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  • moparbadmoparbad Member Posts: 3,870
    Chicago IL area.
  • ridgeowner3ridgeowner3 Member Posts: 27
    Thanks for your opinion. And gas mileage did play into my Ridgeline purchase, along with everything else. A full-size domestic 4WD pickup, like my old Chevy Silverado, gets 12-13 mpg. Almost all compact trucks are rated between 16-21 like the Ridge. Even the new hybrid Chevy/GMC Sierra only increases mpg by 1 from the standard Sierra. I consider the Ridgeline to be in between a compact and a full-size. But you know what...my Ridgeline is getting about 19 mpg (combined driving) now that it's broken in a little, and I expect it might get more, especially on long trips. So your 25% increase has happened with the Ridgeline over similar sized trucks, if you take 15 mpg x 1.25 = 18.75 which I get easy.

    Glad to be helping the cause!
  • higimanhigiman Member Posts: 1
    Had me confused as well... So I wrote the following email to the Editors...

    > Dear Edmunds Editors:
    >
    > I have been researching the Honda Ridgeline as this
    > vehicle seems to fit (for the most part) what I am
    > looking for in a truck (smooth car like
    > ride/handling, AWD, mid-duty off road capability and the different
    > from the norm appearance).
    >
    > However, I was concerned after reading your Full
    > test that the Ridgeline performed, not so well in the off
    > road segment.
    >
    > The funny thing is I read the article on 4/5 and
    > under the section titled, Off road, it specifically stated
    > the Ridgeline did "poorly" yet when I read the
    > article again today, it now states "it had a hard time..."
    >
    > Why the softening of the report? This is most
    > disturbing to me... Was this done because Honda
    > threatened to pull advertising dollars or did the
    > Editors have a change of heart?
    >
    > To be fair to Honda and to the readers, how severe
    > was this hill? Any pictures, video clips you can share
    > that shows what was happening?
    >
    > I believe I read or heard somewhere that the
    > Ridgeline should be able to tackle a 28 degree incline without
    > any issues...
    >
    > Please clarify this for me as it not only changes my
    > decision to purchase a Ridgeline but it also makes
    > me wonder about the accuracy of your road test
    > articles.
    >
    > Would hope that one would keep things "real" and not
    > cover up some negative attributes just because it
    > didn't strike favorably with the auto manufacturers
    > marketing department... :(
    >
    > Please restore my confidence in both Edmunds and
    > Honda. Would really like to know how well this
    > truck performs in mid-duty off-road situations.
    >
    > I look forward to your response

    To date, I haven't received a response yet... :(
  • gearhead1gearhead1 Member Posts: 408
    some people have wind sheild noise, some don't. I don't. This can be avoided easily enough by just test driving and finding one that doesn't have it as I did. I've heard of one guy that got it fixed. Dealer replaced wind shield and reseated it.

    This is the owner that got his fixed:

    "My final update IT'S FIXED . The new windshield was installed and I got my Ridgeline back almost 2 weeks later . Now I understand the quite ride many of talk you about . I asked my service advisor point blank what was the cause and he explained that the windsield is "glued" in and that if the glue is not tempered properly it can a warp and therefore at high speeds the air will be caught in the coving where the windshield seats . This where the noise comes from air whistling between the truck body and the cove where the "glue" is. It is an areodynamic problem as much as anything . The rubber seal that we all see on the outside of the windshield was not the problem this is only a water barrier .This is my interpation .
    As a side the billets look cool . verry happy.
    The back up sensor take some getting use to .They are scheduled by Honda to take 6 hours to install , but I was told that it took 2 days to do . The service advisor said it looked like the whole truck was dissassambled ."
  • ecotrklvrecotrklvr Member Posts: 519
    Mebman -

    Even though there's many that agree with you, this ain't the place. Live your life the way you want, and I'll live mine. And apparently the thought of having their grandparent's disappointed in them makes some others really angry.

