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2007 Toyota Camry



  • hansiennahansienna Posts: 2,312
    This excerpt from Edmund's data on the 1999 Dodge Avenger has me confused since it states the Avenger is Mitsubishi Galant-based:

    " Overview:
    Nobody misses the Dodge Daytona. You will recall that the Daytona was a front-wheel drive sport coupe based on the K-Car chassis. After a decade on the market with minimal changes, Chrysler mercifully pulled the plug on the Daytona, replacing it with the Mitsubishi Galant-based Avenger sport coupe in 1995."

    Even if it was made in the USA, it was designed by Japanese Mitsubishi. :shades:

    STAY with Toyota Camry for a reliable, dependable mid-size car. ;)
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    We really need to get back to the Camry here. Check in Automotive News for an appropriate discussion, or if you don't see one, you can create it.

    I'd really appreciate your cooperation. Thanks.
  • trucker50trucker50 Posts: 148
    I was looking at an Camry XLS the other day and the sticker said the radio was both XM and Sirius ready, I didn't know anyone made radio's like that yet....I don't recall the brand.
    One question, do they offer remote start on the new Camry? :)
  • fsowirlesfsowirles Posts: 195
    Yes, and my SE V6 has it. It integrates into the keyless entry FOB. You press the lock button three times, holding it for a few seconds on the third time. This starts the engine. The unlock button turns the engine off.

    As for the XM/Sirius thing, many OEM radios these days are "Satellite Radio" ready or prepared. This means you can use the tuner of whichever you choose and have it installed into the car. Some of the makes that are exclusive to one or the other are GM which owns Hughes, and in turn has a vested interest in XM, Honda which I believe is still under a contract with XM (including Acura).
  • trucker50trucker50 Posts: 148
    thanks for the is your mileage on the v6 so far? According to the sticker it is very close to the 4 cylinder
  • JD Powers initial quality means didly sqat. No wonder people dont pay any attention to them. As far as claiming that the GP is a better car than the Avy, just wait about 5 or 6 years. Your Grand Prix would be worth less than a bicycle. And if GM bites the dust by then, your Grand Prix would be virtually worthless. Well at least GM's car quality now matches their credit ratings.

    Gee, there's some very insightful commentary here. :blush:

    I guess I could also refer you to Consumer Reports. Look up Camry, Avalon and Grand Prix. Look at the reliability stats in recent years.... Avalon is weak, Camry is good, Grand Prix is just as good. Shocking, I know.
  • kdhspyderkdhspyder Posts: 7,160
    I guess there must be a forum for the Grand Prix .. somewhere. But discussing it's merits on the Camry forum is somewhat out of place wouldn't you say?
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Yes it is out of place. Thank you. :-)
  • neno8403neno8403 Posts: 49
    There is no such thing as a Camry "XLS". So either you are talking about the Camry "XLE" or the Avalon "XLS".

    Moving on, can anybody on here with the "SE" 2007 Camry please tell me if there is really a difference between the headlights on that model and the non-SE models? Toyota keeps saying that the lights are "blacked-out" but in most pics I see the lights all look the same across the board with the multi-reflector "silver colored" headlamps. A few pics I've come across the light housing does look like its trimmed in black like the 2002-2006 SE's but its hard to tell on the 2007s. Any close-up pics or written confirmation would be appreciated.
  • supergoopsupergoop Posts: 46
    The 1st pic is a SE, and the 2nd pic is an XLE light housing. This is the best I can find:


  • ralphs007ralphs007 Posts: 12
    Could someone explain what this option is (50 State Emissions)
  • hansiennahansienna Posts: 2,312
    The ONLY difference I see is that the outside light is turned on in the 2nd photo and not turned on in the first.
    Is there any REAL difference if both have the outside lamp turned on? :confuse:
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    that will interest some of you. I should have linked it for you earlier: Buying American Cars: What does It Mean?

  • njeraldnjerald Posts: 688
    EPA on the V6 is 6-8% lower than the I4.

