Sludge is not an issue on the later model cars. And it's highly debatable whether there was an inherent defect or too many owners neglected to change oil frequently enough. I had a '97 Camry 4-cylinder (one of the affected years) that was fine with respect to sludge until the day I sold it at 111K miles.
I now have two Camry 4-cylinders, an '04 and an '05. Both specify 5W-30 oil, so that's what I use (conventional oil). I change oil frequently enough that I don't see the need or added expense for synthetic (IMO).
If your SE V6 calls for 0W-20 or 5W-20, I'd go with that.
I know there was controversy when mfgrs. switched to 5W-30 from 10W-30 -- a lot of people thought the new oil would be "too thin."
Similarly, a lot of people don't like the idea of 5W-20, first recommended by Honda and Ford/Mazda a few years back.
I think one should go with the viscosity grade recommended by the manufacturer -- their engineers should be in the best position to know what oil is optimal.
I had a 2000 Maxima and the Camry SE is better. There was a lot more body lean on the Maxima than the Camry. The Camry feels more glued to the road and I did have good tires on the Maxima.
I am in Michigan looking to buy camry 07 LE I found a price for $19,269.00 + other fees. Out the door price I was told was $20,789.00 including the mats and cargo net and first aid kit. Is this a fair price? First car I don't want to get riped off. If anyone can do anything better pls email me at hbdpat@gmail.com
I can also buy a car from OH since i work there.
If anyone knows advise on the price. THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thanks for the info on the filter. I question the recommendation of changing every 5K miles whether or not you use synthetic or conventional. Mobil 1 has their new supersyn that is guaranteed for 15K miles so I would think 10K would be acceptable. The regular Mobil 1 has no recommended mileage but if I remember correctly, a few years ago didn't Mobil 1 recommend changing your oil every 12 months or 12K miles? Can anyone confirm this? Anyway, as far as conventional oil, I would use Mobil oil with their extended performance of 5000 and 7500 mileage. I would not use regular oil for 5000 miles and their is no point to use synthetic if your going to change as regularly as conventional oil in my opinion. True synthetic is better but it also costs 2-3X the price of conventional oil. If mfr recommend 5000 and even 7500 mile intervals with conventional, I think 10,000 on supersyn should be OK. I did 10K miles with my Maxima on regular Mobil 1 and never had a problem.
I'll say it again, if you want to keep your powertrain warranty in effect (5 years/60K miles), you better have evidence you changed the oil every 5000 miles or 6 months, as per Toyota's recommended change intervals.
Otherwise IF you have a powertrain problem related to engine lubrication, Toyota will say "tough luck" when you say "but I used synthetic!"
If you can't see changing synthetic that often, then simply use conventional oil.
Well, I'm not really sure. They replaced the temp sensor and then told me that it didn't fix the issue and that they were waiting for Toyota to address the issue with an ECU reprogramming, but now I haven't noticed the issue since they had the car last Monday. There are times when it seems the transmission shifts a little abruptly, but I'm not used to automatics so it may just be the way it is, but apparently they at least thought there was something still wrong with it when they gave it back to me.
A LOT of U.S. Toyota and Lexus dealerships' stock of "Toyota" brand oil filters are made domestically by Purolator (technically, Arvin-Meritor, Purolator Filter Division's parent company). Mobil 1 oil filters are made by Champion Laboratories which also makes WalMart's "SuperTech", Autozone's "Valuecraft", and K&N oil filters (you really thought the K&Ns came from England? Really?). There's nothing a Mobil 1 oil filter can do that won't be done as well or better by Purolator's "PureONE" premium oil filter. That they sell for less than the Mobil 1 filter is frosting on the cake. Not widely known (except among BITOG forum's oil freakz), the Motorcraft oil filters sold through mass-market retail channels are also made by Purolator. Arvin-Meritor also claims on its website to be a supplier to DaimlerChrysler.
"You might want to get a second opinion. The clutch usually has nothing to do with the engine."
Very true. But perhaps the real problem has something to do with a crankshaft-flywheel-pressure plate defect rather than the clutch... Dealerships don't generally make a habit of doing something stupid such as unnecessarily changing out an engine.
"...Anyway, as far as conventional oil, I would use Mobil oil with their extended performance of 5000 and 7500 mileage. I would not use regular oil for 5000 miles..."
