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"VSC is an option on Every Camry, including the CE. Too bad they didn't make it standard across the board."
Everyone recommands buy a car with Side and Side curtain airbags, and VSC today. However, the stupid sales at Longo Toyota in LA told me nobody wants them so I have to make a special order to get a Toyota Camry SE V6 with these two safty features :mad:.
By the way, any rumors about the pricing of 2007 Camry.
By the way, any rumors about the pricing of 2007 Camry.
Longo is correct. For all the recommendations on S/CAB and VSC at least half of Camry buyers dont want to pay for them. Given the option these frugal buyers will always opt for the most basic model. No floor mats, no keyless, no pwr drivers seat, etc. It's the market speaking. It's changeing progressively but if they are put in every vehicle the price will be higher and a very large segment of Camry buyers will revolt and scream that useless options are being forced down their throats.
Pricing guesstimates.. see post #1018.
LE (4 cyl, auto, Base): $21,800
Hybrid (Base): $26,000
XLE V6 (Fully loaded): $32,000
It has to be competitively priced with cars like the Honda Accord.
You will have to wait until Toyota announces prices to see what real prices are.
Guessing is useless since you can't buy the car before then anyway.
Wow, really? Who'd have thunk it...
Correcto.. I sell them and the $21800 - $22000 range is about the same as the '06 considering all the standard equipment now.
The TCH is definitely a SWAG but seems to make sense from other models and vehicles. It puts it exactly in the same ballpark as the other V6's, excluding the Sonata.
Interesting. Every 2005 SE-V6 in the Chicago region came with these at a "standard option." I guess VSC is viewed as more important in the snowy midwest.
And also, why do they make the SE so ugly? Do they really think that adding those strange extrusions at the bottom of the bumpers makes the car look sporty? Well excuse me but the people who want to buy a Camry (the ones with the $$$) dont want to have that "asian guy who modified his used cheap ride" look.
Also, why in the world would anyone pay 32 grands for a V6 xle? I would just go buy a much better looking Acura TL. Toyota does these stupid pricing. When my brother leased his 2002 TL, he ended up paying 340/month for TL vs the quoted 360 for the then new model camry.
If Toyota doesn't get the sales numbers they want, they will do will make adjustments as needed such as adding incentives.
The Camry usually is priced higher than a similar Accord, but Toyota ends up offering rebates later to bring the actual sales price closer.
Where in the world did you get $32K from? Most likely MSRP will top out around $29.5K w/Navi. $28K without Navi. Hey at $29.5K loaded w/Navi its a better deal than an XL Avalon.
btw, 60%+ of Camry buyers will be buying the $21K version.
A TL with Nav is $36,000.
Even if the Camry V6 XLE with Nav is $32,000, what does the extra $4000 for the TL get you?
HID
Driver Memory
XM radio
Tire pressure monitoring system
Meanwhile, the Camry V6 XLE has over the TL:
More horsepower
More torque
6 speed v. 5 speed
Smart access
Push button start
Knee airbag
Fog lights
Reclining rear seats
The Acura panache, man! Seriously, I may be one of the few who considered both the TL & TSX and Camry & Accord when I was shopping a year ago. I suspect your typical Camry buyer never gave a thought to the TL and vice versa.
I went with the Camry SE-V6 not because I thought it was a better car but because I felt it offered better value and was more than adequate for my needs. I still stare longingly at the TL when I see one but I also like the $5-6000 that's still in my bank account because I went with the Camry.
After a few months, the Camry should come down significantly. Too many good competitors in the midsize segment.
BTW, I was looking at the spec sheet, and tire pressure monitoring system is standard on the Camry.
No, I agree. The SE looks like someone bought a $17k base model and installed an aftermarket body kit. Also, whats with the sideskirts? I thought those went out of style in 1990?
Also, why in the world would anyone pay 32 grands for a V6 xle?
I agree. The XLEV6 is overpriced, hence, you don't see many on the road. For +30k one should be looking at the Lexus ES or Acura TL (if you want a sports sedan).
You get free service loaner cars with Acura & Lexus...that is worth something.
Also, wouldn't they be stepping on the Avalon once you get over 30K?
I have a 2000 V6 5 speed manual, and have not upgraded since they have not offered this combination since the 2000 bosy style.
GM have repriced their vehicles recognizing that many people screen their prospective purchases by initially looking at MSRP. Hyundai is offering a lot of bang for the buck. The Chinese evasion is imminent. There is a lot of market pressure to keep MSRP down and maintain market share, and the Avalon XLS at just above 30K puts a cap on the top end.
The last model Acura TL blew away the competition as far as the price/value equation went. Acura "repositioned" the new TL in a higher price bracket and essentially lost their hold on the entry-level luxury market.
I don't think Toyota will do that with the Camry.
I do see the Avalon XL going away though.
Just my two cents worth...
