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Toyota Tundra New Owner Reports



  • KCRamKCRam Mt. Arlington NJPosts: 3,516
    are not allowed in the Forums. First and only warning.

    kcram - Pickups Host
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    ESL? Yep I thought so.

    Born and raised in NY. Retired to the beach here after 30 yrs in NYC. Your sentences are improving but you brought a knife to a gunfight son.

    BTW, a preposition is something with which a sentence you do not end. You're welcome.
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    Correct quotation and attribution:

    "From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put."

    Sir Winston Churchill
  • dreasdaddreasdad Posts: 276
    To get to the numbers that we need to be at Tundra's will have to be discounted from the word go! Truck market isn't like other markets and we are not going to sell any where close to 300,000 unless we are flexible with the customers. We will make profit but it will be nothing like the FJ's. You probably where not out of highschool yet when the Tundra came out in 2000 but we did not hold to sticker longer than 30 days then.
    One sell at the start could result in 20 later on. Happy customers tell others where they bought, ones who think they got ripped off never refer the salesman to others
  • pigs get fed, hogs get slaughtered.
  • rorrrorr Posts: 3,630
    "pigs get fed, hogs get slaughtered."

    With a little work, that could be turned into a cool haiku... ;)


    modest pigs eat on
    greedy hogs with throats pumping
    dump blood to the ground

    Now, what the heck that has to do with the new Tundra, I have NO idea..... :confuse:
  • luckylouluckylou Posts: 308
    Just drove by my local Toyota dealer and they have the 2007 Tundra brochures , but no price list , to me it means that the trucks are not far behind.
    I am looking forward to test drive one of this big boys.
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    We have 23 in our system for the first 30 days. About 10 of them are at the railhead ready to be shipped on or about Feb 10th.

    There seems to be some 'discussion' within Toyota about the pricing levels.
  • dreasdaddreasdad Posts: 276
    Scuttlebutt puts price around 3% more than 2006 models.
    with Side airbags and VSC and traction control standard that might mean over all price would be less than 2006 models
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    Sounds typical and very smart given that two of the main three are in the midst of 'take it at any price' campaigns.
  • I saw the new Tundra commercial last night when watching the NBA Cavs. V. Nuggets. The commercial has some humor,here's what the announcer says "For the last 10 years full size half ton trucks have made under 380 pounds feet of torque, you wanted 401 lb ft of torque....that's alot of gravey." and the second one,"For years full size half ton trucks have used 4 speed automatic transmissions, you wanted a 6 speed automatic trnsmission......happy birthday! Kind of funny the truck on the commercial looked very nice!
  • 1972ck1972ck Posts: 56
    Hi kdhspyder,
    Yeah, our dealership has received about the same allocation as yours. In our region we're not receiving any D-Cabs with the TM, (tow mirrors) only HM. (heated mirrors) I called our Truck Manager and tried to FRS change some of our incoming Double Cabs w/ the 5.7 liter. Toyota won't let us FRS change anything for the 1st 6 mos.(which I can understand, production is already scheduled to be built a certain way) Is your region getting TM equipped D-Cabs? We can get the TM on Reg.Cab 5.7 tow pkg. equipped Tundras ONLY. I've got numerous customers begging for tow mirrors for their D-Cab orders and (coming soon) Crew Max trucks. And you can NOT port install TM. The brochures show the TM on the Crew and D's. I sure hope my region changes it's mind soon. I've got guys who tow a lot of "toys" and equipment trailers ie: plumbers, contractors that really feel they NEED the TM. They are accustomed to having them on their current GMC and Ford trucks. And they ALL want the 5.7 with the tow package. None of whom want to wait another 6 mos. to get expandable tow mirrors. They feel as though they have waited long enough for the new Tundra to be released. I can't disagree with anything they're saying/asking for. If your region is making the same "mistake" call your Regional Truck Manager and let him know. Let me know what's, what in your region. Thanks!
  • 1972ck1972ck Posts: 56
    I've been reviewing the 2007 Tundra brochure at home today. On the page where it describes the rear ring gear and transmission it has a small section in the middle about the "Transmission Heating and Cooling" It states that the 5.7/6spd. auto equipped Tundras come with a transmission fluid warmer as well as the cooler. Trans. coolers I am familiar with...the "warmer" I am not. I understand why Toyota is equipping them w/ the warmer but I am unware of how it actually works. Is it an electric heat element? Does it use the warm coolant from the engine via passages in the block beside it? I do not recall anyone explaining anything about this feature (ATF warmer) in Indiana at the Truck Champion Seminar or at our launch that was held in Boston, MA for our region. I need to understand how this feature works so I can explain it properly to consumers coming in to my dealership's showroom. I can't find any explaination anyway as to HOW it works. Help! :confuse:
  • luckylouluckylou Posts: 308
    Hi guys , a friend who is a Toyota salesman mention that the leather seats are not very comfortable they feel like a park bench.
    Has anyone who have sat inside the cab experience front seat discomfort.
    If this is correct I wonder if it can be treated like a new baseball glove and use the " good old " Saddle Soap.
    I have waited a long time for this truck , I hope that for long distances they would feel nice and comfy.
    I am aiming for the CrewMax , oh yes , 5.7 Limited with as many bells and whistles as my pocket book can afford.
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    I did sit in and drive one. Like most Toyotas and Hondas the seats are 'firm', but ;) ,,, oh nevermind.

