2007 Toyota Camry

wolfboro2

wolfboro2

I have a 2007 camry CE ,2.4 L engine with 35 K miles . Toyota maintenance schedule did not have a reference as to at what mileage fuel filter should be changed .I would like to hear from members about the location of the filter and what kind of tool is required (open wrench , clamps, special fuel-filter release tools,etc). Thank you

kiawah

I have a 2007 LE, with almost 60K miles, and haven't changed it. As a matter of fact, I've NEVER had to change any fuel filter in any of my vehicles with over a million miles of travel.

I just did a real quick scan of the 'fuel' section of the factory manuals, and didn't even see a fuel filter. I'm guessing it's either internal to the pump (in the tank), or perhaps it's down under the vehicle just in front of the tank on the frame area.

wolfboro2

Thanks for your response . I am new to Toyota maintenance . My other vehicles (like Ford trucks) indeed have replaceable fuel filters and factory recommended interval is 30K .
If your factory manual did not show it , may be that explains why toyota maintenance schedule did not include it (which I tought very odd ).
One less thing to deal with.
Thanks again

lay2

I am having a problem with my o3 Camry v6 xle which has 118,500 miles. The VSC and traf lites stays lighted on the dash board. When the car is started it initially goes off and then comes on and stays on. Does anyone know how to fix the problem. My brother said going to a dealer and they will take you to the cleaners.

belindac

I have a 2007 Camry (6 cyl) which I had taken to the dealer for an oil change. They advised that the water pump was leaking and had to be replaced. I only have 39K miles on the car.

Here is the problem - they have to pull the engine in order to replace the water pump which is 16 hours labor. The total cost is $2,000.

Anyone else have this experience?

What a terrible design! This is my first and last Toyota. Beware!

djm2

QUESTIONS:

Do you have an "extended Toyota Warranty on this vehicle? ---- Did you purchase this vehicle new? ---- Has this vehicle been sitting in "storage" for any great length of time, without the engine running periodically? ---- I have a 2007 Toyota XLE V6 Camry with 80,000 miles, and it still has the original water pump! --- I drive this vehicle at least three times a week along with my other vehicle. ---- My extended warranty runs until January 2013. ---- I am going to have the dealer drain and refill the cooling system with new Toyota Coolant! ---- I am planning to keep this vehicle past the extended warranty. ----- The reason being, that I have not found a new vehicle that I would like to own! ----- So I guess if my water pump starts to leak at 100,000 miles, I will have to pay the $2,000.00 for the repair! ---- But it is still "cheaper" than purchasing a "new car!" ------- If I purchased a new Camry, I would have to come up with at least $20,000.00 plus my trade! ----- At $2000.00 for each water pump, I could have ten water pumps installed by the dealer to spend $20,000.00! ---- With your low mileage, you have an "issue" with Toyota. --- Do you service your Camry at the dealership? ---- Do you have a "professional working relationship" with the service manager? ----- Maybe they can work with YOU and TOYOTA to split the bill!

Best regards. ------ Dwayne :confuse:

belindac

Hi Dwayne,

Thanks for your response. I work in NYC, so I use public transportation every day, so my car has low mileage. I did not purchase the extended warranty as I felt that Toyota had a high quality product and that I was already paying a premium for a Camry over a Ford product. I was planning on keeping this vehicle a long time - a new car is very expensive and I can't justify the purchase given my current driving habits. However, I am concerned that if I keep the vehicle and the water pump goes AGAIN and it's another $2k it's just too expensive to keep this car. I am also concerned about what other repairs might require the engine to be pulled. So far, I can't get an answer to that question so I feel uneasy about the risk.

I have a good relationship with my local Toyota dealer. I go to the dealer for all servicing and I service the car on a regular basis. I was able to negotiate the charge down from $2400+ to $2000; I was going to cancel the detailing I had originally scheduled but they gave that to me at no charge because of the situation. I feel that the service department tried to work with me and the car design is not their fault.

