Chronic Car Buyers Anonymous (Archived)

stickguy

well, if we decided to get one, I can guarantee this is the color combo my wife would pick. Not that they are offering any kind of discount. Guess that would take some work!

other than color, identical to the one I drove other than that had the base 18" wheels. Which are fine by me, but these 19s are not too bad.

https://www.volvoofhasbrouckheights.com/commercial-new/Volvo/2020-Volvo-XC60-hasbrouck-heights-nj-914297050a0e0a6b41a40163b297d204.htm

nyccarguy

xwesx said:

Yeah, as boring as it might be, a Prius is probably a really good choice for her needs.

I think you might be right. My Tacoma experience has shown me that Toyota’s are built extremely well. I’m also open to a nicely incentivized EV lease.

nyccarguy

benjaminh said:

nyccarguy said:

So the other night I casually mentioned to my wife how were were both piling the miles on my truck & her Pilot. Since she does get paid to drive between patients (not from home to patient #1 and not from last patient to home). She is doing home care full time now. I said that maybe we should look into getting her a smaller, more fuel efficient vehicle to drive for work. Usually she scoffs at my schemes ideas and wants to buy a car and keep it payment free like @stickguy 's wife. She called me today as she was maneuvering her way around a tight parking garage and said: "I thought you were going to look into getting me a smaller car to drive for work. What ever happened with that?"

What kind of size and budget do you think she has in mind?

Budget I’m not sure of yet. I’ve got to check her pay stubs to see just how much she’s been getting paid for mileage on a bi-weekly basis.

Still in the planning stages.

benjaminh

stickguy said:

....
https://www.volvoofhasbrouckheights.com/commercial-new/Volvo/2020-Volvo-XC60-hasbrouck-heights-nj-914297050a0e0a6b41a40163b297d204.htm

That Volvo looks great inside and out!++ Excellent color combination. But the price is substantial.

Is the cargo area room behind the second seat as compact as the specifications seem to indicate? Even if that's the case I guess you can always fold the seats down....

corvette

@nyccarguy would this be an addition to the fleet? Corollas appear to be leasing under $200/month with zero down.

nyccarguy

corvette said:

@nyccarguy would this be an addition to the fleet? Corollas appear to be leasing under $200/month with zero down.

Yes. An addition to the fleet.

Sandman6472

Saw a pic for the new Audi A3 hatch and it looks great. The wife walked by and asked what it was, so I told her. She doesn't get why I like a hatchback and thinks that a new vehicle is just not needed now. Explaining why it's wanted and not needed would be a fruitless gesture. Of course I don't need a new vehicle, that's not the point. I want something newer, pure & simple. But with all the new stuff coming out within the year, waiting is probably not the worst idea in the world.
Still intrigued with the new Buick Encore X that I saw in Vero Beach Friday. Watched a YouTube video on it before seeing one in person and was smitten then. It fits size wise, it's a hatch & it looks great. Just not in love with the dash, it's basically the same Encore dash which is just o k, not like the other new tablet size systems that are the rage now. And wanting to see what VW does decide to do, probably a good thing to wait. Now if my Golf starts to f up and start costing me, then things will change. Can just sit back, do my research and watch all the rest of ya swap out your fleets. I'll just put that money back into savings until I find the perfect one. And, still loving my Golf especially when it's clean. Now, it needs a bath!!

Sandman6472

Drove a Dodge Durango again today and liked it. Also drove a Ram truck. Both had ample power to merge onto the turnpike which felt great. Delivered some vehicles to the local Ford store and they had a $30K Escape in their showroom, $30K!!! And it wasn't even a Titanium model, their top of the line. Ford higher ups must be doing drugs to even have an MSRP plus add-ons for over $30K. Made me so confused actually because an Escape is no way worth north of that much in any universe. Guess that's a big reason we have never had a Ford, and probably never will!

benjaminh

Review of 2020 Civic Si with adaptive dampers and limited slip differential.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK5ARLo1ho4

corvette

Sandman6472 said:

Made me so confused actually because an Escape is no way worth north of that much in any universe. Guess that's a big reason we have never had a Ford, and probably never will!

