Honda Civic Sedan 2006

mldj98

So why are you here in this forum?
Go ahead and buy your domestic...see how long it lasts you...count the number of times it is in the shop...see how much the resale is later when you go to sell it...and it doesn't matter if you sell it in 3 years or 10 years...resale on domestics are a joke...that's not something I like to say but it is reality...there is not one domestic car on the market that can compare to Honda...or Toyota...period...
and if you can find one one auto publication that says so I would sure like to know which one...it's not "car and driver:...it's not "automobile magazine"...it's not "consumer reports"...I think you get the idea...
enough said!

watchdoc2003

simply use the "quick search" feature on the bob barbour website and search for "new" "honda" "civic" and the 2006 LX shows right up. I went by there today and saw it myself. Very sharp car.

waw40

Thanks. It does show up under "civic", but not under "civic sedan" as I tried before.
BTW, have you tried to sit in the rear seat of your coupe? An occasional third passenger that I have to take in my 2000 coupe complained of too little space and I read that the 2006 had even less legroom there...

bamacar

Leatherette is still el cheapo in a 40+k vehicle. I never said it was cotton, but at least cloth doesn't make you sweat. Obviously leather is the only logical choice in a BMW or MB unless you are anti-leather.

On the last two jokes in case you did not understand, if vinyl is the new hot thing then why not go back to steel wheels, an 8 track, or break out the carbueretors as we must be going retro.

To actually stay on subject, I checked out the Civic and it and the Mazda3's interiors are the class in this class. The Corolla is acceptable but just plain boring even with the fake wood and the almost impossible to find leather interior.
I sure hope the BMW has a nicer interior since it costs a little more than a Civic.

watchdoc2003

Honestly, I hadn't ventured into the back seat until you just mentioned this. I plan to use the car as a commuter since I have other larger vehicles when there are more than 2 adults.

First, I'm 6 1 and 220 so my emphasis was on front seat comfort which the Civic coupe offers a lot of. Getting in the back is easy with the passenger seat slid forward just as previous civics. The seats are comfy and supportive but my head hits the ceiling. My guess is anyone over 5' 10" would hit their head. Legroom is tight as well. I wouldn't have a problem going across town but anything more than that and I'd be whining.

On an interesting note. I discovered the cool integrated clothes hanger hooks above the rear quarter window. Neat feature I hadn't noticed til now.

obie2

I have looked at the new civic EX and LX. Even though I plan to purchase and EX for "wifey", I preferred the material on the LX seats, It has a little different design. Kind of like small bumps vs grooves on the EX. But I live in So Cal. Got to have the moon roof.
BTW I got an offer for $500 below MSRP from one dealer. "Have to purchase with in 48 hours" EX sedan A/T.

gearjammer62

I dont know why folks on this forum are going ga ga over an economy compact which is quite expensive for an economy car?

Start by educating yourself and reading virtually every review of the '06, which says it is the best Civic ever.

Too expensive? Doesn't seem to have slowed interest or sales - they are flying off the lots as soon as they come in. Obviously, these people know something you don't.

bigal3

In case if you don't know, most BMW sold in US do have leatherette (they call "M-B Tex" for MB). If their customers are happy with leatherette (or M-B Tex), I won't be surprised if Civic customers are also happy with leatherette.

Although Civic is a cheaper car & "cloth" (actually 100% synthetic nylon with Polurethane) is a cheaper alternative, I will be willing to pay a little more for the car if they offer a "leatherette seat" option.

It is no joke, 2006 Civic DX still have steel wheels & 2005 Civic DX do have AM radio/tape. That doesn't mean that Civic can not improve/upgrade with better materials & equipment.

In case if you don't know, Honda Civic do offer fake wood & leather interior as options in Japan, Europe & Asia.

rwm741

I am perfectly comfortable with cloth interiors; although I have sat in leather-upholstered cars, I do prefer the cloth.

Glad someone respects the rights of others. I just wish that the auto industry had more respect for those of us who prefer cloth interiors. For instance, to get power seats or an XM radio on an Accord EX, I need a leather interior.

boomchek

Ummm he said best Civic ever, not best car ever. Two different things....

midnightcowboy

nipponolny said:

Remember, that price for the SI is stick shift only. The EX coupe has most of the same equipment, so you pay the extra $2K for the better powertrain and the limited slip. "

The Si 6-speed Honda manual shift transmission is one of the best, if not the best transmissions around. By extra $2k, I assume you are referring to a automatic EX transmisison which is no way better than a 6-speed manual

However, I am with you on the fact that I think the public will think the Civic line is overpriced breaking the $20K barrier. (only the Civic Hybrid did before).

