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That has to be a first - a bureaucracy admitting error? I’m glad you got that straightened out!
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The whole point of ducking the points is to keep your insurance rates from going through the roof. If they were going to go up anyway why would you bother with two points? One year of ticket free driving can erase those. It's the insurance costs that take time to go away.
I'm curious to know which offenses may be reduced.
The specific offense I'm interested in is NJ 39:4-92 (Failure to Yield) - it's a 2 point offense.
Also, does anyone know if insurance points are automatically assessed for an "at fault" accident in NJ?
How many?
As I understand it, you can request from the prosecutor that he/she reduce certain traffic violations to lesser offenses (but pay for this point reduction). It's basically used to avoid points on your license for insurance purposes.
Is there a specific set of offenses related to this system?
The specific offense I'm interested in is NJ 39:4-92 (Failure to Yield) - it's a 2 point offense.
Also, does anyone know if insurance points are automatically assessed for an "at fault" accident in NJ?
How many?
But to my surprise, the prosecutor was in good mood and converted my ticket to obstruction of traffic 39:4-67 (no point ticket) with a fine of $50+ court fee 59.So I got away with no points and $89. It totally depends on the prosecutor.
However, with respect to the point buy down, I am pretty sure you can only do that 3 times in 5 years. Also, if you exceed that you will be assessed a penalty by the DMV. I was told something to that effect by a prosecutor and I'm almost certain that those were the limits and conditions. Lastly, I believe this would apply to all moving violations (or almost all). I think you should be able to buy down your points for a failure to yield. Hopefully, you'll find a source that verify this information before you go to court so you know where you stand. Good luck.
Last week a NJ State Trooper gave me a ticket on the turnpike northbound because I drove through some cones in a construction zone (well before the actual construction site, but where all traffic was still being corralled into the far left lane), in order to get into the off ramp for a service plaza near Mt. Laurel. I'll spare you all the details of why this ticket was bogus and get to my question(s).
I live in upstate NY. Without traffic, it is a 2.5 - 3 hour drive to the municipal court where I am supposed to appear in Mt. Laurel. I'm an independent contractor, so this means an entire day of work lost, plus travel costs (including about 50 bucks worth of gas), if I go down there.
My last ticket was probably 3-4 years ago. I paid the extra fee to have the points waived. I'm guessing that for this ticket, it's probably best to spend the time and money to go down there and at least get a plea bargain (if possible) and avoid getting any points. What I've read is that the judge probably won't care about my story - as long as the officer has the facts correct, excuses won't count. But I'm also concerned about how the construction zone thing will increase the fine and points.
Any advice or additional info that might be helpful would be appreciated!
Thanks, Steve
I don't think you mentioned how many points your ticket is, but be prepared to pay a hefty surcharge if you are able to plead it down to zero points.
As far as the judge, I don't he or she will be interested in your story. I'm sure they'll listen, but I don't think it'll have much of an impact. Not swearing to that, but my experience with traffic court is that they just want to get us in and out of there (although it feels otherwise).
Good luck.
Ah. I knew this has been asked here before:
NYS points from other states
So, according to the NY DMV website, out-of-state points will not transfer to your NY license. So I wouldn't waste my time going to court, personally.
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New Jersey accepts points from more places. I remember getting two points ages ago because I got a speeding ticket in Florida. That equals two points no matter what the violation was in the other state. I like the New York deal better. Ontario and Quebec? Go figure.
I moved from South to North and as a new NJ resident, I was unaware of NJ traffic rules.
In April I received 2 tickets at a time,one was failure to observe traffic signal ( no turn on red 2 points) and speeding (4 points ) as I was trying to merge on GSP.
In May I received one more ticket failure to observe traffic signal ( no turn on red 2 points).
Total were 8 points and I don't know that, I can defend my points in court and paid the penalty online.
Today I got one more 4 point speeding ticket while I was passing a steep road the cop had caught me doing 40 in 25 and making the total to 12 points.
Can anyone help me how to avoid suspension of my license as my record will be entered into National Driver Register (NDR) database which is accessible for all the other 50 states.
I was totally ignorant of no turn on red law.
On those lights, though, NJ allows right turn on red if safe after full stop unless the intersection is marked with a no turn on red sign. You might want to check the intersection.
The only thing I think of immediately is maybe you can can the failure to observe traffic signal down to a failure to observe sign which doesn't carry points. It's something anyway.
I will try to change my license to a different state which does not carry out-of-state ticket, so that I can avoid NJ Tickets
As Fezo said, NJ does allow right turn on red after a full stop, unless otherwise posted.
Which kind of leads me to my 2nd point.
I was unaware of NJ traffic rules.
