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  • Karen_SKaren_S Member Posts: 5,092
    A newspaper reporter is seeking interviews with Southern California residents who are members of either the Boomer or Gen Y generations to talk about their first cars. In other words, if you were born between 1946 and 1964 or between 1976 and 2000, we want to hear from you. Please respond to jfallon@edmunds.com no later than Wednesday, November 7, 2007, and provide your daytime contact info and a few words about your first car.


    A newspaper reporter wants to talk with Southern California residents who have comments and/or anecdotes about the area’s car culture. Please respond to jfallon@edmunds.com no later than Wednesday, November 7, 2007, and provide your daytime contact info and a few words about your first car.
  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386
    Exeter is quite nice. My brother teaches summer sessions at the academy. In the regular academic year he teaches at U of Southern Maine. Lives in Portland. This is a nice little set up.

    Silly me down at the Jersey shore....
    2015 Mazda 6 Grand Touring, 2014 Mazda 3 Sport Hatchback, 1999 Mazda Miata 2004 Toyota Camry LE, 1999.
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    Eeewwwwwe Jersey. :P
  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386
    Now. Now. There's great parts in Jersey. Unfortunately, we wrote the book on destroying oceanfront towns.
    2015 Mazda 6 Grand Touring, 2014 Mazda 3 Sport Hatchback, 1999 Mazda Miata 2004 Toyota Camry LE, 1999.
  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,288
    If memory serves, Honda doesn't include roadside assistance as part of their standard warranty either.

    I was shocked that Apple's standard warranty didn't cover onsite service for my iMac--I discovered this when its hard drive crashed a couple of weeks ago. Since I live in the boonies, I had to cart it off 40 miles to the nearest service provider. Thankfully, I had a backup, so I only lost a couple of weeks worth of documents.
  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386
    Correct. Honda includes roadside assistance if you get the Hondacare extended warranty only.

    Not surprising on Apple. I remember my first computer - a Gateway. They shipped it with less memory than I had ordered. I reported that and they said no problem - they would ship the extra memory and call them when it arrived. I did and their first words were - "open up the computer." Gee, thanks, guys.
    2015 Mazda 6 Grand Touring, 2014 Mazda 3 Sport Hatchback, 1999 Mazda Miata 2004 Toyota Camry LE, 1999.
  • akanglakangl Member Posts: 3,282
    Correct. Honda includes roadside assistance if you get the Hondacare extended warranty only.

    That's one of the reasons I purchased the Hondacare ESC. Then again I don't expect it to ever be on the back of a wrecker. Its closing in on 7k miles and so far has been flawless except for the occational hard start, but even that is getting more and more rare.

    I have never owned a car that is so sure footed on the ice/snow. I had to drive home 300 miles on bad roads with stock tires on Sunday, the Pilot never missed a beat. I now have Blizzaks on it and wow, talk about safe and secure. In fact my safe feeling got me into trouble yesterday with the troopers, lol.

    My hubby asked me the other day (since the Pilot is now 3 months old) how I liked it. I told him I have no intention of trading it for a long long time. He breathed a sigh of relief. He knows that by the 3 month mark I'm prowling for a new car, lol. Not this time, I'm very happy with the Pilot. ;)
  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386
    Yeah, on the old Ody I think I used the roadside assistance once on a drained battery that was my own fault. Called the 800 number saying I was in Ontario and they asked "Canada or California?" Canada. 15 minutes and they were there.
    2015 Mazda 6 Grand Touring, 2014 Mazda 3 Sport Hatchback, 1999 Mazda Miata 2004 Toyota Camry LE, 1999.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    hey, hey now. WE didn't destroy them. Its all them darned bennies. ;b

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,288
    I'd have been comfortable installing the hard drive myself, but they told me DIY repair wasn't an option, either.
  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386
    Absolutely. It was the guy who moved down here right after me that screwed things up.
    2015 Mazda 6 Grand Touring, 2014 Mazda 3 Sport Hatchback, 1999 Mazda Miata 2004 Toyota Camry LE, 1999.
  • akanglakangl Member Posts: 3,282
    About a year ago we had the Dodge dealer order a dash piece for the Ram due to a broken vent, under warranty of course. They got the part in but we were unable to get the truck to them in the timeframe they set up. They gave me the part, it was either that or they would have to send it back and we would have to start all over again.

