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don't all mid- and full-size CUVs come with mommy-mobile stigma? ;b
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
WAIT!
Do searches really ever "start" and "stop" when you are part of CCBA? Or do you just test drive the newest, latest, greatest hooptie out there? In my mind, to be a true CCBA, you can't really rule anything out during the search process.
Which leads me to the rest of my tale ....
On Saturday, I had the pleasure of taking my wife out to a fine romantic dinner (OK, it was Boston Market, but it was her choice). She must have been in a fine mood as I was able to convince her that a trip to the local Chevrolet dealer to see the new '08 Malibu was a nice way to spend some time.
Unfortunately, there were no new Malibu's on the lot to be seen - the saleslady took my name and phone number and will call me when some arrive.
So, we wandered the lot - they had an '07 HHR that was loaded, but it was an auto. Wife's first impression was that it was a bit 'strange' looking, but once we sat inside she was more amenable to it. The windows are quite small - I suspect that blind spots are an issue when driving it. She liked the seating height - one complaint she has with my L is that she has to climb in and out of it, the seats are so low.
Moving on, they had a wicked black on black '08 Impala SS. Sat in that one as well - again, nice seating height for the missus, plus she thought the seats were fairly comfortable. Saleslady asked if we wanted to test drive it -- who am I to say no?
Likes:
1) Power - 303HP really makes it fly. Took it out on the highway and buried my right foot. Nice, nice, nice acceleration.
2) Comfort - wife commented that as much as she likes to drive her '08 VUE, she's not as happy being a passenger. Not so with the Impala .. the seats were agreeably comfortable for her. Could easily see us taking long road trips in it.
Dislikes:
1) A 4-speed automatic? No manu-matic control? How 1990's of Chevrolet. I know that a new RWD Impala is due in a year or two, and one can only hope that it will be fitted with a proper automatic transmission.
2) Very small side mirrors. Wife commented they look like half-closed eyes. Even the mirrors on my L are bigger.
3) Black leather interior would be hot, hot, hot in the heat of the summer.
Sticker price on the car we drove was just over $30K - when I got home I optioned one up the way I would like (no need to spend $900 for chrome wheels - polished aluminum would be just fine), then took my GM Supplier discount into account and the $1500 rebate and came up with just under $27K.
Heck, the Malibu LTZ is $26K with the GMS discount factored in.
Perhaps a dark blue with the tan interior ....
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
I like the Pilot. Can't see a real reason not to get one unless you need off-road capability. Less dorky than a Sienna for a young single guy. Akangel loves hers, & she's been thru a LOT of p/u's & SUV's.
I like the Taco idea. Yes, NO available side airbags, but it will last forever & have great resale. Heck, I had a crummy little '86 toyota p/u w/o even Front airbags. I was going to spring for the TRD off-road package last time I wanted a Taco.
4Runner: I think you've ruled it out--mileage? Maybe 16 mpg with the 6 cyl overall? Nice vehicles, hold a ton of stuff,
& they do depreciate so you can get a nice 2-3 y.o. used one in the low $20's.
just my 2 cents, woody
I can't say enough good about the Pilot. Did a 700 mile round trip yesterday on bad roads, Pilot never missed a beat, not on the ice or the snow covered roads. Hubby was impressed and the best part was he didn't even begin to get uncomfortable until we were 11 miles from home. THAT is a new thing! He drove all day, including in Anchorage. Normally he's whining the whole way home about how uncomfortable he is. So much for his bashing Honda!
I take mine off-road a little bit, nothing major, but it does what I need it to do and doesn't grumble. Just have to watch the ground clearance and slow down over certain bumps/dips.
The Pilot be 4 months old in a week, currently has 9k on it, and I can't find a SINGLE thing I don't like about it and can't think of anything else I'd rather drive. Is that a new record for me?? Could my CCBA days be over??
On another note, we did have a slight slip up and visited the new 08 Super Duty trucks while at the Ford dealer getting bolts to put the old Ford's bumper back on. NICE trucks. The 08 Focus looks good too, glanced at them as we drove around looking for the trucks, lol. No test drives, just looked.
That is how it starts... :P
:-)
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
LOL. Who knew--there's a cure for spousal whining?? And it only took a Pilot. (In Some more advanced cases it could take a M5, or M3, or......for guys a 50" plasma TV may cure it temporarily).
Akangl, I have had the '07 Honda CR-V almost 6 months and 8,900 miles. There is an additional 7,700 of towing miles for a total of 16,600 miles.
