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28firefighter

Hoovie’s video today of the road trip to break in the Lambo gives a view into the YouTube high life.

oldfarmer50

28firefighter said:

Hoovie’s video today of the road trip to break in the Lambo gives a view into the YouTube high life.

Yeah, Wizard and Car Ninja must be making a fortune off of Hoovie but he’s pretty flush himself selling burgers and frozen custard. Where is there a lake like that in Kansas?

oldfarmer50

This is one that has skyrocketed since Fast & Furious. Before that they were mildly innovative kid’s cheap tuners. Not any more. I’m guessing it goes for $15k.

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/3oVLk0g9/1999-mitsubishi-eclipse-gsx

graphicguy

stickguy said:

Car wizard is great. Funny and you learn stuff. JR and Hoovie are much different in what they too.

interested to see that Car Wizard actually has a lot more subscribers now than JR.

I'm still trying to figure out how Witchita became ground zero for car videos.

Funny...I was wondering the same thing about Wichita. What makes that a YouTube Mecca for car repairs/flips/dealing?

stickguy

Hoovie just happened to live there is my guess. The rest kind of spawned off him.

stickguy

oldfarmer50 said:

28firefighter said:

Hoovie’s video today of the road trip to break in the Lambo gives a view into the YouTube high life.

Yeah, Wizard and Car Ninja must be making a fortune off of Hoovie but he’s pretty flush himself selling burgers and frozen custard. Where is there a lake like that in Kansas?

I’m sure they do get lots of customers, but likely were doing fine anyway.

I was wondering how much of that video was a gag though. Wizard and ninja having that kind of money, and buying a house together? Seems odd. But those 2 being “freinemies” was a running joke. Plus wizard would have to be loaded to also be buying that boat.

Or maybe I have way too much time on my hands.

stickguy

28firefighter said:

Hoovie’s video today of the road trip to break in the Lambo gives a view into the YouTube high life.

Start doing the math on his car collection. His intro with the 2 lamb is and the rapide, he gave $, and just those 3 was about $250k. Plus everything else lurking in the garage and the shop!

explorerx4

I think Hoovie and the Car Wizard together hlped make Hoovie's channel the success it is.
Always enjoy seeing what Car Wizard has up on his screen when he and Hoovie are going over the bill.
If it's a lot, he has something expensive up. One time, the bill wasn't going to be much and he said he was looking for coupons at the Dollar store.

stickguy

Wizards popular. More subscribers than JR now (310k to 245k or so). Hoovie is right at a million.

But guess who has 3.5million? Everyone’s favorite, Scotty K.!

benjaminh

The Wizard really likes GM's 3800 engine. I liked it too in my 1988 Olds 98.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rK9Y-a1-6JU&t=509s

benjaminh

The 272 hp in the regular 2021 TLX is more than I need, but here are the figures for the Type S. I saw a test on youtube that seemed to show that Honda and Acura are understating their figures by a bit.

"The 2021 Acura TLX Type S's 3.0-liter V-6 will make 355 horsepower and 354 lb-ft of torque. That horsepower figure edges the Audi S4's 349, but falls shy of the BMW M340i's 382 horsepower."

https://www.motortrend.com/news/2021-acura-tlx-type-s-horsepower-torque-figures-revealed/

explorerx4

Ford/Lincoln 3.0 V=6 has been rated @400 hp since 2017.

qbrozen

explorerx4 said:

Ford/Lincoln 3.0 V=6 has been rated @400 hp since 2017.

And Cadillac since 2016.

stickguy

And the Acura still has plenty more than it needs.

andres3

Some companies use more anemic horses than others. The truth is in the 0-60 or 0-80 or 0-100 or 5-75 or whatever you prefer times.

that golf R on carsandbids is fantastic, but the most boring color.
Quoting from the source though: "With the "DSG" gearbox, like this Golf R has, Volkswagen rates the R from 0-to-60 mph in 4.5 seconds."

@stickguy That transmission wouldn't be your biggest peeve though, the Golf R's choose weight savings and handling over a hole in the roof.

pensfan83

I was expecting closer to 400HP for the Type S but that's still a nice bump.

andres3

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/3pe7RO1e/1990-audi-v8-quattro?c=all

Last chance.... it's over $4K now. If it was local; I might bite, but getting a little steep. Seller says the 4-speed slush-box is made by ZF.

Wait a minute.... it is local.... 2 hours or so.

andres3

pensfan83 said:

I was expecting closer to 400HP for the Type S but that's still a nice bump.

