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  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    If you can find one for $11k that's got so few miles and looks as clean as that, let me know!
  • bhill2bhill2 Member Posts: 2,597
    I am irrationally delighted by the fact that Cadillac offers the wagon as a 'CTS-V'. If I needed a wagon (or any car for that matter) I would be tempted.

    2009 BMW 335i, 2003 Corvette cnv. (RIP 2001 Jaguar XK8 cnv and 1985 MB 380SE [the best of the lot])

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    It is worth what its worth. Fact is, you go to trade that car in, the dealer might be so kind as to give you $9k for it.

    But anyway...

    Howzabout a '98 with those miles for $10k asking?

    At least the asking price is $1500 less than the other one

    Or how about a few more miles but 2 years younger?

    They are out there. Just gotta look. I found those in about 5 mins.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    edited January 2011
    Wow, used 5ers are cheaper than I thought!

    Edit: I read the not-so-fine print, that 2002 was too good to be true:

    THE PRICE SHOWN ABOVE (WHICH INCLUDES 12 MONTH OR 12000 MILES POWERTRAIN WARRANTY) REPRESENTS THE FINANCED BALANCE REMAINING AFTER A DOWNPAYMENT OF $2,995.00
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,345
    that vintage is one of my favorite cars.

    but, what's with the v* models? Isn't the 6 cyl a vastly better car overall (and especially to buy used)? and cheaper I have to assume.

    I would not mind a 2002 or so 5 speed wagon if you find a nice clean one of those!

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  • andys120andys120 Member Posts: 23,670
    edited January 2011
    5 Speed Fiver wagons are very rare in the US. If youy really want one I recommend a subscription to Roundel, the magazine of the BMWCCA, they show up there once in a while.

    2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    Ah well. The 98 sounds better to me anyway. ;)

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I'd be too worried about what expensive part will break next, given it's 13 years old.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    Saw a 4 door Mini, Germans seem to have a fetish for making a seat for every [non-permissible content removed] :shades:
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,723
    First one I've seen, other than the hundred I saw driving by the factory.
    I almost missed it, even though it was parked right near me.
    It was one of those 'beigy' colors.
    Looks bigger than I thought it would.
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    Saw a Cruze today (rental) and a new style Jetta....meh
  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386
    I was in a Cruze for a second at Epcot back in November. If i were looking now for that size car I;d try it out.

    New Jetta - may have cured my VW longings. Word is it will be the same for the new Passat. That has the added baggage of it will be made in the USA. I'm all for made in the USA but as the former owner of an 80 Rabbit I can't imagine ever buying a US made VW again.
    2015 Mazda 6 Grand Touring, 2014 Mazda 3 Sport Hatchback, 1999 Mazda Miata 2004 Toyota Camry LE, 1999.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    VW seems to be copying Toyota - bland it up and decontent it.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Then sell a ton.

    Profit.
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,107
    I can't see VW more than doubling their sales in the next few years based on the Jetta and Passat. Toyota had (not has) the reliability reputation to make it a safe buy. Can't say that about VW...
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    Cars for people who hate cars. Most people hate cars. Recipe for success indeed.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Well, that's a good thing if you don't like to see yourself coming or going. :)
  • anythngbutgmanythngbutgm Member Posts: 4,277
    Loaded, in a very generic beige color. Still like the profile tho. :)
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    Those PA Rabbits were dreadful.
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,107
    "Those PA Rabbits were dreadful. "

    Well, except for these:
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  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    VW had a commercial where they sang "Little GTO" in German and substituted "GTI" for "GTO."
  • lemkolemko Member Posts: 15,261
    ...white Mini Clubman with a black roof on Verree Road near Napfle in NE Philly the other day.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Sounds like a hand in Poker, "pair of Jukes beats a pair of sixes".

    I didn't realize how small these were until I came up close in person.

    The lights on the hood still look bizarre to me. Of course I'm too old to be targeted.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    I'll take the pair of sixes...preferrably in a row
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Mazda6 or BMW 6 series?

    I'll take the latter.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,587
    Of course I'm too old to be targeted.

    Actually, you are probably too young... It's always old people that end up buying the cars that are "meant for young people".

    Scion xB is a perfect example...

    Why? Young people don't have the money for a new car.

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  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    As a brand Scion has the youngest demographic, though.

