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  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    That sounds like a lot of car for the money.

    I have to assume he's done the timing belt/wate rpump job?

    Really an oddball combination with that stick AND Navigation. Not an easy car to sell unless you find the right person....like yourself!

    A nicer body style than the newer ones in my opinion and it should go another 135,000 miles or more!

    I think you did quite well!
  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    Funny...the father is "down on his luck" but his kid can still race around on a snowmobile?

    1475.00 at todays prices is NOTHING. There can't be that much damage.

    Why not let your Ins. Co. total the car? They will offer it back to you for salvage value. I'm guessing 300.00. The difference is yours!

    Some people would be just tickled if this happened to their older car.

    Maybe you can have someone do a so-so job on the body and just drive it with a wad of cash in your pocket!
  • lemmerlemmer Member Posts: 2,689
    Well thank you. And yes, the timing belt and water pump are done.

    When you try to sell a car like this, you realize that your buying pool is reduced by 95% because nobody wants a manual tranny.
    But when you shop for a car like this, everybody thinks it is worth a ton extra because it has a manual. It is some kind of paradox. And it requires a ton of patience, both when you buy and sell.

    Anybody need a Lexus GS400 with 228K miles on it?
  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    What you said is true.

    When we would take in an oddball car, when we got a hit on it, we knew we probably had a sale. The shopper wold sometimes act like they really didn't care if it had NAVI or not but we could always tell they knew there weren't any others anywhere.

    Finding that customer could be a challenge but when we did, there was usually a lot of money to be made.

    Unless, at the last minute they sprung a trade on us like the one you have!
    :)

    Oh, I know....those are ALL freeway miles and you've changed the oil every 3000.00 miles! ;)
  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,338
    edited March 2012
    I'm glad your kids are unhurt. Too bad the law of natural selection didn't prune the snowmobile driver's branch of the genetic pool. If an uninsured moron like that hit one of my cars I'd make sure that he(and his parents if under 18) lived in Litigation Hell for 2-3 years at the very least...

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    Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,922
    That sounds like a good price on that 328xi - when you first posted, I didn't realize it was a brand new one.

    Just playing a little devil's advocate - have you considered waiting for the new 3's to be released with AWD (this fall, I hear)? I just know that with our recent purchase of the X3, I can't help but have a little remorse over not waiting for the new 4 cyl turbo engine. From the reviews, it sounds like it's a bit quicker and more fuel efficient.

    Having said that, the in-line 6 is hard to argue against.

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  • rayainswrayainsw Member Posts: 3,192
    From the lease board, but may help you...

    http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.ef9d9c7/4452#MSG4452

    'BMW is currently providing $2,500 dealer cash on the 2011 328xi Sedan. As a result, if I was in the market for one right now, I personally would shoot for a selling price of around $2,000 under invoice. '
    2022 X3 M40i
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,504
    Breld - they've got crazy incentives on the '11 E90 328xi sedans. 0.9% financing + $2500 rebate + 1st 2 payments (up to $500 each) made by BMW. Not to mention that a similarly equipped F30 328xi is going to be over the $50,000 mark, they'll be selling close to MSRP when they first come out, & there won't be ANY cash, financing, or payment incentives. Now there are all 3 (pun unintended)

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,504
    I really do appreciate everyone's help & input! It means a lot.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,504
    Funny, that was a reply to one of my posts. I've realized that leading isn't for me.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD

  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386
    Indeed. Litigation hell for you, snowmobile guy!

    I would do that bit of collecting for the totaled car and paying the salvage cost. I would want to know that the car is considered safe post-accident, though.

    An old uninsured motorist story. This woman I used to work with was married to a guy who was a draw bridge operator. There was space for maybe three cars cut out near the booth for guys working to park. One day after his shift his car won't start. His wife picks him up and he says he'll get it looked at. The next day he takes the wife's to work and parks it behind the other car.

    A drunk 19 year old driver plows into both cars, totaling them both. The kid was killed in the accident and had no insurance. These people had "saved" money by not having uninsured motorist insurance.....
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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 18,338
    edited March 2012
    When the imbecile -he was looking for a dropped cigarette butt- rear-ended my wife's 5 Series the damage was over $9000 and the slimeball was judgment proof. I still filed a criminal complaint against him for not having insurance- which made him cough up my $500 deductible in exchange for not going to the pokey.
    In the case of snowmobile moron, his parents could afford at least one snowmobile, so I'm guessing they would want to come up with $1500 to avoid any further trouble- and believe me, I would give them misery on top of trouble.

