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That white skidplate is raising some ire. There are others who don't like it because it looks "unfinished."
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My guess is that they are on backorder simply because people are indeed complaining and they are getting a lot of demand for them. Thus all the available stock is gone and they are on back order status.
I don't care if it takes them a while to get them, but I am going to go in and ask them to replace mine when the can get one.
Should I be concerned after a month of waiting? I'm considering going to another dealer, as I can get the same deal elsewhere. Anyone else had a similar experience, or should I be shopping somewhere else?
They seem to at least be responsive by e-mail.
I am about to place an order on a Taco 05 Prerunner so that I can get it just the way I like. However, I wanted to confirm that there are two ways that a custom order can be built.
I have heard of preferencing where an already built vehicle is customized to meet my needs.
I have also heard of customizing a vehicle that has been allocated to a dealer before it is actually built. From a quality perspective, I would much prefer this vehicle.
Can anyone confirm that both or either is the way things actually get done?
Thanks
Based on looks alone, is it comparable to the Taco? Please don't lecture me on the long history of the Taco thus it's more reliable, coz I have an 03 first time Honda Pilot SUV and it sure hasn't given me a single headache.I'm gonna pick one of them 80% based on the looks alone, Honda with a slight edge by virtue of standard safety features.
They were able to tell me when it was scheduled to be assembled. When that date came, the next day I received an email telling me it was built as scheduled. I received an email today telling me it was "on the ground" and delivery could happen any day now. That meant it was in Portland, Oregon, and will be trucked to the dealership after the post production options are installed.
It pays to use a small town dealership, with an off-duty policeman as your salesman.
How many miles do you have on your truck? I just took a 400 mile trip and got just over 18mpg. That was with the wind and cruise set at 2000rpm! I hope it improves. I have about 1200 miles on my DC SB SR5 4X4.
Sounds like you're getting your information from some pea-brained neofascist "get the government off my back" yahoo from some other western backwater. California is a little quirky at times, but not just plain idiotic as you imply.
These trucks are made at a plant in nearby Fremont that cost many hundreds of millions of dollars to build and and further tens of millions to modify for the new models. There's no way Toyota would put up with throttling back production to spare the air. Nor would they plan the 2005 production schedule this way.
Car dealers on the other hand are entirely capable of being deceitful scum bags (not that they all are, geogecko!) I'd go talk to another dealer. A little competition can clear some minds at times like this.
I believe I have the same truck you do (automatic transmission, right?) and I have about the same number of miles on mine -- about 1,100. I've been tracking mpg for every tank of gas. I should mention that I have been using premium and my car was in 2 wheel drive throughout the 200 mile trip on which I got over 20 mpg. I also should mention that I used the 4-wheel drive a fair amount during my current tank of gas due to heavy snow locally and it appears my mpgs aren't going to look good when I fill up today or tomorrow.
You could spend a lot of time thinking and calculating, but sometimes just trying something is the way to go - when it's something like this with not much downside potential.
factory specs. I have had a dbl cab short bed on order now for 2 months for one customer with package #8 and have recieved no word form Toyota as to when and if they will build it. A dealer does not tell Toyota what to build , we just ask and then hope it gets done. If it was not scheduled for production that way for that quarter it will not get built until the next quarter gets planned out.
yes. dealerrunaround. never trust just one. play them as they play you. they are not your friends. it's all business...some promote a healthy customer relationship...most don't. it's your money. and they want it. all of them do. make them work for it.
CAPITALISM!
i'm now searching the country for what i want. i can travel anywhere. no one will work as hard for you as yourself. start shopping. you have the choice as the consumer.
and i truly hope you find the truck you want at a fair price. i'm sure you'll love it. i've been waiting over a year for my opportunity to get into a new truck. Toyota is the way to go for me.
Is that too much to ask? If they would just give me all the information they had, and tell me what their experiences are, then I'd be a little more comfortable just waiting.