Generally, there are incentives available to bring them down to more competitive prices. But, sticker shock definitely deters a lot of people. Also, the Escape can be equipped to a higher level than most competitors--the CR-V and RAV4 don't offer a powertrain that's competitive with the larger 2.0 liter turbo in the Escape.

stickguy

the cargo area seemed fine to me. at least comparable to our RDX. and when you fold down the seats, tons of room.

breld

benjaminh said:

@breld : Didn't you get an amazing deal on your Volvo? Would you remind us?

Right place, right time. The dealer had 2 2019 V90’s left and with lease incentives, the discount was just under $20k.

fintail

Given the seemingly dozens or likely more than 100 cars sitting at my local dealer's offsite storage lot, I bet deals can be had.

benjaminh

Alex on Autos explains Honda's hybrid system, including why there isn't a transmission....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P_VChtMGK8

benjaminh

Good deals are available on the Lincoln Corsair, which is built in Louisville.

Sandman6472

That Corsair looks like a Ford Escape except at a higher price point due to it being a Lincoln. Sill, crazy pricing for that also. Am betting that both of them sell poorly compared to the CR-V. Right before I left Hertz, we took delivery of a mess load of new 2020 Escape's and they did drive nicely but thinking at a price of around $21K, might tempt even myself to take a serious look. Though the mpg's are nothing to write home about. And I'd have to have their updated Sony audio system that the Titanium model has as it's a much better system. Their 2018 Focus Titanium models we got had the Sony system and it rocked. A shame they got rid of the Focus just as they finally fixed their wonky auto tranny.
But, we've never been Ford people to be honest. Our '66 & '72 Lincoln Continentals were pretty good but that '72 Torino Sport was just awful having to be towed back to the dealer within 20 minutes. My friend and I were driving it home when things kinda went to hell as it kept stalling out and then finally quit. My folks should've just kept the Mustang demo we got to use till they could fix the Torino properly.

benjaminh

Sandman6472 said:

That Corsair looks like a Ford Escape except at a higher price point due to it being a Lincoln....

Although a few of the underpinnings of the Corsair are based on the new Escape platform, and the engine is quite similar Ford's 2.0 turbo, the Corsair is a much better looking vehicle with a much more luxurious interior. And one small advantage Lincolns have over other luxury cars is that they can use regular gas.

tjc78

I've seen quite a few Corsairs this week. If that was the size class we needed, I'd be all over it.

Very nice.

stickguy

it is nice looking. but that one is a non-starter. No moonroof! Plus I don't think the wife would go for it. Maybe on a cheap lease. who knows. Also, that center stack at an angle I think is an acquired taste.

oldfarmer50

Sandman6472 said:

Saw a pic for the new Audi A3 hatch and it looks great. The wife walked by and asked what it was, so I told her. She doesn't get why I like a hatchback and thinks that a new vehicle is just not needed now. Explaining why it's wanted and not needed would be a fruitless gesture. Of course I don't need a new vehicle, that's not the point. I want something newer, pure & simple. But with all the new stuff coming out within the year, waiting is probably not the worst idea in the world.
Still intrigued with the new Buick Encore X that I saw in Vero Beach Friday. Watched a YouTube video on it before seeing one in person and was smitten then. It fits size wise, it's a hatch & it looks great. Just not in love with the dash, it's basically the same Encore dash which is just o k, not like the other new tablet size systems that are the rage now. And wanting to see what VW does decide to do, probably a good thing to wait. Now if my Golf starts to f up and start costing me, then things will change. Can just sit back, do my research and watch all the rest of ya swap out your fleets. I'll just put that money back into savings until I find the perfect one. And, still loving my Golf especially when it's clean. Now, it needs a bath!!

You could always present it to your wife as a choice. Would she rather have you chasing other metal or other women?

ab348

benjaminh said:

Sandman6472 said:

That Corsair looks like a Ford Escape except at a higher price point due to it being a Lincoln....

Although a few of the underpinnings of the Corsair are based on the new Escape platform, and the engine is quite similar Ford's 2.0 turbo, the Corsair is a much better looking vehicle with a much more luxurious interior. And one small advantage Lincolns have over other luxury cars is that they can use regular gas.