I called Toyota customer service and they did not want to help me as the car is out of warranty. Their response was very terse, and lacked any concern at all. I am extremely disappointed with Toyota's attitude. When I explained the issue and that the car only had 39K miles, the question was: what do you want from Toyota? I replied: some financial assistance with part of the repair expense. Toyota's reply: that's not going to happen you are out of warranty. This is not a design defect, that's just how the car is designed.

I want to warn other consumers, especially those considering a Toyota purchase. I am hoping that others do not have the same experience I have - times are tough right now. Fortunately, I do have the money to cover the repair but what about some other family who has hit hard times in the recession and can't afford a $2K repair bill for a water pump?

I am going to contact Consumer Reports Magazine to see if they are aware of this issue and if they can warn their readers.

I hope you do not have this issue with your Camry. Good luck!

Best regards,

Belinda

djm2

Good Morning Belinda:

Thank you for writing back! ----- Kindly be advised that any vehicle will suffer maintenance issues at an accelerated rate when it is not run on a regular basis. This is especially true with both the cooling system, and the lubrication system. I make it a point to change my engine oil and filter every 2,500 miles, not at 5,000 miles as recommended by Toyota, and I drive my 2007 V6 Camry weekly. ---- The water pump seal and bearing can be destroyed by the engine not running and the coolant not circulating. The same is true for the cooling system "rubber hoses!" If you do not use your vehicle for a period of time, it might be a good idea to start the engine and let it run until it comes up to operating temperature. A better idea would be to take it out for a short ride after the engine warms up. ------- If you purchase a new vehicle, always put a "top of the line manufacturer's extended warranty" for both the maximum number of years and the maximum mileage! I have always broke even with the cost of these warranties! They are worth the investment!

Best regards! -------- Dwayne :shades:

mcdawgg

You will see that for 2007's Consumer Reports shows a half black dot for cooling system minor, meaning, that's right, the water pump has had worse than average problems. If you look around the net, there are many complaints about premature failure of water pumps on 2007s.

So Consumer Reports already put the word out. Funny how all the people who hate Consumer Reports and say they are biased, wrong, etc. But time and time again, Consumer Reports shows that it is a very good source of info. The other frequent problems with the 2007 was the interior dash rattle, and the hesitation on acceleration. Both of these were easily fixed with TSBs that came out, but notice that Consumer Reports shows these as problems.

Toyota has a different part number for the replacement water pumps, so that means they made a change to it, so your new one should be fine.

This is an easy, quick, and cheap repair on a 4 cylinder, but ANY make V6 in a sedan this size has higher costs to replace something like a water pump, just because the size of the engine vs. the car makes it more difficult to work on.

Sorry to hear about your situation. Probably the only way you could have done better is to take to an independant shop, where the labor rate would be much lower. The pump is cheap, under $80, but it is the labor on the v6 that is $$.

djm2

Belinda:

I have been doing some research on the "net" about this issue. ----- Some sites say that the water pump on a V6 Toyota Camry can be replaced without pulling the engine out of the vehicle! ------ Some say it is about a 3 to 4 hour job!

Best regards.
Dwayne ---- :shades: :confuse:

djm2

Hi Belinda:

Kindly be advised that I had my 2007 XLE V6 Camry serviced at the Toyota Dealership today. ----- I asked the Service Writer if the water pump could be replaced without pulling the engine from the vehicle? ---- He responded "YES!" --- He also said that it would be a "tedious task," and that is why some dealers choose to "pull the engine!" ----- Go to another Toyota Dealer for the repair!

Best regards! ---------- Dwayne :shades:

wwest

First of all, I have sat and watched dealer service personnel taking undue advantage of female customers so often it is hard to believe. What I have seen more often is the selling of new batteries when all that is likely needed is a cleaning/burnishing/tightening of the battery post/connections.

That being said, water pump's have a "weep" opening such that any coolant that does get past the bearing seal will simply drain away. So it is not at all unusual to see evidence, dried coolant "fines", on and around the water pump "nose".

What you should do is top off the coolant reservoir and then carefully watch the coolant level for long enough to determine if the leak rate justifies the work.

belindac

Hi Dwayne,

If you could send me links to a few of the sites that you found, I would really appreciate it.