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    Son's: 2018 330i xDrive

  • fintailfintail Member Posts: 58,429
    Over the weekend I noticed what seemed like a couple dozen 2011 3ers of various types at the local dealer. They must have had a ton of excess parts to use up at the end, or people held off waiting for the F30. I bet you could bargain very hard.
  • rayainswrayainsw Member Posts: 3,192
    Oops. Just thought the transaction price
    [ and how he arrived at it ]
    might be of interest.
    Sorry....
    - Ray
    Leasing, this time around....
    2022 X3 M40i
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,504
    Ray

    All help is appreciated. No need to apologize at all.

    Bradd
    Driving a TSX...for now;)

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,740
    Anybody need a Lexus GS400 with 228K miles on it?

    "need" is a strong word, ain't it?

    I've never had a car with over 200k miles, but have to admit that a RWD v8 lexus has always been tempting. But I think I'd have to stick with my 150k-mile 540 manual.

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  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,296
    edited March 2012
    "The father of the kid who hit our son is down on his luck and has no money..."

    Then how can he afford to buy and put gas in a snowmobile? The mind boggles.

    Edit: isell beat me to it.
  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,296
    Yeah, my experience is that the difference in our state is that the uninsured morons usually have four wheelers instead of snowmobiles.
  • fezofezo Member Posts: 10,386
    My daughter had a friend who drove ATVs. Just into his freshman year he was driving a new one his folks got him and the throttle jammed right as the dirt road he was on deadended at the Garden State Parkway. That was the end of him. Had barely made it to 14.
    2015 Mazda 6 Grand Touring, 2014 Mazda 3 Sport Hatchback, 1999 Mazda Miata 2004 Toyota Camry LE, 1999.
  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,922
    Yup, like I said, just playing a little devil's advocate. Certainly don't blame you at all for jumping on these great deals on the 328s. Those are some great incentives! While I'm sure the F30's will grow on me, I personally prefer the interior from the E90s.

    Look forward to hearing about your purchase!

    2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2025 BRZ - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman

  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,922
    So my mother-in-law wants to trade in her Mitsubushi Endeavor (I did not condone this purchase at the time) and lease a smaller SUV.

    She's open to most any brand, but she would like to have a nicer model (i.e., leather, sunroof, etc.). Ideally, a monthly payment in the $300's. Anyone have suggestions for such a vehicle that may have great lease deals at this time? I was thinking something along the lines of a CX-7, Santa Fe or maybe a CR-V. Maybe an RDX - I think there are good deals on the outgoing model.

    I'm comfortable negotiating on a purchase - what's different on a lease (never have had one)? Still the same as a purchase, as far as focusing on the price of the car? I assume residuals are set? How about money factors?

    Thanks!

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  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    For strong residual values ... Forester or Rogue look good:

    https://www.alg.com/deprratings.aspx

    Of course incentives play a big role, too, so you might find better deals on discontinued older models with deep discounts. Here's the Edmunds incentives page:

    http://www.edmunds.com/suv/car-incentives.html
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,504
    I emailed the salesman @ Pace BMW (Mamaroneck, NY) and asked if his boss may have mistaken my TSX w/ Tech for a base TSX. He said his manager included the mark for the Navigation on GALVES.

    "No Soup For You! NEXT!"

    I called the dealer we just bought my Dad's Tahoe from last week & asked him if I could get $20K on a trade in (theoretically, since I'm not buying a Chevy). His reply to me was:

    If you are trading it in for one of our cars/trucks $20,000 sounds about
    right as long as the condition is good.  You should be able to get $20,000
    for a trade in anywhere.


    The hunt continues...

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  • au1994au1994 Member Posts: 3,707
    edited March 2012
    Somebody will give it to ya! I traded my non Tech TSX last summer for my 328 coupe and came out well, ~25k in trade value.

    As mentioned earlier give 'em your numbers and let them decide if they want to put it in the trade or take it out of the car.

    I once told a salesman I didn't care if he charged me 20k for floor mats and 10k for the car, I'm paying 30k.

