Fusion Energi 2016 lease deal

loboco23

Is this a good deal in California?

cap cost: 35,825
rebate: 6,257
out of pocket:0
residual:15,404.75 (43%)
annual miles: 18k
money factor: .25
security deposit: 0
monthly payment: 392.18
acquisition fee: 645

kyfdx

loboco23 said:

Is this a good deal in California?

cap cost: 35,825
rebate: 6,257
out of pocket:0
residual:15,404.75 (43%)
annual miles: 18k
money factor: .25
security deposit: 0
monthly payment: 392.18
acquisition fee: 645

What is the MSRP?

loboco23

New Deal in California

MSRP 35,825
Discount 2,839.82
Gross CAP 32,985.18
Doc Prep Fee 80
Acq Fee 645
Tax on collected Items 469.19
Cap Initial Fee 392.18
Adjusted Cap 34,57.55
Rebate 6,257
Net CAP 28,314.55

Payment 363.13 plus tax 29.05 = 392.18
Due on Delivery 0
Rate .25
Miles 18,000
Residual 45-2 = 43%
Residual Amount 15,404.75

Thanks

Michaell

loboco23 said:

New Deal in California

MSRP 35,825
Discount 2,839.82
Gross CAP 32,985.18
Doc Prep Fee 80
Acq Fee 645
Tax on collected Items 469.19
Cap Initial Fee 392.18
Adjusted Cap 34,57.55
Rebate 6,257
Net CAP 28,314.55

Payment 363.13 plus tax 29.05 = 392.18
Due on Delivery 0
Rate .25
Miles 18,000
Residual 45-2 = 43%
Residual Amount 15,404.75

Thanks

I'm within a $1 or so of those numbers, so the deal looks solid. Only way to improve on it is to get a bigger discount from sticker before applying the fees and rebates.

loboco23

Do you know if Ford is offering an "Early Bird" lease turn in deal starting Jan 1st? I was told during my lease negotiations that I could turn in my Ford Focus lease which expires April 8 2016. However after negotiating a lease deal and contacting the dealer today, I was told Ford currently doesn't offer the "Early Bird" deal on the Ford Focus.

kyfdx

loboco23 said:

Do you know if Ford is offering an "Early Bird" lease turn in deal starting Jan 1st? I was told during my lease negotiations that I could turn in my Ford Focus lease which expires April 8 2016. However after negotiating a lease deal and contacting the dealer today, I was told Ford currently doesn't offer the "Early Bird" deal on the Ford Focus.

We don't have any information on that.

ec1

Do you have residual, money factor and lease cash for 2015 and 2016 fusion energi titanium 15k miles per year in TN?

kyfdx

ec1 said:

Do you have residual, money factor and lease cash for 2015 and 2016 fusion energi titanium 15k miles per year in TN?

36 months

2016: 0.25% APR and 44% residual. $6257 lease cash.
2015: 0.25% APR and 38% residual. $8757 lease cash.

maudlin2001

Found a 2015 Energi Titanium in Florida, can you please provide the MF and Residual?

RCL Customer Cash Program #50348: $8,757
Program #12850: Amount $2,000

I have Toyota Camry Hybrid Lease now, is there a Competitive Bonus or any other available?

Does anyone know how much below MSRP are dealers coming down to in Florida? I just got a quote without breakup of 1339 due at sign & monthly 378+tax --36Month-12K, This cant be right for a 2015? MSRP is 39650 with destination included

kyfdx

maudlin2001 said:

Found a 2015 Energi Titanium in Florida, can you please provide the MF and Residual?

RCL Customer Cash Program #50348: $8,757
Program #12850: Amount $2,000

I have Toyota Camry Hybrid Lease now, is there a Competitive Bonus or any other available?

Does anyone know how much below MSRP are dealers coming down to in Florida? I just got a quote without breakup of 1339 due at sign & monthly 378+tax --36Month-12K, This cant be right for a 2015? MSRP is 39650 with destination included

0.25% APR and 40% residual for 36 mo, 12K/yr. $8757 lease cash

maudlin2001

Thanks. I just got the quote and they are running it a 1.75% APR, which matches what the ford website numbers calculate down to. Is this usually negotiable? I have top line credit.

How much below MSRP can I expect for a 2015 model.

kyfdx said:

maudlin2001 said:

Found a 2015 Energi Titanium in Florida, can you please provide the MF and Residual?

RCL Customer Cash Program #50348: $8,757
Program #12850: Amount $2,000

I have Toyota Camry Hybrid Lease now, is there a Competitive Bonus or any other available?