    Now the truck went in last week, so we asked them to install the dash piece. We told them that it should be warranty and we were not willing to pay them to install it (we would have my brother do it instead). They installed it and now want to charge us $51.50 for doing so. Are we obligated to pay for this even though we did not authorize them to do it if we had to pay?

    They refuse to allow us to talk to the service manager and insist that we have to pay. They removed the $51.50 charge for getting the air out of the fuel rail, they still insist that hubby did this to the truck which is crap.

    I'm soooo frustrated with this dealer, same one that jerked me around so badly on the Durango, never repairing it correctly.
  • mark156mark156 Member Posts: 1,915
    Akangl, I'm glad that you like your new Pilot. Every time I see one in the dark grey I think of you.

    Just yesterday, I was in a motorhome park and a couple came up to me as I was trying to disconnect the 'necessaries'. They were asking me about my electric sunvisors. Then they asked me about my Honda CR-V. They thought that the new CR-V couldn't be towed. I told them that it makes an excellent tow vehicle behind the motorhome.

    They tow a 2003 Honda Pilot and love it. If I was needing a larger vehicle the Pilot would be at the top of the list.

    I have 8,300 miles on my CR-V now... great vehicle!!!

    Mark156 :)
    2010 Land Rover LR4, 2013 Honda CR-V, 2009 Bentley GTC, 1990 MB 500SL, 2001 MB S500, 2007 Lincoln TC, 1964 RR Silver Cloud III, 1995 MB E320 Cab., 2015 Prevost Liberty Coach
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    the bennies are the vacationers, not the locals. Although with so many displaced NY'ers, the locals are a problem, too. ;b

    I was born and raised here, same as my mother and father, and all the way back through the Lenni Lenape tribe, so I get to complain about everyone. ;b

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • michaellnomichaellno Member Posts: 4,120
    I've got family in NJ (godparents lived in Moorestown) and I've spent quite a bit of time in the Garden State, both on business and for personal reasons. Once you get away from the Newark area, the state is really pretty, IMO.

    I especially like the shore around where fezo lives, though I haven't been there in a number of years.

    fezo, you still have those "One night in Jersey" pictures?
  • gussguss Member Posts: 1,167
    and all the way back through the Lenni Lenape tribe

    What exit are they from?

    The Jersey Shore is where we vacation every summer. I can't say that I love it, but at least it is only an hour and a half away(and it sure beats the Poconos).
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    What exit are they from?

    LOL!

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    back through the Lenni Lenape tribe so I get to complain about everyone

    Funny I have Cherokee in me so I do the same thing times.
  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386
    Oh, I know on the bennies. Problem is too many of them decide to stay and move here. Now where we are you have a huge flood of people from various parts of Middlesex County who come from towns that hate each other and now they live in the same town. Swell.

    Actually if you pick your towns even right on the coast you can do all right (if you can afford the property). Seaside Heights is lousy to live in but Seaside Park is nice - and you get miles of unspoiled beach just south of it.

    Meanwhile, back on topic, not nearly enough damage to the Accord to get the CCB in me going. I can get away with just replacing a tail light lens.
    2015 Mazda 6 Grand Touring, 2014 Mazda 3 Sport Hatchback, 1999 Mazda Miata 2004 Toyota Camry LE, 1999.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    The clutch in my Accord started acting up yesterday. The wife said "uhoh, sounds like a new car is on the way!"

    we'll see what the dealer finds. But, yeah, this doesn't sit so well with me.

    meanwhile, I also found a super low-mile Benz wagon on craigslist that I may take a look at this weekend if it is still available. It would make 6 vehicles at my house for just the 2 of us. Hmmmm...

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386
    Geeze - you're worse than my dad used to be. Was a time I could come up to the house and see four cars there - not counting the one I was driving up in - and nobody home.

    He would have his good car, a beater car of some sort, a spare he'd lend out when somebody needed one (his previous good car), some nasty old van for deliveries for his business and my mom's car. Good thing it's a big driveway.

    Just the one car there these days and he can't drive anymore.
    2015 Mazda 6 Grand Touring, 2014 Mazda 3 Sport Hatchback, 1999 Mazda Miata 2004 Toyota Camry LE, 1999.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    i consider it a home for wayward vehicles.