Thanks,

Belinda

belindac

Thanks for the info on Consumer Reports. I haven't had a chance to check yet. I think they do a great service for consumers.

djm2

Hi
When I was researching the subject I was all over the "net," and I did not record the individual sites.

SUGGESTION: ---- Call another Toyota service department, and ask if the pump can be replaced without pulling the engine? ----- You live in NYC. ---- There is a Toyota Dealer right over the "George Washington Bridge." ---- It is Parkway Toyota (201-944-3300) ----- {50 Sylvan Avenue, Englewood Cliffs, N.J. 07632) ---- See if they can complete this job without pulling the engine! ----- They also have rental vehicles for your convenience!

Best regards! ----------- Dwayne :shades:

isellhondas

I have to disagree with you about people taking advantage of female customers. Yes, I'm sure it happens but it isn't widesperad.

Also, if coolant is coming out of the weep hole it means the interanl seal has failed. It will only get worse and the water pump should be replaced.

I'm willing to bet that engine doesn't have to be pulled to change a water pump!

leslea

I have a 2007 camry XLE and it has 133200 miles on it and still the original pump. My mechanic said they the engine does not have to be pulled.

doggy1925

I have an 07 Camry SE 4 cyl. Brought it to the dealer August last year due to a weird sound coming out from the engine. My car was at around 56k miles that time. They told me that the water pump had to be replaced. It was still under warranty so I didn't have to pay for the part & service but they said the water pump costs around $850. They also had to replace one of the belts (forgot which one), perform routine checkup & service, change oil. They started working on it around 10 am and I was able to get it at 4:30pm of the same day. They probably just wanted to get some money off of you since the water pump replacement was free. Just my 2 cents.

mcdawgg

Water pump costs $850 - no way. $400 including labor, at the very most at a dealer.

thecardoc3

850 is a lot more accurate than your 400 guestimate. The water pump replacement is normally done with the timing belt. Add in tensioner and idler pulleys, and cam and crankshaft seals and you have a repair that is done correctly and protects the owner from a premature re-visit of this repair.

The waterpump can definately be done without pulling the engine. The base labor is only four hours by Mitchell On Demand. It is a bit of a PITA but having personally done at least a dozen of the over the last few years easy enough to say there are worse ones out there to have to do.

typesix

The 4 cyl has timing chain.

md094

I have a 2007 Camry 4 Cylinder with 67k on it burning at least a quart of oil every 1,500 miles. I have not noticed any oil leaking or smoke coming from the exhaust.

I have found other discussion in forums about several people having the issue, but no one seems to be able to determine what is causing it. I planned to keep the car for a couple more years, but now I am thinking of dumping it if I can't figure it out.

Any ideas how to narrow down the cause and/or the cost of potential fixes?

Thank you.

luvlonglegs

I have the same problem and same car, but I'm at 51,500k; no leaks or smoke. I took it to the dealership and they did an oil consumption test; all they could tell me was that the car burns a lot of oil. I try to check the oil at least 2-3 times per month.

sjkbmw

My mother had a problem with her heater, and she brought it to the dealer, which they replace the the toyota replace the water pump. I drove the car and I notice that while the fan selector is set at off and the e car is in motion, air still comes through the vents. The service manager is claiming that you need to have the have the air intake selector pressed on to recirculate, which closes the vents. When I questioned this, he claims this is how the camry works, and that his wifes presses the recirculate button to prevent the air from coming in. I find this hard to believe that when you start the car, that you need to go through another step of pressing the recirculate button to prevent the air from blowing on you. Has anybody ever heard such a thing.

sjkbmw

mcdawgg

Yes, this is common. This is to prevent people from leaving it on recirculate all the time. Leaving it on recirculate too long can, depending on the weather conditions, cause your windows to fog over, so this is an intentional design to make the setting "fool-proof."

