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2006 Chevrolet Impala

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  • vanman1vanman1 Posts: 1,397
    With the extreme cold this week I have notice my neighbor has been starting his Malibu and hoping in his warm car 10 minutes later. What a great feature, well worth the gas!
  • worrworr Posts: 45
    I drove the SS again and noticed I was getting 20 MPG average on the highway doing 75MPH driving both with and into the wind. I reset each time using the computer.

    In town was 17 plus with little idling.

    These V8s idle on 8 right?
  • Yes they idle on 8 cylinders.

    Your 20 mpg is a bit low, my GXP will get 21.5mpg at 80mph on the interstate. This is over the course of a full fuel tank run. No stopping, no town traffic, strictly interstate travel at 80mph. I would think the SS would do the same.

    Mike :)
  • scauerscauer Posts: 13
    Is anyone else experiencing very rough idle down around 6000 rpms or so? It doesn't usually happen when the car is in park or neutral (rpms usually up around 7500 then), but when I'm stopped with the brake on, after a few seconds it starts to get really rough.
  • Enjoying the car for 3 weeks now. 1400 miles. Appears to get pretty close to the 21/31 MPG advertised. Only think I have noticed is during some (~15%) starts it take a little longer to crank before startings. May need stronger ignition/starter components as one review pointed out in the consumer reviews. Those are interesting to read. There are 29 of them. I ordered it and I took deliver exactly 6 weeks to the day. Would like Edmunds to have a TMV for extended warranties in the future. I haven't bought yet but may before the 3/36000 warranty expires. Car prices used to be secret before the internet but I still think extended warranty prices are kept secret. I probably will buy one that gets the warranty out to 6/72000 or 7/84000. There is no place that says what the invoice price for this is from GM.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America I70 & I75 Posts: 21,439
    >Car prices used to be secret before the internet but

    Actually they weren't "secret" before the "internet."

    I used to buy a book that came out quarterly at the full magazine stores. It gave the dealer cost and retail. One was published by a company called Edmunds. There were some others.

    2015 Cruze 2LT, 2014 Malibu 2LT, 2008 Cobalt 2LT

  • I've had my SS for about 3 weeks now, and I've mostly been driving it to work and around town (about 500 total miles). My salesperson told me the car runs on regular gas, but I read in the owners manual that Chevy recommends 91 or higher. It does say that it will run on 87 but you will lose some power. I can't wait to try 93, because this car is really fast with the 87 !!!

    However, the car is not getting the mileage I expected. I've been averaging about 14.2 around town and I averaged about 23.4 today on a 45 mile highway jaunt at about 68 mph. I also tend to drive quickly part of the time. I'm going to try 93 gas next tank, and see if the MPG improves at all.

    Otherwise, I absolutely LOVE the car. I haven't noticed much torque steer, and I certainly haven't been "scared" by the car. TO ME, the car is definitely fun to drive. I'm not taking it to the local cone lined parking lot and trying to out-run BMW's around the track, I'm just driving around town and on the highway. But the car just feels planted and it sticks to the road. When you try to take a sharp curve at high speed, you can feel the weight, but I think for what it is (large family sedan) it handles great.

    John
  • worrworr Posts: 45
    Others have said the manual says 89.

    Where I live 87 and 89 are the same price...but 89 has 10% ethanol added in.
  • My manual recommends 91 octane for the 5.3 liter. This I know for sure because I just read it last night, and I read it very carefully to make sure I was seeing it right. It does say that 87 will work fine with a reduction in power and a possible engine knock. I've been running 87 with no knock and what seems like PLENTY of power. I'm just disappointed in the mileage. I'm going to let this tank get real low, and then fill it up with 93 to see if it makes a difference.

    I'll post my results in a week or so when I've driven on the 93 for a while.

    John
  • worrworr Posts: 45
    Nothing like an owner to set the record straight!

    Thanks John, look forward to it!
  • hammen2hammen2 Posts: 1,313
    There are plenty of dealers who sell GM's Major Guard warranty over the Internet. The one I've seen quoted most often is a Pontiac-Cadillac dealer in Pennsyvania - http://www.gmoutlet.com - but Google around for others.

    (No I don't work for them, other than considering buying a warranty for my wife's '04 Envoy from them).

    --Robert
  • Here's a very good negotiating tactic re: GM's Major Guard:

    - Get the quote from your dealer (which usually will be too high -- hey, that's their markup money maker if you don't know their margins).

    - Call the folks at http://www.gmoutlet.com and ask for their lowest price (alternatively, you can give them your dealer quote and ask how much you were overbid). Keep those lower numbers handy.