    The leather version will probably take some breaking in as you say just like a baseball glove.
  • luckylouluckylou Posts: 308
    Thanks kdhspyder.
    I am a heavy guy after a few days it could comfort to my butt.
    In less than 2 weeks we should all find out.
    Do you know the exact release date ?? Is it February ???
    Thanks again.
  • 1972ck1972ck Posts: 56
    In my last message I was searching for someone to inform me about the ATF warmer. I was reading the lastest issue of "MOTOR" magazine. It's an "insider" publication for auto tech.s and the like. The ATF warmer uses the warm coolant from the engine block to heat the ATF. This helps with cold weather warm ups.(for the tranny) This is especially crucial in colder climates with someone how wishes to use their new Tundra to tow with in colder months of the year. Also with this system, it will most certain help with longevity of the transmission by keeping the viscosity of the ATF right where it needs to be! It utilizes a thermostat to allow the heated coolant to enter it's chamber. Metal ATF lines run through the unit. When the ATF is warm enough it simply shuts off the coolant flow to it via the aforemention thermostat. Great, innovative idea by Toyota! This is just one more reason why Toyota is going to take the full sized pick up world by storm! Your customers are waiting! :shades:
  • dreasdaddreasdad Posts: 276
    Feb 12 is supposd to be the exact date but some dealers might have them a little earlier
  • luckylouluckylou Posts: 308
    Thank you.
  • beliasbelias Posts: 316
    I really like the overall package that Toyota is offering with this truck. It looks like it will be good for their bottom line and for customers alike. However, I am a little torn between getting a long bed double-cab and the crew max. My main concern with the crew max is being able to haul long items. I know the rear window comes down and I know that we should start to see some ladder frames that could be used to tie items above the roof, but if anybody has had experience using a short-bed truck to take long items, I would certainly like to hear your thoughts... what were the benefits if any? What were some of the problems/shortcomings? Were there any specific problems with the short bed that I should be aware of? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
  • luckylouluckylou Posts: 308
    Thanks dreasdad.
    The CrewMax Limited 4X4 , 5.7 L , MSRP $41850 , I not going to rush to the Toyota dealership anytime soon, unless they are willing to deal .
    I still remember awhile back the pricing for the new SUV Sequoia they wanted MSRP , plus a couple grands above that.
    I might go and test drive this new beast , with a different frame of mind.
    By adding Navigation , Moonroof , TRD Off-Road , Tow Pkg. , XM Radio , the Tundra will be pushing 50,000 , plus TTL . WOW !!!!!!
    I will need to come out of retirement to purchase this awesome truck.
  • serranotserranot Posts: 113

    Saw the new Tundra at the DC Auto Show. Sat in both a Limited and SR5 double cab. Very very nice. The seats are wonderful. Nice and firm with great thigh support. Loved it. Hope the prices come down at some point.

  • beliasbelias Posts: 316
    I think it will be really tough for Toyota to meet their numbers with the prices they are quoting. No offense to Toyota, but they are going to have to knock off at least $5K on most models to compare to their well-entrenched domestic competition. I don't pretend to be a fan of the Big 3's products, but in the auto industry you have to do better than just build something good... you have to build it better than the competion AND be more valuable... that means price has to be close to equal or less. I think Toyota misses the mark on this... what person is going to spend close to $50K for a decked out crew-max 1/2 ton truck? Even more disconcerting... the entry level work truck is $22,290... that impacts fleet sales for construction companies. All-in-all, I can safely say that the new Tundra won't make it to my list unless there are some substantial price discounts... and that isn't likely to happen for at least another year. The Silverado and Titan are looking a lot better...
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    I guess that depends a lot on which model/trim you are interested to buy.

    Regular Cab? Titan is definitely out
    Upper trims? The Siverado is $2000 - $4000 higher than the Tundra
    Middle model/trim? The Silvy and Tundra are almost exactly the same.

    Agreed on the work truck segment beginning at $22000
  • drfilldrfill Posts: 2,484
    According to the pre-production sample, the Tundra is the best.

    But you also want a lower price than the vehicles it bests?

    Not likely.

    If you want cheese on your Whopper, pay for it. This is no Soup Kitchen. If you can't hack it, Ford and Nissan will pay you to buy thurs. :confuse:

    I love truck buyers, getting Crew Cabs, 380HP engines, Moonroofs, NAV, 20", all these things they don't need, then complain that it's too expensive.....

  • saddaddysaddaddy Posts: 566
    does NOT list for $40k+? They all do. Frankly, I was expecting higher prices for the Tundras.
  • The ATF warmer is just extra claptrap with no real benefit. With today’s modern ATFs (especially the synthetics), it takes -20 F before the trans fluid temperature is a concern. This is basically Alaska and points north.

    And of course, virtually all automatic transmissions are warmed by the engine coolant since they use water-to-oil coolers in the radiator. Yes, I know the thermostat has to be open to get the warmed water circulating but this happens very quickly with aluminum block engines burning gasoline (as opposed to diesel).

    Bottom line, this “feature” makes for good brochures but has no substance.
  • luckylouluckylou Posts: 308
    Plain and simple , is human nature to complain about anything that does not conform with our expectations.
    Point in case , me , I complain about the price and DrFill is correct if the price would have been lower I would have also complain or better yet I would have thrown a temper tantrums , if the truck I would like to buy is cheaper than the others.
    A few options I really don't need but is good to have like 4X4 , Tow/Haul , 5.7 L . , etc...
    Nevertheless I am looking forward to test drive this truck , if for a far fetch reason dealer and buyer agree on a good price , I will buy one if not I will wait for " December to Remember Sales " . I refuse to pay MSRP .
  • dmuttdmutt Posts: 48
    Drove past the Toyota Dealership in Billings, MT, and on there lot sitting was a new white 07 Reg Cab Tundra. Did not stop to look at it. Had an appointment.
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