Mazda3 Maintenance & Repair

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  • lmp180psulmp180psu Member Posts: 399
    My 2.3 auto revs at 3600 at 80mph. I agree it is higher, and a 5th speed would be nice, but the engine is quiet even at those high rpms IMO
  • crashtestidiotcrashtestidiot Member Posts: 2
    I bought a new (88 miles on it) 2005 Mazda3 5-door (5-speed manual) from a dealer in Phoenix a little more than a week ago. After getting through the ‘break-in period’ (first 600 miles), I noticed my engine suddenly getting much louder. My engine started very quiet (I could not hear anything from the engine bay, only a nice exhaust growl from the rear under acceleration). Now, with the windows closed especially, I hear an overwhelmingly loud whine from the engine bay on acceleration (it covers up the exhaust note from the rear almost completely). The whine is tied to engine speed only (higher rpm = much louder), and occurs when driving in any gear, or revving the engine while parked. It tends to be louder when the car is cold. I find that I don’t really notice it until the engine gets above 3500 rpm or so, but it’s always there when I listen for it. The best way I can describe the noise is similar to the whine your transmission (normally) makes when you back up.

    Is this just a normal sound? I find it pretty hard to imagine since my engine started so quiet, and I’ve never had a Mazda engine sound like this. Next time you drive your car, keep the radio off and the windows rolled up. Let me know what, if any, noises are coming from your engine-bay when your engine gets above 3500 rpm.
  • z71billz71bill Member Posts: 1,986
    My guess is the noise is your power steering unit. The Mazda3 uses a system called "electro-hydraulic" - although I claim little knowledge about this system - I think the noise you hear is coming from the hydraulic part of the system.

     

    All Mazda3's have some whine in the steering unit - but it should not be that loud.

     

    But - My guess is the dealer will tell you it is normal.
  • nomorevolvonomorevolvo Member Posts: 6
    14,300 km, no problems to report. Just went in for airbag sensor recall, otherwise all a o.k. in the great white north.

    Glad my Volvo V40 lease expired Dec 1, that "Volvo for life" was killing me ($$$ and unreliable).
  • z71billz71bill Member Posts: 1,986
    I normally only use heat with the defroster when my windows are fogged over - but the last few days it has been down to 35-40 degrees in the morning so I turned the heater on.

     

    If I set the control so the heat goes 100% to the floor I still get alot of air coming out of the windshield defroster vent. Almost the same amount as if the control is at the defrost and floor setting. Is this normal? The HVAC system in the Mazda3 is the major weak spot. I wonder if the vent control problem is part of my poor performing AC issue.
  • waygrabowwaygrabow Member Posts: 214
    Just took my Mz3S in for the one-year checkup. Everything is fine except my A/C has never worked, so I gave them the TSB # that I learned on this forum. They acted like they had never heard of any A/C issue until I furnished the number. They admitted that the A/C was non-functional; said the coolant was low and believed the system has a leak, but they also ordered the parts for the TSB fix. They refilled the coolant before I left. I put the A/C on and, even though the outside temperature was about 40 degrees, the car interior did not get cold. So next will be a return visit to find the coolant leak and perform the TSB fix. If all goes right, I should have the perfect car after that. I'll let you know.
  • kmh2468kmh2468 Member Posts: 62
    Anyone run across this small yet annoying rattle under the driver's side dash? Strangely the rattle only appears at speeds over 40 or so. Otherwise it stays quiet. Any ideas as to where this rattle is coming from? Thanks.
  • z71billz71bill Member Posts: 1,986
    waygrabow - my Mazda3 also has the defective AC system - the air defusser fix did not do much for me - hope you have better luck that I did.

     

    Rattles - I finally solved both of my rattle problems.

     

    The part of the dash that sits above or sticks out over the gauges has rattle for months. I pulled the part partially off and stuck a piece of foam in the small slot that is in the dash. I have seen plastic toys from the dollar store that had better quality. If it starts to rattle again I will replace the foam with double sided tape.

