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For you, the 0% for up to 36 sounds interesting. I'd be more apt to go for that but I guess it depends on whatthe monthly payments are.
Just wait 'em out.
0% for 36
1.9% for 48
2.9% for 60
We went with the 1.9% for 48.
Hope this helps.
Jetta S Automatic $19700 OTD. In florida there is a 6.5% sales tax plus about $150 dollars of govt. reg fees, but I just paid attention to the OTD price nothing else.
Let me know what you guys think?
So anyways, they go through the usual banter, she has pretty good credit(650+), no high debt, etc. Told them the credit union will do ~4.2% intrest for 72 0 down.. so they seem cool until they bring out the numbers... apparently, ALL the jettas here in OR go for MSRP + AMV and no one ever complains(ya right)... then they sling up a lease for 2000 down, 48mo, 500/mo.... 10k residual or a possible 26k loan apparently the current rate is 10%, for 60mo 600/mo. geez. Oh yeah, Jetta SE Auto.
So i tell them those are rediculous prices which don't matter since we arent' buying for a couple days and well... i don't think i'll go back there anymore. If anyone knows a good, fair dealership in the Portland metro area in OR for Volkswagon, hit me up. I'm not putting names or anything, but this is rediculous. I got my Acura TSX for under MSRP and i didn't have to kill anyone. This dealership is too proud of their merchandise, and I want her to have a good experience.
It's perfectly legit to name the dealer - Edmunds prefers we don't talk about actual sales people.
You're right - there is a sense among certain VW dealers that they are dealing in precious metal. Nobody in their right mind pays over MSRP for any of these cars....can't speak to financing, because I don't finance cars [always pay cash].
You can also get some good ideas through Costco's buying program [if you happen to be a Costco member], and through a buying site like CarsDirect. These help you cut through the baloney to get to someone who is serious about selling the car.
You could get a loaded A4 for less. Or a loaded 3 series for that.
No wonder VW's dealer network is consistently railed.
Thanks.
They are having trouble moving these cars.
It drove decently, but I thought the backseat was very spartan, and the center stack trim (around the radio) was tacky, and the climate control dials were cheap feeling - other than that, the interior was well done and constructed.
For the heck of it, I haggled with the salesperson. The car I tested stickered just over 20k (I think it was $20,680 or something).
They offered to sell it to me for $18,300 plus TTL.
I told them I would get back to them. I'm not sure I'm interested at this point as the fuel economy is pretty bad and their are a TON of new car deals that are amazing that are being rolled out now as the economy tanks - I can buy a Nissan Pathfinder 4x4 for 17,200 brand new at a dealer in South Carolina that had a MSRP of 29,900. And the gas mileage isn't that much worse than the Jetta - yes, I am serious.
TTT...this is about 500.00 above invoice and since i counted atleast 50 to 60 jetta's on the lot with nobody around to purchase them i should try and shoot for the invoice price which is 16,100.00......on the other hand,i will be tradeing in a 07 honda civic coupe with auto and about 5000 miles on the clock....girlfriend is expecting a baby next month so we need something that is bigger and safer and the jetta would fit the bill nicely......however,like the other poster mentioned the fuel economy isn't the best in this class......
Worse mileage, though...
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I've begun to see ads for Jetta SE models for around 14k.
In fact, there's a dealer that does not play games that just placed an ad in the St. Louis Dispatch newspaper advertising new Jetta Wolfsburg Automatics for $15,300 plus TTL, and yes, that's with the 2.0T.
They have the Rabbit for $13,400.
I'm starting to see more and more of this as the auto market weakens. Don't even get me started about Nissan. They are having a fire sale.
No way they are selling it for $15,300....
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No way they are selling it for $15,300....
It's a little shady on the dealer's part, but you have to add $2,000 to the listed price up top. They have it $13,400 roughly.
But anyways, that's not the only dealer advertising for right around there. Most of them just list it at between 15k and 16k.
I was wrong about the Rabbit. It's $13,900, not $13,300.
http://www.suntrupvw.com/MiscPage_3?siteMapItemName=468494508DB4100480480003BA77- 890F
1) The price is after a customer $2000 downpayment
2) Assumes $500 customer loyalty bonus
3) Tries to pass off the Jetta SE as "formerly known as Wolfsburg edition". It may be similar to the '07 Wolfsburg, because that model had the 5-cylinder engine.. The '08 Wolfsburg has a turbo and is $2000+ more..
4) Notice the ad for the Jetta SE at the top... Underneath, they show lease prices for both the S model and the SE model... So, which model is the $13,325 price for? Betting on the S model..
So.... other than the $4500-$6500 difference in advertised price, they are right on the money.. :surprise:
Now.. that doesn't mean they don't possibly have good deals.. but, their advertising would do a Chrysler dealer proud..
Which is why we have these forums... To find out what people really pay for their car..
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kyfdx
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In my reading of the ad, it's even one step more misleading:
Not only does the fine print mention a $2000 cash or trade and $500 customer loyalty bonus, it also mentions $1999 down payment. Given the discrepancy of a $1, and the language used, they can say that the $2000 cash/trade is different than the $1999 down. So:
$13325 + $2000 + $500 + $1999 = $17,824 + TTL.
And, as you said, this is probably for the base S model.