Does anyone know how much below MSRP are dealers coming down to in Florida? I just got a quote without breakup of 1339 due at sign & monthly 378+tax --36Month-12K, This cant be right for a 2015? MSRP is 39650 with destination included

0.25% APR and 40% residual for 36 mo, 12K/yr. $8757 lease cash

Michaell

maudlin2001 said:

Thanks. I just got the quote and they are running it a 1.75% APR, which matches what the ford website numbers calculate down to. Is this usually negotiable? I have top line credit.

How much below MSRP can I expect for a 2015 model.

kyfdx said:

maudlin2001 said:

Found a 2015 Energi Titanium in Florida, can you please provide the MF and Residual?

RCL Customer Cash Program #50348: $8,757
Program #12850: Amount $2,000

I have Toyota Camry Hybrid Lease now, is there a Competitive Bonus or any other available?

Does anyone know how much below MSRP are dealers coming down to in Florida? I just got a quote without breakup of 1339 due at sign & monthly 378+tax --36Month-12K, This cant be right for a 2015? MSRP is 39650 with destination included

0.25% APR and 40% residual for 36 mo, 12K/yr. $8757 lease cash

Dealer can mark up the MF for extra profit; the numbers we quote are for top line credit.

We don't track selling prices - use the "make / model / year" pull downs at the top of the page to link to the price tools.

maudlin2001

Thanks Michaell.

maudlin2001

I just got an offer on a 2015 Energi SE Luxury just Nav option.

MSRP $36,320
Total Fees with Wear/tear protection plan $2,200.00
Rebates (including conquest) -$11,007.00
Discount on MSRP offered -$2,536.00
Adjusted Cost $24,977.00
End of Lease Buyout (40%) $14,528.00
Base Rental (3yr 36K, 0.25% APR) $11,232.97
36 payments $295 + Tax

I was asking for extra $1200 discount for $260 + Tax.... was it too much to ask for a 2015 model last car on lot?
The guy hung up on me very frustrated.

kyfdx

maudlin2001 said:

I just got an offer on a 2015 Energi SE Luxury just Nav option.

MSRP $36,320
Total Fees with Wear/tear protection plan $2,200.00
Rebates (including conquest) -$11,007.00
Discount on MSRP offered -$2,536.00
Adjusted Cost $24,977.00
End of Lease Buyout (40%) $14,528.00
Base Rental (3yr 36K, 0.25% APR) $11,232.97
36 payments $295 + Tax

I was asking for extra $1200 discount for $260 + Tax.... was it too much to ask for a 2015 model last car on lot?
The guy hung up on me very frustrated.

I guess it was too much to ask for that guy.

maudlin2001

apparently he may be close to what the lowest they would go because another dealer gave me almost exact price as rock bottom.

Not only does southeast never have best rebates ($3000 more in north east) the dealers here are so spoilt. I wish there was a way the northeast Dealers would allow the $3K extra rebate to Florida residents

ec1

maudlin2001, I ended up leasing a 2016 fusion energi recently - but noted the larger chains (i.e. Autonation dealers) advertise 2015 models at significant discounts - I wonder if the larger chains may be more willing to take a smaller profit (or loss) to move older product. Also, I found the difference in residuals from 2015 and 2016 models can make the payments somewhat similar, assuming you can get a significant discount. My guess is wear and tear insurance is not a good value. Great car - combined with fuel savings turns out to be a nice value. Good luck.

maudlin2001

Congrats ec1.

I have a final quote on a 2015 Energi SE (36K MSRP) for 35 payments of $309 with wear and tear included with lease end buyout of 14.5K. Going to pick up this week.

I like the idea that they take care of tires and stains dings, which I read some horror stories on how Southeast Toyota treats you in you dont stay with them after the lease.

maudlin2001

Just wanted to let everyone know that I did infact get the 2015 Energi SE (36K MSRP) for 35 payments of $305 with excess wear and tear included. Thanks for your help Michaell and kyfdx.

Anybody has an opinion on the residual of 14.5K for a 36K MSRP car in 3 years? I think it does open up a great option for me to buy the car after three years if gas prices go back up which should improve the residual.

Michaell

maudlin2001 said:

Just wanted to let everyone know that I did infact get the 2015 Energi SE (36K MSRP) for 35 payments of $305 with excess wear and tear included. Thanks for your help Michaell and kyfdx.

Anybody has an opinion on the residual of 14.5K for a 36K MSRP car in 3 years? I think it does open up a great option for me to buy the car after three years if gas prices go back up which should improve the residual.

The residual is the residual .. fixed by the bank.