I think it's more than just "a few of the underpinnings". I understand it is a rebodied Escape, built in the same Louisville plant, nicely tarted up. I would still be hesitant of Lincoln given Ford's well-documented problems with quality, recalls and launch issues.

graphicguy

benjaminh said:

Review of 2020 Civic Si with adaptive dampers and limited slip differential.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK5ARLo1ho4

Can’t quite put my finger on why, but I’ve seen this guy’s videos before. He irks me for some reason.

benjaminh

ab348 said:

I think it's more than just "a few of the underpinnings". I understand it is a rebodied Escape, built in the same Louisville plant, nicely tarted up. I would still be hesitant of Lincoln given Ford's well-documented problems with quality, recalls and launch issues.

Good points.

Motor Trend adds that....

"Although it shares the same new front-wheel-drive platform as the 2020 Escape, Ford has designed and engineered two very different vehicles. Few buyers will confuse or even cross-shop them. The Corsair is longer and wider, and the floating roof sits lower. It costs more, but there's evidence that you get what you pay for. "A solid and surprising offering from Lincoln," editor-in-chief Ed Loh said....The Lincoln has a more advanced suspension than the Escape with a new rear integral bush suspension....Evans thought the floating center console and ergonomically pleasing slanted buttons gave the Corsair a mid-century modern vibe. Controls on the elegant steering wheel are kept to a minimum and are easy to use, especially the push-to-talk button where the thumb rests—an aha moment that should become an industry standard. "

https://www.motortrend.com/cars/lincoln/corsair/2020/2020-lincoln-corsair-first-test-review/

But I would hesitate to get a Ford/Lincoln product too, esp. in its first year.

But if someone is buying a loaded Escape it would be worth considering the relatively loaded "base" model of the Corsair imho. As stickguy says it lacks a moonroof, but otherwise has blind spot monitoring, remote start, heated power seats, etc., etc. The interior of the base Corsair is beyond what you get in a loaded Escape for somewhere around the same msrp.

stickguy

I would consider a Corsair but not an Escape at this point. But I think just a lease.

nyccarguy

A couple of interesting CPO Hondas. Not sure about the price:

https://www.mtkiscohonda.com/inventory/certified-used-2016-honda-civic-sedan-ex-t-front-wheel-drive-4dr-car-19xfc1f34ge220638

https://www.mtkiscohonda.com/inventory/certified-used-2017-honda-accord-sedan-ex-l-v6-front-wheel-drive-4dr-car-1hgcr3f80ha000671

corvette

Come to Cincinnati - here's a fairly loaded Prius at one of kyfdx's favorite used car lots:
https://www.rallye-motors.com/vdp/13845486/Used-2015-Toyota-Prius-Four-for-sale-in-Cincinnati-OH-45215

corvette

Here's the official word on the fuel reserve in the Tundra:


Right at four gallons with either the standard or high capacity tank. Unfortunately, according to the forum posts I've been able to find, it simply isn't true. According to multiple owners, with the standard tank, the light comes on when there are six gallons remaining, and eight gallons with the high capacity (38 gallon) tank, which explains how I was able to fill up with 32 gallons after driving a decent ways after the light came on.

qbrozen

graphicguy said:

Can’t quite put my finger on why, but I’ve seen this guy’s videos before. He irks me for some reason.

I'm with you. He's awful. Too animated and spends way too much time pointing out unimportant details.

Regarding the car, I'm disappointed they still can't get the 0-60 down to 6 secs. For $26k, I'll take a GLI.

stickguy

For the price of that 2016 civic, better off buying new.

And on the tundra, I would still never see that light come on!

stickguy

I did sit in a new Corolla yesterday. A pretty base LE I think. About 21k sticker. It did nothing for me. Kinda odd actually b

corvette

stickguy said:

And on the tundra, I would still never see that light come on!

I'll try to keep better track of how it behaves on the next tank that I run fairly low. My recollection is that it dropped very precipitously once it hit 1/4 tank, so that may be my cue to start looking for a gas station.

stickguy

I almost never let it go below a quarter anyway.

nyccarguy

corvette said:

stickguy said:

And on the tundra, I would still never see that light come on!

I'll try to keep better track of how it behaves on the next tank that I run fairly low. My recollection is that it dropped very precipitously once it hit 1/4 tank, so that may be my cue to start looking for a gas station.

