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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,440
    well, if we decided to get one, I can guarantee this is the color combo my wife would pick. Not that they are offering any kind of discount. Guess that would take some work!

    other than color, identical to the one I drove other than that had the base 18" wheels. Which are fine by me, but these 19s are not too bad.

    https://www.volvoofhasbrouckheights.com/commercial-new/Volvo/2020-Volvo-XC60-hasbrouck-heights-nj-914297050a0e0a6b41a40163b297d204.htm

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,519
    xwesx said:

    Yeah, as boring as it might be, a Prius is probably a really good choice for her needs.

    I think you might be right. My Tacoma experience has shown me that Toyota’s are built extremely well. I’m also open to a nicely incentivized EV lease.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,519
    benjaminh said:

    nyccarguy said:

    So the other night I casually mentioned to my wife how were were both piling the miles on my truck & her Pilot. Since she does get paid to drive between patients (not from home to patient #1 and not from last patient to home). She is doing home care full time now. I said that maybe we should look into getting her a smaller, more fuel efficient vehicle to drive for work. Usually she scoffs at my schemes ideas and wants to buy a car and keep it payment free like @stickguy 's wife. She called me today as she was maneuvering her way around a tight parking garage and said: "I thought you were going to look into getting me a smaller car to drive for work. What ever happened with that?"

    What kind of size and budget do you think she has in mind?
    Budget I’m not sure of yet. I’ve got to check her pay stubs to see just how much she’s been getting paid for mileage on a bi-weekly basis.

    Still in the planning stages.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD

  • benjaminhbenjaminh Member Posts: 6,558
    stickguy said:
    That Volvo looks great inside and out!++ Excellent color combination. But the price is substantial.

    Is the cargo area room behind the second seat as compact as the specifications seem to indicate? Even if that's the case I guess you can always fold the seats down....
    2018 Acura TLX 2.4 Tech 4WS (mine), 2024 Subaru Outback (wife's), 2018 Honda CR-V EX (offspring)
  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,316
    @nyccarguy would this be an addition to the fleet? Corollas appear to be leasing under $200/month with zero down.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,519
    corvette said:

    @nyccarguy would this be an addition to the fleet? Corollas appear to be leasing under $200/month with zero down.

    Yes. An addition to the fleet.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD

  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Member Posts: 7,229
    Saw a pic for the new Audi A3 hatch and it looks great. The wife walked by and asked what it was, so I told her. She doesn't get why I like a hatchback and thinks that a new vehicle is just not needed now. Explaining why it's wanted and not needed would be a fruitless gesture. Of course I don't need a new vehicle, that's not the point. I want something newer, pure & simple. But with all the new stuff coming out within the year, waiting is probably not the worst idea in the world.
    Still intrigued with the new Buick Encore X that I saw in Vero Beach Friday. Watched a YouTube video on it before seeing one in person and was smitten then. It fits size wise, it's a hatch & it looks great. Just not in love with the dash, it's basically the same Encore dash which is just o k, not like the other new tablet size systems that are the rage now. And wanting to see what VW does decide to do, probably a good thing to wait. Now if my Golf starts to f up and start costing me, then things will change. Can just sit back, do my research and watch all the rest of ya swap out your fleets. I'll just put that money back into savings until I find the perfect one. And, still loving my Golf especially when it's clean. Now, it needs a bath!!

    2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2025 VW GTI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)

  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Member Posts: 7,229
    Drove a Dodge Durango again today and liked it. Also drove a Ram truck. Both had ample power to merge onto the turnpike which felt great. Delivered some vehicles to the local Ford store and they had a $30K Escape in their showroom, $30K!!! And it wasn't even a Titanium model, their top of the line. Ford higher ups must be doing drugs to even have an MSRP plus add-ons for over $30K. Made me so confused actually because an Escape is no way worth north of that much in any universe. Guess that's a big reason we have never had a Ford, and probably never will!

    2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2025 VW GTI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)

  • benjaminhbenjaminh Member Posts: 6,558
    edited March 2020
    Review of 2020 Civic Si with adaptive dampers and limited slip differential.....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK5ARLo1ho4
    2018 Acura TLX 2.4 Tech 4WS (mine), 2024 Subaru Outback (wife's), 2018 Honda CR-V EX (offspring)
  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,316

    Made me so confused actually because an Escape is no way worth north of that much in any universe. Guess that's a big reason we have never had a Ford, and probably never will!