A lot depends on the 10-speed auto. I'd of liked to have seen them make a robust dual clutch for it, which would have guaranteed more efficient use of those limited horses. At least they didn't dive into the CVT parts bin.

benjaminh

My oem tires on my TLX are Good Year Eagles 225/55/17.



A comfortable tire with ok grip. They still have a lot of tread left, and so if I keep the car it'll probably be a couple of years before I replace them. But assuming I keep it I'm considering the Michelin Pilot Sport tires, which seem like they are a good deal at Costco. Of course for the same price I could get Michelin tires that last twice as long, but I'm sure they don't provide handling that's as good. Costco doesn't stock the GY Eagles, but other places do, and they are certainly a good enough tire with a good price.

stickguy

There are well rated cheaper options too, like general Altimax.

I like the nice plump sidewall too!

stickguy

pensfan83 said:

I was expecting closer to 400HP for the Type S but that's still a nice bump.

The current V6/AWD is pretty quick already isn’t it? 6ish or high 5s? So bumping HP and torque 75 or do each (30%+?) seems like it should make it plenty quick. With IMO more important gobs of mid range pull. Drag racing starts are irrelevant to me, but pulling out at low to medium speeds and flooring it and taking off is useful!

benjaminh

stickguy said:

There are well rated cheaper options too, like general Altimax.

I like the nice plump sidewall too!

If I skip getting a new car I figure I can splurge a little on tires lol!

And yes, I do like the comfort of my tires. I've never had low profile tires, but from some reviews I'm not sure I would. For instance, I recently watched part of a detailed video review of an Accord Touring with the low profile tires, and the owner said the ride was a bit harsh at times on bumpy roads, even with the adaptive dampers on the normal/comfort mode.

As you mentioned earlier, it might be that the 2.0T Accord would work nicely with the EXL trim, which has comfort tires as are on my TLX. But as you said, it's possible the power of the 2.0T is a bit much for a front drive car. Once in a while I squeal my tires a little by accident when accelerating even with my naturally-aspirated engine.

It sounds like you've kind of sworn off of low profile tires after your experience. No doubt those tires have great grip, but I guess they sacrifice some comfort.

pensfan83

It's quick enough for me and I've never felt wanting for power at any speed. The only thing I'll ding it for is that on the highway if you mash the throttle in trying to pass someone for example there's usually a slight delay while the transmission figures out whether to drop from 9th gear to 5 or 4. Otherwise it's quick, fairly fuel efficient, and smooth.

I'm sure I would be more than satisfied with the HP and torque it will offer. The price? Probably not so much.

benjaminh

stickguy said:

pensfan83 said:

I was expecting closer to 400HP for the Type S but that's still a nice bump.

The current V6/AWD is pretty quick already isn’t it? 6ish or high 5s? So bumping HP and torque 75 or do each (30%+?) seems like it should make it plenty quick. With IMO more important gobs of mid range pull. Drag racing starts are irrelevant to me, but pulling out at low to medium speeds and flooring it and taking off is useful!

We all know how 0-60 times are a kind of fiction (although good for comparison), but the current TLX gets 5.7 0-60 according to Car and Driver.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a15091267/2018-acura-tlx-v-6-sh-awd-a-spec-test-review/

The Accord 2.0T was measured at 5.5 with FWD, but who knows what they had to do to it to get that.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a15079405/2018-honda-accord-20t-automatic-test-review/

So with SH-AWD the 2021 TLX 2.0T should maybe at least equal the Accord? Although it'll be bigger and a little heavier, and so maybe not?

The 2021 TLX Type S would then perhaps be a bit under 5 seconds?

kyfdx

benjaminh said:

stickguy said:

pensfan83 said:

I was expecting closer to 400HP for the Type S but that's still a nice bump.

The current V6/AWD is pretty quick already isn’t it? 6ish or high 5s? So bumping HP and torque 75 or do each (30%+?) seems like it should make it plenty quick. With IMO more important gobs of mid range pull. Drag racing starts are irrelevant to me, but pulling out at low to medium speeds and flooring it and taking off is useful!

We all know how 0-60 times are a kind of fiction (although good for comparison), but the current TLX gets 5.7 0-60 according to Car and Driver.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a15091267/2018-acura-tlx-v-6-sh-awd-a-spec-test-review/

The Accord 2.0T was measured at 5.5 with FWD, but who knows what they had to do to it to get that.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a15079405/2018-honda-accord-20t-automatic-test-review/

So with SH-AWD the 2021 TLX 2.0T should maybe at least equal the Accord? Although it'll be bigger and a little heavier, and so maybe not?

The 2021 TLX Type S would then perhaps be a bit under 5 seconds?

