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I have not towed much of a load yet but I have had the max load in the box, drywall, the truck handled the load with ease. I definetly noticed a difference when i engaged the tow haul feature. Starts were very smooth and responsive.
One full month of driving and I am in for my first oil change 5000 miles is the recommended as everyone has stated. Mileage is also getting much better - 17 mpg average and dropping.
-Safety Equipment standard. Bravo to Toyota for making all the safety equipment standard. This alone would make me buy this vehicle over the competition.
-Excellent turning radius for such a large vehicle. I came away surprised the first time I did a u-turn.
-Very tall vehicle. Even for me at 6'3" and long arms, it was tough to wash the windshield. Also, felt like I could almost look big rig drivers in the eye from their seating position.
-Major Power. It won't leave you wanting for power. The 5.7 is monster. Wow!!!!
-Smooth Transmission. Drove it over 500 miles in the Sierra Nevada mountains and it always was in the right gear. It did; however, have some rough shifts initially after sitting over night. It quickly disappeared once it warmed up. The automatic transmission shift lever was perfectly placed for the right hand.
-Interior Quality ok. The top glove box (there are two) was rather flimsy and unbecoming of a $43,000 truck. Interior door handles didn't inspire ruggedness either.
-Fuel Economy good. Average 19.5 miles to the gallon while driving in the mountains. I expected worse due to the large engine and weight of the vehicle. Averaged just over 18MPG in 90% highway/10% city driving in the valley.
-Sonar slow to act - Although I didn't depend on the sonar, I did notice there was a definite delay when alerting you to an object. Despite this, I still appreciated the feature.
-Expensive. List price for the Limited I drove was $43,000. It did have all the bells and whistles on it (navigation, backup camera, leather, etc), but I still thought it was pricy for what you are getting.
Overall a very nice rig.
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Bob
Seriously, beware of the tow ratings that manufacturers claim. There is no 'standard' like SAE that dictates how they arrive at the rating. It is mostly done by the "pick-a-number" method.
There is no substitution for mass up front. To maintain control of the rig during hard braking, evasive maneuvers, etc. you need mass and lots of it up front.
Beating you buddy away from the stop light is one thing. Having a controllable rig from all aspects is an entirely different story.
We have plenty of SR5s with "Dubs"! :shades:
DrFill
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Thx
I just want the new one, b/c everything about it is badass!
I will probably need new tires in a few months, and I do have small crack in the windshield, other than that I am having trouble coming up with ways to convince her.
Bob
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DrFill
Just hooked up my travel trailer (28foot) and set the hitch(Weight dist. bars and etc. It didn't even feel like it was on back. Just a short run, I will post after our long haul next week end.
This is a owner's forum.
For those looking to order, here are some things I have noticed:
If you are wanting the review camera I would strongly suggest going with the NAV since the screen would be bigger. The screen that you get with the backup camera is very small and awkward to view. It is better than guessing when hitching up or backing up against objects behind you. But again awkward to view.
Remote start is kind of strange. When you unlock the doors to get in the engine shuts off. Doesn't matter if you use the remote or keys, it shuts off. Seems it is designed this way for safety. Have verified this is the typical operation from other owners on the TS forum.
When ordering accessories, you can save some big bucks buying them from internet sites vs having them ordered with the truck. Bought quite a few and probably saved about $500.
Gas gauge takes a little getting use to. It read half a tank today, so I decided to fill it up to see what 1/2 really is. Filled up with 8.8 gallons. Tank is a 26 gallon tank.
For those looking at possibly purchasing one, do yourself a favor and don't listen to the trolls who are trying to destroy this trucks reputation. Go out and test drive one yourself. There are going to be people who don't like these trucks as much as others and there is nothing wrong with that at all. My last truck was a F-350 Powerstroke Dually, still love those trucks. We no longer have a need for the Superduty. This truck is a completely different type of beast for me. Rides smoother than my wifes Camry, and I think more comfortable. Power, fast... Still only have 125 miles on this truck, so I haven't stomped on it yet. I did make sure to stomp on it on their demo unit.
So add another extremely satisfied owner to the list.
As a Ford guy myself, I still believe that Ford trucks are the still best in the industry, but in the 1/2 ton class, the Tundra clearly has the edge. I'm hoping the 2009 F-150 will be something special, either a larger Triton motor putting down roughly 400hp and even better a Diesel, something not found in that class.
But congrats on the Tundra, fantastic trucks.
My question is: Where do we get to the point of diminishing returns on 1/2 ton engine power?
Only so much power can be used in an unloaded truck. And with the price of gas at $3 several months out of the year, how much power is going to be too much?
DrFill
We were definitely heading toward a Ford. I had owned a '97 F150 years ago and we were thinking F250 for its towing capability.
We then went to a horse show in Sacramento to look at horse trailers when we noticed a Tundra demo. The Toyota rep offered us two test drives, one without a trailer on a course they had set up in one of the parking lots and another with the Tundra attached to a huge trailer. We ended up trying both demos and after that we were convinced that the Toyota had to get on our short list of trucks.
Right after the show we immediately went to a Ford dealer to try the new F250 and we both came away convinced that the Tundra was the right truck for us. The F250 certainly was capable but there was so much about the Tundra that we liked.
1) The Tundra has electronic stability control and more standard safety features that any domestic 1/2 ton or 3/4 ton for that matter. That is a huge plus in my mind since trucks are so prone to rollover. The big 3 have a long way to catch up in this regard.