    I think his response was something to the effect of "we don't have a form for that" Or maybe he couldn't figure out how to put it on the 4 square.

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 17,504
    So let's give this a whirl:

    Selling Price of the BMW: $38,050.00
    Trade in value of my Acura: $20,000.00
    Sales Tax (6.35%) on diff between Trade & Sale: $1,146.18
    BMW Sale price + Tax: $39,231.18
    Down Payment (TSX Equity): $5243.75
    Total amount financed: $33,987.43

    Does this seem right?

    I'm going to try and buy the car in NY ($75 doc fee cap) & I think maybe $200 to transfer my plates in CT from Acura to the BMW. Plus I think all dealers charge a $12.50 tire & recycling fee.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD

  • michaellnomichaellno Member Posts: 4,120
    I met with the Geico adjuster today. Earlier this week, I had gotten an estimate from my local body shop for $1100 to repair the door on the ION. The driver of the vehicle who hit me thought that the damage was, at most, $400 or so.

    Geico came back with an estimate of $960. The adjuster has worked with my body shop before so didn't really question much of the details of the estimate they wrote up; the big difference was that the cost of replacing the pinstripes (painted, two color).

    Geico will also cover the cost of the rental car, as it will take 4-5 days to do the repairs. I'll take my car in on Monday.

    The only aggravation is that I had to drive up to the shop where the adjuster was based, rather than having him come to me. Guess Geico doesn't work that way. :cry:
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,740
    Personally, I hate working OTD. It just gets too complicated because I always wind up having to explain how I arrived at my number, which of course includes the price of the car. Then we just talk price of the car from then on. So its like an extra unnecessary step.

    At best, I would work with "the difference."
    "I'll give you my car plus $18k."

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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,922
    Yeah, when trading in a car, I like to simply talk in terms of the difference, or specifically, I'll make an offer of a difference number and specify "plus tax," meaning my offer takes into account any "dealer handling" or other such fees.

    Almost every time, when I get the paperwork, the dealer has adjusted the numbers to show an inflated selling price (and accordingly an inflated trade allowance), but of course, none of it matters as long as the difference stays the same.

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  • akanglakangl Member Posts: 3,282
    In the case of snowmobile moron, his parents could afford at least one snowmobile, so I'm guessing they would want to come up with $1500 to avoid any further trouble- and believe me, I would give them misery on top of trouble.

    Well since he refuses to answer or return my calls I'll let my insurance company deal with it. They are snooping around for homeowner's insurance with some liability insurance, but if not then at least we have uninsured motorist on our policy and they will take care of it, then send snowmobile moron into litigation hell I hope.

    At first I felt bad and figured well he's down on his luck, a lot of people are, but now that I've had a couple days to think about it. He was chain smoking like a chimney.......at $10/pack, his 2 boys were there.......both with snowmobiles.....yeah, really down on his luck. Sorry, sympathy just flew out the window buddy.

    The Escort is back on the road and good to go. Bought a new tire, the alloy wheel is a little scuffed up but holds a bead ok according to the tire shop. I did some bending on the fender so the door will open without too much protest. It probably needs an alignment too. It drives fine and seems to be ok other than cosmetics now. Our insurance company is sending out an appraiser next week to appraise the car and decide on a value. I'm gathering receipts for all mechanical work done to the car recently, the new tire, and I'm going to have my mechanic write me a report on the mechanical soundness of the car. Anything I can think of to help the value. After that they will cut us a check for the value of the car minus our deductable and the salvage value, of course we are keeping the car.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,381
    Who wouldn't get all excited to stumble upon a stick shift station wagon?

    Would prefer a 4 cyl (though IIRC you weren't getting that most years in a wagon version). And the miles are a bit steep. But, asking price is not too high,so quite possible could work out a fair purchase price.

    Should be a fun ride too!

    http://southjersey.craigslist.org/cto/2891625272.html

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,740
    auction value is between $3k-$3500. So $5k is fair if clean and well maintained.

    Yeah, 6-cyl only in those.

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  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,381
    my guess is I keep finding intersting options like this now, but late in the year when it is time to buy all the good stuff will go into hiding!

    Not that I saw this one or called about it, but at least form the ad it did not look too scary.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,381
    Big shock there, right?