This statement troubles me. What exactly were you cited for that required you to do anything more than read road signs? The speed limit is not a secret law specific to NJ. And the turning on red, as explained above, is only a violation if there is a sign that tells you NO TURN ON RED, which again, means no requirement of knowing NJ motoring laws is necessary, you only need to read the signs.
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I am sorry if I had troubled you. But I had violated the law NO TURN ON RED and tried to merge Garden State Parkway and cop has given me ticket for NO TURN ON RED and Speeding.
Is it fair to give ticket for speeding of someone increases speed to merge Parkway?
Anyways I had learned a good lesson from NJ Traffic Cops
If no such sign exists, then you have an argument in court.
Is it fair to give a ticket for speeding? well, speeding is speeding. Not sure what else to tell you there. I just can't believe a cop was sitting on an entrance ramp to the GSP. I've never seen that before.
out of curiosity, what is the speed limit on an entrance ramp? Is it the limit of the GSP in that area (meaning 55 or 65)?
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plead this down to something less with no points and not having to pay some outrageous fine? My wife pleaded down a 4 point violation a few years ago to zero but the total costs added up to over $400. I wouldn't mind paying $100-150 to get rid of the points. My last violation was 15 years ago. Or does it make more sense to plead guilty & the take the defensive driving course online for $49,which
gets rid of the 2 points(can only do that once every 5 years)? Thanx.
1) If the prosecutor gives me the option of pleading guilty to a non-point offense, will I definitely be whacked with a $200-300 fine in addition to the new offense?
2) If so, am I better of taking the points with Geico? Can the new offense, even though it might not include any points, increase my premium anyway?
Thanks for any info you can provide.
Sure, it's no fun paying the extra money on the ticket, though in my personal experience it was never so bad as being described now. Insurance surcharges would be more.
I don't know how Geico operates but I'd expect the charge.
The paying extra for the ticket or taking the defensive driving course may be a decision of how valuable your time is. The courses may not be that long but they seem so.
Anyone have experience taking a ticket to court? Should I try to extend the date when it comes close say i have a work related issue I can not get out of?
I am new here and love this forum.
Hope to hear back from someone.
Also I am thinking about getting that Traffic Ticket Insurance anyone have that it might be worth it cause this ticket I just got was $215.00.
Tracy.
The RSX girl,
I just got a speeding ticket 43 in 25 zone and I am planning to go to court what are my chances. I am a NY resident and I work in bound Brook so it's near by but what are my chances any one has experiance with their procecuter. If there a point reducing the points from 4 to 2 I tried running a quote in geico.com and it doesn't make a difference if it was 18 over the limit (4 points ) or 5 over the limit (2 points) I still get 100$ increase for 6 months.
Any advise will be appreciated
just pay the fine.
If you go to court he will reduce your points from 4 to 0 if you plead guilty, but you need to pay $439.00
SANTOSH
just pay the fine.
If you go to court they will reduce your points from 4 to 0 if you plead guilty, but you need to pay $439.00
SANTOSH
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Thanks a lot
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Q. If I get a ticket for a moving violation in another state, do I receive points on my NYS driver license?
A. The NYSDMV does not record out-of-state violations committed by NYS drivers in other jurisdictions.
New York does exchange information with the Canadian providences of Ontario and Quebec and other states concerning driving while under the influence of alcohol or illegal drugs.
I know Florida sends the info to NJ who hits you for 2 points no matter what teh violation. Or at least they did in the 90s.
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Basically, without a lawyer, you can probably very easily go to court and get, at the very least, a speed reduction. You only need 3mph knocked off to get down to 2 points.
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'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Yeah, sometimes you need a lawyer. No doubt about it.
North Brunswick ticket - I know just where you mean. Cop must have an angry wife or something. Should have knocked off 4 mph as a matter of course. This doesn't mean he won't negotiate in court but I would certainly factor in that he could be difficult. I think in your case I'd try the lawyer but getting two points is likely still doable without one. Best of luck.
Could you te;ll me what eventually happened?
1) Did you fight the ticket?
2) Did NYS add points?
3) Did GIeco increase premiums?
New York State does not swap ticket information with other states unless drugs or alcohol are involved.
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"The NYSDMV does not record out-of-state violations committed by NYS drivers in other jurisdictions. The exceptions are alcohol-related violations, drug-related violations, and moving violations committed in Quebec or Ontario. "
The ticket will not add points to your New York license nor should your insurance company find out about the ticket.
Fighting the NJ ticket is a waste of time and money. NJ tacks on an expensive surcharge in exchange for reducing the points.
If not, then the question is: how would they find out?
Insurance company runs your license. If nothing on your license, then what?
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