Now, the value of the car may be higher at the end of the lease if, as you hope, gas prices go up.

You'll still be able to buy the car for the agreed upon residual value.

maudlin2001

Michaell said:

maudlin2001 said:

Just wanted to let everyone know that I did infact get the 2015 Energi SE (36K MSRP) for 35 payments of $305 with excess wear and tear included. Thanks for your help Michaell and kyfdx.

Anybody has an opinion on the residual of 14.5K for a 36K MSRP car in 3 years? I think it does open up a great option for me to buy the car after three years if gas prices go back up which should improve the residual.

The residual is the residual .. fixed by the bank.

Now, the value of the car may be higher at the end of the lease if, as you hope, gas prices go up.

You'll still be able to buy the car for the agreed upon residual value.

Oops yes, I meant the market value or car being much higher than the lease end purchase price.

woolooloo

Do you know the MF and RV on the 2016 Fusion Energi Titanium? 36/12 and 36/10.5, thank you. $9007 lease cash makes it seem pretty attractive.

Also, could you tell me the Ford Finance acquisition fee? thanks

Michaell

woolooloo said:

Do you know the MF and RV on the 2016 Fusion Energi Titanium? 36/12 and 36/10.5, thank you. $9007 lease cash makes it seem pretty attractive.

Also, could you tell me the Ford Finance acquisition fee? thanks

45% / 46% and .50%.

The big lease cash is offset by the dismal residual value.

ec1

Michaell, Do you have 24mo/15K and 36mo/15K residual and money factor of a 2016 Fusion Energi SE and Titanium?

kyfdx

ec1 said:

Michaell, Do you have 24mo/15K and 36mo/15K residual and money factor of a 2016 Fusion Energi SE and Titanium?

48%/40% for either trim.

Which state for MF?

ec1

TN - Do you have similar numbers for a 2017? Thanks,

kyfdx

ec1 said:

TN - Do you have similar numbers for a 2017? Thanks,

2016 APR: 2.75% for 24, 0.50% for 36

2017:
3.00% APR and 51% residual
2.50% APR and 42% residual

Either trim.

straightdope

Is the MF and RV the same for the 2016 Fusion ENERGI SE & Fusion ENREGI Titanium in July in SoCalifornia?
50%?
Thanks

kyfdx

straightdope said:

Is the MF and RV the same for the 2016 Fusion ENERGI SE & Fusion ENREGI Titanium in July in SoCalifornia?
50%?
Thanks

What term and mileage?
Titanium and SE do have the same residuals.

straightdope

36 months 10k miles: MF and RV for the 2016 Fusion ENERGI SE & Fusion ENREGI Titanium in July in SoCalifornia,
Thanks for this and the other answers in other forums.

Michaell

straightdope said:

36 months 10k miles: MF and RV for the 2016 Fusion ENERGI SE & Fusion ENREGI Titanium in July in SoCalifornia,
Thanks for this and the other answers in other forums.

43% and .25% for both trims.

urb

Could you tell me what MF and RV for the 2016 Fusion ENERGI SE & Fusion ENREGI Titanium are for 36/12k in MA?

Thanks!

Michaell

urb said:

Could you tell me what MF and RV for the 2016 Fusion ENERGI SE & Fusion ENREGI Titanium are for 36/12k in MA?

Thanks!

42% and .75%. $9757 lease cash

haillatu

Hello,

Can you please share the MF, RV and Incentives for Fusion Energi SE & Titanium for 36/12k and 36/15k in VA?

Thank you!

kyfdx

haillatu said:

Hello,

Can you please share the MF, RV and Incentives for Fusion Energi SE & Titanium for 36/12k and 36/15k in VA?

Thank you!

0.50% APR and $9257 lease cash (the lease cash may vary).

Unfortunately, we don't yet have the 4th quarter residuals.

haillatu

kyfdx said:

haillatu said:

Hello,

Can you please share the MF, RV and Incentives for Fusion Energi SE & Titanium for 36/12k and 36/15k in VA?

Thank you!

0.50% APR and $9257 lease cash (the lease cash may vary).

Unfortunately, we don't yet have the 4th quarter residuals.

Thank you!

kyfdx

haillatu said:

kyfdx said:

haillatu said:

Hello,

Can you please share the MF, RV and Incentives for Fusion Energi SE & Titanium for 36/12k and 36/15k in VA?

Thank you!

0.50% APR and $9257 lease cash (the lease cash may vary).

Unfortunately, we don't yet have the 4th quarter residuals.

Thank you!

40%/38% residual for 12K/15K for either model.