    I used to think my driveway was big ... it is getting smaller by the minute.

    We also had alot of vehicles growing up, but there were 5 drivers in the house for a while, then there were project cars scattered about. I'm not sure what the biggest collection was. I'm not sure it ever exceeded 4 projects, so that's 9 including 1 vehicle for each driver. Oh, and all 4 projects were mine ... and none of them were completed before I left for college, so I was forced to give them up.

    Right now it is my Alfa spider, my wife's Bimmer 'vert, her leased SUV, my leased Accord, and a pickup truck for yard work.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • gussguss Member Posts: 1,167
    How in the world do you get away with six cars. I really need to hear the reasons you got each.

    If any of them fit my search for an MR2 Spyder,can I borrow it. Right now all I have is that I really want one , and it will keep the miles of my other car because it is up to 74k. I tried the better gas mileage route but she figured out that the pay back on that would be about 99 years.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    Oh boy!

    well, the Alfa is PW (pre-wife), so I didn't need a reason. Although now the reason to keep it is sentimental, and she knows that and really won't let me sell it, although I've thought about it now and again.

    The bimmer we got for her because she can't drive stick, so no Alfa, and she wanted a little convertible, AND it also keeps miles off her lease, AND it gets better mileage than her SUV.

    The Accord is my daily driver, because lord knows you can't drive an alfa every day (or at least shouldn't if you live in Jersey).

    The pickup is nothing more than a yard tool. And, for $1500, probably the best investment we've made in the house.

    SOOO.. I don't think I got anything here to help ya.

    The 6th car ... well, that's up in the air. We know we want to eliminate at least 1 car payment. So that means when one of the leases is up, we buy a car for cash. In 10 months, her's will be up, and this Benz wagon is just presenting itself a bit early. It may be a "hey, we won't find this deal again in 10 months, so we better buy it now" kind of thing. Or it may not be. But a Benz or Bimmer wagon is definitely on her list of cash cars to replace her SUV. She doesn't want to make the bimmer convertible a daily driver because it doesn't fit the baby stroller and groceries, nor is it easy to put him in and out of (unless the top is down).

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,786
    Have you driven the MR2 spyder yet? I did and it has taken me 2 years to get it out of my system; too cool of a car. :shades: More fun than my old 6cyl Z3.

    25 NX 450h+ / 24 Sienna Plat AWD / 23 Civic Type-R / 21 Boxster GTS 4.0 / 03 Montero Ltd

  • woodywwwoodyww Member Posts: 1,806
    Did you buy the Applecare 3 yr. warranty, or can you still get it? You still have to schlep it for a fix, but 3 yrs. of warranty & phone tech support.
  • woodywwwoodyww Member Posts: 1,806
    wouldn't want a place right in Burlington but something within 20 minutes of it

    The "Five Spice" in Burlington is a great Asian restaurant. And visiting Shelburne Farms on a sunny day is fantastic.

    Of course if you went further out from Burlington you could get 10-20 acres if you really wanted. I looked at some houses in Brattleboro a few months ago. Brattleboro gets great reviews, but for me, I didn't really "get it".

    If you've never seen Woodstock VT, would be well worth a trip or detour. One of the most beautiful towns on the planet, IMO.
  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,288
    It would make 6 vehicles at my house for just the 2 of us.

    You can never have too many cars or dogs!

    My dad had the clutch resurfaced on one of his Hondas when it started to flutter (sort of like resurfacing a brake rotor). Not sure if they still do that, or if replacement is the only option. Edit: Never mind, if it's under warranty, I'm sure they'll replace it.
  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,288
    I think they do onsite service for desktops with the Applecare extended warranty now. I don't have it, though. Were it not under warranty, I would've ordered another drive for $100 and replaced it myself. I still do computer repair work on the side, so I'm comfortable with disassembling it if I need to.

    I'm glad I had a backup. I have some data files that go back to the mid-1990s (most of them are not that important, but still nice to have).
  • akanglakangl Member Posts: 3,282
    Ended up not having to pay a dime. Got there and inspected the dash where they installed the new part, they had damaged the dash and installed the piece incorrectly (its not fitting right). I complained about it, finally they said if we would just take it like it is there would be no charge. We did, will have my little brother fix it, he'll do a far better job than the dealer.