    And as ridgeowner3 points out, the Ridgeline isn't really the biggest problem. It may even be part of the solution, in giving truckers a more economical choice of trucks. Now I'll bet you weren't well received at the Hummer forum either, eh?
  • bawlmercbawlmerc Member Posts: 17
    During the typical Saturday travels I spotted 3 Ridgelines on the road. First time I saw any taged. First one was at a 7-11, I stopped the owner and asked how she liked it. She said it was her sons and it was the first one sold in Baltimore county Maryland. She says they love the truck, especially the car like ride and the bedtrunk.
    I don't want to drive one yet because I will get into financial trouble. I will be able to purchace one in about a year after my current vehicle is paid off.
    I enjoy reading this forum and has provided me with plenty of information.
    Thanks
  • lowcruzrlowcruzr Member Posts: 8
    I'm so sick of reading posts bickering about how the Toy, Fronty, and Ridge do off roading. Who cares how they do!! When I had a well-used, 2 door, 4wd Tahoe, I used to go mudding on a weekly basis. But in all the years I was bogging/off-roading, I NEVER remember seeing a new $30k+ vehicle on the trails. If it was relatively new, it was clean and parked at the trail-head. Appearently the members of these boards are loaded if they can afford to take a new vehicle and subject it to mother natures worst.

    Who are they kidding?! Not Honda. Honda knows this and made a vehicle for what it will ACTUALLY be used for.

    As proof of my real-life off-road intentions (read: NONE), the wife has granted 20" rims and tires at the time of purchase. I need info to start shopping. Does anyone know the lug spacing and back spacing numbers? Owners, is this found in the OM?

    Thanks. :D
  • once_for_allonce_for_all Member Posts: 1,640
    have you investigated how the tire pressure monitoring system (TPMS) will transfer to the new wheels?

    John
  • lowcruzrlowcruzr Member Posts: 8
    I know of two different methods used in TPMS systems (correct me if there are others). One is a somewhat-expensive monitor/transmitter thingy (nice technical term) inside the tire. The other uses existing (read: cheap) ABS wheel speed sensors to detect a delta in wheel speeds. A tire with a lower pressure has a smaller rolling diameter, thus spins faster than the other 3, yada, yada, yada...

    Without just guessing, does anyone know which system Honda uses? If it's the transmitter style, I'd imagine there is a way to defeat it for those intent on purchasing dedicated winter wheels and tires.
  • once_for_allonce_for_all Member Posts: 1,640
    an earlier post, and the Honda literature, indicated that it actually measures pressure. So, there must be a transmitter of sorts.

    Seems to me that you would want this feature. It may even figure in somehow to the VTM and VSC functions.

    I would think there would be a way to mount this system on new wheels.

    John
  • gearhead1gearhead1 Member Posts: 408
    It's my understanding it actually measures the pressure in each wheel and also measures a temperature difference. If the temperature varys more than 2 degrees in a wheel, the tire pressure light will come on.
  • once_for_allonce_for_all Member Posts: 1,640
    temp sensor doesn't seem like a good idea. How do you deal with two tires that go through some water? Or one tire that sits in the sun and gets 20 degrees hotter before you even hit the road.

    There are complications with that one. But, if Honda did it then presumably they have it all worked out.

    John
  • ridgeowner3ridgeowner3 Member Posts: 27
    I took mine over the Golden Gate Bridge this weekend and rolled up and down the streets of SF, and man was that awesome!

    Drove the East Bay commute on those crappy highways and anyone who does it can tell you that's about as off-roading as it gets around there!

    Anyway, the truck is SOLID. Smooth ride the whole weekend!

    (btw, CHP rode up at a gas station and asked to see the trunk because it was the first one he'd seen and he was curious. He liked the fact that it locks. FYI)
  • gearhead1gearhead1 Member Posts: 408
    (btw, CHP rode up at a gas station and asked to see the trunk because it was the first one he'd seen and he was curious. He liked the fact that it locks. FYI)

    You should have asked him if he had "probable cause". Good thing you were clean. :)
  • cr vcr v Member Posts: 23
    This info was posted by a user on Ridgeline Owners Club.
    45mm offset
    5x120mm pitch circle
    14mm wheel nuts
    RE: Your Off road Post,excellent you hit the nail on the head
  • lowcruzrlowcruzr Member Posts: 8
    Thanks for the info. Sounds about right, but I'll try to cross reference it to make sure.

    "RE: Your Off road Post,excellent you hit the nail on the head "
    Was that directed at me, or a cut and paste from the other forum?
  • matt30matt30 Member Posts: 27
    "I'm so sick of reading posts bickering about how the Toy, Fronty, and Ridge do off roading. Who cares how they do!! When I had a well-used, 2 door, 4wd Tahoe, I used to go mudding on a weekly basis. But in all the years I was bogging/off-roading, I NEVER remember seeing a new $30k+ vehicle on the trails. If it was relatively new, it was clean and parked at the trail-head. Appearently the members of these boards are loaded if they can afford to take a new vehicle and subject it to mother natures worst.