     

    The drivers door has also had a rattle for months. It sounded like something was loose inside the door. I finally solved it. The rattle sound was being made by the door panel - the plastic part right next to the arm rest was rubbing on the metal part of the door. I first used a credit card to stick a piece of wax paper between the door panel and the metal door. Rattle sound stopped. Since I don't want to drive around with wax paper sticking out of my door - I have removed the paper and sprayed the crack with silicone lube. So far the rattle sound has not returned. I was surprised to find that what sounded like a rattle in the door was really plastic rubbing on metal.
  • z71billz71bill Member Posts: 1,986
    The sun roof has a built in air deflector - it pops up automatically whenever you open the sun roof.

     

    I had the roof open today and noticed that if I hold down the built in air deflector with my hand it actually reduces the amount of wind noise. Why did Mazda bother to put a deflector in place if it makes MORE rather than less noise?

     

    At any speed over 25 MPH the noise is so loud that we just shut the sun roof.
  • birdman579birdman579 Member Posts: 151
    The main reason for the air deflector is to prevent wind buffeting. If I hold my deflector down, it will start to resonant at particular speeds. With the deflector up, there's no resonance. I agree there is less noise at lower speeds, but I don't find it too loud on the highway with the deflector up. If you prefer to not have the deflector, it is easily removed.
  • z71billz71bill Member Posts: 1,986
    I started to take it off yesterday - but after taking off one side it looked like I would end up with a rattle in the sun roof - I also thought about just removing the two springs that make it pop up - I know that I don't want a plastic deflector - hate the looks - but they do work

     

    The only reason I got the sun roof is because we wanted the CD player -
  • everfebeverfeb Member Posts: 115
    Z71BILL...mine is the same...on FLOOR setting quite a lot of air comes out the defrost vent onto the front window. Thanks for posting this. I've always felt that when on FLOOR setting not as much warm air was getting to the floor as should. To try and correct this I've blocked my back seat heater vents off but never thought to check air flow from other vents. No wonder air flow to the floor feels weak...a lot of air is going onto the front window instead of my feet. As you turn setting to the left from FLOOR less air comes out the defrost vent. At DASH vent setting it seems no air comes out the defrost. My Acura 3.2TL is like this when on FLOOR setting except knowhere near as much air coming out of defrost vent with the TL as the 3.

         

    BTW...with the 3...on FLOOR setting or any setting to the right of floor...the A/C is always on regardless of whether intentionally turned on or off. Any setting to the left of floor and the A/C is not automatic so you can turn it on or off. I didn't know this last winter when I almost always had the FLOOR heater on. -40F or C and I'm driving around with A/C on. Winter driving AND A/C on = lousy mileage.

     

    One of my pet peeves since I got this car Dec 11 '03 WAS the very poor floor heat at idle and around town at low speeds when it's cold outside (-15C/5F or colder). This is subjective but it seemed to me last winter that air coming out of the dash vent is much warmer than air coming out of floor vent. Much warmer. Now that I've learned when I use FLOOR mode only that the A/C is on and a lot of air is being directed to the windshield instead of the floor I think I'm justified in my feeling the FLOOR heat mode is quite inadequate, at least in my particular Oct03 built 3 anyway. I'm hoping that using the 2 settings to the left of FLOOR will improve things.

     

    Z71BILL..I see you got 29 mpg on a 100% highway trip at moderate speeds. I have had a couple of 100% highway trips where I got less than 24mpg with my 2.3 auto but I did have 27 and 29 mpg 100% highway trips. Seems to me the 2.3 auto mileage is almost acceptable on the highway at slow speeds but must be a little pig around town. My last mileage check was 32%Highway68%around town and I got 16.76 mpUSgal. 203 miles on 12.157 gal. I needed 57% more gas to travel this distance than EPA says should be needed. Mind you it was cool up here during this mileage check...3-4 degrees above freezing to 10-15 degrees below freezing and there was snow on the roads for 1/2 the check. Can't wait for real cold weather to set in...10mpg around town??? Sorry for the grumbling.

     

    everfeb
  • z71billz71bill Member Posts: 1,986
    10-03 was not a good month to have a Mazda3 built.

     

    I plan to go in Monday to get the recall for the air bag & an oil change.

     

    I went through all the cars listed on Edmunds trying to determine what I should trade my lemon Mazda3 in on. I have put up with the grinding brakes, harsh shifting tranny, CEL that keeps coming back, rattles in the dash and door, a large clunk coming from the front over speed bumps, low MPG and my all time favorite the AC that will not cool my car. This trip to the dealer will be lucky number 12 - in less than 11 months & 9,500 miles. By far this car has been in the shop more times that any other that I have ever owned. Maybe even more times than my last 4-5 vehicles combined.