    Still no answer as to why the truck had air in the fuel rail, guess we'll have to wait and see if it happens again.

    The Pilot turned 7k today!
  • gussguss Member Posts: 1,167
    Have you driven the MR2 spyder yet? I did and it has taken me 2 years to get it out of my system; too cool of a car. More fun than my old 6cyl Z3.

    Yea, I have driven a couple. I was trying to get a FSBO but even though convertible season is pretty much over they(although it has been in the 70'sthe last few weeks)want outrageous prices for their cars. I pulled a carfax on one and it had seven owners since 2000. of course the current owner did not see that as a problem. I may try a dealer next, at least they understand that snow is right around the corner.

    I love the Z3 also, but when I test drove one I had to sit sideways to get my leg between the steering wheel and transmission hump. The nice thing about the MR2 being mid engine is that it does not have a hump.
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    My BIL actually works as a Chef in Burlington. He floats between a few different restaurants so we tend to just go where he tells us. I should probably pay more attention to the names of the places he takes. I am pretty sure we have been to Five Spice and he might have even worked there for a time I will ask him.

    Hmhh I wouldn't mind 10-20 acres. Can you say go cart course. :shades:
  • woodywwwoodyww Member Posts: 1,806
    they had damaged the dash and installed the piece incorrectly

    These guys sound like the Keystone Kops of
    automotive repair. The mind boggles that the dealer can't even do a minor repair on their own make of vehicle.

    The Pilot w/Blizzaks sounds like a pretty serious Winter Vehicle.....did you get separate rims, or?
  • boomchekboomchek Member Posts: 5,516
    Just wanted to run this question by the CCBA members here:

    I want to create an offshoot group on facebook called CCBA. But since the group originated here, I'd like to ask everyone's permission first. thx

    2016 Audi A7 3.0T S Line, 2021 Subaru WRX

  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,786
    Now this sounds like a funny idea... :P

    25 NX 450h+ / 24 Sienna Plat AWD / 23 Civic Type-R / 21 Boxster GTS 4.0 / 03 Montero Ltd

  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,288
    Count me in--I'm on Facebook.
  • lilengineerboylilengineerboy Member Posts: 4,116
    Oh no, worlds collide, my internet car geek friends and my real geek friends...
  • akanglakangl Member Posts: 3,282
    These guys sound like the Keystone Kops of
    automotive repair. The mind boggles that the dealer can't even do a minor repair on their own make of vehicle.

    The Pilot w/Blizzaks sounds like a pretty serious Winter Vehicle.....did you get separate rims, or?


    Yup, pretty much, they are morons when it comes to repair. They could not figure out what was wrong with the truck, so they place the blame on the owner. I think this will be the last time they touch that truck, Anchorage is only an extra 200 miles and has a great dealer.

    I did buy separate rims for the Pilot. Ordered tires, rims, and tire pressure sensors from the Tire Rack, got a great price, fast shipping too. Got some nice alloy wheels that were on closeout, look real nice on it too.

    I was in Fairbanks all day today, lots of snow, bad roads, the Pilot never missed a beat. Even passed a semi on the way home having to navigate through 6-8 inches of snow in the passing lane, Pilot was steady and true. Really impressed with it, can't say I've driven better. Its a keeper no doubt! My CCBA days might just be over. Three months, 7200 miles, and I still can't find one single thing I don't like!!!
  • boomchekboomchek Member Posts: 5,516
    Ok, the group is called Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous, just like here. Same points/level structure as here.

    Should be easy to find, if not, look up my profile: Maciej Buczek. Thx guys.

    By the way, I'm itching for a new car now as fall is usually my car buying time. The Benz C240 has been so-so. We took it down to LA and Vegas on our honeymoon and on the way back the alternator/charging system was acting up, right between Vegas and LA, so we had to to go back to LA and get it fixed ($1k later). Before that I changed the cam and crank shaft sensor, and did an oil change and that cost me $1k.

    Seems like anything you touch on the car is $1k a pop.

    For some reason I had my eye on a bare bones Hyundai Accent htchback. Good on gas, cheap to buy, low rates (0.9%), and it will help me save money over the Benz as I commute a lot now.

    Others cars I've been eyeing were: Dodge Charger, Mazda3 Sport, The Accent, The Fusion, Chevy Impala, the new Malibu.