    Who are they kidding?! Not Honda. Honda knows this and made a vehicle for what it will ACTUALLY be used for."

    You have to remember though that the trucks and SUVs of today will be the cheap off-roaders of tomorrow. Plus there are plenty of people who do minor off-raoding durring the weekend to get to the trail head (which can be like going through hell at some places) or there favorite camping spot through the trees and across the mud. Just because you don't care about using a 4wd vehicle for its intended purpose doesn't mean that its not important.
  • lowcruzrlowcruzr Member Posts: 8
    I couldn't agree more that todays trucks/SUVs are tomorrows cheap off-roaders. Jeep Liberty's will be a dime a dozen, most likely replacing the roll held by the Suzuki Samurai. But where our opinions differ is on the interpretation of "intended purpose". I feel the Ridge will not be the cheap off-roader of tomorrow, as hard-core 4 wheeling is not its true mission. If that path was in it's future, why aren't these same complaints expressed so openly on Pilot and CRV forums? After all, they are 4wd's too. And that seems to be the point of contention for many posting on these forums; the Ridge is not a mud bogging, rock crawler. Will it fill the roll you refer to above? Sure. So then what's all the commotion about?
  • shaggykidshaggykid Member Posts: 2
    Howdy
    Into my 3rd week with my green loaded Ridgeline, nav, moon 4x4- paid 33,300 from Chico Wittmeier auto-- experience was good, salesman Sean was helpful and excepted my offer quickly, should have talked them down more...-- Truck so far has been super- I use the Navigation it has been real helpful, at first I was sorry I had gotten it.. but the more I use it the happier I am that I got this model. I have had to carry a paper map though and use it as well.
  • once_for_allonce_for_all Member Posts: 1,640
    shaggy, Congratulations! Remember those of us that don't have a Ridge, your duty will be to keep us informed!

    Does the navigator provide precise GPS coordinates of your location?

    John
  • bart465bart465 Member Posts: 7
    Tell that to the last 30 winners of the Baja 1000. Ha!
  • once_for_allonce_for_all Member Posts: 1,640
    AWD is simply a superior way to propel a vehicle under any and all road conditions. Most efficient? No. Least Expensive? No. Most east to maintain? Again no.

    Off-roading is a different subject altogether. But, since Edmunds tested it off road and made specific inflammatory statements, they should explain more precisely what the Ridge's failures are.

    "Undercarriage groaning" isn't sufficient explanation.

    John
  • gearhead1gearhead1 Member Posts: 408
    "Undercarriage groaning" isn't sufficient explanation."

    I wonder if they turned VSC off which they should of done. Only VTM-4 lock should have been on. VSC could bog it down on a steep grade as I've heard from someone else's experience. They turned VSC off backed down the hill and egaged VTM-4 lock and all was fine on their next try.

    VTM-4 lock may just over ride VSC anyway, so I'm not sure.
  • moparbadmoparbad Member Posts: 3,870
    http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosconsumer/0504/13/G03-148767.htm
  • moparbadmoparbad Member Posts: 3,870
    Baja 1000 is racing. Inferring that IRS is better because highly modifed Baja racers use IRS is as logical as inferring formula one wings are great in Formula 1, so they should be installed on Civics and Accords.
  • bart465bart465 Member Posts: 7
    I just wish the Ridge was even more aerodynamic and could take advantage of the cylinder shut down technology. Make the bed 8 inches longer, put in a 4.2 V6 that produces 300 lb.-ft Torque, increase towing capacity to 7000 lbs, lighten the whole thing by 600 pounds and get 26 city/ 22 hwy. Is this too much to ask? Only for the 2005 model year! Think 1955 compared to 2005. Hey, moparbad...err Mercedes dude.. For any passenger car that goes over 60 MPH the car is the wing...its call aerodynamics. A lot of racing technology trickles down to the main stream eventually--a least on rice burners. Dude, you’re in the geometric center of the proverbial box! Consider the Lunar Rover, now there’s a racer!
  • moparbadmoparbad Member Posts: 3,870
    What is your favorite Ridgeline color?
    I like Steel Blue and second choice is Silver.
  • roaddog1roaddog1 Member Posts: 18
    I got the Steel Blue (only one on the lot) But I like it a lot. Honda seems to have topped it with a lot of clear coat and there's a lot of glitter from the metal flake in the paint mix. I'm not going to like it when the little scratches appear. Speaking of which I've ordered the rear splash guards. Now why did they put them on the front and not the back?
  • fsmmcsifsmmcsi Member Posts: 792
    She mentioned the lack of a telescoping steering column and adjustable pedals for women. Well, it is also an issue for taller guys, but in my case, I want to move the seat back, the pedals forward, and the steering wheel back so that I have space for my legs, but can reach the steering column without my arms being straight out. I am not super tall, so I suspect this may be an issue for many guys who are simply above average in height (6' 1", 34" inseam, 34" sleeve). The Ridgeline is not the only new vehicle which has this problem. Some have the power pedals and not the telescoping column, some have neither. I wonder if the manufacturers are just being cheap, or if they really do not know how many people like me sat in one, could not get comfortable, got out, and walked away?However, it should be easy for Honda to correct this oversight.