    Just out of curiosity priced out a Mazda CX-5. Touring model (mid level level, so no leather) with FWD (AWD adds another $1,200), just added the roof and tunes package. Sticker was 26.4K, so add in the AWD and you are looking at 28 large for a compact SUV with just "normal" equipment.

    the Santa Fe limited (V6, AWD) that my wife really liked was right about 32K.

    should be interesting to see what she wants to do when the time comes, since I highly doubt she will be willing to look used (maybe a recent year CPO at most, but those often aren't much cheaper).

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,934
    edited March 2012
    These people had "saved" money by not having uninsured motorist insurance.....

    Hhahaha! Uninsured insurance is all you really need! If I could be uninsured, and still carry uninsured motorists insurance to save money, I probably would.

    If only to spite insurance companies and CA's gov't.

    I suppose I could post a 50K bond...... but then what if someone steals it? Okay, I want comprehensive and uninsured... nothing else.
    '18 Porsche Macan Turbo, '16 Audi TTS, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,934
    Failure to yield is illegal, and it seems the snowmobiler failed to yield to me.

    Also, reckless, and negligent snowmobile driving is probably illegal, and he certainly seem guilty of that.

    I'm sure the father and son have some money, they just don't have any money when they owe someone else for damages they have caused. A lot of people are that way when they owe someone money. They suddenly have none. Yet, if they were driving, they had gas in the tank! If they are alive, they are obviously feeding themselves....

    I've heard of food stamps, but not $4.50/gallon gas stamps.

    The problem is squeezing the money out of them. I got paid by an uninsured teenager once. His parents were probably the honorable ones and made him pay! When I originally called to demand money, the kid seemed to think it was a joke and was basically laughing at me. When I sent him a letter which proved I had his address from the Police Report (which I enclosed) and threatened legal action, I got a phone call asking where I could receive my money! :)
    '18 Porsche Macan Turbo, '16 Audi TTS, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 16,973
    I was looking at some similar choices for my Fiance and yes they get pricey. She really wants an Enclave, and I just don't see it. Its a great car, but gets into the 40's way too easy. I was checking out the Terrian and the new CRV. 30K gets you a pretty nice little SUV there. I like that you can get a V6 in the Terrian.

    There is a new Buick SUV coming out (Encore?) but instead of being an Equinox/Terrian clone its smaller and that isn't going to fly.

    If we trade the Elantra early next year for an SUV I'm selling the S10. At that point it won't be needed for light hauling the SUV can handle that.

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  • breldbreld Member Posts: 6,922
    Oh yeah - I like those wagons. Back in 2003, I was deciding between the then-new Mazda6 and the TSX. I ended up with the TSX, but really liked the Mazda.

    And yes, a manual wagon of any kind is a rare beast. What are you waiting for?

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  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,934
    I have no problem with uninsured morons if they are honest and pay their debts. Damages is a debt.

    When you get out of the car and the first thing you hear is "I don't have any insurance!" are they really saying "I'm not going to give you any money?"
    '18 Porsche Macan Turbo, '16 Audi TTS, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,381
    If that encore is about the size of a CR-V, I could live with that.

    Still tempting to get a sedan for normal use. That danged Camry was loaded to the gills, got excellent MPG (ratings), and was still right on 28K. I have no need for AWD, but do want to keep something in the fleet with carrying capacity 9for bulky items).

    So if we went that route, it either means the van stays (and we can argue about show gets stuck driving it, and since stuck is the past tense of stick, I know who it would be...), or the new car for me has to have utility value (wagon, or real small SUV type thingee).

    probably just easier to get a compact SUV for the wife and be done with it. Then I can go off the reservation.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,381
    November when I actually need another car. and might have the money to pay for it!

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  • michaellnomichaellno Member Posts: 4,120
    I think the Santa Fe is a half-size larger than the CX-5, IMO.

    And, if your wife is anything like mine, the V6 in the Santa Fe will convince her that the puny 155 HP engine in the Mazda just won't do.

    But, it won't hurt to test drive...

    I've been really, really tempted by that '09 white GTI. It's priced under Edmunds' TMV and is equipped the way I would want (stick, HIDs, roof). Miles aren't bad (24K) and I've used Edmunds to get a ballpark on my trade ($5K, give or take).