I drive the little CR-V every chance that I get as it's comfortable, easy to park and gets 22 city/28 highway. I'm getting a few rock chips on the front and now have a broken fog light (on back order).
I checked at the Honda dealer and they don't have a cover for the front available. I need to check around before I get a broken headlight assembly.
I am now a new Honda fan.... but still love the Land Rover!!!
Mark156
I doubt you will get a broken headlight assembly, they are polycarbonate and are very tough.
Even if there is one "perfect" car for each person, there are, what, a few hundred models of cars on the market at any given time? The chances of any of us stumbling across a cure are small.
The perfect car is a moving target to hit. What would have been my ideal car 5 or 10 years ago ain't going to do it for me now.
I think the best way to do it would be to build a stable of cars for specific purposes. I guess this would be more of a symptom than a cure though.
Whew, thank goodness! For a second there, I was worried.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/Scotchgard-PPF/Home/
Just the ticket for protecting your vehicles front end/
headlights etc. from road rash............
Its sold in rolls and kits to DIY !
A. No, the Department of Transportation does not allow any film of any kind to be put on headlights, foglights or windshields.
That's interesting. I'll bet that they would do it anyway.
james
I have dislikes that style since day-one... too busy looking. Just my personal opinion, but I DO have impeccable taste! :shades:
james
*sigh* I really need to stay away from the newspaper, lol.
Course the downside to the Civic is a reconstruct title, which of course, doesn't bother me as long as the reason isn't too severe. Our Ford has a recon title, but I know why and its no biggie.
Oh and before anyone says it.......The Pilot will not be in danger, lol.
On another note, the stupid dealer put the wrong oil in AGAIN, that's gotten on my nerves enough now that I'm going to switch to synthetic and do change the oil at home. :mad:
Usually though if the price is too good I will dismiss it as a typo or a problem car. Much like your rebuilt Civic. But at that price , how much could you lose.
My Mr2 Spyder quest has led me to 2 candidates. A 2000 with 92k miles for $8500 , in my color(black) and only one owner. The other is a 2001 in silver with 80k miles. This one is on the 5th or 6th owner. He also wants $8500. I think the black one is the better deal, but I am not sure I want to pay that kind of money for a 8 year old car. The black one is at a dealer and went to auction but did not sell.
I can wait a bit longer but I already missed the fall top down weather.
Exactly my thoughts. I might swing by where its sitting today and take a gander at it. I can spot bad body work, paintwork, stuff like that, would have a pretty good idea of what happened to it. There is a limit to what I'll accept with a reconstruct. Our Ford was totalled due to vandalism and its general poor condition thus the reason I wasn't worried about its dirty title.
Speaking of the Ford, we've had that thing for 15 months, put about 15k on it and its been one of the best trucks we've ever owned. We've put very little money into it and the old girl just keeps on kicking. I think its got about 130k or so on it now. Best $2k we've ever spent!
My niece backed into a mailbox, her husband bumped into something on the front, so, a decent running car for cheap and with a young child (now 4.5 yrs old), it doesn't matter if the 'little darl'n" spills stuff in the car or not.
I was ALL against buying this car at first even though it looked really good. I can spot repairs from a mile away and this car had previous front damage that continued all the way down the passenger side. But, the price was cheap for a low mileage 'run-a-bout' wagon. Now, she has over 60,000 miles and has not had any trouble with it... just regular maintenance.
mark156
Or am I making that up?
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Racefan... I'm thinking the fog light was broken when in tow. But, I didn't notice it right away so it could have happened while driving it. I really need to find something to cover the front of the CR-V that is easy to install and remove.
The Motorhome has a long rock guard hanging at the rear. It seems that most campground roads/driveways are made of rock so the tires seem to collect a few rocks. As close as the Honda is to the motorhome you would think it wouldn't be that big of an issue but I do have rock chips on the front bumper cover and a few on the hood.
I was in a sandstorm in the desert a month ago while driving the Honda and now have a pitted windshield.
Mark
I have wanted a Miata since 1988 when I first saw that Mazda was building a 2 seat roadster. I sat in the first one my local dealer got in 1989, at 6'6" there was no way I was going to fit. A couple of years ago my Dad had his for sale , a '95 with 80k mile that he would have sold to me for about $2500, but it was hard to turn the wheel with my knees jammed against it. I have read since about swapping the seats and steering wheel out for smaller ones, but in a car that size I would want the airbag.