6-speed Cruis'n :shades: ,

MidCow.

sr45

Ummm he said best Civic ever, not best car ever. Two different things.... You are right. Missed that one, however, the jury is still out on that one. Car just came out.

anonymousposts

buying a car based on where it's assembled is very short-sighted. You should buy a car based on whether or not it gives you the performance/features you want at a price you want to pay. It doesn't matter to me whether my car is made in Japan, Canada, etc as long as it's reliable and I like it.

aaykay

On the other hand, Toyota is assembling their cars in US. As an alternative, you may want to buy Toyota which are assembled in US.

Honda makes their Civics and Accords in the US too. In fact, a majority of them are made in the US. I personally will buy the best product that my hard-earned money can buy, as long as it is legally available for sale in the US, disregarding the point of final assembly.

If Toyota were to equip the Corolla with an Independent suspension in the rear, like the Honda Civic, and eliminated all their garbled options packages and put out some standardized models like Honda with their LX, EX etc., I would have seriously looked at it. The number of rental Corollas also don't enthuse me too much.

It is a shame that in this day and age, Toyota still manages to sneak in a cheap beam suspension (non-independent) in the rear of the Corolla and get away with it. When competitors like Honda Civic and Mazda3 provide dynamic independent suspensions, why should Toyota cheap out on their Corolla ? I understand that the Toyota Echo is equipped with a cheap beam suspension in the rear but that's okay, since it is a cheap car. But the Corolla too ?? I guess it is because people buy the Corolla and don't take Toyota to task over it.

pro2

Honda says 140 whopping horsepower-- TOO weak- no where near enough-
The Si has only 139 lbs of torque with 200 horses- This stinks when Chevy's
Cobalt will be smoking it with ease all day long. Honda keeps getting away
with weak numbers because we Honda lovers are in denial. My civic is lacking
and I expected more from Honda.

growwise

Dont mean to butt in your back and forth volleys... but just wanted to give a perspective on where Honda stands. It is half the size of toyota and it was making two stroke bikes back when the likes of GM and perhaps toyota were inventing important components that Honda uses today.

allfiredup

I still think the '92 Si was the best Civic ever!

robrwa123

This is getting out of control with the name-calling and insistence that "any opinion not in alignment with mine is wrong" mentality!

The Civic is not an econo-car. It is a compact, not a sub-compact. In fact, the 06 is an "advanced personal compact". Just ask Honda:)

You have to trade MPG if you want more HP & torque, it's that simple.

Any one variable does not make a car overall better or worse than another. All considerations/specs, etc., have to be entertained collectively, and put in alignment with the consumer's preferences and needs.

For example, if safety and MPG are your priorities, then the new Civic fares very well. If you want to have the best 0-60 MPH acceleration, then you'll probably have to give up fuel economy, and as with a lot of domestic auto's, you trade off in terms of cornering, handling, or braking. If price is most important, you'd probably do best to look elsewhere, for now, but that will probably change. Some people have enough $ to pay MSRP and forever feel satisfied with their purchase, knowing that was the TMV at the time they made the purchase.

allfiredup

Is that a hint of rational thinking I detect? What the heck are you doing here?

Just kidding! You make some great points. The people who insist that ONLY their opinion is absolutely right and resort to name-calling really have no place amongst civilized, decent folk.

poopoo_head

That is an excellent point regarding TMV at the time.
I'm sure you have bought a computer, right? How did you justify buying it when you knew the price would be less just 30 days later *without* any necessary negotiation? No, ok, wait, so maybe with the computer we have no choice on the price drop, but with the new Civic, we can wait a few months for it to fall...by that time though, my trade-in would have required that 1000$ clutch change...

