Mazda3 Maintenance & Repair

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  • everfebeverfeb Member Posts: 115
    There is a TSB-Bulletin 09-025/04...Paint damage-

    iron particles/industrial fallout/acid rain...last issued 06/24/2004. It's the most recent TSB.

    "zetaminer" take your 3 to your dealer for an inspection. Get on record ASAP about paint problem.

    everfeb
  • jandd1jandd1 Member Posts: 35
    The brakes fall into the 20k 1 year warranty.
  • z71billz71bill Member Posts: 1,986
    Mazda has known about this brake issue for well over a year. I have seen several posts from people with late model 2004s and 2005s that say they have no rear brake grinding - this makes me think Mazda does in fact know how to solve the problem - because they did!

     

    The issue is they don't want to pay for the repairs / replacement of rear brakes - so they are stalling.

     

    This is the same thing they did with the defective AC issue. Finally they came out with a cheap worthless defuser - that IMO does nothing to solve the problem.
  • m3driverm3driver Member Posts: 1
    I've got the same problem as this as well.

     

    Sounds fine at speed but over the small nasty road humps or pot-holes/drains etc. it sounds like a nasty creak coming from the front right hand side of the car. Mazda have already replaced the strut and swaybar link but the noise persists. They're replacing the rubber bushings next week - hopefully that will fix it.

     

    Fingers crossed ;)

     

    m3driver
  • z71billz71bill Member Posts: 1,986
    Please post if they find what the problem is -
  • 68mpolo68mpolo Member Posts: 21
    I've had the mazda3 for a couple of weeks already after replacement of the bushings. So far so good. I do make sure that I drive more slowly over speedbumps (I guess that's what they're for, lol).

     

    Hope your dealer fixes the problem.
  • conallconall Member Posts: 91
    Does anyone else have a manual transmission? When downshifting from 5th to 4th do you sometimes end up grinding the reverse gear when you miss? In the VW's I had, this was near impossible, since you had to push down on the shifter to get into reverse.
  • turbyturby Member Posts: 4
    Brand new 2005 Mazda3s, manual transmission. I'm getting an annoying "accelerate / decellerate" when using cruise contol. This rocking motion happens about every second, and is most noticable when going up or down small inclines.

     

    My dealer states that "they all operate like this". Has anyone else found this problem? Found a solution?
  • modockmodock Member Posts: 55
    I find that the same thing happens. I believe that it is due to the car trying to maintain the speed that you set.

     

    Think about it. If you were driving without the cruse on and you came to one of these small decline. If you

    A) keep your foot on the gas by the time you got to the bottom of the hill you would be going faster than at the top.

    B) take your foot off the gas you would be going slower than you were at the top of the decline.

     

    The cruise is just more sensitive than you are because you would not notice the relatively small (5 to 7 MPH) increase or decrease in speed when it is associated with the hill. The cruise on the other had does.

     

    My suggestion is that this is a fun car to drive, so drive it. Don't use the cruise control.

     

    Corey
  • lisab1lisab1 Member Posts: 1
    I've lost my manual. Is this in the RPM read out on the left hand side down near the bottom... looks like a transmission? Anyone else had similar symptoms?
  • backybacky Member Posts: 18,949
    Strange, I've never noticed a "rocking motion happen[ing] about every second, and is most noticable when going up or down small inclines" on any car I've ever driven with cruise--and I've driven quite a few over the years. If it were my car I'd take it into the dealer to be checked--this doesn't seem like normal behavior for cruise control.
  • waygrabowwaygrabow Member Posts: 214
    I have a Mazda3S MT and use the cruise control on the highway when traffic isn't too heavy. Of course the vehicle speed varies within a 4-5mph range, but, no, I have never experienced a "rocking motion [which] happens about every second". If this is an accurate description, I can assure you that they do not all operate like this.
  • z71billz71bill Member Posts: 1,986
    I have an automatic Mazda3 S - but I can't understand why the system would be any different - although the gearing is. Think the 5 speed manual has a higher (numerically lower) final drive ratio. Does the cruise control do the same thing while in 4th gear - at 60-65 MPH? I would give this a try and see if it makes any difference. I am not saying just keep it in 4th gear forever - but just to see if the car will maintain speed if it is in a lower gear. My guess is it will not.

     

    I can put the cruise on at any speed above 50 MPH and it hold it within 1/2 of a MPH in all conditions except a large hill.

     

    If I go up / down a hill the speed does not change by more than 1 MPH - this is the best cruise control I have ever had.

     

    If your speed changes by 5-7 MPH then your cruise is not only defective - but worthless.