As for the price of the XLE, I doubt the 32K pricing. I agree that the XLE V6 is overpriced, just like the Accord EX V6, For the same reason that the Accord SE V6 is overpriced hence, you don't see many on the road. I dont understand why some people would buy an overpriced Accord whatever the color is, black , white it doesnt matter, when for the same amount of money you could get an Acura TSX with free loaner car. Worse is if you are already aware that its overpriced and jet you still bought it.
FWIW, IIRC the Camry XLE V6 in the US outsells the LE V6 and SE V6, and may even outsell them both combined, not sure.
What makes the current Camry XLE V6 -at $29,450 with Navigation Accord EX V6 NAV- at $29,850...overpriced? If the market bears those prices, and people demand equal to supply, whats the issue? Those cars offer ALOT for the money, including features formerly only offered in the luxury class. Sure, a new Sonata LX V6 plus Premium Pkg squeaks under $25K MSRP, but it lacks the Navigataion and estabilished reputation of the former. I'm not saying the Camry and Accord are better than the Sonata, in some ways, they arent- just that "overpriced" is a very relative term. (Also note that the Altima SL V6 will hit $29K WITHOUT NAVIGATION, FWIW).
Regarding getting a TSX for the same cash as the Accord EX V6, so what? Some people don't want the smaller car with the slower acceleration.... it comes down to preference. I'd love to see the sales figures of the Accord EX V6 vs. Acura TSX... the Acura doesnt sell very many, and of the 380K per annum that the Honda sells, I'd be willing to be the share of the EX V6 in that mix is equal to the number of TSXs... if not more.
Re: the Camry SE bodykit- I'm not a fan, but I like it better on this model than on the former generation, and it wouldnt stop me from buying the car. In the press release, the SE V6 seems to be the MOST IMPROVED of all the models.
~alpha
What applies there doesnt seem to apply always in other regions.
Until the market speaks otherwise I agree that the body kit is appropriate on the SE. It did wonders for the Corolla S, at least in our area, in attracting younger buyers to get an affordable sporty car that wouldnt kill them in insurance. As these buyers grow into a larger vehicle the SE follows right after the S Corolla.
More specifically pkg#3 for the 2006 Sienna includes...:
Includes JBL Synthesis® AM/FM w/4-
disc In-Dash CD changer MP3/WMA capability, ten
Speakers & Two In-Glass Antennas w/ FM Diversity
Reception, DVD Navigation System w/ Backup
camera & Bluetooth® Wireless, Rear-Seat DVD
Entertainment System, two 115V Outlets, two
Wireless Headphones & Power Folding/Adjustable
60/40 Split & Stow 3rd Row(TM) seat (HT)
I am anxious to see the 2007. If there is not a substantial updating I might look seriously at an "old" new 2006. The color and options that I want is always a problem when the "old" model is not being produced anymore. You are absolutely right when you say that the Camry is an incredible value. If you want a great car, extremely reliable, and a great overall value, you cannot do better than the Camry. It is no wonder that the Camry has been the best selling passenger sedan for the last 7 years.
Most 2007 Camrys will be built in Japan and Kentucky, but some will be built in Australia, Thailand, Taiwan, China, Russia, and Vietnam.
The first Japanese-produced 2007 Camrys are expected to hit showrooms in March, with Kentucky models arriving soon thereafter.
Production in Georgetown will begin Feb. 13 on Assembly Line 1 and Feb. 20 on Assembly Line 2. Hybrid Camry production is planned to begin in October on the same lines.
The first hybrid Camrys from Japan could be in showrooms in late March or early April.
My big problem with the hybrid is this photo I found on pressroom.toyota.com. It appears to show the battery blocking the folding rear seat pass-through. If that's the case, what is the point of having a folding rear seat in the hybrid, and how can Toyota state that the LE and hybrid have the same amount of trunk space? I think the folding seat in the hybrid might be there just to give Toyota bragging rights over Honda, which has fixed rear seats in their hybrids.
I need a folding rear seat for a bike, so the hybrid appears to be out of the running. I will confirm this when I see the hybrid at the Philadelphia auto show in early February. If the pass-through is unusable, I will still consider the LE.
What did you think of the new Camry? How many and what models did they have on the floor?
My brother owns a 2005 Camry LE and a 2006 Sonata GLS. According to him, and I value his opinion as he's been in the auto engineering field for over 20 years, you shouldn't discount the Sonata. I know this may be heresy on this board, but to say that he's impressed by the Sonata is an understatement both from a build quality and mechanical point-of-view.
As one who's old enough to remember when Toyota's products were not considered high quality, perhaps Korean vehicles are evoluting in the same fashion as Toyota, Honda, et. al. The Chinese are next, and the vehicles from India are just around the corner.
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That means I have to take the Camry off our list since we need folding mirrors for our garage elevator. It looks like Toyota wants me to upgrade to the new ES350. I've heard about $40-42K for a fully-loaded ES which almost puts it into M35x territory. If they improved the handling, maybe.
I only got pictures of the hybrid and I haven't found time to upload pictures yet.