    So, a theoretical question .. if I get $5K in trade, I would save about $400 on sales tax, but Edmunds puts the private party sales price at around $6K, so I'd be up $600 if I didn't trade. Thoughts?

    Plus, I could take the $1K repair estimate as a check from Geico and stick it in the bank.

    Ack! If only I could get the spouse on board with this ......
  • andres3andres3 Member Posts: 13,934
    And they told me I had to pay sales tax in CA on the full ridiculous MSRP price of the phone, which was like 799.99.

    They said that a few years back CA made it so you pay full sales tax on big ticket items, like cars, and phone, regardless of what you pay?

    Is this true for anyone in CA here? I can't imagine every buying American as the sales tax would be HUGE on those overpriced overmarked MSRP's for piles of junk from the Big 3.

    I've never bought a car for MSRP.
    '18 Porsche Macan Turbo, '16 Audi TTS, Wife's '19 VW Tiguan SEL 4-Motion
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,740
    I was surprised you were going to get the Ion repaired in the first place, so ....

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  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Encore is much smaller than a CR-V. It's Korean designed and built, and closer in size to the Juke.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,381
    you sold me, FWIW.

    If you sucked it up this long driving an Ion (talk about taking one for the team!) then you certainly have earned the right to something nicer. Just make the financial case and you should be all set.

    I would try to retail the Ion yourself. Cheap cars sell. And with the damage, i doubt you even see the 5K.

    I just sold my Accord (to the first person that saw it) for 3K more than the trade offer (and I had a couple, right about the same #). Even discounting the tax savings, I cleared (pure profit) almost 2.5K for my trouble.

    I can't see you getting less than a 2K delta, and no way your tax savings offset that!

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  • michaellnomichaellno Member Posts: 4,120
    If you sucked it up this long driving an Ion (talk about taking one for the team!) then you certainly have earned the right to something nicer. Just make the financial case and you should be all set.

    Here's the argument I know I'd get from the spouse: "You only drive your car to deliver pizza. Why should we go $13-14K in debt for that?".

    And ... she's right. This is a total 'want' purchase, not a need. The ION clicked over 65K yesterday on the way back from the adjuster. Yeah, it's got some cosmetic issues (door, front bumper), but it runs real well.

    I would try to retail the Ion yourself. Cheap cars sell. And with the damage, i doubt you even see the 5K.

    Probably true .. I got an estimate of $5800 from the Mazda dealer a month or two back (they were offering 120% of KBB, so the true value was probably $4800-5000. Now, with the door damage, I may be lucky to see $4K.

    In all honesty, I'd like to keep the ION as the pizza-mobile (surprisingly, I'm averaging about $400-500 in tips and a couple hundred in wages each month), and figure out a way to get a 3rd car for the stable that would be a fun weekend toy.
  • mark156mark156 Member Posts: 1,915
    I live in California and, no, you pay tax on the actual sales price, not MSRP. :sick:

    Mark156 :D
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  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    figure out a way to get a 3rd car for the stable that would be a fun weekend toy.

    When I felt that way I bought my first Miata, a used 1993 model. At $7800 it was a bargain. Sold it 7 years later for $5550, too.

    Cost me next to nothing to own. $27 a month depreciation, less than I spent on gas. LOL

    You may want to look in to one of those.
  • tjc78tjc78 Member Posts: 16,973
    Encore is much smaller than a CR-V. It's Korean designed and built, and closer in size to the Juke

    Yes, I really don't get it. It reminds me of the size of a GEO Tracker or something along those lines. I was really hoping to sell her on the idea of a smaller Enclave..... not a mini-Enclave :cry:

    image

    Stick,
    I agree with having one car with some cargo carrying capability. I'm a weekend warrior and love having the truck to put mulch, lumber, whatever in. I know only an SUV will do for her, so at least that narrows down the playing field a bit and would get a car (that is barely driven) off the insurance.

    2025 Ram 1500 Laramie 4x4 / 2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,381
    saw a couple recently in my Craigs trolling. Pick a generation and miles. The 2000 is fairly cheap if you don't mind the repaint. the '06 seems like it could be a good deal.

    http://southjersey.craigslist.org/cto/2889969598.html

    http://southjersey.craigslist.org/cto/2892254141.html

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

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