     

    I would trade the good cruise control in my Mazda3 for an AC system that works.
  • chuck hchuck h Member Posts: 2
    I know that the Mazda3 has electrohydraulic power steering (EHPS), which typically makes a little bit of noise (a slight whine). My 2004 model year car was very quiet when delivered in September, 2004. But it has become noticeably noisy after 5 months and 5,000 miles. It is quite annoying. I received the standard reply from the dealer: "Yes, it is noisy, but that's normal." Fortunately, Ohio has a "lemon law," so if I cannot get it fixed or replaced I will be pursuing that action. Does anyone know of a Technical Service Bulletin that has been issued about the EHPS? Has anyone had a recent steering noise problem that was resolved (either under warranty or as a "policy adjustment")??
  • cticti Member Posts: 131
    My car has that lurching feel to it as well with the cruise. It seems the car has a slavish devotion to maintaining speed.

     

    I bought the car four days ago and used the cruise to drive 60 mph on a back highway. The road ahs gentle hills and the car would lurch slightly and the tach would flutter briefly going downhill. I just figured it was the car trying real hard to maintain speed.

     

    I don't doubt that it is 'typical'. Not desirable but at least normal.

     

    Jason
  • backybacky Member Posts: 18,949
    But does yours lurch every few seconds as the other owner reported? THAT doesn't sound normal.
  • cticti Member Posts: 131
    I only noticed it lurching going downhill. The hills I was on were gradual so it didn't need many adjustments to slow down.

     

    I would guess the lurching would be quite pronounced on a steeper decline. Are you guys noticing that? Or are you guys experiencing lurching on perfectly flat ground?

     

    My experience with cruise control is minimal. My previous car didn't have it. The one before that, a 1986 Taurus, had weak cruise control that had difficulty maintaining speed. On the other hand, it didn't lurch because it wasn't trying very hard to maintain speed.

     

    I DID rent a Pontiac Grand Am in December that had cruise. The controls were an ugly looking afterthought, but it worked wonderfully. That OHV engine was quite impressive.

     

    Jason
  • eoghan1eoghan1 Member Posts: 58
    My 2004 3s hatch is the first manual shift car I have had with cruise control. I found the cruise control to hold speed very close to the setting and the only thing which seemed odd was the way it would slow the car when going down hill. We assumed that was a function of the manual shift not having the slippage an automatic would have.
    We experienced no lurching or other irregularities.
  • eoghan1eoghan1 Member Posts: 58
    I have not had you problem going from 5th to 4th but have had some going from first to second. It seems I must be careful to ensure I have fully engaged second gear before I engage the clutch or I will grind second gear. Seems to me the shift from first to second is a bit "notchy" on many manual transmissions. Going from 5th to 4th you need to relax pressure on the shifter and let it spring into neutral before dropping it into 4th. It is possible the spring which does this is weak in your transmission.
  • chuck hchuck h Member Posts: 2
    Yesterday I found on the NHTSA (National Highway Traffic Safety Administration) website the following: Technical Service Bulletin #0600204, NHTSA item #10009428, issued July 21, 2004 for 2004MY Mazda3 vehicles: for component "steering:hydraulic power assist system" a summary description of: "abnormal whine noise of steering system." I will use this information the next time that I take my car into the dealer to fix this problem.
  • neomonkeyneomonkey Member Posts: 32
    So I am debating with myself here on whether or not to get 3M. Now we've all heard that Mazda paints are not that great anymore to resisting chips because of the new environmental paint process.

    Application of the 3M would help but is it really necessary and is it worth the cost? Personally I would love to keep my 3 brand spanking new for 5 years etc. but I have to realise that its a car. Cars will age, depreciate and eventually lose their showroom lustre. From a personal standpoint I won't deny that fact. If your hood is not chipped in 2 years then your door might get the ding or scratch from a shopping cart. 3M to cover the bumper and hood etc will cost about $400-$1000 depending on which shop I go to. Money that could be spent somewhere else. I am prepared to handle the cosmetic changes when I get the chips and would maybe use Langka + touch up paint as it seems to work. Much more cost effective IMO.

    I walk by two 3s every morning on the way to work, and their hoods and bumpers are perfectly fine with no chips.

    As well, the 3M is visible when it gets dusty, and the hood is a different shade of color when you look at it. And what affect will it have on the paint underneath when it is left on for 5 years? And what happens if you 3M film is penetrated somehow, you'd have to shell out more $ to get it redone. !So I'm not all thrilled about that. Although, it's better than your standard leather black car bra.