When you see other new Civics on the road, keep in mind that some of them could have been bought because their older car was in need of immediate riddance. Some have waited a long time for the new Civic to arrive.

poopoo_head

umm...there have been a few great reviews posted here, and I know that maybe not everyone in this forum is after 'ultimate' handling (whatever that is) but are there any autocrosser types here that have driven the new Civic versus the Focus over bumpy corners? The previous Civic was doomed with short-travel front suspension, while the long-travel front suspension showed the opposite... just how does the new Civic (sedan) compare in these areas? Also was wondering about steering feel where the Focus was near top in class. BTW I am asking because I'm still waiting in Canada for the 06 Civic

civic4

I purchased a 2004 Civic coupe, automatic, and insisted on a car with side airbags. Even with these two additional the sticker with destination came to around 18,800 (I negotiated to $16,300 including destination), but in comparison, the side airbags which are now standard throught the models, were part of the options on the sticker and the antilock is now standard from the dx to the ex. I am figuring an upcharge of a few bills for more horses but bottom line, these cars will be very negotiable once the initial excitement subsides. I wouldn't be surprised to see some inscentives sooner than later considering economic reports have determined that car sales have slowed dramatically. I feel those who bought at sticker will have the enjoyment of driving the newest Civic for a while, but those who wait will be driving the same car, for much less than they might think possible.

JBaumgart

If the price of gas keeps going up, this process may take longer than people think, as more and more people ditch their SUV's and other vehicles that become too expensive to own, and look to replace them with smaller, more fuel efficient cars. But most of the high mileage alternatives that are out there are pretty boring to drive, and also lack style. The new Civic is one of the few exceptions (IMO) and will get more serious consideration from most, and could well keep demand and prices up for longer than people expect. This all depends, of course, on how quickly Honda increases the supply - if they ramp up production very quickly and flood the market with Civics over the next few months, I agree that discounting on mainstream will soon be commonplace. But if Honda's production plans are to be believed, I would still bet that MSRP or higher will be the norm on the Hydrids and Si's, for quite some time to come.

307web

Part of the reason for the SUV craze was cheap gas. Then you had to buy an SUV also so you could protect yourself in a crash with another SUV and then other people had to buy bigger SUVs to protect themselves from you. i.e. "When I get in a crash, I am going to be the one that lives."
So now with gas prices rising, more people are down sizing and buying cars like the new Civic.
I predict SUV resale values will fall over the next few years depending on how high prices get and stay.

bigal3

Don't get me wrong, I am a Honda fan myself & I had owned a number of Civics & Accords myself.

I am sure that some Honda Accords are assembled in US (using Japanese made engines & parts).........but so far, all the stickers on the windows of the new 2006 Civics SOLD IN US indicated that they were either IMPORTED from (1) ALLISTON, ONTARIO, CANADA, or (2) SUZUKA, MIE, JAPAN.

YES, I am proud that you will spend your hard earned US$ on buying big item durable goods (like cars) imported from Japan & Canada. But with exploding C$ & exploding US current deficit, will it help if those 2006 Civics can be assembled in US using your fellow Americans ? God save America.

biker4

Since the car is out, isn't it time to move this to the regular Civic threads?

Then people can start speculating on the 07 changes. :shades:

midnightcowboy

Backy,

Thanks for thinking about us Hostonites.Okay lost power for 3 1/2 days. No gas and food at some stores. Back to looking at cars and crus'nn.

I am working with my Nephew on a civic Si. He plans to get the HPF package and is thinking about waiting maybe until he 2007s come out and he completes his masters.

Cruis'n again 6 speed,

MidCow

Kirstie_H

Yes, in a day or two we'll move the thread - subscribe to this discussion now!

crazycro

Hey Kristie do you guys not want us readers to see the Honda live chat from 9/01/05??? Seriously I thought that would have been out a long time ago. I think I speak for all of us when I say this. This info would have been really helpful in buying the new civic. You guys are like denying us free help and facts. Thats how it seems anyway. We all want to see it already comon guys??????? We don't need it to be edited. Please post in on the past Transcripts.

Thanks

dwatwd

I couldn't agree more.

I purchased an '06 Civic EX AT sedan.

I have waited since last March for this car. I went to my dealer at that time and considered an '05 Civic EX Special Edition. At the time I already knew, and my salesman confirmed, that the '06 would be a redesign. I decided to "patiently" wait. I weighed the pros and cons of buying in the first year of a cars release, but as CR recently reported, Honda has the least amount of problems.

I test drove the Mazda3. I liked the car's power and handling, but it was cramped for me in front and didn't offer acceptable rear seat leg room.

I test drove the Corolla LE and S. OK, but not what I was looking for. No personality. Plus everything is a package or option.

