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Toyota Tacoma 2005+



  • toycashtoycash Posts: 139
    The Double Cab will be available with a 6-spd. on the 4x4 short bed model.

    The current estimated on sale date for the Tacoma is 10/18. Dealers will probably receive their first allocation of ordered Tacomas at the end of August, meaning vehicles scheduled for production. Toyota will, of course, release more information like pricing around that time and not before.
  • atlgaxtatlgaxt Posts: 500
    Wow. This is the first I heard about direct injection on the new Toyota engines. I sure hope the Tacoma gets it. Otherwise it would be sad (and would not make sense) if the Tundra gets better fuel economy than the Tacoma.

    This would seal the deal for me in terms of getting a Tacoma. I really don't need a huge truck, and because of my parking situation at work, If I had a bigger truck I would have to pay to park it at a remote lot.
  • Did you anticipate that, by e-mailing them, they would release information solely to you that was not released to the general public?

    No, what I expected was that when the boss (Esmond) said the truck would be available this August he meant what he said. I believe it is quite clear what I expected from them and I am certain they have dates in mind for these items.

    Were you anticipating that they would change their marketing strategy because you were ready to place an order?

    No, I was expecting that they would understand what I was asking for. I was not asking for them to divulge their prices options etc only for the estimate of the date that information will be available. All I can make of Toyota "strategy" is to tell me the customer, my concerns do not matter. Do you think they picked up the phone or even routed my concerns to marketing? I have no evidence of it. When I compare the treatment I have received from Toyota Customer Service vs Subaru Of America. Subaru treated me as if I had a brain, and forwarded my concerns to the proper department. They may not have given me the answer I wanted to hear but at least they listened to me and worked to resolve my questions. Toyota on the other hand choose to revise the press release available on their website as to omit the reference to August and choose not to lift a finger to resolve the issue.
  • It's about time we are getting the low down on the new 2005 Tacomas.

    And I must say it looks schweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!!!

    Make mine a Double Cab or XtraCab with 4WD, please.
  • atlgaxtatlgaxt Posts: 500
    OK - I think the assumption has been that the 4.0 V6 in the new Tacoma will put out 245 hp and 280+/- lb ft of torque, because that is what the 4 Runner has.

    Now I hear the the Toyota 4.7 V8 will be bumped up from 235 to 282 and direct injection will be added (part of that increase is probably due to other changes also).

    I also hear the 4.0 V6 will also get direct injection. It seems that power would go up some. The Isuzu 3.5 V6 went from 230 hp to 250 hp, with a similar increase in torque with the addition of direct injection. Unfortunately that great engine was not enough to save the Rodeo and Axiom, but that is another topic.

    Has anyone heard what the Toyota 4.0 V6 will put out with direct injection?
  • vixtervixter Posts: 34
    The specs. I have indicate it will have 240hp @ 5,200 RPM & 282 lb.ft. torque @ 3,800 RPM.. They will retain the same SMPEFI (Seq. multiport elec. F.I.) as in the V6 4Runner. Though I have no specs. on the upgraded V8 as of now, my guess is that it will be rated in the 270hp range continuing a similar disparity in hp numbers like the current 4Runner V8 vs. Tundra V8.

  • Well, my earlier assumption that the Tacoma would get the "new" VVT & Direct injection version of the 4.0 v6 may be wrong then... If your right vixter looks the the current 4.0 v6 in the current 4 runner will be put in tacoma. IF so the bigger tundra with the new v6 will be pulling 3-4 mpg more than the smaller tacoma with the current v6. Damn, I was hoping have the cake and eat it too, ie to have a crew cab 4x4 pulling 25 mpg. 06' I guess....but who knows maybe toyota will surprise us?
  • atlgaxtatlgaxt Posts: 500
    I would hate it if they give the Tundra these great new engines and keep them away from the Tacoma.

    However, when you consider the new larger Tacoma will probably overlap with the not quite full sized Tundra, I could see Toyota being worried that the Tacoma would steal sales from the Tundra. So maybe once they come out with the new and bigger Tundra they will put the new VVT direct injection V6 and maybe even the new V8 in the Tacoma.
  • spleckspleck Posts: 114
    Why doesn't anyone realize that the Tundra Double Cab is BIGGER than the Titan, F-150, 1500, etc? Find a DC with a 6-foot bed without going to a F-250.

    I'm still hoping Toyota will surpise us (and those that have early information). They could put a V6 with GDI or even a V8 in the Tacoma DC and not have overlap.

    Toyota needs to realize that they are going to hurt sales of the Tacoma in order to protect sales of the Tundra. They just need to accept the decrease in Tundra sales until the remodel.
  • novanova Posts: 135
    I spoke to a large toyota dealer in south Florida. They are making the 2005's now. They have the v v t v6. He told me to call him in 2 weeks and he should be able to tell me when they will arrive on the lot so I can test drive one. Called toyota customer service thy know nothing and have no brochure on the 2005.This will be my first [non-permissible content removed] truck.Maybe someone on this board lives in the city that the tacoma is made in can give more info.
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,788
    I see there is a power outlet in the rear bed of the '05 X-Runner. Does anybody know if this is a 12v outlet or a 120v outlet?