    But I am still on the fence on this, so I do need your input on the subject.
    Is it worth the money? Or should I use the money towards something else and accept the fact that my car depreciates day by day?
  • turbyturby Member Posts: 4
    Did the "slowing" feel like the car would slow down for 1 second, then coast for one second, then slow down?
  • turbyturby Member Posts: 4
    Corey,

    With my common 6-8 hour trips, the cruise control does some in handy.

    Did you report the problem to your dealer? (I'm trying to get anyone who has this problem to report it, so that maybe Mazda will issue a fix so that I can truly enjoy this car.)
  • turbyturby Member Posts: 4
    Jason,

    Did you report this problem to the dealer? If not, would you please do so?

    If enough of us notice it, then perhaps Mazda might fix this annoying glitch.

    Thanks,
    Tim
  • roger341roger341 Member Posts: 59
    I've posted this problem before, but it hasn't happened in almost a year until today.

    The pattern is always the same. With engine off just for a few minutes, it won't re-start. No cranking noise, nothing, just dead as if the battery is disconnected.

    The only way to get car started is to wait about five minutes, remove key from keyring, and reinsert it. Then it starts.

    Dealer needs to see it happen but of course with only an average of 2 or 3 instances per year, it never happens when in for service.

    Any clues?
  • z71billz71bill Member Posts: 1,986
    IMO the 3m film is very noticeable on a dark colored vehicle - and I think it looks horrible. It is not as obvious on lighter colors like silver - but still does not look great.

    I would not pay $25 to have someone put this junk on my car -but for $400 - $1,000 you can get your car painted. Earl Sheib has $300 specials at least 2 X per year. Of course if you have body damage it will cost more - but 3M film doesn't protect against that.

    If I had to drive 20 miles everyday on a gravel road I still would not get plastic film on my car. It could actually lower the resale value - everyone expects a car with 60+K miles to have chips in the paint.

    Save your money and spend it on something worthwhile like lotto tickets or Enron stock.
  • neomonkeyneomonkey Member Posts: 32
    sorry originally posted this in problems...

    So I am debating with myself here on whether or not to get 3M. Now we've all heard that Mazda paints are not that great anymore to resisting chips because of the new environmental paint process.

    Application of the 3M would help but is it really necessary and is it worth the cost? Personally I would love to keep my 3 brand spanking new for 5 years etc. but I have to realise that its a car. Cars will age, depreciate and eventually lose their showroom lustre. From a personal standpoint I won't deny that fact. If your hood is not chipped in 2 years then your door might get the ding or scratch from a shopping cart. 3M to cover the bumper and hood etc will cost about $400-$1000 depending on which shop I go to. Money that could be spent somewhere else. I am prepared to handle the cosmetic changes when I get the chips and would maybe use Langka + touch up paint as it seems to work. Much more cost effective IMO.

    I walk by two 3s every morning on the way to work, and their hoods and bumpers are perfectly fine with no chips.

    As well, the 3M is visible when it gets dusty, and the hood is a different shade of color when you look at it. And what affect will it have on the paint underneath when it is left on for 5 years? And what happens if you 3M film is penetrated somehow, you'd have to shell out more $ to get it redone. !So I'm not all thrilled about that. Although, it's better than your standard leather black car bra.

    But I am still on the fence on this, so I do need your input on the subject.
    Is it worth the money? Or should I use the money towards something else and accept the fact that my car depreciates day by day?
  • neomonkeyneomonkey Member Posts: 32
    Thanks for your input. I share the ame sentiments on teh way 3M looks on a car. I'm not entirely crazy about applying it. I'll let teh car age gracefully..>!
  • waygrabowwaygrabow Member Posts: 214
    We had the clear coating put on our Mz3 front end, but it cost less than $200. Then we got a crack in the windshield from a rock, so now I have the clear protective coating on the new windshield edges also.
  • modockmodock Member Posts: 55
    No I did not report it as what I felt was just the car trying to keep close to the speed that I set. I had a 240SX that did the same thing if you were on the right downhill slope. I think that it is just normal. I can duplicate it buy just stepping on and letting off the gas on the same type of hill.

    Looking back at your post you seem to have a little different situation. Is what I described what you were feeling? The on and off the gas, or is it something else?

    In an automatic you will almost never have this situation as the decellaration from engine compression is not as effective as in a manual.

    Corey
  • everfebeverfeb Member Posts: 115
    Just wondering if anyone WAS getting poor gas mileage...went to a dealer about it...and the dealer was actually able to do something, anything to your 3 to improve your mileage???
    Or has a dealer tried to improve your mileage but not been successful. Could you let us know please what was done to improve your mileage or what was tried but didn't work?