NEWSFLASH: Mobil Clean 5000 is regular oil. (at least under the current definition of the term for the API's latest "SM" service designation for passenger car and light truck gasoline-fueled engines) Mobil Clean 5000 (and its corporate companion, Exxon Superflow) is the company's entry level oil and is applicable for 5,000 mile oil change intervals under "normal service". ExxonMobil cautions that this oil is not intended for that interval under "severe service" right on the bottle. Presumably that means dial back to 3,000 miles under "servere service". Check your owner's manual for guidance as to what constitutes "severe service".
A decade or so ago, Consumer Reports funded the rebuilding of several hundred engines in New York City cabs. Half the refurb'd fleet used Mobil 1 synthetic in the OEM recommended viscosity grade, and the other half used conventional oil in the recommended viscosity grade. Once placed back in service, the cabbies were instructed NOT to baby or alter their customary driving habits and none of the cabbies knew which type of oil was being run in their cabs' engnines. End result? It was the opinion of the independant mechanics who were assigned the task of tearing down these engines at the end of 100,000 miles since the rebuild that synthetic oils only made sense if the service interval could be extended beyond 5,000 miles. Within that 5,000 mile frame, measurements of wear and photographs of deposit formation showed the conventionals protected just as well as the high-price spread. Oil technology has progressed since that study and the performance gap between synthetics and conventionals has additionally narrowed.
One company made filters in the same building and on the same lines as they built filters for a number of companies. The difference in the Toyota filters is they were built to different specifications; Toyota was very picky about how their filters were made. My information is based on experiences occurring more than ten years ago. P.
"Super! Straightforward deal? Did you go to look at it yet?"
Dude, Im in Houston and the two SEs with manual transmissions that Fitzmall has are the ONLY ones I could find. I searched the entire state of Texas, emailed dealers in StLouis, Chicago, Memphis, Nashville, and no one had one or had one coming in. The local dealer took a deposit from me and "ordered" one. Well that was a bust, they can't actually order a SE with MT. And could not locate one. You can see for yourself what a decent deal the price is. They FEDEXd the paperwork and thats that. I fly in to DC on Monday, pick it up and drive home. I could have had it shipped for around $7-800, but decided to see some sights while in DC.
I am trying to find some hi-res photos of a Camry in the Blue Ribbon Metallic color. I would like to find something other than the photos you get from Toyota's web site - more of a real-world photo...
I think I might like this color, but I would like to see a sample of it!
Don't have the sat radio, so don't have the antenna for it. If you are asking about where the GPS signal is received - I'm not positive, but basic info in the manual (196 pages!) leads me to believe that its in the dash board/instrument cluster. Warning re interference caused by aftermarket window tint films (they contian some metal) indicates that the signal is received inside the cabin. Hope this helps - sorry for the delay.
Does anyone know where a comprehensive list of voice commands is for the 2007 Camry Navigation system? My BMW came with a list, but I can't find a list anywhere in the Camry.
Just took del of mine yesterday. I think the pictures at the site linked by supergoop do, in fact, accurately depict how the car looks in various lighting conditions. If you like dark blue, you'll like Blue Ribbon.
Page 143 of the owners manual indicates that the Help screen includes a command list, but I haven't looked at it yet. There does not appear to be a printed list in the paperwork that comes with the car.
Thanks for the reply.....funny you should mention that it doesn't seem to do it anymore.....as for me....the tranny did the lurch thing on the way home after I took delivery of it.....but I have been driving it all week to work and have not noticed it at all any more.....maybe the car gets use to the way you drive it and makes its own adjustments? Who knows.....as long as it doesn't come back I don't care if it was gremlins that stop the lurching....good luck with your car.....
I am seriously considering a 2007 Camry but my first love is XM Satellite Radio. My questions are basic and would apply to the radio with the six disc changer (no NAV).
1. Can the radio display more than one line of text?
2. Does the radio display the name of the artist and the title of the song? or the name and number of the station? or either of the two?
3. Is there a button that will let you advance from one category to the next?
I own a Alpine 9857 and love the way you can press the title button and either display the artist/song or the location/title of the station. I also like the button that lets you jump from one category to the next.
Amen to that. Toyota wants you to build them an oil filter, you build it their way. I learnt this with my Toyota Landcruiser BJ-60 diesel truck. My friend also had a Toyo diesel but used an aftermarket filter which fell apart and the paper gumed up his engine. His first indication something was wrong was zero oil pressure. He wasn't too happy. Go Toyo filters or thats a chance.