    I also agree that the Ridgeline would benefit greatly from a better engine - a 4.5 V8 would be nice, but a 3.5 diesel would be ideal.
  • shaggykidshaggykid Member Posts: 2
    Navigator is quite precise in location, a lot of times it states it is in unknown territory but another part kicks in and shows where you are and where you have to go in order to reach your destination. Have not been using paper map at all now. Truck drives smooth, I have heard a wind whistle from somewhere in the wind shield. I have already hauled stuff in the back bed area and scratches show up easily. I Love the second seating, lots of room
  • roaddog1roaddog1 Member Posts: 18
    I agree about the ergonomics. I'm 6'5" and resigned to driving with my arms outstreached. But the seat seems to be big enough to give thigh support. It's also large in the cushion and back rest. I turned down a Liberty because I thought I was sitting in a kiddy chair.
  • ecotrklvrecotrklvr Member Posts: 519
    Have you checked out the new Nissan Pathfinder? Upper level models have both telescoping and adjustable pedals. Best sit yet for me - I'm 6'4", sit like I'm 6'7", and 33" inseam.

    Oh, and you can get it without the moonroof.

    I want something lighter/smaller, so I'm in a Highlander now -waiting for 2006 Highlander or CR-V. Or stay and save the payment. Someday I might drive to the Nissan dealer and cave, though. The Altima is great for us too, but I need some hauling capacity.
  • gearhead1gearhead1 Member Posts: 408
    From newsargus.com:

    "All Ridgelines come with an all-wheel drive system that moves torque from front to back as needed. There is no low-range, but a button on the dashboard will lock in rear-wheel torque for tough situations.

    We discovered the benefit of this system on a 28-degree muddy off-road course. We locked in the torque to help climb the steep grade and the Ridgeline walked to the top of the hill without any sign of slippage."

    Unlike Edmunds on their second drive, the above reviewer had no problems. What's up Edmunds? Can't you guys drive?
  • varmintvarmint Member Posts: 6,326
    It would appear that newsargus.com tested the Ridgeline on the track Honda prepared specifically for the press. I'm not saying the track was not a good illustration of what the Ridgeline can do, but obviously Honda would not include a portion of the course where the Ridgeline could not go.

    Edmunds.com took the Ridgeline to a course which they had used for their previous testing with other pickups. Different course = different conditions. No two hills are the same. Furthermore, I've had days when my CR-V (yes, I've wheeled a CR-V) would make it over an obstacle, but I couldn't do the same trail weeks later. Trails get chewed up and things shift about.

    Chances are, the hill Edmunds had trouble with wasn't as steep as the one used by Honda, however it may have been more rocky, deeply rutted, or more slick. Unfortunately, the Edmunds review isn't very specific about what stopped them from (pardon the pun) making the grade. All we can do is speculate.

    Of course, you could be right about the driver. Maybe they forgot to disable VSA? Maybe the driver is new to off-roading? More speculation.

    All an owner really needs to know is that the Ridgeline is built for mild to moderate off-road use. That is a realistic goal for the kind of use it will see. Anything technical or aggressive is beyond the design of the truck, and the driver will have to compensate.
  • masawamasawa Member Posts: 2
    Having a long inseam myself 35" I have felt slightly cramped when sitting in the Ridgeline at the dealer. I am planning on a test drive this week and wonder how driving with my left leg bent at the knee for extended periods of time will factor into my decision to purchase this truck.