    - Call your local dealership back and tell them that you called another dealership (true) and that they gave you a much lower quote (also true). Tell them to match it or you're going elsewhere (regardless of the price quoted for the car itself). You do NOT and should not disclose the name of the other dealer. If they press too hard, tell them that's your business, not theirs, and walk out, intimating that you're heading over to a competing dealer.

    Now watch the fun -- they know that you can buy a GM extended warranty from any GM dealer in the country within the original warranty period. They'd much rather make only a little money off you at the lower warranty price than see you walk altogether. And the key is NEVER be afraid to walk away or to tell them you'd walk as there's plenty of other dealerships drooling for your business.

    I've seen dealerships "begrudgingly" agree to increase your trade-in value by a little, only to jack up the extended warranty price more than enough to cover the difference and add even more margin for them. So you lose, even with a higher trade-in.

    Take away their power by negotiating hard for the lowest new car price first. Don't tell them about your trade-in yet, or they'll work it in against you. After that, then nail down the trade-in value next (print out the Kelley Blue Book value at kbb.com and bring it in to support your position).

    Finally, when the trade-in price is locked in, hit them up with the lower warranty quote from above. They'll have all this time and work already invested in the deal, and won't want to jeopardize the sale by then for the difference.

    By this point, they don't have much else to jack up in price on you because you've locked THEM in on the major stuff (unless you buy into all the dealer aftermarket and financial trappings like credit life insurance). Also, don't be surprised if they get more than a little frustrated with you by this point. Stand your ground and tell them you'll walk, even if it's only for a few hundred bucks, if they don't match the warranty price.

    Works great.
  • pluto5pluto5 Posts: 618
    Better yet wait til the car is in production for at least a year so they address any major problems and avoid buying the extended warranty altogether. They are only good for making money for the dealer since you will always lose with them in the long run although you might be glad you had it one time. Like going to Vegas.
  • Bought my 06' SS a little over a month ago. I've put 1330 miles on it so far, mixed highway and city driving. According to the in dash computer, I've averaged 16.3 MPG. Thats on 91 octane only. Thats not as good as I had hoped for, but maybe it will do better after its broken in a little more. Overall I love the car. :)
  • Agreed as to first year models. Couldn't wait for the next model year this time around, so the warranty was a good way to hedge my bet. All it takes is one or two really big repairs to recoup the warranty cost, and I expect that sooner or later, something is going to go wrong on a new model.

    Once I had a non-GM car that required extensive engine rebuilding. The problem was intermittent just before the extended warranty expired. I brought it in and had the dealership document my problem, even though they couldn't diagnose it at the time. A few thousand miles later, it got much worse. That was after the warranty had expired.

    I brought it back in and claimed it was covered under warranty as I had reported it during coverage. Of course they tried to wiggle out of it, but got the manufacturer involved. In the end, they probably did over $2,000 worth of parts and labor under warranty, and my warranty cost far less than that. I also had a free loaner vehicle for some time while they were rebuilding it.

    It was a second model year car, and found out later that a good number of owners experienced a similar problem with the engine. The manufacturer never did a recall.

    I was sure glad I got that warranty, although I'll never buy another car from that manufacturer.
  • charts2charts2 Posts: 618
    I am not a big fan of extended warranties. There are many car manufactures now offer a much better standard warranty then the standard warranty the Impala currently offers of only 3 years or 36,000 miles. Extended warranties are big money makers for manufactures of all products from cars to vacuum cleaners. Today a well maintained car overall will not need an engine rebuild within 160,000 miles or more, however a very few exceptions occur. The best vehicle purchase is a 1 or 2 year old low mileage, well maintained Impala that can be purchased for 30-40% off original cost. An extended warranty can then be purchased and the remaining thousands saved for buying used instead of new could be invested. WIN WIN WIN!
  • pluto5pluto5 Posts: 618
    I purchased my 03 Imp LS in the low $17Ks after dealer discount, rebate and GM earnings so IMO a new factory order is the best value since you get the color and options you want plus the full warranty. With current rebates and GM earnings an 06 LS could be had in the low $18Ks.
  • charts2charts2 Posts: 618
    To each his own. I bought a brand new 2001 LS. After 1 or 2 years there are all kinds of low mileage loaded Impalas to choose from $9-$11,000. The 2006 LS is the base model now where the 03 LS was the top of the line. Most 2006 LTZs or SS cars come loaded anyway, and most colors are available. I would never buy new again. I hate paying the freight and extra taxes just to have new. The residuals on these cars are terrible but make used Impalas a buyers market. Most will still have factory warranties left and you have an option to buy an extended one if you want to. I will wait and buy a 1 year old 2007 SS. By then most of the bugs from the 06 cars will be worked out.
  • pluto5pluto5 Posts: 618
    You are mistaken since NADA says my 03 IMP has avg. retail of over $16K, not bad compared to the $17K+ paid. For $11k I could only get an 01, probably a base, from CarMAx in my neighborhood.

