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Which dealer in Southern California is this? Can you email me those quotes at dave2000_99us@yahoo.com please? I'm looking for a 05' Tacoma Access Cab with TRD so don't worry I'm not after your truck! Thanks.
I've only driven my new Tacoma for a couple of days, so I don't know how these numbers will stack up against reality. But I do know that the car so far drives like a dream.
1) when i was buyin a car at toyota they told me they are not allowed to bargain and they are not sales people they a product information staff..
supposedly all of canada has this..
2)I want an access cab with the sport pakage. i was wonderin how much this would cost.
3)This truck is sweet but once i buy it am i gonna have to spend 2 gs on the sound system.. how is it?? and does it have any bass?
and guess whaat im only 17 what a ride im a have.. toyota+chick magnet...
They'll offer it with the sport pkg. and the base SR5 pkg., etc.
Not sure if I will want to pay the extra $$$ for the appearance only hood scoop and whatever extra options I probably don't need or want with the sport pkg. Might play the waitng game until Nissan releases the new Frontier.
Is there a big difference between the "Sport Seats" and what comes with a standard SR5 package? Is is just fabric?
Interesting hypothetical:
Looks like an 04 Double Cab will average about 17.5 MPG with mixed driving. Based on what's posted, we might expect 19.5 MPG (mixed) from the 05. That's a difference of about 586 gallons of gas over 100,000 miles. Assuming gas will be about $2.50 per gallon (who the heck really knows!), that works out to be a $1465.20 difference for 100,000 miles. Assuming all other things (maintenance costs, etc.) roughly equal - that means (to me) if I can get an 04 for $1465.20 less than an 05 - it's worthwhile (I really like the current style and almost dislike the bigger trend).
I'm guessing an 04 can be had for significantly less (maybe 3K?) than an 05.
For what it is worth......I have a '04 DC 4X4. I've got 5k+ miles on it so far, and have been averaging around 20.5 mpg with mixed (city/highway) driving. You'll find on these pages that mileage varies, however mine has been good so far.
I believe that there will be some good deals on '04s right up until they are gone. I think it will be possible to get one for significantly less than the '05. Just my opinion. They say that when a body style changes, the "old" style can be had for significant savings, because it already looks "old" at the time of purchase.
BTW...I love the '04 DC so far...
I priced this vehicle here at Edmunds.com and wasn’t too disappointed with the $28,230 MSRP.
When I went to Toyota.com to try the same thing I couldn’t get this combination of vehicle and options. I tired zip codes from every corner of the country and had no luck. And different areas of the country had different option packages to choose from. I couldn’t even choose a 4x4 using a Los Angeles zip code.
So, my questions are these: Are all options available everywhere in the country? If options are regional, can a dealer in one region get a vehicle from another region? Or, if options are regional, is ordering a vehicle not supplied to my region straight from the factory a possibility?
I ask because I’ve never bought a new vehicle before and I’m not so sure I can trust a dealer whom I don’t know and who might rather I by something off his lot.
Thanks.
1. It looks like you are ignoring depreciation, often the single biggest expense of vehicle ownership. An '04 may cost less today, but it will resale for less in 2 or 5 or whatever number of years. Much of your "savings" you will lose at resale time. Just how much is a guess at this point.
2. The new design is superior in just about every category to the old one, at least it's touted to be. I would think twice about driving a possibly inferior vehicle, especially if the savings aren't that big.
I buy and sell a lot of cars, and have learned to always analyze the deal on both the front and back end.
Example: I "saved" $700 or so buying an '01 Tahoe with no 3rd row seat, since I didn't need it. Well, when we decided to sell it 1.5 years later to get a car, everyone who called only wanted one with a 3rd row seat. That savings cost me around $2000 in the resale value of that vehicle.
If you are like many and keep your '04 toyota for a long time, it may well be TWO design cycles old by the time you sell it, vs just one with an '05.
How much would you pay today for an old Toyota truck of the previous generation to the '04?
My point...generally the market works out the price pretty well...so there usually is no "bargain" unless your circumstances are different than most buyers.
I have seen the prerunners configured this way, but I need the 4x4? Picts of it would be great.
