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Fusion Energi 2016 lease deal

loboco23loboco23 Posts: 12
edited December 2015 in Ford
Is this a good deal in California?

cap cost: 35,825
rebate: 6,257
out of pocket:0
residual:15,404.75 (43%)
annual miles: 18k
money factor: .25
security deposit: 0
monthly payment: 392.18
acquisition fee: 645
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  • kyfdxkyfdx Everywhere, USAPosts: 123,000
    loboco23 said:

    Is this a good deal in California?

    cap cost: 35,825
    rebate: 6,257
    out of pocket:0
    residual:15,404.75 (43%)
    annual miles: 18k
    money factor: .25
    security deposit: 0
    monthly payment: 392.18
    acquisition fee: 645

    What is the MSRP?

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  • loboco23loboco23 Posts: 12
    edited December 2015
    New Deal in California

    MSRP 35,825
    Discount 2,839.82
    Gross CAP 32,985.18
    Doc Prep Fee 80
    Acq Fee 645
    Tax on collected Items 469.19
    Cap Initial Fee 392.18
    Adjusted Cap 34,57.55
    Rebate 6,257
    Net CAP 28,314.55

    Payment 363.13 plus tax 29.05 = 392.18
    Due on Delivery 0
    Rate .25
    Miles 18,000
    Residual 45-2 = 43%
    Residual Amount 15,404.75

    Thanks
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 114,562
    loboco23 said:

    New Deal in California

    MSRP 35,825
    Discount 2,839.82
    Gross CAP 32,985.18
    Doc Prep Fee 80
    Acq Fee 645
    Tax on collected Items 469.19
    Cap Initial Fee 392.18
    Adjusted Cap 34,57.55
    Rebate 6,257
    Net CAP 28,314.55

    Payment 363.13 plus tax 29.05 = 392.18
    Due on Delivery 0
    Rate .25
    Miles 18,000
    Residual 45-2 = 43%
    Residual Amount 15,404.75

    Thanks

    I'm within a $1 or so of those numbers, so the deal looks solid. Only way to improve on it is to get a bigger discount from sticker before applying the fees and rebates.

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  • Do you know if Ford is offering an "Early Bird" lease turn in deal starting Jan 1st? I was told during my lease negotiations that I could turn in my Ford Focus lease which expires April 8 2016. However after negotiating a lease deal and contacting the dealer today, I was told Ford currently doesn't offer the "Early Bird" deal on the Ford Focus.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Everywhere, USAPosts: 123,000
    loboco23 said:

    Do you know if Ford is offering an "Early Bird" lease turn in deal starting Jan 1st? I was told during my lease negotiations that I could turn in my Ford Focus lease which expires April 8 2016. However after negotiating a lease deal and contacting the dealer today, I was told Ford currently doesn't offer the "Early Bird" deal on the Ford Focus.

    We don't have any information on that.

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  • ec1ec1 Posts: 57
    Do you have residual, money factor and lease cash for 2015 and 2016 fusion energi titanium 15k miles per year in TN?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Everywhere, USAPosts: 123,000
    ec1 said:

    Do you have residual, money factor and lease cash for 2015 and 2016 fusion energi titanium 15k miles per year in TN?

    36 months

    2016: 0.25% APR and 44% residual. $6257 lease cash.
    2015: 0.25% APR and 38% residual. $8757 lease cash.

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  • maudlin2001maudlin2001 Posts: 37
    edited March 2016
    Found a 2015 Energi Titanium in Florida, can you please provide the MF and Residual?

    RCL Customer Cash Program #50348: $8,757
    Program #12850: Amount $2,000

    I have Toyota Camry Hybrid Lease now, is there a Competitive Bonus or any other available?

    Does anyone know how much below MSRP are dealers coming down to in Florida? I just got a quote without breakup of 1339 due at sign & monthly 378+tax --36Month-12K, This cant be right for a 2015? MSRP is 39650 with destination included
  • kyfdxkyfdx Everywhere, USAPosts: 123,000

    Found a 2015 Energi Titanium in Florida, can you please provide the MF and Residual?

    RCL Customer Cash Program #50348: $8,757
    Program #12850: Amount $2,000

    I have Toyota Camry Hybrid Lease now, is there a Competitive Bonus or any other available?