Dropping 0-60 times gets exponentially harder, as you get faster. Under 5.0? Seems doubtful

andres3

kyfdx said:

benjaminh said:

stickguy said:

pensfan83 said:

I was expecting closer to 400HP for the Type S but that's still a nice bump.

The current V6/AWD is pretty quick already isn’t it? 6ish or high 5s? So bumping HP and torque 75 or do each (30%+?) seems like it should make it plenty quick. With IMO more important gobs of mid range pull. Drag racing starts are irrelevant to me, but pulling out at low to medium speeds and flooring it and taking off is useful!

We all know how 0-60 times are a kind of fiction (although good for comparison), but the current TLX gets 5.7 0-60 according to Car and Driver.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a15091267/2018-acura-tlx-v-6-sh-awd-a-spec-test-review/

The Accord 2.0T was measured at 5.5 with FWD, but who knows what they had to do to it to get that.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a15079405/2018-honda-accord-20t-automatic-test-review/

So with SH-AWD the 2021 TLX 2.0T should maybe at least equal the Accord? Although it'll be bigger and a little heavier, and so maybe not?

The 2021 TLX Type S would then perhaps be a bit under 5 seconds?

Dropping 0-60 times gets exponentially harder, as you get faster. Under 5.0? Seems doubtful

The B8/8.5 S4 from 2010-2016 production run managed a 4.9 with a paltry and measly 333 HP (as rated). Should be doable with 350+ horses.

stickguy

Car mags abuse them any way possible to get lower times. Which is why rolling start (like 5-60) results are more useful for normal drivers.

I think the AWD 2.0 should easily match the accord, thanks to better traction. And the V6 should be around that 5 range. Both though, well into the “faster than you likely will ever use” territory.

Ben, I keep swearing off skinny little tires. Then somehow end up buying them again. But this time, I really mean it! My bare minimum now is 4”. My 245/40 size (basically same as 225/50) is right about at that.

qbrozen

It was hard to hold myself back from bidding on this. Went above my limit, though, of course, so no harm no foul. My dad had an '87 2-tone K5 Blazer that we all loved. This brought back memories. I would have been a buyer at $6500, and $7500 still would have had me itching. https://carsandbids.com/auctions/rxONYQa0/1990-gmc-jimmy

andres3

stickguy said:

Car mags abuse them any way possible to get lower times. Which is why rolling start (like 5-60) results are more useful for normal drivers.

I think the AWD 2.0 should easily match the accord, thanks to better traction. And the V6 should be around that 5 range. Both though, well into the “faster than you likely will ever use” territory.

Ben, I keep swearing off skinny little tires. Then somehow end up buying them again. But this time, I really mean it! My bare minimum now is 4”. My 245/40 size (basically same as 225/50) is right about at that.

The 0-60 figures I usually remember are Manufacturer "claimed." I haven't tracked super closely except with Audi's, and I'd say by and large car magazines prove the manufacture figure very conservative.

qbrozen

I've just now made the decision that the F250 qualifies as having been part of my personal history since it has now passed 6 mos in my possession and on my insurance. 52-car history and counting. LOL.

benjaminh

pensfan83 said:

It's quick enough for me and I've never felt wanting for power at any speed. The only thing I'll ding it for is that on the highway if you mash the throttle in trying to pass someone for example there's usually a slight delay while the transmission figures out whether to drop from 9th gear to 5 or 4. Otherwise it's quick, fairly fuel efficient, and smooth.

I'm sure I would be more than satisfied with the HP and torque it will offer. The price? Probably not so much.

My guess is that the msrp of the new Type S will be somewhere around 48k.

stickguy

Pretty cool. Must be a pig to drive on road with that setup though.

qbrozen

stickguy said:

Pretty cool. Must be a pig to drive on road with that setup though.

which pig is that?

benjaminh

kyfdx said:

Dropping 0-60 times gets exponentially harder, as you get faster. Under 5.0? Seems doubtful

Maybe I'll end up eating my hat, but it seems likely to me for that the Type S will be below 5, if only by a little bit. But we'll see in about six months or so, I hope.

stickguy

This looks cool. Even though I’d probably scare myself driving it.

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/rkq8mGPl/2008-ford-mustang-shelby-gt500-super-snake-convertible

stickguy

qbrozen said:

stickguy said:

Pretty cool. Must be a pig to drive on road with that setup though.

which pig is that?

The blazer. But probably not much different than the F250.

roadburner

benjaminh said:

My oem tires on my TLX are Good Year Eagles 225/55/17.