    Read the Camry MPG forum.
  • lmacmillmacmil Posts: 1,758
    Look at the barrel outside of the light. It's black on the SE and chrome on the XLE. It's the same way on the 2002-06 models.
  • neno8403neno8403 Posts: 49
    I kinda assumed thats the so-called "black sports trim" Toyota was referring too but its not a significant enough difference in my opinion. The Gen 5 Camry's had the ENTIRE housing trimmed in black, not just the outter part of the headlight lens. If Honda could make the new Civics headlights with all-around black trim then I don't understand why Toyota couldn't. I guess maybe during the mid-cycle upgrade they'll realize their mistake.
  • hansiennahansienna Posts: 2,312
    THANKS for the clarification. Is that why the XLE costs more than the SE? :shades:
  • njeraldnjerald Posts: 688
    XLE has more standard features!!!!!!!!!!
  • solman6solman6 Posts: 1
    That means that the car can be registered in any of the 50 states. If you moved to California from say North Carolina in an older car without 50 state Emissions you may not be able to register it in California. Likewise many older cars from Massachusetts were sold with California standard emissions so that car wouldn't have a problem. Toyota eliminates the guess work by meeting the emissions standards in all 50 states. I hope that helps.
  • ralphs007ralphs007 Posts: 12
    Hi solman6
    Thank you!
  • captain2captain2 Posts: 3,971
    and this would be the reason I have been following this particular site - to see if some documented transmission control problems that do exist in the 5 speed Avalon appear also in the 6 speed Camry or actually worsen with the extra gear.
    what you folks need to understand is that your transmission is computer controlled, has a 'learning capability, and that is 'programmed' for fuel economy. As such, the transmission will hold the highest gears possible to minimize engine revs - it doesn't like to downshift so that in the Camry's case the transmission may be holding onto 6th gear all the way down to 20 or 30 mph. This creates situations that 3 and 4 gear downshifts are needed when power is reapplied. Which is where the 'gear hunting' and delays do happen on acceleration.
    This has been discussed to death on the Avalon forums all the way down to analyzing gas pedal design! To my knowledge, nothing as major in the Av as what faldoc is reporting or any problems with the transmission itself - only the way (IMO) that Toyota has chosen to control it.
    Will be interesting to see what, if any, reaction Toyota has to continuing complaints like this especially if the new 6 speed is actually 'worse' in this regard than the 5 - Avalon owners have generally found an 'it's working as designed' attitude.
  • spencer327spencer327 Posts: 106
    This is not a new "problem". It started with the Toyota DBW 5 speed and effects all Toyota and Lexus with this tranny. I have lived with it in 2004 HL since I bought it. My daughter lives with it 2006 Camry. My 2003 Avalon with 4 speed is fine. I no longer make excuses for a poor design.I will vote with my feet. As a 5 Toyota family my loyalties have been compromised.
    My next vehicle will not be a Toyota!
  • kiawahkiawah Posts: 3,666
    Oh well, just thought I'd get around to ordering a set of Service Manuals for the 2007 Camry, only to find out when I called that the set of 4 manuals and 1 elec total $725. Heck, could almost get a set of new rims and tires for that price. This is my first ever Toyota in almost 40 years of buying cars.....were the older model Toyota manuals this expensive as well? Are these manuals soooo much better than other mfg's?
  • njeraldnjerald Posts: 688

    Use your search engine and go to the Toyota TIS library site. I can't give you the site address on an Edmunds forum site.

    You can sign up for a 24 hour service for $10 and download information, service items, TSBs, etc.

    You can sign up for a whole year a lot cheaper than $725!!
  • kiawahkiawah Posts: 3,666
  • tedescm1tedescm1 Posts: 309
    I find it really strange that this type of transmission problem can go on for three or four years without resolution...what is wrong with toyota?
  • captain2captain2 Posts: 3,971
    bottom line - I don't think that Toyota will admit to it being a problem - and the condition surely hasn't hurt sales and ratings. And a number of Toyota and Lexus owners may agree with Toyota simply because it is most bothersome to those with more aggressive driving styles. And keep in mind that drivability issues are not limited to Toyota - many German cars (VW and MB), some GM and Chrsler products all have similar reports of 'indecisiveness'on their electronically controlled transmissions. And it wasn't just a few years ago that Acura/Honda could even stop their trannies from failing altogether. Not intended as an excuse for Toyota, just history and an overapplication of technology?
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    The perplexing thing for me is that this powertrain is used in the IS350, and has not been reported as deficient. And what about RAV4 owners that have the Avalon's 5A?

    It seems to me that there is an issue of the design, which in some models has lead to downshift hesitiation (though that was supposedly cured for this iteration of the transmission), and actual failure of the transmission itself, which seems to be the actual complaint on the 6A.

  • njeraldnjerald Posts: 688
    It could be a failure of a part (solenoid) that is from a different vendor or a defect in a purchased part that is not used in Japan.

    Chill out and let Toyota investigate.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    A link to that site would be most welcome! No reason not to post it. :)
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