I was telling myself that if I hadn't heard back from them by tomorrow, I was going to call my bank, and put a stop payment on the deposit check that I had left with them. Then go to the other dealer that I had talked to before. I'm not sure that is the way to go. I mean, as long as I don't tell the current dealer that I've done this, I can still go with them, if they end up getting the truck (because they usually just give you the deposit check back when you sign). However, if I have this other dealership go ahead and order it for me, and I end up going with the current dealer, I'll have to come up with something there. I have an excuse for the current dealership, since they have neglected to contact me...but I couldn't say the same about the other one.
Not sure what to do. I guess I could contact the other dealership, and fax them a copy of the invoice of the truck I want, and see what kind of deal they can make me. If it's better, I may just go with them anyway, since it doesn't look like they've even started on the current dealer's truck.
As far as ordering a truck that is oddly strange or something, I don't think that's the case. Besides port options, I'm just getting a Black 4x4 DC TRD Sport with Automatic.
Thanks for the reply. Yes I do have an automatic. I've been using premium and haven't used 4-wheel drive for more than about 10 miles. So far it's been 15 city and 18 hi-way. If it doesn't improve by the time I get 2000 miles, it's going to the shop.
One of the main reasons I started going this route was that I grew tired of fighting with the local dealers about how inconvenienced they were because I wasn't buying something they already had on the lot. I had a dealer in Huntsville, Al. offer to custom order anything I wanted, as well. I guess it all boils down to whether a dealership wants to be helpful, or not.
At the beginning of the "shopping around" process, I was frustrated by the "packages", but eventually narrowed it down to be able to get what I wanted without having to take what I didn't want.
I have never owned a pickup, but I don't like any of the sedans with big enough trunks for my equipment, and think that a pickup would be better than another SUV.
I never plan to go off road, except for a gravel driveway every year or two, but am thinking that the off-road package may ride better than the sport package. What do those who already have a Tacoma think?
The power is fine on the 4 cyl. Keep in mind this engine is lots bigger than the "average" 4 cyl.! (Heck, it's bigger than the average SIX cyl. of a few years ago!) I am used to the Nissan Maxima's 6 cylinder VQ engine, so I have a good reference for power. I think if you were towing something on a regular basis, the 4 cyl. could be a problem, but as a daily driver it has more than enough zip. Can't comment on the fuel economy (yet). The engine seems a little harsh to me, and it vibrates a bit at idle, but then again, I'm coming from a Maxima which is very quiet and smooth. Perhaps the rough idle will smooth out after it's broken in. Can anyone else comment?
I like the 5 speed better than the 6 speed. Too much shifting for me on the 6 speed, for no good reason other than to be "cool." Fifth gear is a good "overdrive" and is just fine for cruising at 65-70 mph. There seems to be something strange when shifting from 4th to 5th though. See comments in another post on down about that.
The noise from the top vents when using only the heater (floor) setting is explained in an air flow diagram in the owner's manual. It shows (using arrows) air flow through the top vents as well as the floor. The arrows at the top are smaller, indicating a somewhat restricted air flow, hence the noise. I guess Toyota thinks Tacoma owners are too stupid to switch to defrost if the front window fogs up.
No 4x4 disengagement problems so far.
Suspension noise: I have noticed a knocking noise at times. For all I know, it could be something in one of the storage compartments--still need to check that out further.
Glove box: I can see the "defect" folks are referring to. I would not have noticed it if I was not looking for it. It does not bother me either, and I'm usually pretty picky about these kinds of things.
There is something strange happening when shifting from 4th to 5th (5 speed, manual) though. In all the other gears, when engaging the clutch, the RPMs drop down immediately as you would expect. When engaging in 4th though, the RPMs don't drop right away--the engine speed hangs for a few seconds.
This has happened in some other models/brands of cars I've driven, but only in ALL of the gears. (This helps make shifts more smooth.) It's weird to see it happen in only one gear.
BTW, the noise from the heater blower is still a mystery to me - less flow from the defroster vents equates to MORE noise? How come this isn't true of the floor vents when the dial is set to, say, the dash vents? It seems weird that the noisiest the entire system gets is in the Floor mode - in all of the other 30+ cars I've ever owned, this is the quietest mode.