     

    It may be 100% stupid but I may just ask what kind of a deal I can get if I trade the 2004 Mazda3 in on a 2005. I keep thinking - cheat me once - shame on you - cheat me twice shame on me! I don't know if the dealership will "give me a break" because I have had so many problems -or if the will "stick it to me" because they know the history.
  • backybacky Member Posts: 18,949
    Take it to another dealer, which doesn't know the history.
  • z71billz71bill Member Posts: 1,986
    I think any Mazda dealership would be able to pull up the history - although maybe some would be too lazy.

     

    I would need to wait until the weather warms up again - to make sure that the AC system works -
  • lsmiles13lsmiles13 Member Posts: 5
    My 3s is Titanium grey. I am working on a construction site right now and before they paved the parking lots it was just dirt and stones... couldn't even tell the car was dirty. (Until i ran it through the car wash on friday. boy did it gleam like brand new then! haha)
  • lsmiles13lsmiles13 Member Posts: 5
    We were on our way home from a trip today and got stuck in a huge snowstorm. I thought my M3 handled really well, but my husband said it handled horrible. We did slide alot on the roads but they were pretty treacherous to begin with. In general, how well would you say your M3 handles in the snow?

     

    Also, considering getting snow tires or all season tires (Husband works for Bridgestone/Firestone and we get a GREAT discount.) Which are a better investment, snow or all-season?
  • megawattbluesmegawattblues Member Posts: 66
    Four dedicated winter tires will make all the difference in the world. Especially in the area of control - handling & breaking. Bridgestone makes the Blizzak - just about the household word in winter tires.

     

    What some people do (like me), is have a set already mounted on their own rims for easy on/off. These can be cheap steel wheels or they can be aftermarket alloys - tour choice. The advantage here is you keep the stock summer tires and wheels nice & safe while the snows are on.

     

    Wish I had a connection with a major tire co.! ;-]
  • npaladin2000npaladin2000 Member Posts: 593
    Blizzaks for the Mazda3 around here are A: backordered and B: $1000 for a set of 4, installed. Nokian WR are currently $800.

     

    I'm getting snowtires put on the OEM rims tomorrow (I don't even have a place to stash the TIRES, much less rims)..STS said they had some in the right size for about $450, but I forgot the brand.

     

    But after driving to work in the snow tonight, I don't care. ANYTHING has to be better than these stinking Eagle RSAs. I've driven BALD all-seasons that were better in snow; I've NEVER been so scared driving in snow in my LIFE. I was gonna save them for spring, but now they can throw them in the trash for all I care. I'll buy summer tires in the spring, or maybe ECSTA ASX, or Nokian WR if the price comes down or I work some extra overtime.
  • autonomousautonomous Member Posts: 1,769
    Many here have already provided great advice but I thought I would throw in my two cents about how to avoid a pricey fender-bender.

     

    The Eagles you are riding on are likely "performance" tires designed primarily for the best rather than the worst weather. Like many other performance tires they have some drawbacks including: replacement cost, hydroplaning in wet conditions and not being suitable for snowy conditions. For all those reasons, a set of winter tires makes a lot of sense. In addition, if you want to preserve your alloy rims and reduce the headache of switching tires, you should consider purchasing steel rims + winter tires. This is my third winter with snows and the security they provide is remarkable. A tip from my tire specialist: smaller footprints are better in the winter, i.e. go for a 15" rather than 16". With your connections, you know you'll not only be getting safe tires but also a great deal. Happy holidays!
  • megawattbluesmegawattblues Member Posts: 66
    You can get Blizzak LM-22's for the 17" wheels from tire rack for $141 ea. Or $105 for the 16" WS-50's.

     

    I went the with dunlop winter sport M2's for the high marks in both slippery & dry handling.