The '05 SR5 (no TRD) handles amazingly well for a truck. You can actually yank the wheel for fun, and find VERY LITTLE LEAN, for a truck. In fact, I think it's the most stable truck I've ever ridden in. (I've never been in a street rod thing...)
Ride quality is nice. Bumps, and I sought them out, were well managed. Like the reviews say, Camry like, although I think that's an insult (bland ol' camrys).
Only question is the fuel economy. I'd like to see better. I've read that we don't need to actually put Premium in it (should I believe that?), but I am guessing if I don't, the power, and thus the economy also, will suffer. True?
Still an AWESOME truck. If you get a chance to drive one, you'll love it!
and at canadian toyota dealerships there is no bargaining it is a take it or leeve it price. its all done over the internet. or is this just bs that they say. well how much is a 2005 toyota tacoma access cab with sport packeage... GO CANADA!!!!!!!
Carson Toyota has a ton of 2005 Tacomas in stock now, including a blue X-Runner. I went down there today and test drove it. Ridiculously awesome truck. All of them look very sharp. I encourage anyone in the vicinity to go visit them. If you go down there, ask for Chilly. He was very cool to me (being a 21 year old kid, it's hard to get taken seriously when looking at new cars) and took great care of me. And test drive that X-Runner before it sells if you can. There were literally no less than 3 people looking at it at any given time while I was there. Sweet freakin truck.
I am lusting after a 05 Tacoma Double Cab with TRD Package 6 spd manual. It will cost me around 34,000 dollars before taxes. Hope I will be able to afford it. Where are you located Doogyboy, I am in Northern BC
Double Cab 4x4 Manual 5ft 31,990, Auto 6ft 33,650. Packages are as follows. SR5 add 1290, Sport 4080, Sport with towing 4930. Sorry, no TRD off road available on the double cab.
Access Cab 4x4 V6, Manual 29,240, Auto 30,200. Packages as follows SR5 add 2065, TRD Off Road 4810, and TRD Off Road with towing 5660. Sorry no Sport in the Access Cab models.
To these prices add Freight, AC Tax, etc. If you are looking at the towing packages, you won't be able to get that until mid December at the earliest.
Oh one other thing, the dealer mark up on each of these vehicles is about 3,000 to 3,500. I'd say the dealer has room to move. Good luck
I just got back from my dealer. Just purchased the Double Cab Sport. Was able to negotiate $1500 off "Access Pricing". Truck arrives end of November. Elected not to go with the towing package as it won't be available till January. If need be, the coolers can always be added later. 5,000 lbs is going to be plenty for my needs anyway.
Now I'm just waiting for Revtek to come out with 2 1/2 kit for the new truck, order some 285 70 17's and have one very cool ride.
Cons:
- LONG TRUCK! (Not sure good or bad)Barely fits in my standard garage (Very Tight 2" in front & 2" in back). I parked it next to a Chevy Suburban was surprised that it is slightly longer. Looks like I will have to get the short bed.
- Hard to hear stereo, I think because speakers are located at the bottom of the doors. I liked the adjustments on the steering whell.
- Seats in SR5 standard were disappointing.
- No option for Sun Roof.
- Somone mentioned earlier that the seats are low and I agree. I think they could increase the hight about 2" whick would greatly improve visability.
- Parking and driving in tight areas of a city such as parking deck will be a challenge and at
times a pain.
Pros:
- Truck looks great even if it is LONG. Wife even liked driving it.
- I'm short and Sport Seats fit me perfect. They are tight around the upper torso. I think they may be uncomfortable for someone large.
- Lots of power, no question...
- Interior looks great with Sport Seats.
- Nice size bed.
Question: This is my first truck. I really like the appearances of the Dble Cab Long bed, but parking it in my garage will be difficult, pulling into parking decks & parking it in parking lots will be a challenge. (Especially for my wife). What do you think about the Dbl Cab Off Road Short Bed truck? I would appreciate your opinions both good & bad before I buy this truck.
Bruce - makes perfect sense regarding depreciation. I had somewhat neglected that because I have a tendency to hold onto a vehicle until the mileage gets pretty darn high........so that effect becomes a little less pronounced.