  • Hi NOVA,

    What souuth florida dealership are you thinking about? I too am very interested in the New X-Runner. I live in West Palm Beach.

  • Hi NOVA,

    What south Florida dealership are you thinking about? I too am very interested in the New X-Runner. I live in West Palm Beach.

  • novanova Posts: 135
    I spoke to jene the internet guy at marrone and john at palm beach toyota. I will call them both in a coouple of weeks to check on their incoming trucks. When I buy a new vehicle I decide on the exact options and color i want and I send out e. mails to every toyota dealer within 50 to 100 miles. Who ever gives me the best price is were I buy. I am looking for red ext. gray int.crew cab V6 auto with the pkg that the bumpers are painted
  • atlgaxtatlgaxt Posts: 500
    Wow that is a good looking truck. It looks huge and it definitely seems to have the presence of a real truck. I cannot wait to see one in real life.
  • vixtervixter Posts: 34
    We are not expecting our first 05 Taco til late Oct. up here in Western Canada.
  • atlgaxtatlgaxt Posts: 500
    I was just looking at the most recent pictures posted of the red truck. Either that truck is huge (really close to full sized) or the guys standing next to it are really short.

    It's not beyond an automaker to use a misleading photo, as I remember looking at a picture of a golden retriever in the back of a Forester in a Subaru brochure. When I looked closely and did some measurements on my own Forester, I figured they either chopped the photo or used a miniature dog, about half the size of a normal golden.
  • moparbadmoparbad Posts: 3,868
    Plastic bumpers? Booo! A truck needs real bumpers!
  • That is one Sweeeet looking truck.....hey teamgekko do you have any more photos???? My money is in the bank collecting a whopping 1.5%...I can hardly wait to go see my local toyota man and lay the green down.

    I will mostly likely try and get another winter out of the old ford ('93 ranger) but will have no regrets when I put it on the front lawn for $500.

    I know that the 05's have not yet landed at the dealers but has anybody heard anything about what upgrades/changes toyota is planning for the 06 taco????? My wife purchased a new 4-runner in 03 an that ride has been flawless.....really looking forward to this new tacoma.
  • spleckspleck Posts: 114
    Typically, when a model is redesigned, the following year gets nearly no changes other than corrections of TSBs, etc. Normally, only the packages/options change, sometimes to make the vehicle a better value (ie more standard options, or more powerful stereo, etc).

    If any big changes are coming, they'll be in the 2007 Taco to align with the new Tundra. If the rumors are true, the Tundra will probably end up with a 5.5L V8, allowing Toyota to put the 4.7L in the Tacoma. I have no idea if the Tundra will come with all three engines (4.0L V6).

    It's possible that Toyota may give the 4.0L in the Tacoma GDI in 06 (and not 05 as some were hoping), meaning about a 2-6 mpg increase. The Tundra was anticipating a 6 mpg increase on the 4.7L, but the stickers are only showing a 2 mpg increase.
  • novanova Posts: 135
    With all the people that visit and post on this forum dont we have one person who works at the TACOMA plant that can keep us better informed then toyota and the dealers?
  • steine13steine13 Posts: 2,561
    That's a nice double entendre... if there really were someone here who works there, perhaps they'd like to keep their job...?
    I'm pretty sure most manufacturers keep an eye on these forums and make sure everything is on the up and up.
  • novanova Posts: 135
    Sure toyota is a top secret operation
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 11,017
    Toyota has traditionally been tight-lipped about upcoming redesigns - so has Honda, for the record. As with most companies these days, I imagine Toyota requires their employees to sign confidentiality agreements, stating that they may not reveal proprietary information. This would, of course, include any information on future models that has not been revealed to the public via press release.

    By not revealing pricing & feature information prematurely to the consumer, Toyota is also not releasing this information to their competitors. If pricing/styling/features were released earlier, the competition would have that much extra time to work on their improvements, thus reducing any additional profit that Toyota could reap by having a unique product on the market for the longest possible period of time.

    So, while we're grateful to our Toyota dealers for revealing what information they've got, we have to respect our members' professional positions and their responsibilities to Toyota. In other words, we've just got to be patient, no matter how much it hurts!


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  • atlgaxtatlgaxt Posts: 500
    Good looks, good power and up to 6,500 lbs towing in a midsized truck.

  • I spoke to someone at Longo Toyota near me in Southern California. They are the largest Toyota dealer in the nation, I think worldwide as well. Anyway, they gave me some specific dates on the 05 Tacoma. They told me Sept 20th would be the day Production starts, and they would hit the Longo Toyota lots Oct. 18th.

    Considering they are the #1 Toyota dealer worldwide, I think their date may be fairly accurate however I would take any info with a grain of salt when it comes to dealers. However they have proved to be the most helpful so far regarding release dates. They didnt have any pricing info yet though.

    Hope this helps!
  • spleckspleck Posts: 114
    There sure are a lot of "largest dealers in the nation"... That line must be part of salesman training.
  • sbell4sbell4 Posts: 446
    There is only one "largest volume" in the world and it is Longo. No one else is even close. We sell a lot of Toyotas, #1 volume in Alabama, but they sell about what we sell in a year in a two month period. Other dealers have trucks deliver to the dealerships, they have rail cars.
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