    Does anyone know how much below MSRP are dealers coming down to in Florida? I just got a quote without breakup of 1339 due at sign & monthly 378+tax --36Month-12K, This cant be right for a 2015? MSRP is 39650 with destination included

    0.25% APR and 40% residual for 36 mo, 12K/yr. $8757 lease cash

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  • Thanks. I just got the quote and they are running it a 1.75% APR, which matches what the ford website numbers calculate down to. Is this usually negotiable? I have top line credit.

    How much below MSRP can I expect for a 2015 model.
    kyfdx said:

    Found a 2015 Energi Titanium in Florida, can you please provide the MF and Residual?

    RCL Customer Cash Program #50348: $8,757
    Program #12850: Amount $2,000

    I have Toyota Camry Hybrid Lease now, is there a Competitive Bonus or any other available?

    Does anyone know how much below MSRP are dealers coming down to in Florida? I just got a quote without breakup of 1339 due at sign & monthly 378+tax --36Month-12K, This cant be right for a 2015? MSRP is 39650 with destination included

    0.25% APR and 40% residual for 36 mo, 12K/yr. $8757 lease cash
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 114,562

    Thanks. I just got the quote and they are running it a 1.75% APR, which matches what the ford website numbers calculate down to. Is this usually negotiable? I have top line credit.

    How much below MSRP can I expect for a 2015 model.

    kyfdx said:

    Found a 2015 Energi Titanium in Florida, can you please provide the MF and Residual?

    RCL Customer Cash Program #50348: $8,757
    Program #12850: Amount $2,000

    I have Toyota Camry Hybrid Lease now, is there a Competitive Bonus or any other available?

    Does anyone know how much below MSRP are dealers coming down to in Florida? I just got a quote without breakup of 1339 due at sign & monthly 378+tax --36Month-12K, This cant be right for a 2015? MSRP is 39650 with destination included

    0.25% APR and 40% residual for 36 mo, 12K/yr. $8757 lease cash
    Dealer can mark up the MF for extra profit; the numbers we quote are for top line credit.

    We don't track selling prices - use the "make / model / year" pull downs at the top of the page to link to the price tools.

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  • Thanks Michaell.
  • I just got an offer on a 2015 Energi SE Luxury just Nav option.

    MSRP $36,320
    Total Fees with Wear/tear protection plan $2,200.00
    Rebates (including conquest) -$11,007.00
    Discount on MSRP offered -$2,536.00
    Adjusted Cost $24,977.00
    End of Lease Buyout (40%) $14,528.00
    Base Rental (3yr 36K, 0.25% APR) $11,232.97
    36 payments $295 + Tax

    I was asking for extra $1200 discount for $260 + Tax.... was it too much to ask for a 2015 model last car on lot?
    The guy hung up on me very frustrated.

  • kyfdxkyfdx Everywhere, USAPosts: 123,000

    I just got an offer on a 2015 Energi SE Luxury just Nav option.

    MSRP $36,320
    Total Fees with Wear/tear protection plan $2,200.00
    Rebates (including conquest) -$11,007.00
    Discount on MSRP offered -$2,536.00
    Adjusted Cost $24,977.00
    End of Lease Buyout (40%) $14,528.00
    Base Rental (3yr 36K, 0.25% APR) $11,232.97
    36 payments $295 + Tax

    I was asking for extra $1200 discount for $260 + Tax.... was it too much to ask for a 2015 model last car on lot?
    The guy hung up on me very frustrated.

    I guess it was too much to ask for that guy.

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  • apparently he may be close to what the lowest they would go because another dealer gave me almost exact price as rock bottom.

    Not only does southeast never have best rebates ($3000 more in north east) the dealers here are so spoilt. I wish there was a way the northeast Dealers would allow the $3K extra rebate to Florida residents
  • ec1ec1 Posts: 57
    maudlin2001, I ended up leasing a 2016 fusion energi recently - but noted the larger chains (i.e. Autonation dealers) advertise 2015 models at significant discounts - I wonder if the larger chains may be more willing to take a smaller profit (or loss) to move older product. Also, I found the difference in residuals from 2015 and 2016 models can make the payments somewhat similar, assuming you can get a significant discount. My guess is wear and tear insurance is not a good value. Great car - combined with fuel savings turns out to be a nice value. Good luck.
  • Congrats ec1.