The voice commands are in page 18 of the '2007 Navigation System Quick Reference Guide'. It is a booklet with 18 pages that came with the manuals (owner and navigation manuals)
I do not know though if this is a comprehensive list. Audio 13 POI 28 Dest 3 Map operation 3 Guidance help 8 Screen preference 3 Volume 2 (louder softer)
There are also commands for telephone mode, audio mode, climate control mode. I have not really used this a lot yet.
1) Not at the same time. The text of the radio, as you might have seen, is HUUUUUUGE! In fact, it usually can not handle even one single line of text in its entirety. This can be frustrating. When using the mp3 CD player, you can hold the "Text" button to scroll to the right and see the finish of the line, but this doesn't seem to work on the XM.
2) Pushing the "Text" button does allow to cycle through all options. The default is the station number. Pressing the button once shows the station name. The second press shows the name of the song, and another press shows the name of the artist. Again, almost every one is cut off, so you're unlikely to see the whole thing, but you can get the jist of it.
3) Yes. I can't remember what it's called, but the top left button lets you cycle categories.
Syn oil may not be the problem in going 10k miles. I would be concerned about the filter. The manufacturers that allow high mile oil changes, recommend syn oil but have a better filter/filter system.
Your pics are broken links. Don't work too hard to fix it unless you want to show it off I think I saw what I needed to see from the other pictures that were posted.
I was considering buying the XM radio, but after reading about its limitations, Im thinking no. I did just buy an Audiovox link title XMCK10 for $38. It looks good so far, and with 6 lines of text and a stock ticker it rules most factory systems. Also, it will plug right into the auxillary port of the 07 Camry.
You cannot just plug it into tha auxillary port. You will need to run an antenna wire also and that can get messy. A portable MP3 player will be cleaner and neater.
How does this work? Do you catch a cab to Fitz from the airport or will they come pick you up? From what I can tell it would be a rather expensive cab ride from DC.
Would be interested to hear the details also, but I believe Fitzmall is in Gaithersburg on Fredericksburg Pike. I believe there is a Marta station right there.
That's the least they should do. I've picked up customers at the airport before when I've sold out of state. Heck in some cases us paying for the plane ticket as part of the deal worked wonders! :shades: Mackabee
Anyone experiencing noise from the trunk...when the gas tank is full. You can hear it when you hit the brake or when you stop Do you know what it is? I got my car buffed because of some scratches and now I can see holograms..do you know how to get rid of it? Thanks
howdy, my wife is about to buy a 07 XLE 4cyl, what if any suggestion or problems have you experienced that we can discuss with the dealer reference this car. thanks.
Previous msg: "You cannot just plug it into tha auxillary port. You will need to run an antenna wire also and that can get messy. A portable MP3 player will be cleaner and neater."
XM / Sirius cannot be compared to a MP3 player. Think of an MP3 player as an extension of your CD player - You get more of your own music.
The satellite radios are incredible - especially if Toyota impliments it like Honda (their OEM systems). They take the true "digital" output of the satellite signal and feed it through the CD's preamp circuitry. In laymans terms, this means that the signal is processed as true digital with no noise and clean, wide response. (Satellite radio sound quality: clean and clear, great definition, slightly compressed dynamic range - maybe like a MP3 recorded at 192kbs).
I have five XM radios - One OEM in the Honda, three atermarket units on wife's & kids cars, and a Polk XM component tuner added to my home stereo. The reason I stated that you cannot compare it to a MP3 player is that you end up with a great quality jukebox - music, news, sports, whatever, parsed in every whichway imaginable.
My first experience was when it came as standard equipment on my Odyssey last summer. I was instantly "hooked" - the rest is history. I really believe that once you try it, you'll regret not having done it sooner. I know of no one who would think of cancelling it once they have it.
My wife has the factory XM in her 2005 Honda Accord coupe, and to be honest, I think the sound quality isn't that great. It might be her stereo (she has the Navi system), but I was unimpressed.
I have the Dephi RoadyXT in my Trailblazer, and it is a bit "flat" or "thin" in audiophile terms. I have to use the FM modulator in this case, which I think is the biggest reason for this. The stereo in the TB rocks (the Bose premium system). It is far better than the one in my wife's Honda.
I got my 07 LE on Long Island, NY for 21,000. This price was an "internet special" and included Camry LE, 4CY auto, flor & trunk mats, body side molding, fancy, hot alloy wheels, spoiler & rs security system! BYW this price also include LI tax of 8.625%! Do your homework & shop for the best price!!!!!