There's a really interesting Dealership where I live (Asheville, North Carolina - Jim Barkley Toyota) that uses the "no haggle" concept and they have a bunch (30+) 2004 double cabs on the lot.
cost simulater and it did not show any conflicts but that doesn't mean it will be in the build mix
I bought my '00 Tundra from Jim Barkley, it was a no haggle deal and was very quick and no-nonsense. I'd go there again if my local dealers play games and annoy me again.
If this is your first truck, I will tell you that any truck will feel large and a little unweildy at first, compared to a car. As for going with the long bed or short, I prefer the looks of the short bed. Do you have a use that requires a longer bed? I would guess that the shorter bed length would be more popular, since most people prefer ease of parking and garaging to some extra bed length. But as long as it is, it's still a more compact package than the full size trucks. They sell millions of those, so obviously they're manageable, though I drive a regular cab because I tow a trailer a lot and wanted a more compact package in tight areas.
One big thing to check on a compact truck is the turning radius. Being narrower, some smaller trucks actually have a larger turning radius than big ones, because of wheel clearance in tight turns, etc.
I think the offroad package is an almost must-have if you like a firmer ride and handling, the nice look of bigger tires, and the seats that come with it (I believe), and the limited slip is nice too. I put Bilstein shocks on my '00 Tundra to improve the somewhat sloppy handling and it was the best thing I ever did. A soft ride is one thing, but you also want to feel composed on the road and confident about handling.
In the compact/midsize class, I have checked them out briefly and already I think the Tacoma is the class act of the bunch. Ford is an old, small design. GMC/Chevy have a decent truck, but it doesn't have comparable power, polish, and won't resale as well, though it is cheaper. I think the Dakota took a step back in terms of looks, and to get any power at all you have to guzzle gas from their notoriously thirsty V8's. (I have a Dodge Ram now....13.5mpg on 160 miles of mixed city/highway driving today) Dakotas previously have turned in worse than EPA rated MPG. Nissan's new Frontier looks comparable, but I'm not fond of their Mr. Roboto styling. I also get the impression that Toyota has a hard-to-beat reputation for trucks.
But buying a Toyota pickup truck will never be a bad decision if it meets your needs. They are known to be reliable, and that helps them hold their value well. A well equipped but not necessarily "loaded" model will be a good value.
I think the Tacoma makes more sense financially at $25,000 or so rather than at $31,000, where you overlap the full size trucks in price. But not everyone (me included) wants a full size truck. My Ram is a fine truck, but it is not as refined, smooth engined, and doesn't feel as "in control" as my Tundra did. The Hemi makes a lot of power, but the roar and fuss it makes while doing that isn't as satisfying as the turbine-like rush I got in the V8 Tundra. I hope the V6 in the Tacoma is like that.
I don't like the current Tundra front-end styling or I would buy another one in a few months. I will give the Tacoma a hard look.
Finally, be sure to check rear and side visability of each truck you consider. Some have bad blind spots for short drivers, due to the B and C pillars and mirror size. And don't buy a pickup without 4 wheel ABS. I had two minor accidents in one year and another near-miss due to the Tundra's front brakes locking up quickly when towing a heavy load w/o trailer brakes. Steering ability during braking would have easily avoided the problems.
Many thanks for your response. I think you are exactly right. I'm looking for a short bed to test drive and will check for blind spots. Again, thanks!
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Autotrader shows 440 2004's within 300 miles of Denver and only 5 2005's. I'm waiting till those numbers are at least even before I try and make a deal.
I looked long and hard at the short beds but I just could not see clear to getting a 5-foot bed (never got to see one in person). The 5 short beds look nicer in the pictures but I know the first time I need the extra space I will be angry that I did not get the long bed. I also assumed that it may be an easier resale but I am not sure on that.
The interior looked nice enough, nothing too extravagant. Leather and a sunroof option would have been really nice, dont know why its not offered. Also something else I noticed is that the tailgate has no lock? Is that normal? What does everyone do for a bed cover if I do not get a cap? This is my first pickup truck I hope I will enjoy it. The vehicles I was looking at were the Subaru's and some other regular sedans (Accord, G35, etc).
I am kind of concerned with the overall size of the truck, it looks much larger that the old Tacomas. Hope I made the right call! Pick it up tmmrw afternoon!