    I have a final quote on a 2015 Energi SE (36K MSRP) for 35 payments of $309 with wear and tear included with lease end buyout of 14.5K. Going to pick up this week.

    I like the idea that they take care of tires and stains dings, which I read some horror stories on how Southeast Toyota treats you in you dont stay with them after the lease.
  • Just wanted to let everyone know that I did infact get the 2015 Energi SE (36K MSRP) for 35 payments of $305 with excess wear and tear included. Thanks for your help Michaell and kyfdx.

    Anybody has an opinion on the residual of 14.5K for a 36K MSRP car in 3 years? I think it does open up a great option for me to buy the car after three years if gas prices go back up which should improve the residual.
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 114,562

    Just wanted to let everyone know that I did infact get the 2015 Energi SE (36K MSRP) for 35 payments of $305 with excess wear and tear included. Thanks for your help Michaell and kyfdx.

    Anybody has an opinion on the residual of 14.5K for a 36K MSRP car in 3 years? I think it does open up a great option for me to buy the car after three years if gas prices go back up which should improve the residual.

    The residual is the residual .. fixed by the bank.

    Now, the value of the car may be higher at the end of the lease if, as you hope, gas prices go up.

    You'll still be able to buy the car for the agreed upon residual value.

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  • Michaell said:

    Just wanted to let everyone know that I did infact get the 2015 Energi SE (36K MSRP) for 35 payments of $305 with excess wear and tear included. Thanks for your help Michaell and kyfdx.

    Anybody has an opinion on the residual of 14.5K for a 36K MSRP car in 3 years? I think it does open up a great option for me to buy the car after three years if gas prices go back up which should improve the residual.

    The residual is the residual .. fixed by the bank.

    Now, the value of the car may be higher at the end of the lease if, as you hope, gas prices go up.

    You'll still be able to buy the car for the agreed upon residual value.
    Oops yes, I meant the market value or car being much higher than the lease end purchase price.
  • woolooloowoolooloo Posts: 42
    edited June 2016
    Do you know the MF and RV on the 2016 Fusion Energi Titanium? 36/12 and 36/10.5, thank you. $9007 lease cash makes it seem pretty attractive.

    Also, could you tell me the Ford Finance acquisition fee? thanks
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 114,562
    woolooloo said:

    Do you know the MF and RV on the 2016 Fusion Energi Titanium? 36/12 and 36/10.5, thank you. $9007 lease cash makes it seem pretty attractive.

    Also, could you tell me the Ford Finance acquisition fee? thanks

    45% / 46% and .50%.

    The big lease cash is offset by the dismal residual value.

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  • ec1ec1 Posts: 57
    Michaell, Do you have 24mo/15K and 36mo/15K residual and money factor of a 2016 Fusion Energi SE and Titanium?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Everywhere, USAPosts: 123,000
    ec1 said:

    Michaell, Do you have 24mo/15K and 36mo/15K residual and money factor of a 2016 Fusion Energi SE and Titanium?

    48%/40% for either trim.

    Which state for MF?

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  • ec1ec1 Posts: 57
    TN - Do you have similar numbers for a 2017? Thanks,
  • kyfdxkyfdx Everywhere, USAPosts: 123,000
    ec1 said:

    TN - Do you have similar numbers for a 2017? Thanks,

    2016 APR: 2.75% for 24, 0.50% for 36

    2017:
    3.00% APR and 51% residual
    2.50% APR and 42% residual

    Either trim.

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  • Is the MF and RV the same for the 2016 Fusion ENERGI SE & Fusion ENREGI Titanium in July in SoCalifornia?
    50%?
    Thanks
  • kyfdxkyfdx Everywhere, USAPosts: 123,000

    Is the MF and RV the same for the 2016 Fusion ENERGI SE & Fusion ENREGI Titanium in July in SoCalifornia?
    50%?
    Thanks

    What term and mileage?
    Titanium and SE do have the same residuals.

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  • 36 months 10k miles: MF and RV for the 2016 Fusion ENERGI SE & Fusion ENREGI Titanium in July in SoCalifornia,
    Thanks for this and the other answers in other forums.
  • MichaellMichaell ColoradoPosts: 114,562

    36 months 10k miles: MF and RV for the 2016 Fusion ENERGI SE & Fusion ENREGI Titanium in July in SoCalifornia,
    Thanks for this and the other answers in other forums.

    43% and .25% for both trims.

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