    Has anyone tried replacing the drivers side seat rails with slightly longer ones ( 1 or 2 inches)? I think 2 inches would make all the difference in the world.

    My final choices for a new truck are #1 Ridgeline #2 Frontier #3 Colorado... Anyone else making this decision?

    Thanks!!
  • masawamasawa Member Posts: 2
    On nytimes.com under the automobile section there is a review on the Ridgeline.
  • ridgeloverridgelover Member Posts: 2
    There have been some very interesting posts in regards to the Ridgeline and it's off road capabilities. I see posts about the test drives but nothing from owners who have taken their own Ridge off road. I have had my Ridge for a month and this past weekend took it out for some fun the desert. Others were amazed that I was even taking the truck off road. By the end of the day the Ridge had gained respect from some of the others. It performed quite well in some mild to moderate terrain. The deep sand and hill climbing was excellent. It definitely isn't made to be a rock climber but handle small rocks well. I did take a rock that was too big and luckily had the running boards that took the brunt of the rock so the painted body was undamaged. My biggest issue was that the Ridge is wider then most of the others, so the driver must compensate for that.

    Despite what anyone may say, as an owner that has put the truck through the paces I can say this is a real truck! It isn't your heavy duty farm/work truck but is a very capable midsize truck. It has a passenger compartment the works for taking clients out during the week and then on the weekend can haul my Home Depot loads, and as this past weekend proved to me, it can really be a lot of fun off road as well.

    Thank God there are as many choices of vehicles as there are personalities and we can all find a truck that we can consider the best for our particular needs. For me the Ridgeline definitely fits my needs.

    Would like to see other postings from Ridge owners that have taken their trucks off road.
  • varmintvarmint Member Posts: 6,326
    Oh yeah, absolutely. It sounds like you were doing mild to moderate stuff with your Ridgeline - and that is exactly what Honda designed it for. I'm sure it would tackle that just fine.

    There's also a big difference in terms of terrain. A design that works on rocks isn't going to do as well when you hit mud or sand. But a rig designed for mud isn't going to get very far over rocks.
  • ridgeloverridgelover Member Posts: 2
    Thanks, you are right on the performace of the truck. I too was able to hold a comfortable conversation and not bounce the passengers around like in my previous 4X4. At the same time it handled the rough terrain like a champ. It's good to see another Ridgeline owner really making use of the trucks capabilities.
  • KCRamKCRam Member Posts: 3,516
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  • gearhead1gearhead1 Member Posts: 408
    I wish more people would post about their experiences off road as well.
  • rbrooksrbrooks Member Posts: 1
    Can anyone suggest an after market bluetooth kit for an RTL NAVI? I am hoping that it could use the mic for the NAVI. Where would I go to get one installed? My Honda already said no.
  • moletwinsmoletwins Member Posts: 1
    My wife and I test-drove the Ridgeline this past weekend and I have to say I was impressed with the handling and innovation. It really handled more like my wife's Highlander than any Pickup I've ridden in. I've read a lot of statistics on these posts about the vehicles handling and towing capacity, but I was wondering if anyone could share their real-world experience towing a travel trailer with the Ridgeline. We have a 22ft Hybrid Travel Trailer, that when fully loaded (Propane, water, options etc.) tops out at about 4,200 - 4,300 pounds. Has anyone pulled a similar trailer w/ the Ridgeline, 2 adults and a kid in the back-seat? How did it do?

    We are primarily going to be using our next SUV/Pickup in the Midwest on occasional trips with the camper and want something that's refined enough for every day driving too. Honestly, my wife and I love the Pilot, but, going by the numbers, it's a bit short on capacity.

    I'd really appreciate hearing how you've done towing. One other question. I read that you're not supposed to use a WD hitch with the Ridgline. Is that right?

    Thanks!
  • thegraduatethegraduate Member Posts: 9,731
    Aren't many Dodge Rams made in Mexico, and many F-Series pickups made in Canada?

    I don't doubt it, I just used the ones I knew of. Thanks for the extra info.

    thegrad
  • dadoftaydadoftay Member Posts: 136
    Last weekend I had a chance to go to the Auto Show in Atlanta. All you Ridge owners be proud, I went early Sunday morning (yes, I'm a heathen) and the crowd around the Ridge had to be making Honda smile. Seemed everyone wanted to see Honda make a pick-'em-up truck. I stand by my first post, it ain't the end all tell all, but it's going to turn the truck world on it's ear.
  • gearhead1gearhead1 Member Posts: 408
    "it ain't the end all tell all, but it's going to turn the truck world on it's ear."