    Generally, there are incentives available to bring them down to more competitive prices. But, sticker shock definitely deters a lot of people. Also, the Escape can be equipped to a higher level than most competitors--the CR-V and RAV4 don't offer a powertrain that's competitive with the larger 2.0 liter turbo in the Escape.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,440
    edited March 2020
    the cargo area seemed fine to me. at least comparable to our RDX. and when you fold down the seats, tons of room.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,932
    benjaminh said:

    @breld : Didn't you get an amazing deal on your Volvo? Would you remind us?

    Right place, right time. The dealer had 2 2019 V90’s left and with lease incentives, the discount was just under $20k.

    2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2025 BRZ - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,462
    Given the seemingly dozens or likely more than 100 cars sitting at my local dealer's offsite storage lot, I bet deals can be had.
  • benjaminhbenjaminh Member Posts: 6,558
    edited March 2020
    Alex on Autos explains Honda's hybrid system, including why there isn't a transmission....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P_VChtMGK8
    2018 Acura TLX 2.4 Tech 4WS (mine), 2024 Subaru Outback (wife's), 2018 Honda CR-V EX (offspring)
  • benjaminhbenjaminh Member Posts: 6,558
    edited March 2020
    Good deals are available on the Lincoln Corsair, which is built in Louisville.









    2018 Acura TLX 2.4 Tech 4WS (mine), 2024 Subaru Outback (wife's), 2018 Honda CR-V EX (offspring)
  • Sandman6472Sandman6472 Member Posts: 7,229
    That Corsair looks like a Ford Escape except at a higher price point due to it being a Lincoln. Sill, crazy pricing for that also. Am betting that both of them sell poorly compared to the CR-V. Right before I left Hertz, we took delivery of a mess load of new 2020 Escape's and they did drive nicely but thinking at a price of around $21K, might tempt even myself to take a serious look. Though the mpg's are nothing to write home about. And I'd have to have their updated Sony audio system that the Titanium model has as it's a much better system. Their 2018 Focus Titanium models we got had the Sony system and it rocked. A shame they got rid of the Focus just as they finally fixed their wonky auto tranny.
    But, we've never been Ford people to be honest. Our '66 & '72 Lincoln Continentals were pretty good but that '72 Torino Sport was just awful having to be towed back to the dealer within 20 minutes. My friend and I were driving it home when things kinda went to hell as it kept stalling out and then finally quit. My folks should've just kept the Mustang demo we got to use till they could fix the Torino properly.

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  • benjaminhbenjaminh Member Posts: 6,558
    edited March 2020

    That Corsair looks like a Ford Escape except at a higher price point due to it being a Lincoln....

    Although a few of the underpinnings of the Corsair are based on the new Escape platform, and the engine is quite similar Ford's 2.0 turbo, the Corsair is a much better looking vehicle with a much more luxurious interior. And one small advantage Lincolns have over other luxury cars is that they can use regular gas.
    2018 Acura TLX 2.4 Tech 4WS (mine), 2024 Subaru Outback (wife's), 2018 Honda CR-V EX (offspring)
  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,018
    I've seen quite a few Corsairs this week. If that was the size class we needed, I'd be all over it.

    Very nice.

    2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,440
    it is nice looking. but that one is a non-starter. No moonroof! Plus I don't think the wife would go for it. Maybe on a cheap lease. who knows. Also, that center stack at an angle I think is an acquired taste.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • oldfarmer50oldfarmer50 Member Posts: 24,237
    edited March 2020

    Saw a pic for the new Audi A3 hatch and it looks great. The wife walked by and asked what it was, so I told her. She doesn't get why I like a hatchback and thinks that a new vehicle is just not needed now. Explaining why it's wanted and not needed would be a fruitless gesture. Of course I don't need a new vehicle, that's not the point. I want something newer, pure & simple. But with all the new stuff coming out within the year, waiting is probably not the worst idea in the world.
    Still intrigued with the new Buick Encore X that I saw in Vero Beach Friday. Watched a YouTube video on it before seeing one in person and was smitten then. It fits size wise, it's a hatch & it looks great. Just not in love with the dash, it's basically the same Encore dash which is just o k, not like the other new tablet size systems that are the rage now. And wanting to see what VW does decide to do, probably a good thing to wait. Now if my Golf starts to f up and start costing me, then things will change. Can just sit back, do my research and watch all the rest of ya swap out your fleets. I'll just put that money back into savings until I find the perfect one. And, still loving my Golf especially when it's clean. Now, it needs a bath!!

    You could always present it to your wife as a choice. Would she rather have you chasing other metal or other women? :p

    2019 Kia Soul+, 2015 Mustang GT, 2013 Ford F-150, 2000 Chrysler Sebring convertible

  • ab348ab348 Member Posts: 20,319
    benjaminh said:

    That Corsair looks like a Ford Escape except at a higher price point due to it being a Lincoln....