2) The 6-speed tranny. How can GM still have a 4sp on its new Silverado? What was GM thinking? I know they are going to have 6 speeds later, but that's ridiculous.
3) The 381 HP and over 400lb/foot torque. Nothing else can compare.
I find some of the forum talk and some of the reviews laughable. Motor Trends review and comparison to the Silverado was particularly amusing. MT likes the Silverado better, but there's no mention of the safety advantage. They also seem to gloss over the 4sp tranny and the lower horsepower and torque.
Hey I know it's hard to accept that a Japanese company made a better pickup, but in the end isn't competition better for the consumer? Ford, Dodge, and GM are going to respond with better trucks because of Toyota.
In the meantime, I'm going to enjoy driving the Tundra. Without a doubt it's the best pickup out there, bar none.
Some notes/experiences:
-got crappy mileage the first 1500-2000 miles. Been averaging 16.5-17 mpg the last 3000 miles
-i live on a dirt road on a small mountain and have been very impressed with both the on road and off road handling, including a period where the dirt road was washed out after some heavy spring rains. While the ride is stiffer than the vehicle it replaced (a Land Rover), I prefer the Tundra on and off road.
-used lo-4 a few times, once for real when I pulled a pickup out of ditch. No problem.
-the brakes are awesome! I've been impressed with the brakes on this vehicle all along, but they saved my butt last month when a van, 2 vehicles ahead of me, suddenly hits the brakes to make a U-turn on a 4 lane highway with no turning lane and in heavy traffic! The truck in front of me smaked into the van, but I was able to stop and not take part in the crash fest. Damn good brakes.
-the bottom of the back door got pushed in from some hit-and-run clown in a parking lot, on the 3rd day of ownership, no less! The next day I added foot rails figuring that if this happens again, the other vehicle will be dented as well.
-love the bed liner insert and optional moveable tie downs.
Dissappointments
-radio sucks. But I knew that before purchasing the truck, just ran out of $ before I could install a 3rd party stereo. Actually every Toy radio I've heard including the high end ones on Ltd models stink for sound quality, but this is a minor price to pay in my mind.
-mileage. This is only a dissappointment because I was hoping for better than the EPA ratings. The two other Toys I've owned (the original P/U and current 4-Runner) each got mileage in the low 20's, even though their upper ratings where below 20 mpg. The Tundra, on the other hand is getting what the EPA said to expect.
All-in-all, I am really happy with my purchase and look forward to driving it each day.
Just took delivery, babying it until breakin period is done. Got 20+ hwy at 65 mph, 18 thru the city w/ air on. Tac was at roughy 1700 at 65mph in 6th gear. Figured out that the 5.7 weighs 50lbs more than the 4.7 set up, has the 4.3 rear end, 6 spd tranny and twin VVT-i engine so not surprised it's very efficient.
I can only describe the ride as phenominal, smooth, quiet, gauges are all layed out beautifully. Stereo (JBL) is absolutely kickin', nice with the AUX input (i-pod). Seats are very comfie.
Traded in an '05 Tacoma 4x4 6-spd V6 which got 18 mpg, can't believe this thing is better and such a more refined driving machine.
When my sales mgr called and told me about the $3500 rebate I was in the showroom in a flash, not looking back!
What i hate about the 07 Tundra DC is the lack of rear window rolldown. This feature was the main reason why I bought the 05 DC. Furthermore, why do we even need an extended side view mirrors. Those mirrors are too BIG!!! What percentage of this world tows anything more than 3 times a year? A normal size side mirrors are plenty!
I noticed that the 07 Tundra has MORE plastics all around. It reminds me of the time I was shopping for a Titan. Plastic everywhere!! On the same note, the view of the truck bed is very SIMILAR to the Titan Crew Cab. Copy cat?
I used to get 24 MPG with the old truck i don't think the same gas mileage can be expected in this new setup for the 4.7L.
Having driven my DC 4x4 TRD for over 5000 miles to date I am glad I spent the additional money on the 5.7L The power is much more significant, the transmission is very smooth and the gas mileage average from the time of purchase is 18 MPG. My current gas mileage is edging close to 20 MPG. I literally drive all over Southern Ontario, on business, doing a lot of highway miles and in differing topography. The truck loves to travel.
Overall the 5.7 is a much better setup and I think by the majority of guys on this forum the overwhelming setup appears to be the 5.7L with the TRD package.
I think the window rolldown is more of a function of external aesthetics than internal function, besides you'll be driving and the kids will be in the back seat. They'll get used to it, mine have. The truck looks sweet. I agree with you on the mirrors though.
More truck = more Plastic. Finally, pretty much all the trucks out there have a similar view into the truck bed.
Just my opinion 'A'.
have you got your truck? Just wondering.
I have hard time believing they don't seem to have a good idea of delivery this late in the game.
They have 1 more week to meet their obligations.
Then I will have to start considering other options.
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My truck has 15K miles now, still gas mileage seem's to improve.
Best mileage: 25.5 MPG
Worst mileage: 8.6 MPG
Average: 18.8 MPG
Seems to getting better every day. The fact that my Tundra hauled more than 1000 lbs the other day that impresses me, what impressed me more is that it gave 16.5 MPG average.
Twenty, that's 20, vehicles have been identified as having defective camshafts.
50,000 vehicles to be recalled? If that's the case then they will be recalling vehicles made last week.
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