I have a 2008 Jetta SE w/ mats in south florida (that I got in Dec. '07), and I'm currently paying $285 a month on the lease (for 15,000 miles and 39 months and not 12,000 miles and 48 mos. like the ad states), including all fees and TTL.
So, in my view, this ad is not a good deal at all.
What I really liked is that I conducted all the leasing process via email with the Internet Sales Manager. This took an afternoon of email exchanges with my license, credit application and insurance documentation. Next morning I picked up the car in 30 minutes. It was the most hassle free and easieast way to lease a car I have ever experienced.
The dealership I dealt with is VW Legend in Amytiville, NY.
Here's What I paid 22.7K OTD
Our tax rate is 7.75% which is in cleveland Cayahoga County
It was including Spoiler Wing
Any Question let me know I will love to answer that
Am I correct that you got them to $21,000 before taxes, etc? What did they say the invoice was? Do they seem at all more flexible in light of the fact that the 2009s are coming soon? And why did you opt for the 2008 over the 2009?
Any other advice you picked up from your negotiations? I'm looking to buy either in the NYC area or in Georgia.
Thanks!
They told me invoice was 22000 and u might not to know that 2009 came in the dealership when I got there I saw couple Jetta Wolfsburg 2009 there and there's couple changing thing were warranty (it forced to me to purchase 08 instead of 09) 3 yrs 36000miles (including no cost maintain schedules) and windows chrom molding( Im wondering if I can install it after market or in dealership)
and another reason why I bought 08 is zero% financing on 36month it is going to save several thousands
my advice is u should send a lot of e-mails to near ur dealer at least 5 and then wait them what they r sayin then make an offer like( hey here's what I got so far one of them(need specific dealer name and saleman would be helpful) offer me 21000+ TTL it doesnt have to me true in my opinion they are selling 2008 stock product not the 09 product so below invoice will be possible like me
dont forget to get 0% financing it's worth than 2000$ it depends on ur down though
and I checked the a lot of dealer almost dealer were out of stock wolfsburg edition due to 12500 production in USA
Im more than happe with car (im ex A4 owner 2.0t) u will lke 2.0t with DSG
DSG is just outstanding compare with just automatic transmission
but I couldnt get rid of 0% financing and 1000$ below invoice price
and I basically change the car in 2 years so I dont need that much long warranty
I was just quoted a price of 22,000 which is a little more than 100 under invoice.
The details are below.
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2008 Jetta automatic
Wolfsburg edition
Reflex Silver on anthracite (black) interior
Wolfsburg Wing Spoiler
(and a full tank of gas!)
MSRP $22,950
Invoice $22,113
Our August offer price $22,000.
We are also running a $300 gas card promotion this month on all cars delivered by August 31st.
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Does I'm not getting anybody to beat this (NY long island). Should i be pushing for more than this?
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a few of them have 7 or more wolfsburg models.
B
It is amazing how the dealerships in Phoenix and suburbs stay in business with how dishonest they are.........
Between promising us that their policy is to not mark up over MSRP(even though they do), or telling us that the "Loyal" package does not exist, or promising early delivery dates if we buy from them, or Berge VW in Gilbert pricing $3-4k over MSRP with something called Loan Value pricing, it was rediculous.
VW America really needs to step in and do some policing of their reputation that is being compromised by their dishonest dealers.
Then when a vehicle comes our where the demand actually exceeds supply they lick their chops like wolves near a crippled deer and pack on as much excess as the market will allow consciences be damned.
Let these cars sit in their lots, and let these mongrel scavengers choke on the excess.
Do you mean kind of like the way buyers lick their chops like wolves near a crippled deer when dealers are really hurting and have to sell their inventory for next to nothing. I don't like dealers who go above MSRP either but the biz does work both ways. You would try to get as much for your trade as possible.....whatever you can get the dealer to give you.....why shouldn't they do the same?
If you had a trade that was suddenly in high demand should you be called a bloodsucker because you want more for it than before?
after getting past the fact that an SE is NOT a wolfsburg. Im looking at the Jetta SE advertisement. MSPR on an SE is around 20-21k with the automatic. Seeing that their ad says there needs to be 2000 down im still looking at 16k +1000 more because of the loyalty cash and as far as i can tell ~17k for a VW jetta SE. I dont plan on leasing.
am i getting all of this correct?
edit: just read a few posts prior to this. seems as if the 13k price is for an S, still ~18k for an S auto isnt bad that's below MSRP
Figure out what you think is a great deal, then go to your preferred dealership... Get their price, then make your offer... If their deal doesn't seem good, then move on to another dealer..
Maybe Suntrup VW is a great dealer... Could be... but, don't go by their advertising... It's all gibberish, IMO..
regards,
kyfdx
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You're right about being low balled on your Civic...worth way more with such low miles.
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Get the names of the Honda dealer people actually doing the assessment, and their offers in writing. Then you can either sell to them directly, or point the VW dealer to the phone and tell them to call the person who is offering the highest bid on the Civic.
I've often used this technique when trading at a dealership that is reluctant to give me a good trade value. Never had a problem getting a fair deal this way.
Wondering 2008 v/s 2009 if change in style, 3 v/s 4 years maintenance offer and price difference are they worth going for 2008 or 2009?
Any suggestions or help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.