This is the best I can do for the time being. As I was just discussing on another website with a fellow Blue Ribbon Camry owner, the Blue Ribbon Camry is probably by-far the most difficult 07 Camry color to truly capture on film. The pics on Toyota's site aren't near the actual color of the car. Its something you really have to see in person. I was skeptical about getting this color because it does look like a dark blue in all the photos I see but in person it is much lighter and very elegant and metallic looking. Here are a few pics of my 07 Camry in Blue Ribbon.
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I now have two Camry 4-cylinders, an '04 and an '05. Both specify 5W-30 oil, so that's what I use (conventional oil). I change oil frequently enough that I don't see the need or added expense for synthetic (IMO).
If your SE V6 calls for 0W-20 or 5W-20, I'd go with that.
I know there was controversy when mfgrs. switched to 5W-30 from 10W-30 -- a lot of people thought the new oil would be "too thin."
Similarly, a lot of people don't like the idea of 5W-20, first recommended by Honda and Ford/Mazda a few years back.
I think one should go with the viscosity grade recommended by the manufacturer -- their engineers should be in the best position to know what oil is optimal.
Interesting post though.
4c AT '97 LE with 185,000 miles when I traded it. Do the maintenance as recommended and there is little risk.
Traded to the same vehicle as a 2000 4c AT also with no issues.
Traded to the current Prius.
I can also buy a car from OH since i work there.
If anyone knows advise on the price.
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Otherwise IF you have a powertrain problem related to engine lubrication, Toyota will say "tough luck" when you say "but I used synthetic!"
If you can't see changing synthetic that often, then simply use conventional oil.
Well, I'm not really sure. They replaced the temp sensor and then told me that it didn't fix the issue and that they were waiting for Toyota to address the issue with an ECU reprogramming, but now I haven't noticed the issue since they had the car last Monday. There are times when it seems the transmission shifts a little abruptly, but I'm not used to automatics so it may just be the way it is, but apparently they at least thought there was something still wrong with it when they gave it back to me.
Very true. But perhaps the real problem has something to do with a crankshaft-flywheel-pressure plate defect rather than the clutch... Dealerships don't generally make a habit of doing something stupid such as unnecessarily changing out an engine.
NEWSFLASH: Mobil Clean 5000 is regular oil. (at least under the current definition of the term for the API's latest "SM" service designation for passenger car and light truck gasoline-fueled engines) Mobil Clean 5000 (and its corporate companion, Exxon Superflow) is the company's entry level oil and is applicable for 5,000 mile oil change intervals under "normal service". ExxonMobil cautions that this oil is not intended for that interval under "severe service" right on the bottle. Presumably that means dial back to 3,000 miles under "servere service". Check your owner's manual for guidance as to what constitutes "severe service".
A decade or so ago, Consumer Reports funded the rebuilding of several hundred engines in New York City cabs. Half the refurb'd fleet used Mobil 1 synthetic in the OEM recommended viscosity grade, and the other half used conventional oil in the recommended viscosity grade. Once placed back in service, the cabbies were instructed NOT to baby or alter their customary driving habits and none of the cabbies knew which type of oil was being run in their cabs' engnines. End result? It was the opinion of the independant mechanics who were assigned the task of tearing down these engines at the end of 100,000 miles since the rebuild that synthetic oils only made sense if the service interval could be extended beyond 5,000 miles. Within that 5,000 mile frame, measurements of wear and photographs of deposit formation showed the conventionals protected just as well as the high-price spread. Oil technology has progressed since that study and the performance gap between synthetics and conventionals has additionally narrowed.
The difference in the Toyota filters is they were built to different specifications; Toyota was very picky about how their filters were made. My information is based on experiences occurring more than ten years ago.
P.
:shades:
Mackabee
Straightforward deal?
Did you go to look at it yet?"
Dude, Im in Houston and the two SEs with manual transmissions that Fitzmall has are the ONLY ones I could find. I searched the entire state of Texas, emailed dealers in StLouis, Chicago, Memphis, Nashville, and no one had one or had one coming in. The local dealer took a deposit from me and "ordered" one. Well that was a bust, they can't actually order a SE with MT. And could not locate one.
You can see for yourself what a decent deal the price is. They FEDEXd the paperwork and thats that. I fly in to DC on Monday, pick it up and drive home. I could have had it shipped for around $7-800, but decided to see some sights while in DC.
and a nice drive home.