A comfortable tire with ok grip. They still have a lot of tread left, and so if I keep the car it'll probably be a couple of years before I replace them. But assuming I keep it I'm considering the Michelin Pilot Sport tires, which seem like they are a good deal at Costco. Of course for the same price I could get Michelin tires that last twice as long, but I'm sure they don't provide handling that's as good. Costco doesn't stock the GY Eagles, but other places do, and they are certainly a good enough tire with a good price.

I installed Pilot Sport A/S 3+ tires on the Club Sport and the 2 Series so that I can drive them in the winter without worrying about ambient temperatures. If I get the 330i I guess I’ll pick up a dedicated set of winter wheels/tires. Tire Rack has a few sets under $2k including TPMS, so I’ll likely go that route.

oldfarmer50

explorerx4 said:

Ford/Lincoln 3.0 V=6 has been rated @400 hp since 2017.

That’s news to me. Is that a turbo version? My son’s NA 3.0L only puts out 240hp. Granted that’s a 10 year old version.

oldfarmer50

benjaminh said:

My oem tires on my TLX are Good Year Eagles 225/55/17.



A comfortable tire with ok grip. They still have a lot of tread left, and so if I keep the car it'll probably be a couple of years before I replace them. But assuming I keep it I'm considering the Michelin Pilot Sport tires, which seem like they are a good deal at Costco. Of course for the same price I could get Michelin tires that last twice as long, but I'm sure they don't provide handling that's as good. Costco doesn't stock the GY Eagles, but other places do, and they are certainly a good enough tire with a good price.

I had GY Eagles on my Eclipse and while they lasted 40k+ miles the handling was so-so.

explorerx4

@oldfarmer50,
Yes twin turbo, but also totally different engine design. GM version was rated @420 HP.

oldfarmer50

qbrozen said:

It was hard to hold myself back from bidding on this. Went above my limit, though, of course, so no harm no foul. My dad had an '87 2-tone K5 Blazer that we all loved. This brought back memories. I would have been a buyer at $6500, and $7500 still would have had me itching. https://carsandbids.com/auctions/rxONYQa0/1990-gmc-jimmy

$8300 for 209k miles? What would you do sit in your driveway and go vroom vroom?

qbrozen

oldfarmer50 said:

qbrozen said:

It was hard to hold myself back from bidding on this. Went above my limit, though, of course, so no harm no foul. My dad had an '87 2-tone K5 Blazer that we all loved. This brought back memories. I would have been a buyer at $6500, and $7500 still would have had me itching. https://carsandbids.com/auctions/rxONYQa0/1990-gmc-jimmy

$8300 for 209k miles? What would you do sit in your driveway and go vroom vroom?

I don't think it had anything original left on it.

oldfarmer50

explorerx4 said:

@oldfarmer50,
Yes twin turbo, but also totally different engine design. GM version was rated @420 HP.

That’s interesting. I knew about the 2.7 and 3.5 ecoboosts but didn’t know they turboed a 3.0. Also interesting is that the 3.5 was only rated at 365hp but the 3.0 has 400. I hope they didn’t use that internal water pump that caused so many problems.

explorerx4

3.5 is mostly about torque. It has 470 and 510 ft/lbs versions. Horsepower is 375, 400 or 450.
Pretty sure the 3.0 is an evolution of the 2.7.

corvette

qbrozen said:

oldfarmer50 said:

qbrozen said:

It was hard to hold myself back from bidding on this. Went above my limit, though, of course, so no harm no foul. My dad had an '87 2-tone K5 Blazer that we all loved. This brought back memories. I would have been a buyer at $6500, and $7500 still would have had me itching. https://carsandbids.com/auctions/rxONYQa0/1990-gmc-jimmy

$8300 for 209k miles? What would you do sit in your driveway and go vroom vroom?

I don't think it had anything original left on it.

“Yup, that’s my great great grandpa’s old axe. We’ve replaced the blade three times and the handle twice.”

Sandman6472

Have Goodyear Eagles on my Golf right now. I like 'em, a lot!

Sandman6472

Tropical storm warning now in South Florida. Hoping this storms tracks more to the east. We'll probably get lots of rain and some wind, just like in last years storm. Not pleased at all as this thing came up so quickly. Working tomorrow and then we'll honker down for the weekend and see how we make out. Hopefully G-d will keep us out of harms way!!

qbrozen

Daaaayummmm... https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1999-lexus-ls400/

wonder what that will bring.

benjaminh

Leno drives the Tesla Cybertruck with Elon in this 6-minute video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25ZuKkbHdqM

qbrozen

I'll take one of each, please.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1953-oldsmobile-88/
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1949-chevrolet-pickup-19/