    There are more scams on used car sales than new including higher interest rates, not to mention spinning the odo.
  • cptcpt Posts: 1
    I've been driving my 06' SS for almost 4 months, over 16,000 miles already. NO COMPLAINTS!!! I reset my average econ. at every fill up. On the weekend around town running a bit more aggressive, I average 16.5 - 19.5.
    During the week driving steady speeds across Indiana 55 - 65 mph, I average more like 22 - 24.5 mpg.
    Highway speeds of 70 to 80 I average 21.5 - 22 mpg.
    It's not bad economy for a small block V8 with "active fuel management."
    The key is to keep your foot out it, which is hard to do, why else would we buy an SS.

    Clayton
  • charts2charts2 Posts: 618
    There are all kinds of posters on here from the last couple years indicating they had a very hard time selling their used Impalas for what THEY thought they were worth. Check out the Impala posts on the Impala sight. Kelley Blue book November 2005 says a 2003 LS in Good-Excellent condition loaded, a private listing would be in the range of $12,165 - $12,900. and trade in value in the same condition is $9,800-$10575...A buffalo newspaper two weeks ago had a listing of several 2002 & 2003 Impala LS cars $8,900 to $9,900. Next time you are at your chevy dealer ask them what they would give you for your 2003 LS. I think you will be very surprised. Good luck in trying to get $16,000 for a three year old Impala. Don't forget to ad the freight and taxes to your cost of the 2006 price.

    Check any newspaper across America. They are loaded with used Impalas for sale like yours at give away prices, nowhere near what you think it is worth.

    With so many new cars in the Impala segment, I hope GM keeps this new Impala fresh. Every year improvements have to be made, the competition today is more fierce then ever. This Hyundai Sonata is winning most of the awards in this segment. I am a chevy guy but accolades to a car company Hyundai that has been around for a short time and is kicking the stuffing out of its competion in quality/desirablility in the mid car segment. Check it out!
  • pluto5pluto5 Posts: 618
    My original post was:I purchased my 03 Imp LS in the low $17Ks after dealer discount, rebate and GM earnings so IMO a new factory order is the best value since you get the color and options you want plus the full warranty. With current rebates and GM earnings an 06 LS could be had in the low $18Ks.

    Go ahead and "save" a few thousand on a used car if you can but consider the disadvantages in terms of use/abuse, odometer fraud, accident/flood damage, etc. No wonder dealers make higher profits on used cars than new!

    Selling after 2-3 years is another issue that is irrelevant to me since I don't plan to sell it for 9-10 more years. So your argument about loss of value is irrelevant to me.

    This is not a Hundai thread so I won't debate the Sonata.
  • Well, 3000+ miles and the gas mileage is still a whopping 21-22 on the highway. I called and bitched out the dealer and their response is as follows:
    1. It may take 6000-12000 miles for the engine to break in.
    2. Do you know how to fill the car up? He then proceeded to explain how to fill a car up. (All bs) :mad:
    3. Fill the car up at 100 miles, you may see an improvement. ( I obviously don't know how to divide)
    4. There is winterized (oxygenated) fuel which will lower your gas mileage. :cry:
    5. Your mileage should improve in April because thats when the oxygenated fuel will end for the winter run. :cry:
    6. At the end of the conversation, they tried to sell me some rain shields for the windows, what a class act, typical bottom feeding dealer.

    This car is the worst car I have ever leased, we'll see what happens.
  • charts2charts2 Posts: 618
    Who in their right mind would pay $16,000 for a 3 year old Impala, with no warrantly left when as you say you can buy a brand new 2006 for only $1,000 more?? Doesn't make sense.