    I would tend to agree.
  • whaleyawhaleya Member Posts: 28
    If you want to routinely tow a trailer that weighs 4200 lbs don't get the Ridgeline, you need a full size truck or SUV. (derate max tow ratings by 1/3 for a good estimate on capacity for frequent towing for any truck).

    The Ridgeline does not have the engine torque nor the capacity in the rear suspension for frequent towing at the max (no truck does). It can tow 5000 lbs for a rare Uhaul move, but every weekend camping you need something with a higher tow capacity.

    I tow a 2600 lb pop-up camper and it's GREAT with my Ridgeline.
  • sevenasevena Member Posts: 1
    Hi everyone, I've had my Ridgeline for almost a month and love it. I've been trying to figure out how to set up the auto door unlock that will unlock all doors when shifted to park. I've done everything that the manual says but only the drivers door will unlock. The dealership says they'll research it. Has anyone had this issue or any suggestions.
    thanks
  • drthurgooddrthurgood Member Posts: 1
    What has everyone been paying?
    I love the rig. Seems to have all the truck/car features i am looking for. Just dont want to get hammered at the dealership.
    Thanks

    drthurgood
  • chuck999chuck999 Member Posts: 38
    Wife has MDX which I LOVE to drive. Waited FOREVER for Ridgeline to come out - plan was to buy ASAP.

    Why? I carry kayaks and muddy mountain bikes. (Not motorcycles) Wanted to toss on a ladder type rack and a crossbar style bike rack. When I went to look a the Ridgeline I was trying to figure out how to do this with the nonstandard bed and available roof rack ...

    Then the dealer spoke:
    "Yep, this truck was PERFECTLY designed to haul ATV's and motorcycles" ....
    I realized that he was EXACTLY RIGHT ....
    The Ridge is great for those, and for loading bags and rocks and mulch ...

    But it seems to me that the design engineers didn't even consider full sized kayaks (roof rack only holds 110 lbs) or mountain bikes .... A truck this size really should be able to carry 4 people AND 4 bikes OR 4 kayaks. Not TWO. I guess that with a bed cap and a good solid rack on the top of that I might have gotten Ridge to work for me .... maybe. But cap is going to cost at least $1500 to $2k ...

    Got TUNDRA 4WD TRD V8 Access Cab for $26,000 + TTL (way less then cheapest RT). AND it came with a tow hitch installed, fog lights and a STANDARD 6 Foot bed.

    One thing that really bothered me was that the Ridge you've got to pay your DEALER to take apart your front end for fogs and to take apart your dash for the tow hitch wiring ...

    Don't get me wrong, I really really liked the safety features in the Ridgeline, esp the VTM-4 AWD system, VSA, and Side airbags. Trunk was way cool. Back seats have great legroom (but Tundra's seats are a little more comfy) .... I also liked the ride of the Ridge, but to be honest it is NOT head and shoulders above the Tundra. A little smoother and not really as quiet on the highway ... And the Ridge is powerful - but not V8 powerful .... (Acually the MDX moves out faster as well ...). And although it looks huge, the Tundra is really a little narrower than the ridgeline and just a foot or two longer. As for gas mileage - the MDX gets about 14-16 around town, so I'd be surprised if the Ridge was much better (hopefully I'm wrong). The Tundra gets 14-16 around town also ...

    So from my experience, I'd have to say to REALLY think very carefully about what you want to do with this truck. The Ridge is a GREAT truck - no doubt. But the bed is somewhat nonstandard, and if you want to haul your human powered outdoor stuff it will probably be a while before the right racks and attachments are available .....

    The Tundra, the Taco and the Frontier are all worthy competitors - each with something to offer. And the new Frontier can be ordered with VSA and SAB also. If the Ridge has what you need - then go for it. I'm actually very disappointed that I couldn't get it to work for me ....

    My advice to the Honda engineers would be to study the bed in the Frontier (with utili-track). With a few modifications (Stake pockets, longer horizontal metal sections) the Ridge bed could be better. And for gosh sake - put on the Tow Hitches, Harnesses and the Fogs at the FACTORY ...

    Good luck with your Ridgelines ..... I'm out of this forum ...
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