I have found the "Range" or "Distance To Empty" in the Tacoma to be very accurate.

Michaell

nyccarguy said:

corvette said:

stickguy said:

And on the tundra, I would still never see that light come on!

I'll try to keep better track of how it behaves on the next tank that I run fairly low. My recollection is that it dropped very precipitously once it hit 1/4 tank, so that may be my cue to start looking for a gas station.

I have found the "Range" or "Distance To Empty" in the Tacoma to be very accurate.

The DTE on the Outback is at 30 miles; I'll likely fill it up the next time I'm out running errands.

fintail

First Germanic ICE quirk in the wagon yesterday. I noticed when I started it, a little light was blinking on the console, and the various airbag lights weren't illuminating. I also wasn't able to select nav/media/radio with the console buttons, only with the control wheel. Restarted the car, and everything was normal.

stickguy

Was out and about this afternoon so stopped at Honda dealer. Of course the one hybrid they got and showed on the website already sold. And no real answer on when they were getting more. Quite annoying.


Did sit in a passport. Still felt big, but not terribly long.

ronsteve

stickguy said:

Did sit in a passport. Still felt big, but not terribly long.

That's what she said.

qbrozen

this has to be a mistake.

stickguy

Hit buy and see what happens. Other than your wife chasing you around the dining room table. And you only have 1 good leg.

corvette

"Get me out of my existing lease"

explorerx4

The DTE in my vehicles comes on when 50 miles left. When it hits zero, there is about a 50 mile reserve, so 2-1/2 to 3 gallons in the truck and 2 gallons in the car.

tjc78

That can't be accurate for the Silverado.

I would think most people who need a 3500 don't lease and buy since it's going to be used as a true "truck"

tjc78

I have taken any car I've owned to "0" DTE and didn't run out of gas.

All gas gauges lie. If they didn't more people would be running out of gas.

ronsteve

explorerx4 said:

The DTE in my vehicles comes on when 50 miles left. When it hits zero, there is about a 50 mile reserve, so 2-1/2 to 3 gallons in the truck and 2 gallons in the car.

My "low fuel" alert in the RDX comes on while showing a DTE that's usually around 40 miles, which would imply between 1.5 and 2 gallons remaining. Reality at the pump is it takes about 13.5 to fill my 16 gal tank.

In the Jetta, when the light comes on the indicated DTE is 30 miles. Usually takes close to 14 of the published 14.5 capacity. We have seriously run it down before, not by my choice, so I guess I should be thanking the Fuel Pump Gods.

roadburner

benjaminh said:

Review of 2020 Civic Si with adaptive dampers and limited slip differential.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK5ARLo1ho4

If I wanted another FWD hot hatch(I doubt that I ever will) it would almost certainly be a Veloster N.

roadburner

The BMWs gives you a 60 mile DTE and then reminds you again at 30 miles.

ronsteve

tjc78 said:

I have taken any car I've owned to "0" DTE and didn't run out of gas.

All gas gauges lie. If they didn't more people would be running out of gas.

And then there was the time the gas gage on my V70 stopped working, but I was still determined to stretch a tank to get into VA. Might have been a little OCD with my MPG readout (DTE stopped working when it didn't know the level) but got 450 miles out of it, and still had 2 gal to spare.

tjc78

We had a second generation Altima at the office years ago. I took it on a long road trip and squeezed over 500 miles out of the tank. I remember putting a full 18 gallons in it.

corvette

I owned both a 3rd gen and 4th gen Altima. They had 20 gallon tanks, which is huge for a midsize sedan. I think the low fuel warning comes on on Nissans with about four gallons left, but the DTE is relatively accurate up until the last gallon or two.

xwesx

explorerx4 said:

The DTE in my vehicles comes on when 50 miles left. When it hits zero, there is about a 50 mile reserve, so 2-1/2 to 3 gallons in the truck and 2 gallons in the car.

Yes, the one in the Q7 is distance-based as well. It will come on at 60 miles estimated, IIRC, regardless of the amount left in the tank. In the winter, if I fill up immediately after the warning strikes, I tend to fill just under 22 gallons. During the summer months, the same timing allows a fill of 23+.