    In my case I had that "long crank time" problem. Dealer replaced my fuel pump and was hopeful that new fuel pump might improve my mileage. It didn't.
    Thanks.
    everfeb
  • eoghan1eoghan1 Member Posts: 58
    Sorry for the delay getting back, we've been out of town. Best I can recall the slowing down was smooth, consistent but noticeable. None of the on and off you describe. We haven't used it for a while as the car is usually used for short trips.
  • big_guybig_guy Member Posts: 372
    I noticed a similar "surging" with cruise control in a rented Nissan Altima that I had for a couple of days. The car was an automatic and the cruise control worked fine ... unless you were going down a slight decline. Then the cruise control would surge occasionally while going down hill. Once you were on the flat or going uphill it worked fine. Perhaps it is a software thing that could be easily remedied.
  • m1miatam1miata Member Posts: 4,551
    I am wondering if the air conditioning problems, as in little cooling effect, are still present in the 2005 model year Mazda3 's. Still a problem?
  • amg1040amg1040 Member Posts: 3
    Where can I find mudguards/splash shields for a Mazda 3s with the side sill ext (sport package)??
  • kalinutkalinut Member Posts: 1
    I had a similar issue with a volkswagen. It sounds like the engine is not recognizing the key. The 5 minute delay may be a built-in 'feature'; using the wrong key trips the security mechanism which prevents all attempts to start the car until a timeout period expires. Removing the key from the keyring sounds significant as well. There should be a dark plastic (probably dark red) 'window' next to the ignition. I think this is how the key is 'read' when inserted in the ignition. Some manufacturer user manuals warn you to make sure the keyring doesnt block the port or the car wont start. You would think the engine trouble codes would record the problem, but at least in the case of VW, once the car is successfully started with a recognized key the 'invalid key' trouble codes would get purged from memory.
  • departure1departure1 Member Posts: 1
    Hi Chuck,

    I just bought a 2005 Mazda3 5 door. I too have the same power steering noise which is very annoying! I'm having trouble finding the information you found on the NHTSA. Can you please link them to me. Also, did you take your car to the dealer yet to address the problem?

    I have 500 miles currently on my car and will take it to the dealer for the 1000 mile oil change and check up. I will address this problem to them and would like to have as much information as possible in hand.

    Thanks,
    Rich
  • cticti Member Posts: 131
    My car is an automatic. I noticed the lurching with the cruise set at 60. Not with it set at 75.

    Staring at the tach, it looks like the car is letting up too generously on the throttle because the RPMs would drop 500 or so for a split second. Perhaps going 75, the car doesn't have to adjust as much with the RPMs.

    The reverse is also true. If you have an automatic and the car is going 5 mph below your cruise setting when you hit "resume", the car will downshift to third and accelerate quickly up to your cruise speed.

    Jason
  • m1miatam1miata Member Posts: 4,551
    Ouch, maybe I should look for a lower tech car to buy. Problems with electric assist steering, and air conditioning, and such. Seems to me like the old systems worked fine. Why all the problems now? And rear brakes wearing out - what's up with that? I may look more towards a PT or even a used Mustang or something. Also considering a Celica. Hope the drive-by-wire throttle is OK with that car. Seems to me that all this new junk is running into strange kinks along the way. That's progress, a little learning pain along the road to perfection. I take it most ABS systems are safe enough now? Only ABS I ever had was on a '92 Acheiva and it IMO, was crappy. After coming to a stop, the back end would have an extra little jump, where the back wheel much have let go and allowed the back to hop. Never used it in an emergency, so I will have to take the word of GM that is works. As far as stopping power, the Stealth I had with 4 wheel disk was great. Now that's good old tech. Anyway, with all this stuff on today's cars, I wonder how many have problems which are related to those items built into the cars?
  • z71billz71bill Member Posts: 1,986
    I have had my Mazda3 (Automatic tranny) for over a year - yesterday when I stepped on the brake to shift it into reverse I heard a very loud CLICKING sound - I could also feel it in the gear shift. I have never noticed this before.

    I know that the sound is coming from the safety lock that prevents the gear shifter from being taken out of park unless you have the brake applied. So I guess you could say it is normal. But then latter in the day the noise was almost gone - so faint that if I would not have been listening for it I would not even have noticed it.

    Now sometimes when I put my foot on the brake to shift out of park I get a very loud CLICK - other time I get almost no click.

    I have checked the safety lock - I can not take it out of park unless I have my foot on the brake.

    Anyone else have a loud click?

    I am wondering if my safety lock switch may be about to fail.
  • lvhatchbklvhatchbk Member Posts: 12
    When I read your message this morning one item caught my eye. You mention going back to the dealer to have the oil changed when you have only 1000 miles on the car. Was this something the dealer told you to do? I purchased a 2004 hatchback new in December and according to the service department, which I called today, the first oil change is not due until 3000 miles.