The Mr2 is mid engine , which eliminates the transmission hump, making it much more roomy. But, with the Toyota name on it resale over the equivalent Miata is about $2-$3k.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
I may try a 1st gen again to see if the modifications would make it close to comfortable.
james
Almost had a Neon for a tail ornament yesterday. Roads are really slick, guy was driving like it was summer. He hit a slick spot, slammed on his brakes, locked them up and headed straight for the Pilot. I was slowed in a line of merging traffic. Fortunatly I knew what was coming (had been watching him) and left myself enough room where I could get the Pilot out of the way. That's twice this week I've come way too close to being hit, the other time was a woman who lost control of her truck coming at me, thankfully she got it back before she hit me. *starting to look around the Pilot for a target* :surprise:
At least you're in a 4000 lb, solid vehicle with umpteen airbags. I guessing the guy in the Neon would have come out 2nd best if he'd have plowed into a Pilot. A FS p/u, ramming your Pilot, that would be more worrisome (duh).
I really like having a larger, well-built vehicle with tons of safety engineering. My 5-series is built like a German tank, with 6 airbags. Of course nothing is foolproof, but I think driving a tiny car definitely decreases your odds.
PS-AK drivers almost sound worse than Mass. drivers--I didn't think that was possible?
Alaska drivers are the worst, inconsiderate, rude, just horrible. Its combat driving at its finest.
The woman with the truck that almost hit me was trying to avoid another truck. The first truck had pulled out of a local business and had to do a 3 point turn to get turned around on the road. He was blocking both lanes, she came around the corner too fast, swerved to miss him, almost hit the back of my hubby's truck (which was parked at the above mentioned business). She then continued on out of control straight at the Pilot. I was almost stopped, had my turn signal on (getting ready to pull in to the business parking lot). It was close, too close for my liking and I had really no where to go.
One of the MAIN reasons I bought the Pilot was its safety rating, I researched that to death and knew it was a very safe vehicle. The air bags, stability control, traction control, and its size were also pluses. Its as small as I'll go for a family vehicle. I don't mind a small car for errands in the summer, but winter I want my SUV.
There was an accident a month or so ago where a FS chevy truck lost control in the southbound lane, rolled, came across the median upside down and landed partially on an 03 Honda Pilot, both vehicles were then hit by another FS truck. The woman in the Pilot walked away and is buying another Pilot according to my salesguy at the Honda dealership. She was happy with how her car held up and protected her.
Miata no, the MR2 is not bad at all, I don't touch .
Just my foggy recollection.
james
Hardly. The search criteria suck, and the search engine doesn't even work. Each search yields the same results: "Featured Vehicles"
Loser :lemon:
(just my expert opinion) :shades:
james
1Racefan... excellent idea!! I was thinking of using tape but didn't want to use anything too sticky.... the blue tape will work perfect. Thank you for the suggestion!!! :shades:
Mark
I love spending Friday nights doing cleanup on aisle 3. :shades:
I have the 2nd gen. (92) MR2 w/T-tops. At 5' 11" I am in the second to last notch on the seat slider. Wearing a cap, I have a bit of room above my head, but not much. I also have a pad that provides lumbar support that raises the seat height a bit. I'm guessing that the "comfortable" upper limit for a 2nd generation is in the low 6' territory.
There seems to be a number of reasonably low mileage/lfew owner specimens out there for under $5K for NA and under $7K for the turbo version. They're a heck of a lot of car for the money. I'm only the 2nd owner and have had mine for almost 8 years. Other than scheduled maintenance there was a freon leak and some suspension bushings that squeaked.
One significant advantage that the 1st and 2nd Gens have over the last is a functional trunk. I'm always amazed at how much stuff can be fit into it. That makes it a much better weekend cruiser in my opinion.
Gogiboy
Glad to hear from a fellow enthusiast. I've only got 60K on my 92. For a 15+ year old car it looks fantastic--almost as good as my 07 Mazda. Everything still works and it is plenty peppy. I know that Toyota sold a small number solid roof 91-95 2s (no T-Top or Sunroof feature). Those may have slightly more headroom. However, if you can fit in at 6' 4" I would think that would cover a fairly broad spectrum of drivers.
Maybe I missed it, how tall did guss say he was?
Gogiboy
Does anyone have any thoughts on a Z3. I have not even looked at them because I was afraid of the reliability. But for something that might get 4k or 5k miles a year how bad could it be.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S