    I don't recall the source but we found that out recently in the "Toyota on the Mend" thread.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    I mean a nice I6 engine, can be in many vehicles :shades:
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Indeed, perhaps the smoothest revving layout?
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    Every example I've driven has been turbine-smooth
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,587
    My first inline-6 was a '76 Jeep CJ-5 with 3-speed stick.. not all that smooth... lol...

    My current inline-6 is much better.. It is my favorite engine configuration.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    Was that the same 4.2 as the '79 CJ7 I had as my first car?
    I thought it was pretty smooth. Definitely a torquey beast. But, yeah, only 3 gears definitely hampered it.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,587
    No... they had two I-6s.. Mine was a 258 cid (aka 3.8)..

    I think the 4.2 was just a bored or stroked version off the same block, but I'm not sure...

    Actually, I liked it... It was a good tranny for a 3-speed.. matched well with the engine...

    It wasn't like my dog, though... Didn't like to roll over.. unfortunately.. :(

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    The configuration makes me think of vintage MB, BMWs, and Toyotas back when the brand had a little soul.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,587
    To clarify... it was a 3-speed stick.... not a slushbox..

    I really like that H-pattern... with Reverse above 1st..

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  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    First I've seen in the flesh, it was at the parking lot at Ski Liberty this weekend.

    Hope it rides better than the old one.
  • texasestexases Member Posts: 11,107
    How'd you like the new X3's looks? The pics seem to be quite an improvement, I was never able to get used to the old X3's tall/narrow design. And yes, from what I've read, the new X3 rides fine...
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I drove by it, not walked by, but it looks a bit nicer in the D-pillar area. I got a rear 3/4ths view.

    I actually prefer the upcoming X1, especially its nose.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 265,587
    Stopped by the dealer a couple of weeks ago... I think its a big improvement (and my wife has the old body style).

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  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Saw one here in DC today. Not too many of these around, I thought they'd sell more quickly.
  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,415
    Oh yeah, I saw a Leaf on the road the other day...demo model emblazoned with promo material.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    And no they don't look better in person.

    Anyone seen a new Quest yet?
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,345
    Is the quest out yet for the public? I figure to see one next week at the auto show.

    and yes, the Odyssey is more hideous with every one I see. It looks particularly bad in Black, so of course, I keep seeing black ones!

    I don't get that hung up on styling (more concerned with the interior and driving dynamics), but even I have some standards, and this I would never buy (although easy for me to say, since we want to downsize from a van anyway).

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Same here - vans are about function, I get that, believe me. I own one, and no it's not pretty. But it's not ugly, either. Just anonymous.

    It also bothers me that Honda puts "28mpg" in every ad I've seen, yet that's only the $40k plus Touring models, as most get the lesser 5 speed automatic and an EPA combined 21 mpg.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    edited January 2011
    Is the quest out yet for the public? I figure to see one next week at the auto show.

    Nissan didn't show for the Detroit Auto Show - don't know if Nissan plans to be at any of them.
  • berriberri Member Posts: 10,165
    Honestly, it seems to me that the Ody is ugly on the outside and the Sienna is ugly on the inside, which girl do you take out on the date when you're desperate? Haven't seen the new Quest yet, but seems like it may be the quirky choice like dating the foreign exchange student? The again, the Mopar is like taking your grandma out. Life has tough choices!
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,345
    nissan will have their usual big display in Philly. Hopefully it will be there. Will be interested in seeing a leaf too.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    I didn't even realize Nissan was a no-show in Detroit until my wife mentioned it as I was pondering this thread yesterday. And I drive one. :blush:
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    For sure the Ody/Sienna left the door open for competitors.

    Honda kept the 6 speed out of their volume models and beat the exterior with the ugly stick.

    Toyota cut costs inside, I swear my 2007 is much nicer. The 8th seat isn't as good, either, my favorite feature from the 2010.

    The Quest looks interesting but specs put the cargo floor at a good 10" shy of fitting a sheet of plywood, so I'm wondering if it's smaller than the class leaders.

    Dodge put in a decent engine and a nicer interior, so it's worth a 2nd look.

    Kia also put in a massively upgraded engine, though I'd like to see the new Kia re-do the whole van, and come up with a Sonata-like home run.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Saw 2 of these on the way in today. I like the squared off look.

    They're selling very well, too.
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