    HTH
  • npaladin2000npaladin2000 Member Posts: 593
    I had already decided it wasn't a good idea to wait to get tires shipped, especially since it snowed YESTERDAY, heh. What I got were Continental ContiWinterContacts TS970V for $50 LESS than TireRack's price per tire, so I'm pretty happy. The Dunlops would have been a nice choice if only they weren't sold out in my size. Like I said, wasn't really interested in getting rims too, since I don't even have a place to put the tires...I have to drop them over at my parents place. I live in an apartment. They're sitting in the back of my car right now. :)

     

    Anyway, these Contis seem to be pretty decent, and the Eagle RSAs don't even do well in rain for all-seasons, so come spring I'll probably shell out for summer tires with good wet traction...STS had some sweet looking Toyos.

     

    Incidentally, those Eagle RSAs are SUPPOSED to be all season tires. Performance all seasons, but still all seasons. What they SHOULD be called is "all season so long as the season doesn't involve any form of water on the road" ;)
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  • fuzzboxerfuzzboxer Member Posts: 19
    I'm interested in getting the splash guards. Does anyone have these and are they easy to install myself? I hope they prevent some of the upsplash. Maybe it will keep the side of my car a little cleaner.
  • z71billz71bill Member Posts: 1,986
    Did Mazda solve the rear brake issues in the 2005 model?

     

    1. Do you get a lot of brake dust on the rear wheels?

     

    2. Any grinding noise coming from the rear?

     

    3. Brake rotors getting groves in them?
  • deco_droiddeco_droid Member Posts: 7
    1. i wouldn't say "a lot" of brake dust. i only have a light amount which i would consider "normal" after 250 miles or so.

     

    2. no grinding noise at all on mine (05 built 10/04).

     

    3. no grooves after 250 miles or so. (i noted some brand new on the lot 04's that DID HAVE GROOVES!)

     

    so no rear brake issues on my 05. any other question???
  • asyaasya Member Posts: 4
    Hi,

      

    I'm picking up my mazda 3 hatchback tomorrow....can't wait!:)

      

    Question...i will be parking it on the street. Did any of you get any type of bumper protectors (not sure if that's the right term) that you could recommend me? I'd really appreciate it.

      

    Thanks!
  • jherteljhertel Member Posts: 2
    I have a clicking noise that seems to be coming from the dash area. Almost sounds like a short in a wire or something. I hear it evertime I lay off the gas pedal. Not sure if this is an electrical circuit problem or what. Anyone having the same problem?
  • tapperleytapperley Member Posts: 2
    hi i have an 2005 mazda3. its only 3 mo old nears 1500 miles. i had to push it home cause it WOULD not START!!!! my husband says he couldn't bump it either? anyone care to comment on what could be error? no its not out of gas!

      i have also noticed,not turning over w/first crank like normally.????
  • kmh2468kmh2468 Member Posts: 62
    I've had a similar noise from under the driver side dash area... Mine seems to only be noticeable at speeds about 40-45 mph though... No idea what the cause is. Any help???
  • chacobleuchacobleu Member Posts: 228
    Mazda shows this message when trying to “build a vehicle” on their USA web site.

      

    You have selected INTERIOR TRIM PACKAGE

    This requires removal of

    • ABS/SAB/SAC PACKAGE

    Are you sure you want to select INTERIOR TRIM PACKAGE?

     

    I had first selected ABS/SAB/SAC Package & then I proceeded to chose the Interior Trim Package, in addition.

     

    Apparently & according to Mazda, the ABS/SAB/SAC Package & the Interior Trim Package (Red or Blue: Door & Instrument Trim Panel; plus premium floor mat upgrade)

     

    I could not find this same restriction while trying to build the same vehicle on Edmund’s web site & a couple of other web sites that offer similar car build programs. In fact, on some of these independent web sites they direct the order to Blue or Red Clothed Seats when ordering Interior Trim Package (blue or red to match). Sometimes, this is done by prohibiting the order of black/charcoal leather seats in conjunction with ordering Interior Trim Package. I wasn’t able to duplicate this on Mazda’s Canadian web site because the packaging is different (without descriptions)

     

    What gives? Who’s correct?
  • cooldog2cooldog2 Member Posts: 11
    I am getting into this thread late, but I also have a black 2004 3 hatchback and the paint is being sandblasted and chipped off just in front of the rear wheels. Mazda has repainted it 2x and put on mud flaps but nothing has worked, is this the same problem you had? What is the paint TSP everyone is talking about? Any suggestions, I am ready to get a lawyer at this point...
  • waygrabowwaygrabow Member Posts: 214
    Does the starter engage? If yes, you may have inadvertently flooded the engine. Try holding the gas pedal to the floor while engaging the starter. As soon as the engine starts to fire, let up on the gas pedal. This is described in the owner's manual.
  • jherteljhertel Member Posts: 2
    No idea what causes this. My noise occurs at all speeds and you can hear it when I first start the engine and let off of the gas. Sounds electrical to me. Maybe something to do with the fuel injectors but not sure...I'm far from a mechanic.
  • eoghan1eoghan1 Member Posts: 58
    Mine is titanium and the problem has not gotten bad yet as I have been avoiding dirt roads etc.