I am trying to find some hi-res photos of a Camry in the Blue Ribbon Metallic color. I would like to find something other than the photos you get from Toyota's web site - more of a real-world photo...
I think I might like this color, but I would like to see a sample of it!
Thanks!
I have a Ribbon Blue XLE V6. Below is my car, but I think the camera makes it looks pale (the Ribbon Blue is actually more vibrant seen in person):
If you are asking about where the GPS signal is received - I'm not positive, but basic info in the manual (196 pages!) leads me to believe that its in the dash board/instrument cluster. Warning re interference caused by aftermarket window tint films (they contian some metal) indicates that the signal is received inside the cabin. Hope this helps - sorry for the delay.
Thanks for the reply.....funny you should mention that it doesn't seem to do it anymore.....as for me....the tranny did the lurch thing on the way home after I took delivery of it.....but I have been driving it all week to work and have not noticed it at all any more.....maybe the car gets use to the way you drive it and makes its own adjustments?
Who knows.....as long as it doesn't come back I don't care if it was gremlins that stop the lurching....good luck with your car.....
1. Can the radio display more than one line of text?
2. Does the radio display the name of the artist and the
title of the song? or the name and number of the
station? or either of the two?
3. Is there a button that will let you advance from one
category to the next?
I own a Alpine 9857 and love the way you can press the title button and either display the artist/song or the location/title of the station. I also like the button that lets you jump from one category to the next.
Thanks!
I do not know though if this is a comprehensive list.
Audio 13
POI 28
Dest 3
Map operation 3
Guidance help 8
Screen preference 3
Volume 2 (louder softer)
There are also commands for telephone mode, audio mode, climate control mode. I have not really used this a lot yet.
Nice Post.
1) Not at the same time. The text of the radio, as you might have seen, is HUUUUUUGE! In fact, it usually can not handle even one single line of text in its entirety. This can be frustrating. When using the mp3 CD player, you can hold the "Text" button to scroll to the right and see the finish of the line, but this doesn't seem to work on the XM.
2) Pushing the "Text" button does allow to cycle through all options. The default is the station number. Pressing the button once shows the station name. The second press shows the name of the song, and another press shows the name of the artist. Again, almost every one is cut off, so you're unlikely to see the whole thing, but you can get the jist of it.
3) Yes. I can't remember what it's called, but the top left button lets you cycle categories.
Your pics are broken links. Don't work too hard to fix it unless you want to show it off
Thanks,
Jeff
http://www.autobase.com/cgi/list.exe?make=Toyota&model=Camry&type=new&newsite=1
The pics change frequently as new stock comes and goes.
A portable MP3 player will be cleaner and neater.
Mackabee
Do you know what it is?
I got my car buffed because of some scratches and now I can see holograms..do you know how to get rid of it?
Thanks
Mine has leather, heated seats, TC/VSC and floor mats. Paid $24,913 for it.
Getting 26.5 mpg avg for the last 3 tanks with about 60% city driving.
Never have considered any previous Camry models.
A portable MP3 player will be cleaner and neater."
XM / Sirius cannot be compared to a MP3 player. Think of an MP3 player as an extension of your CD player - You get more of your own music.
The satellite radios are incredible - especially if Toyota impliments it like Honda (their OEM systems). They take the true "digital" output of the satellite signal and feed it through the CD's preamp circuitry. In laymans terms, this means that the signal is processed as true digital with no noise and clean, wide response. (Satellite radio sound quality: clean and clear, great definition, slightly compressed dynamic range - maybe like a MP3 recorded at 192kbs).
I have five XM radios - One OEM in the Honda, three atermarket units on wife's & kids cars, and a Polk XM component tuner added to my home stereo. The reason I stated that you cannot compare it to a MP3 player is that you end up with a great quality jukebox - music, news, sports, whatever, parsed in every whichway imaginable.
My first experience was when it came as standard equipment on my Odyssey last summer. I was instantly "hooked" - the rest is history. I really believe that once you try it, you'll regret not having done it sooner. I know of no one who would think of cancelling it once they have it.
I have the Dephi RoadyXT in my Trailblazer, and it is a bit "flat" or "thin" in audiophile terms. I have to use the FM modulator in this case, which I think is the biggest reason for this. The stereo in the TB rocks (the Bose premium system). It is far better than the one in my wife's Honda.
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