    As I have stated in previous posts, GM better keep their fleet of cars/trucks fresh, more often then in the past. 6 model years was way too long with the previous model Impala with only minor changes. A lot of people change cars every three or four years and no one wants to buy exactly what they just traded in.
  • Back in 2002 I bought a used 2001 Malibu LS from Hertz in Albuquerque for about $12k as I recall. It had 28k miles on it and was in new condition. It now has 87k and has been the most dependable car I've ever owned. I'll order a new Impala LT in February. If I were still commuting, I'd definately buy another Malibu or Impala from Hertz, drive it two or three years and sell it and get another one. I used to commute 70 miles a day round trip. 2006 Impala rental cars will most likely be base LS models and I want an LT with the Bose sound system, traction control, ABS, etc. A 2005 Impala LS (upscale model in '05) runs about $14k. To me, it is worth the extra $7-8k to get a new one. I plan on keeping it 5-6 years and it won't have a third of its life gone when I buy it like the 30k mile ex-rental cars. Karl
  • I've driven the new Malibu LS and Impala LS but my drives were a month or so apart so I can't remember differences. Both as I recall rode pretty smoothly. Has anyone driven them back to back and can provide some comparisons? Thanks - Karl
  • charts2charts2 Posts: 618
    Bought a 2001 LS brand new. Won't do that again. No rental/fleet unit for me either. I will wait a year after many of the bugs in the 2006 model are worked out and buy a 1 year old private, low mileage 2007 SS at the end of 2007. There basically loaded anyway. Hopefully in 2007 they will have upgraded the brakes,(last in its class in braking) and solved the stalling/hesitation problems worked out that have been reported, and maybe by popular demand put the PRNDL markers back on the floor shifter. The 2006 Impalas are light years ahead of the 00-05 Impalas, but the competition isn't sittng still either. You say a 2005 Impala LS in 2005 is worth only $14,000. Pluto5 says his 2003 Impala LS is worth $16,000 NOW.
  • pluto5pluto5 Posts: 618
    I am not defending GM's resale value; it's not of great importance to me since I plan to keep a new car 10+ years. But the bargains on used are mostly illusory IMO. Example from CarMax in my area similar car and mileage:
    '03 Chevrolet Impala LS 4D Sedan $15,998 Blue Automatic 6 33K Transferable/$400
    Why would you buy a used 03 when you can get a new 06 with a warranty for about $3K more?
  • nosirrahgnosirrahg Little Rock, ARPosts: 872
    I've always looked at things this way...you can spend less money on a slightly used car, but by the same token there is a portion of the useful life of that car that has been used by someone else.

    Even though most modern cars are capable of running well over 100k miles if properly cared for, for the most part by the time a car has @ 120k miles or so it isn't worth too much (there are exceptions of course, but for mainstream sedans that's probably a fair figure).

    So in my mind, buying a new car for $20k and buying a used one with say 30k miles on it for $15k is a wash...the used car is 25% cheaper, but then again 25% of it's "life" is gone. So if you're planning to keep the car for 10+ years, it might make more sense to buy new, whereas if you trade frequently, you might be able to better justify buying a slightly used car and then trading it when it still has some value/life left in it.
  • charts2charts2 Posts: 618
    The 2003 Impala LS was the top of the line model. Many had leather, moon roof etc. Your new 2006 Impala is the base model, so your comparison should be with the 2003 base model Impala prices. The 03 LS is comparable today to the 2006 LT3-LTZ. 2003 LS $15,9888 is the asking price, so after negotiations, like you did on your new car a much lower price will be paid. Base 03s clean, decent mileage go for asking prices well under $12,000 on autotrader.ca and probably sell near $10,000 with a good negotiator, again similar to your 2006 LS base.

    Most FIRST time car buyers trade long before their car is 9 or 10 years old. I am probably older then you and I trade every 4-6 years. As stated I bought a 2001 LS brand new. With so many decent used Impala LS cars and soon to be SS cars out there, a good negotiated price will allow me to buy an extended warranty if wanted, invest the rest or put improvements into my 1964 Impala SS, that has a lot more then 120,000 miles and many more to come.

    The 2006 Impalas are definitely better buys today then the previous 00-05 models. Big improvements were made to the 2006 Impalas, but Chevy better keep these cars updated a lot more often then the previous models, and when problems arise address them immediately. We all rememeber the many problems that plagued the 00-05 models. cracked, body mounts, intake manifold leaks, warped rotors, Intermediate steering shaft problems, cheap interiors, etc etc. The mid/large size car market is the most competitive and right now Honda/Toyota still have the best grip on that. Chevy indicates they have reduced the number of Impalas going to fleet sales for 2006. Thats a good sign for new Impala owners who can retain a little more value over time. Used Impalas have the lowest rated resale value of any car in its segment.

    The Impala is #1 selling used car in America. There must be some value, the numbers speak for themselves.
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