    I'll get more serious on ti when we come back from our 3 week honeymoon.

    2016 Audi A7 3.0T S Line, 2021 Subaru WRX

  • steine13steine13 Member Posts: 2,825
    You are being nickled and dimed.

    Trouble is, as you're finding out, that a German nickel is $1,000...

    -Mathias
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    man, i have NO idea what you are talking about. Facebook? Ain't that a bad Nick Cage movie?

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,288
    Can't speak for others, but I'm probably not that different than your real geek friends. In undergrad, I majored in Computer Science with a minor in math.
  • woodywwwoodyww Member Posts: 1,806
    I dunno man. Not to be rude, but I remember that I tried to talk you out of trading your almost new Honda for the used Benz. And then trading the Benz for a Hyundai?? I remember Terry saying once to someone about their car trades: "I think you're going in the wrong direction".

    OTOH, your brain cells may be pretty much destroyed after a 3 week honeymoon, anyway, so who cares? But seriously, good luck with the cars, your honeymoon, etc.......Woody
  • tifightertifighter Member Posts: 3,786
    I seem to recall that exchange about buying the benz too. But, everyone has to find this out on their own...I learned during an Audi phase... :sick:

    25 NX 450h+ / 24 Sienna Plat AWD / 23 Civic Type-R / 21 Boxster GTS 4.0 / 03 Montero Ltd

  • woodywwwoodyww Member Posts: 1,806
    everyone has to find this out on their own...I learned during an Audi phase

    I learned it during a Range Rover phase. One of the 2 most gorgeous vehicles I ever owned, but as it was in the shop all the time, I finally bailed. As much trouble as it was, I still miss it, in some wierd way.

    Haven't had the guts to buy an Audi yet, but every one I've ever test driven, I've liked/wanted.....& I haven't even driven an "S" yet......(???)
  • boomchekboomchek Member Posts: 5,516
    Yes, I remeber all the warnings from you guys about getting the car. :blush::blush:

    I do like it but 1: I'm getting bored with it, and 2: it does cost a lot to run. Since I'm still young, I'd want to save some money and invest it (hence might get something barebones for now at least) instead of putting it into the Benz. Another option might be finisheing paying it off and parking it for a bit, while getting something cheap for a daily driver.

    I don't mind making a sacrifice for now in terms of my car status (Benz to Hyundai). The end justifies the means, I could say.

    I'll look closely into it when we return from our honeymoon.

    2016 Audi A7 3.0T S Line, 2021 Subaru WRX

  • nippononlynippononly Member Posts: 12,555
    That's Face OFF. And it's not so bad...

    ;-)

    2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)

  • gussguss Member Posts: 1,167
    Have you run any of this past your new bride yet? She may have different plans....
  • michaellnomichaellno Member Posts: 4,120
    Scion xD ... with 5-speed stick. Grey with black interior.

    I have to admit that for a small car, the xD has a lot of content:

    Power everything
    Cruise
    ABS/Traction Control/ESC
    Aux jack AND an iPod connector

    I took it on a test drive of city streets only, so no idea how it would handle my mostly interstate commute. Not bad power (128HP), and the stick shift is quite nice .. the last stick I drove regularly was the Focus, and Toyota has got them beat hands down.

    Pretty flexible interior .. rear seat reclines, and also slides back and forth to increase leg room or cargo room as necessary.

    The only thing I'm not sure of is the IP .. the speedo and tach share the same dial (at least it's in front of the driver this time), but the tach needle rotates counter-clockwise - 0 RPM is at 6 o'clock, while 8K RPM is at around 1:30 or so. Just strange.

    Quiet riding and had a quasi-SUV seating experience. Not a lot of legroom, however .. andre would almost certainly not fit.

    I think I need to drive it again, for a longer period, to decide if I like it or not.

    Best part is that the lease rates are crazy low ... around $225/mo for a 48mo/48K lease with about a grand to start.
  • lilengineerboylilengineerboy Member Posts: 4,116
    The only thing I'm not sure of is the IP .. the speedo and tach share the same dial (at least it's in front of the driver this time), but the tach needle rotates counter-clockwise - 0 RPM is at 6 o'clock, while 8K RPM is at around 1:30 or so. Just strange.

    This is what happens when the styling guys don't talk to the usability guys. PASS.
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