When the car is on, you can press and hold the recirculate buttom for 5 seconds to get the recirculate to stay on for as long as you like until you shut the car off, or turn the vent controls to one of the defrost modes.

nguyenjl

I have a same problem in my 2007 Camry. I call the Toyota customer service they told me the car is inspect. And tell me to look at the car manual. It said you could lose 1 quart of oil for every 600 miles. I just dump my Toyota and never buy it again. The quality is so low now. Even my sun visor broke after the warranty expire

md094

Thanks for the posts. I spoke to the local dealer the other day and they said Toyota must do the consumption test, even though I had been tracking the oil loss. He said since it was out of warranty there was not much they could do other than try to push a warranty fix through Toyota after the consumption test. The service manager did not sound very positive about it being approved.

I plan to go back in soon to have them check the oil. It is already down about 1/2 quarter after 600 miles.

But, I am also close to just trading it soon because of all the good financing deals out there. And, it will not be a Toyota.

hybridssuck

Nope, it's $495 at my Toyota dealer, parts and labor. $800 is way to high, and the timing belt is not involved at all. The addititional work of cam and crankshaft seals is superfluous, and only done by fearful owners and mechanics that like to bill more than they need to.

belindac

md094

lutzh

My daughter has the same problem, the oil keeps disappearing between oil changes, Today I went with her to gettel toyota, the dealer from whom her bought the car from, since her took out the extended warranty, the rep. from fidelity , was called in last friday, since my daughter, has reported this oil loss prior, She was told today drive the car another 1000, miles, and we'll check oil level again. This has been a on-going problem, I believe the engine block has to be changed out, since the engine cylinders are defective but they ( Gettel and Fidelity) are hoping the problem goes way, since it is a big expense , but that is only my opinion I was a mechanic in my younger days,

jbragan

I have a 2007 Camry LE, that has a oil consumption problem. Back on Sept 28, 2012, I was having my oil changed and the mechanic told me that I was almost 3 quarts down, and after inspection of the car, he did not find any leaks. My car at this point had 70,274 miles on it. The mechanic suggested that I take it back to the Toyota dealership, to see what the problem was. I took the car back to Toyota and they told me in order to see what the problem was they had to fill the oil and (lock it down) and to bring it back in 1200 miles. I brought the car back in late November, early December 2012 and the oil was down 1.8 quarts .

There is a Technical Service Bulletin on this issue, T-SB-0094-11. 2AZ-FE Engine Oil Consumption issue. Toyota told me this was an issue, but my engine was out of warranty.. They told me that they would split the total repair cost with me 50/50. That the most I would pay is $2000. This is for a known issue. I didn't know what to do, but they told me that this repair would be under warranty for 12 months and if I had any issues then they would fix it. They would stand by the repair and they were certain this would fix the oil problem. So I had the car fixed and picked it up Dec. 21, 2012. It ended up costing me $1424.00, and I was told that I could go back to having my oil changed every 5000 miles. I was a little nervous about that so after 1000 miles I took it back and was told that they had to top it off. I said how much was it topped off and she couldn't tell me, but said my car was fine. So after 4000 miles, I decided to look myself to make sure the oil was ok, and when I checked it, the car was 2 quarts down. I was very upset so I went back to Toyota that day, and they filled up the car with oil and (locked it down) again. I told them I wanted the car fixed as it has a 12 month warranty. They told me it was out of their hands and I have to come back in 1200 miles again so they could check it. Now after 1000 miles it's already down 1/2 a quart, so I can see now that after 4000 miles it would be back down 2 quarts again. They told me they would call Toyota and get back to me, that was yesterday, June 12, 2013. They called me back, I was told by two people there including the supervisor, that the Toyota dealership will not be doing anything else to help me out. They told me it was normal now, with the new cars these days, they burn more oil then the old cars do, her words were the new cars run hotter??? I have never heard of a car burning 2 quarts of oil in 4000 miles to be normal. They gave me the direct line for Toyota, I called them today and they are not interested in helping me. Now what can I do??? Besides checking my oil every 1000 miles. I will never buy another Toyota anything.

canc

Thank you for posting the TSB on this; I'm going to print this out and bring this to my dealership.

I was able to find the PDF version of the TSB, for others experiencing the problem:

http://www.rav4world.com/tsb/2011/T-SB-0094-11.pdf

It's ridiculous to think that it's normal for modern engines to burn so much oil, and if it is, then why aren't all engines doing this?