On the day I test drove the '06 Civic, I also again test drove an '05 Civic EX Special Edition to refresh my memory and an '06 Accord LX Special Edition. The '05 Civic was better than the Mazda or either Corolla, but pales when compared to the '06. I really liked the Accord, but I drive 130 miles a day commuting and the gas mileage was a major selling point. So I decided to purchase the Civic.

I paid MSRP, TMV at the time. The dealer threw in pinstripes, wheel locks, splash guards, an '06 Honda Civic maintenance manual, and 5 oil changes.

I should mention that I also have a '98 Civic CX hatchback with 224,000 miles on it that I did not trade, and still drive several times a week. It was purchased new, from the same dealer, and is about to get it's 4th set of tires and I'm finally replacing the original battery before this winter. I've replaced the muffler twice, the catalytic converter once, had the brakes done twice and as regular maintenance, the timing belt, water pump, and fuel filter replaced twice as well. I've also changed the oil 76 times, new air filters every 15,000 miles and new plugs every 30,000 miles.

If I can get the same service from my new car as I have from my older one, I will pay MSRP everytime.

I've had 2 Toyotas and had problems with both and don't even get me started on the domestic vehicles I've owned. I can appreciate other peoples opinions, but my personal experience tells me I've done the right thing.

I waited.

Now I have what I waited for and am very pleased with my new purchase. BTW first tank 38 MPG, second tank 40 MPG.

brupop

Do tell if your 06 EX Sedan is U-Shift or Auto. Either way, 38 and 40 MPG is quite impressive out of the box.
GregB

dwatwd

It's an AT, no NAV.

hamroid

bigal3,
thank you for your insight...
here is a little more you need to know about the product line and north american content.
Accord Sedan - Ohio
Accord Coupe - Ohio
Acura TL - Ohio
Acura EL - Canada
Acura MDX - Canada
Pilot - Canada
Pilot - Alabama
Civic GX - Ohio
Civic Sedan - Ohio
Civic Coupe - Ohio
Element - Ohio
Civic - Canada
CRV - United Kingdom
Civic - United Kingdom
Oddessy - Alabama
Ridgeline - Canada
Shadow 1100 - Ohio
VTX 1300 - Ohio
VTX 1800 - Ohio
Valkyrie Rune - Ohio
Gold Wing - Ohio
Engines - Ohio produces over 1 million engines per year to Ohio, Canadian, and
other Honda plants worldwide.
Engines - Alabama - V6 for Oddessy's.
Engines - South Carolina - ATVs and Water Craft.
Engines - North Carolina - lawn and garden, snow blowers, generators etc.
Transmissions - Ohio [and soon Georgia] plants.

content? slightly over 90% using over 600 north american suppliers who employ about
150,000+ people in the US.
yes, Honda does work globally. if a worldwide plant falls short of consumer demand, another plant in the world will step up to the plate to supplement them with local manpower, parts, supplies, and products. that is good for american emploment.
Since this is only September I believe your observation of the 2006 civic stickers are premature. But I respect your opinion.

Have you checked out Honda's new Jet engine? If not, check it out at:
Honda Aircraft

kknowles

I dont know why folks on this forum are going ga ga over an economy compact which is quite expensive for an economy car?

Some answers (from someone about to become a first-time Honda buyer on Saturday):
1. Resale value beats everything I have seen. That makes the initial cost somehwat irrelevant if you get a greater percentage back.
2. Better gas mileage than almost everything else. That probably does not make up for the extra cost up front, but it feels good.
3. Honda reliability.

aaykay

I am sure that some Honda Accords are assembled in US (using Japanese made engines & parts).........but so far, all the stickers on the windows of the new 2006 Civics SOLD IN US indicated that they were either IMPORTED from (1) ALLISTON, ONTARIO, CANADA, or (2) SUZUKA, MIE, JAPAN.

The early batch of Civics are being imported from Japan - True. That will be the story, until the US production pipeline catches up. Even then, a significant amount of parts within that Japanese assembled Civic are still of US origin. When the US Ohio production ramps up, you will be lucky if you find one out of fifty Civics that are built in Japan. You see the same among the Toyota Camrys and Corollas too. Quite a few of them are assembled in Japan, while a large number are assembled in Fremont or Kentucky. It is simply the luck of the draw. As far as I am concerned, I find the best engineered, safest vehicle for my needs, within the budgetary constraints I set for myself. If that vehicle is assembled in Japan or Canada or the US or wherever, so be it. If on the same dealer's lot, I find 2 identically equipped vehiles - one assembled in Japan and another from Ohio and if the Japanese assembled vehicle has noticeably better fit and finish, that vehicle will earn my pick rather than the less well assembled one. I would not want to encourage mediocrity by voting for a shoddier built product with my money.That's just me. Sorry. I owe that much to my wife and kid, since I work hard for my money.

boomchek

The CRVs for the West Coast are actually built in Japan. The CRV's from the UK are for the East Coast North America.

bigal3

As I have mentioned, I am a Honda fan & had previously owned 2 Honda Accords & 1 Honda Civic.

