazda, and I believe that if you have a good relationship with your dealer that good things will come of it. Unfortunately, not all dealers are good, and it's important to try and find the good ones. :)

    -- stokkes
  • x_typer_pilotx_typer_pilot Member Posts: 82
    I agree with you. My dealer is the same.

    Are we allowed to mention dealer names in here?

    If so, maybe those of us blessed with good dealers should let everyone else in on who they are?
  • pile_onpile_on Member Posts: 2
    I would be very interested to know the name of these dealerships (and service departments) that go beyond the call of duty. Or perhaps just those that meet it.

    Thanks for you help!
  • wongpreswongpres Member Posts: 422
    Just name the dealer. I'm in Toronto and I'm looking for a good Mazda dealership for service.
  • roger341roger341 Member Posts: 59
    I noticed today after getting home that the rear rotors were extremely hot to the touch, whereas the front ones were just warm.

    The fact that the brake dust is much worse on the rear is probably due to the fact that most of the braking force is applied to the rear rotors.

    Does anyone know if this is per design? At this rate the rear pads will wear out quickly, as will the rotors. I see no point in having the dealer put new pads on or replacing the rotors, the same problem will just occur again.

    At least after 400 miles, the scraping noise while stopping seems to be going away.
  • iqmawiqmaw Member Posts: 4
    I would like to find out if harrison888 (Msg #82) got a resolution to the knocking noise at the rear of his/her Mazda3 hatch. I seem to have the same problem. My dealership has examined the car on 3 seperate occasions with no resolution. Minor bumps on the road cause a rattling/knocking noise as if something is loose coming from the trunk area. Extremely annoying :(
  • mbennett674mbennett674 Member Posts: 66
    most of the braking force should be applied to the front tires as these are the tires where all the car weight is being shifted during breaking. The reason that the rear brakes are getting hotter is probably because they aren't vented and overall - there may be an issue with the 3's brakes as many people have been reporting premature wear.
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