    Years back there was a product called Chip-stop that you could apply as a temporary measure. I see Bondo makes something called Marhyde rubberized undercoating and 3M has a product 3M™ Rocker Panel Spray 05911 Clear, Net Wt 18 oz/510g , 12 per case but I need to do more research. My 95 GMC pickup had an OEM coating on the rocker panels that helped.
  • cooldog2cooldog2 Member Posts: 11
    Thanks for the info! Unfortunatly I live on a dirt road and the mazda rep keeps blaming it on that, but I have had several new cars while living here over the years and they all kept their paint on... The rep said it was the aerodynamics combined with the wide low profile tires. Is this the paint problem you all have been referring to?
  • tml1tml1 Member Posts: 2
    I have a 2004 Mazda 3 that I got in late July. But I already have close to 12,000 miles on it. In December the engine light came on and the car started going idle when I stop at a light or something. I don't know if it has anything to do with the cold. Well I took it to a Mazda dealer and they serviced a recall it had. But as far as the engine light coming on and how it cut off they were not sure why that happened. With their diagnosis computer a code did come out and they cleared it out. The told me to try it out. Well it went idle and cut off but I could start it back up. I took it back and they replaced the MASS AIR FLOW SENSOR. It did not seem to idle for a few days then all of a sudden it DID IT AGAIN and cut off but it still restarts. I have an service appointment for the dealer I got it from to check it out Monday. So I have to put up with 4 more days of driving it like this. But Monday or later if they can fix it right I will let you know what it was.

     

    I feel your pain.
  • tml1tml1 Member Posts: 2
    My engine light came on around that time too. Check out my thread BY tml1 Jan 5, 2005.
  • billherrmannbillherrmann Member Posts: 108
    Could someone please comment on the performance of the Mszda Nav. system. I'm considering ordering same on an 05 M3.
  • eoghan1eoghan1 Member Posts: 58
    Can any one tell me if snow tires on 15" rims from a 1999 Subaru Forester will fit on the Mazda? I am finding the 17" original equipment tires are very poor in the snow. If not these what rims from other cars are likely to fit?
  • el_bagadorel_bagador Member Posts: 28
    just bought an '04 3 hatch...was wondering if anyone knows of any good mazda mechanics in/around boston or lowell (i live just north of the city and work next to lowell). would rather not go to the dealer for any non-warranty items. thanks...
  • el_bagadorel_bagador Member Posts: 28
    just bought an '04 3 hatch...was wondering if anyone knows of any good mazda mechanics in/around boston or lowell (i live just north of the city and work next to lowell). would rather not go to the dealer for any non-warranty items. thanks...
  • wongpreswongpres Member Posts: 422
    tml1:

     

    A co-worker of mine had this problem. About two weeks after the surging idle started, the CEL came on, so he took it to the dealer.

     

    This TSB was utilized to identify & fix the problem:

     

    MIL ON - P0442/P0455/P0456

    Applicable Models

    Model Starting S/N Ending S/N

    2004 MAZDA3 00000000 ZZZZZZZZ

     

    Some vehicles may exhibit a MIL ON condition with DTCs P0442, P0455, and/or P0456 stored in memory. See the following list for possible causes.

    Capture freeze frame data, then clear all DTCs. Run the WDS evaporative system test to confirm the leak. If vehicle fails, use the Mazda approved, EVAP Tester (Model #134-01049) to further diagnose. Activate Mode 8 to manually close the Change Over Valve (COV). Note that the purge solenoid valve is Normally Closed. Run the gas leak test and the smoke test to confirm leak location.

     

    On Mazda3, the following conditions have been found:

     

    STUCK OPEN PURGE SOLENOID VALVE - Confirm by removing purge solenoid control valve hose at the intake manifold, then inspect to see if smoke exits from the hose. If smoke is seen, this indicates a valve that is stuck open.