    Is my dealer here in Las Vegas correct?

    Thanks.
  • m1miatam1miata Member Posts: 4,551
    Lots of people change their oil the first time at less than 1,ooo miles. Seem right to me, getting particles out of a new engine as is breaks in. It is no longer required by the manufacture since the days of break in oil, I guess, but old habits are hard to break, so I would change the oil the very first time at or around 1.ooo.

    Loren
  • bluetailbluetail Member Posts: 5
    I've got over 10,000 miles on my Mazda 3 with only one problem, a persistent rattle from the glove box. It stops if I open it or press on it, but the foam padding I put around the edges doesn't seem to stop it. Does anyone have any suggestions?
  • markdouglasmarkdouglas Member Posts: 9
    Just purchased a 2005 Mazda3 SP23 which has the option of purchasing a kit for Sirius satellite radio. I am currently an XM satellite radio subscriber (because I'm a baseball geek!) and was wondering if there was any way to get an accessory kit that would enable XM reception in the SP23 instead of Sirius ?? It would be great if I could use my XM throuth the SP23 Bose stereo!
  • daryldaryl Member Posts: 41
    With all the forum activity going on about this car and various complaints to various degrees, the slight glovebox rattle is the only thing wrong with my '04. Tough it's too cold right now and a low priority, I will get around to lubing all the hinges and putting a very light swipe of lubricant arounf the entire glovebox seal.
  • mazdafunmazdafun Member Posts: 2,329
    $50 for a set of 3M headlamp pieces v. $250 (gen-3 Protege) for a new headlamp assembly if it gets cracked by a rock. They're significantly thicker than the paint-protection film, so they will be noticeable on your headlamps, and yes, dirt does accumulate around their edges.

    My wife and I put the full kit ($500 pre-cut kit) on her '03 P5, and considering how she's letting the rest of her car go, I have to say it wasn't worth the investment (though the cover for the top of the rear bumper and the headlamp & foglamp pieces have been worthwhile). I'd have put it on my '99 Pro LX, but full kits weren't available when I got it (I installed a set of headlamp protectors). Then again, I'm fussy about my car.
  • kagedudekagedude Member Posts: 407
    I picked up my 2005 Strato Blue Mazda auto/sports yesterday. Almost drove off the dealer lot when I noticed hairline scratches on the hood and front fender. To make the frustrating story short, I had the dealer re-write the contract for $300 less. I ended up paying $16430 out the door (I had a higher trade in so there was no tax). I figured a drive to the car wash will do the same scratches.

    I know dark colors show scratches but to all the Strato blue owners, how is your paint finish holding up so far? Thanks.
  • musichemmusichem Member Posts: 1
    You said: Brand new 2005 Mazda3s, manual transmission. I'm getting an annoying "accelerate / decellerate" when using cruise contol. This rocking motion happens about every second, and is most noticable when going up or down small inclines.

    Change manual transmission to automatic, and this describes my experience exactly. Took delivery of the 2005 3s 5-door yesterday. The cruise is making me queasy with its continual accel/decel! Couldn't a programming change on the computer fix this? Hey Turby, maybe we should get together and call the dealers. I'll definitely be reporting this at the first oil change/service.
  • nifty6nifty6 Member Posts: 21
    I was told by a salesman that no early oil changes are necessy as the engines are broken in at the factory, But not sure if they change the oil after the break in period? And are the engines really broken in at the factory?
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Member Posts: 2,363
    The engines are not "broken in at the factory" [who makes up this stuff, anyway?]. However, it is also not true that the initial fill of oil needs to be dumped after 1000 miles, either. This is an old habit grounded in the past. There is no real reason not to go a full 5000 miles [or whatever the book calls for] to the first oil and filter change. But this is another of those urban myths that dies hard.

    Real break-in for a modern engine can take thousands of miles - my experience with Hondas, Toyotas, and Mercedes is that all of them gradually make more power, and gradually use less fuel, right up through 5-7k miles or more.

    This is not to be confused with each manufacturer's recommendation for initial "break-in" driving habits - generally, to seat the piston rings properly and get everything a bit happier after initial assembly, there are admonitions to take it easy for the first 600-1000 miles [lower rpm, avoid steady speeds for long periods of time, don't use full throttle]. You should always follow these instructions in the owner's manual as closely as possible. But at the end of that 600-1000 miles, while you're allowed to start using the engine to its full potential, it won't be fully loosened up for many more miles. Dumping the initial fill of oil in the crankcase at this point is just a waste of money and resources.
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