    Although a few of the underpinnings of the Corsair are based on the new Escape platform, and the engine is quite similar Ford's 2.0 turbo, the Corsair is a much better looking vehicle with a much more luxurious interior. And one small advantage Lincolns have over other luxury cars is that they can use regular gas.
    I think it's more than just "a few of the underpinnings". I understand it is a rebodied Escape, built in the same Louisville plant, nicely tarted up. I would still be hesitant of Lincoln given Ford's well-documented problems with quality, recalls and launch issues.

    2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6

  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,126
    benjaminh said:

    Review of 2020 Civic Si with adaptive dampers and limited slip differential.....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK5ARLo1ho4

    Can’t quite put my finger on why, but I’ve seen this guy’s videos before. He irks me for some reason.
    2024 Kia EV6 GT-Line AWD Long Range
  • benjaminhbenjaminh Member Posts: 6,558
    edited March 2020
    ab348 said:



    I think it's more than just "a few of the underpinnings". I understand it is a rebodied Escape, built in the same Louisville plant, nicely tarted up. I would still be hesitant of Lincoln given Ford's well-documented problems with quality, recalls and launch issues.

    Good points.

    Motor Trend adds that....

    "Although it shares the same new front-wheel-drive platform as the 2020 Escape, Ford has designed and engineered two very different vehicles. Few buyers will confuse or even cross-shop them. The Corsair is longer and wider, and the floating roof sits lower. It costs more, but there's evidence that you get what you pay for. "A solid and surprising offering from Lincoln," editor-in-chief Ed Loh said....The Lincoln has a more advanced suspension than the Escape with a new rear integral bush suspension....Evans thought the floating center console and ergonomically pleasing slanted buttons gave the Corsair a mid-century modern vibe. Controls on the elegant steering wheel are kept to a minimum and are easy to use, especially the push-to-talk button where the thumb rests—an aha moment that should become an industry standard. "

    https://www.motortrend.com/cars/lincoln/corsair/2020/2020-lincoln-corsair-first-test-review/

    But I would hesitate to get a Ford/Lincoln product too, esp. in its first year.

    But if someone is buying a loaded Escape it would be worth considering the relatively loaded "base" model of the Corsair imho. As stickguy says it lacks a moonroof, but otherwise has blind spot monitoring, remote start, heated power seats, etc., etc. The interior of the base Corsair is beyond what you get in a loaded Escape for somewhere around the same msrp.
    2018 Acura TLX 2.4 Tech 4WS (mine), 2024 Subaru Outback (wife's), 2018 Honda CR-V EX (offspring)
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,440
    I would consider a Corsair but not an Escape at this point. But I think just a lease.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,316
    edited March 2020
    Come to Cincinnati - here's a fairly loaded Prius at one of kyfdx's favorite used car lots:
    https://www.rallye-motors.com/vdp/13845486/Used-2015-Toyota-Prius-Four-for-sale-in-Cincinnati-OH-45215
  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,316
    Here's the official word on the fuel reserve in the Tundra:


    Right at four gallons with either the standard or high capacity tank. Unfortunately, according to the forum posts I've been able to find, it simply isn't true. According to multiple owners, with the standard tank, the light comes on when there are six gallons remaining, and eight gallons with the high capacity (38 gallon) tank, which explains how I was able to fill up with 32 gallons after driving a decent ways after the light came on.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,748


    Can’t quite put my finger on why, but I’ve seen this guy’s videos before. He irks me for some reason.

    I'm with you. He's awful. Too animated and spends way too much time pointing out unimportant details.

    Regarding the car, I'm disappointed they still can't get the 0-60 down to 6 secs. For $26k, I'll take a GLI.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,440
    For the price of that 2016 civic, better off buying new.

    And on the tundra, I would still never see that light come on!

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,440
    I did sit in a new Corolla yesterday. A pretty base LE I think. About 21k sticker. It did nothing for me. Kinda odd actually b

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,316
    stickguy said:

    And on the tundra, I would still never see that light come on!

    I'll try to keep better track of how it behaves on the next tank that I run fairly low. My recollection is that it dropped very precipitously once it hit 1/4 tank, so that may be my cue to start looking for a gas station.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,440
    I almost never let it go below a quarter anyway.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,519
    corvette said:

    stickguy said:

    And on the tundra, I would still never see that light come on!