I am very glad that someone from Honda (hamroid ?) is reading the forum & is listening to what people have to say about Honda & their products. That is a good way to collect customer comments & a great way to improve a successful product.
You will always have my vote of confidence.
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In the last 5 years, US$ has already fallen more than 30% against C$. Importing the new 06 Civic from Canada will only inflate their selling price in US.

According to the stickers on the windows, (so far) the new 06 Honda Civics on sale in US are actually imported from Canada (or Japan).

I am quite sure that Honda will eventually shift the Civic production back to US due to the high C$. However, it may take some time.....& in the mean time, the Honda Civic customers will have to suffer from the inflated imported price.

I would like to thank (hamroid) for his information. And I am hoping to buy a new Honda Civic coupe in the next few months (or weeks) when the "new Civic mania" has subsided & the selling price is returning back to a more normal level.

Kirstie_H

I'm sorry, but this is out of our control. When we host chats for manufacturers, part of the deal is that they get to review/edit the transcript prior to it being posted on our site. The hold-up is on their end, and it will appear on the site as soon as we get it back!

murph76

I just purchased an AT LX yesterday. The dealer didn't have the color that we wanted, so we had to order. The expected arrival date is Oct.15. We got the dealer to take 750.00 off of the MSRP. The total price including destination was 17,110.00. I felt more than comfortable with this price considering that if we would have gone with the Mazda 3, Nissan Sentra, or the Toyota Corolla, we would have paid more to get the same safety features. I can't fathom getting a compact car without side airbags or abs.

The civic also felt more like a "real" car than all of the others. I had a 2002 1.8 T VW Passat, for a few years, and the civic had a better fit and finish, and better pickup, for much less money. I would have happily paid more for this car. I can't wait until mine gets here.

Thanks for letting me share my two cents.

obie2

Has anyone seen the '06 "alabaster silver" side by side with the previous year's silver. If so are they different, and how would you describe the difference? Thanks, Matt

querier

I am about to trade my 2004 EX Coupe and I would like the 2006 EX Coupe but my A/C has never been the greatest in my current car. Have they improved the new engine enough to provide adequate A/C? This is the only reason that I may switch to the Accord Coupe instead.

Anyone down South??

midnightcowboy

I would like to see more cars including the Civic go to Alcantra interiors Cool in the summer, warm in the winter and wears better than cloth

ericf1

I test drove the '06 EX Sedan yesterday and everything was great except the damn handbrake was digging into my leg! A dealbraker for me, and I wanted to get this car so badly.:(

fordfocus

maybe you can put a nerf ball over the end? I'm sure there will be aftermarket solutions to this common problem or not? BTW, can you comment on the highway road noise and the ride quality?

ericf1

I don't think there will be any easy solution for this problem. The handbrake is potioned in such a way where it's digging right into my knee. I tried moving the seat around and it didn't help. I will try the coupe out and see if there's a difference, but if not I'll just have to go for something else.

Road noise and ride quality were good for a car in this price range. It was a little noisy when I put my foot all the way down to pass, but not overly so.

fordfocus

hmm...I'm sorry to hear that...hopefully I won't have that issue when I get to drive one up here...

civic4

I have noticed some photos on Honda's website in which the silver coupe looks almost as if it is painted to look as if it were shiny aluminum. I thought it was a great color, but there is no listing for any silver besides alabaster silver so I am wondering if this is just am anomalie in the photograph due to lighting, (but for real, it cannot be that shiny and be the same color). Check out these photos, this is definitely NOT the alabaster silver, it is too shiny aluminum looking, not a matte finish like the alabaster silver.

http://automobiles.honda.com/models/exterior_overview.asp?ModelName=Civic+Coupe

allfiredup

Just curious, what color did you order?

tentative

looking for an '06 ex manual transmission. price comparing. richmond, va. what prices have yall paid or are being quoted? any successful haggling?

murph76

Black. All we could find around here was white or gold