    Note: If hose is not removed, smoke may not be seen anywhere, and it will appear the vehicle has no leak.

     

    MISSING "BASKET" SEAL - A smoke test will reveal if a basket seal is missing from a quick disconnect fitting.

     

    --

     

    The "STUCK OPEN PURGE SOLENOID VALVE" condition happened on my co-worker's car, so they replaced the solenoid valve and the CEL and surging idle have since been remedied (took it to the dealer just after Christmas).

     

    eoghan1:

     

    There are two Mazda3 rotor sizes, one larger and one smaller. In N. American-spec, the larger one comes with the 2.3l engine and the smaller size with the 2.0l.

     

    If you have the larger rotor (i.e. the 2.3l engine), 16-inch is the smallest you can go. If you have the smaller rotor (i.e. the 2.0l engine), 15-inch is the smallest you can go.
  • billherrmannbillherrmann Member Posts: 108
    would someone please explain the advantages/disadvantages of 17 vs 16 inch tires.
  • eoghan1eoghan1 Member Posts: 58
    Thanks for the info on the rims. If I shop the junkyards can you tell me what cars to check for 16" rims re bolt circle and offset?
  • z71billz71bill Member Posts: 1,986
    You must also know the tire size that will go on the wheel. Mazda uses 205 50 17 & 205 55 16 size tires. In this case the overall diameter of the two different tires/wheel combos is almost the same - so your engine will run the same RPM at say 60MPH with either size.

     

    In the case of the Mazda3 the 17 inch wheel has a smaller aspect ratio (the 50 in 205 50 17 VS the 55 in the 205 55 16) this means that the tire will have a sidewall that is (205 X 50% = 102.5) MM tall - the 16 inch tire has a 112.75 MM tall sidewall.

     

    In VERY general terms - a taller sidewall will give you a softer ride - since the tire has more space between the road and the wheel - it can flex more when you hit a bump. The flip side of a larger sidewall is when you turn a sharp corner the sidewall also will have more flex. In the corners a small sidewall will give you more direct steering - so the choice is do you want a softer ride or better handling.

     

    I think the suspension in the Mazda3 is the same for 16 & 17 inch wheel packages - so this trade off will be true. I would however bet that 8 out of 10 drivers will - in everyday driving see very little difference in the handling - you will need to push the car pretty hard before the difference becomes obvious. I would also guess that most people would see a small difference in the ride between the two tire sizes.
  • billherrmannbillherrmann Member Posts: 108
    Thanks z7. A comprehensive explaination. This explains why the driving enthusiasts prefer the larger[better handling] tires. Cosmetically, I believe the 17s look better as well.
  • wongpreswongpres Member Posts: 422
    Bolt pattern is 5x114.3

    Factory rim offset is 52.5mm
  • ndphdjdndphdjd Member Posts: 4
    I purchased a 3 s 4-door in 10/04. My problems with the car began on the trip home from the dealership. Here's a list of all of the problems and solutions:

     

    1. Rattle in instrument cluster. This occurred at all speeds, but was most noticeable at highway speeds. The dealer removed the cluster, secured some wires and added foam padding.

    2. Rattle behind/around glovebox. The dealer removed the glovebox and added padding.

    3. Noisy brakes on cold mornings, during the first or second applications. The dealer replaced the saddles on one set (I can't remember if they were F or R). I hear that a new TSB is coming out soon. In any event, the squeal is gone.

    4. Stiff, creaking clutch pedal. One dealership tried greasing the spring/assembly. This lasted for only 3 days. My hone dealership (I believe) had to replace the entire clutch pedal assembly. The clutch is much softer now than it was on delivery.

     

    That's about it...it's taken about 8 trips to the dealership to get the car in good condition...I knew that I took a risk when I purchased a car during it's first model year....

     

    In any event, I'm pretty happy. This is my third Mazda; I've previously owned a '95 Protege and a '96 626 V6. When I was on the new car market last fall, I test drove the Civic EX, Corolla, etc. I also test drove the Mazda 6 V6 twice. The 3 blew the Civic and Corolla out of the water. Although the 6 was more luxurious, the 3 was much more fun to drive....
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