    I'll try to keep better track of how it behaves on the next tank that I run fairly low. My recollection is that it dropped very precipitously once it hit 1/4 tank, so that may be my cue to start looking for a gas station.
    I have found the "Range" or "Distance To Empty" in the Tacoma to be very accurate.

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  • MichaellMichaell Moderator Posts: 263,029
    nyccarguy said:

    corvette said:

    stickguy said:

    And on the tundra, I would still never see that light come on!

    I'll try to keep better track of how it behaves on the next tank that I run fairly low. My recollection is that it dropped very precipitously once it hit 1/4 tank, so that may be my cue to start looking for a gas station.
    I have found the "Range" or "Distance To Empty" in the Tacoma to be very accurate.
    The DTE on the Outback is at 30 miles; I'll likely fill it up the next time I'm out running errands.

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  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,462
    First Germanic ICE quirk in the wagon yesterday. I noticed when I started it, a little light was blinking on the console, and the various airbag lights weren't illuminating. I also wasn't able to select nav/media/radio with the console buttons, only with the control wheel. Restarted the car, and everything was normal.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,440
    Was out and about this afternoon so stopped at Honda dealer. Of course the one hybrid they got and showed on the website already sold. And no real answer on when they were getting more. Quite annoying.


    Did sit in a passport. Still felt big, but not terribly long.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,748
    this has to be a mistake.


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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,440
    Hit buy and see what happens. Other than your wife chasing you around the dining room table. And you only have 1 good leg.

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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,316
    "Get me out of my existing lease" :p
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 20,766
    The DTE in my vehicles comes on when 50 miles left. When it hits zero, there is about a 50 mile reserve, so 2-1/2 to 3 gallons in the truck and 2 gallons in the car.
    2024 Ford F-150 STX, 2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,018
    edited March 2020
    That can't be accurate for the Silverado.

    I would think most people who need a 3500 don't lease and buy since it's going to be used as a true "truck"

    2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic

  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,018
    I have taken any car I've owned to "0" DTE and didn't run out of gas.

    All gas gauges lie. If they didn't more people would be running out of gas.

    2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic

  • ronsteveronsteve Member Posts: 1,234

    The DTE in my vehicles comes on when 50 miles left. When it hits zero, there is about a 50 mile reserve, so 2-1/2 to 3 gallons in the truck and 2 gallons in the car.

    My "low fuel" alert in the RDX comes on while showing a DTE that's usually around 40 miles, which would imply between 1.5 and 2 gallons remaining. Reality at the pump is it takes about 13.5 to fill my 16 gal tank.

    In the Jetta, when the light comes on the indicated DTE is 30 miles. Usually takes close to 14 of the published 14.5 capacity. We have seriously run it down before, not by my choice, so I guess I should be thanking the Fuel Pump Gods.
    2015 Acura RDX AWD / 2021 VW TIguan SE 4Motion
  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,355
    benjaminh said:

    Review of 2020 Civic Si with adaptive dampers and limited slip differential.....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK5ARLo1ho4

    If I wanted another FWD hot hatch(I doubt that I ever will) it would almost certainly be a Veloster N.

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,355
    The BMWs gives you a 60 mile DTE and then reminds you again at 30 miles.

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  • ronsteveronsteve Member Posts: 1,234
    tjc78 said:

    I have taken any car I've owned to "0" DTE and didn't run out of gas.

    All gas gauges lie. If they didn't more people would be running out of gas.

    And then there was the time the gas gage on my V70 stopped working, but I was still determined to stretch a tank to get into VA. Might have been a little OCD with my MPG readout (DTE stopped working when it didn't know the level) but got 450 miles out of it, and still had 2 gal to spare.
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  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 17,018
    We had a second generation Altima at the office years ago. I took it on a long road trip and squeezed over 500 miles out of the tank. I remember putting a full 18 gallons in it.

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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,316
    I owned both a 3rd gen and 4th gen Altima. They had 20 gallon tanks, which is huge for a midsize sedan. I think the low fuel warning comes on on Nissans with about four gallons left, but the DTE is relatively accurate up until the last gallon or two.
  • xwesxxwesx Member Posts: 17,697

    The DTE in my vehicles comes on when 50 miles left. When it hits zero, there is about a 50 mile reserve, so 2-1/2 to 3 gallons in the truck and 2 gallons in the car.

    Yes, the one in the Q7 is distance-based as well. It will come on at 60 miles estimated, IIRC, regardless of the amount left in the tank. In the winter, if I fill up immediately after the warning strikes, I tend to fill just under 22 gallons. During the summer months, the same timing allows a fill of 23+.
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